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Anyone else have horrible experiences talking to ISPs?
>move into grandmothers house to commute to college cuz old roomate had a mental breakdown
>she's still on DSL and paying $40 a month for it
>I call the small ass ISP company called frontier
>on hold for 30 mins
>try to cancel but the lady on the phone says only my grandmother who is deaf can
>I have the account number, pin, everything and the lady wont let me cancel
>I get pissed and hang up
>call back and get a new guy
>grandmother is dead, I wanna cancel my service
>"I' sorry to hear that, do you want 2 months of hi-speed internet for free?"
>guy comes to house to install new lines
>mfw highspeed internet is 3mb down, 3mb
Back when I had Verizon DSL I was trying to set up a webserver, but they were blocking Incoming port 80. I called Verizon to see what they could do about it and had to explain to the rep what a port was.
it's sort of ironic that the best service I ever had was when I stole it from comcast. Had business class speed and it never went down.
>>52600758
How the hell did you steal service? Like split the cables?
>>52600456
>>mfw highspeed internet is 3mb down, 3mb up
>3mb up
shit that's bretty gud for DSL,
>>52600711
I remember a local magazine doing a comparison of the service provided by different ISP's and when they called the biggest ISP in the country (Elisa) and asked for the address of the SMTP server, the rep said they don't have one and hung up on them.
>>52600817
The problem is its not even DSL, they upgraded the lines but im sure theyre throttling
>>52600456
Definitely the connection my parents used to have
>Really shitty HomePNA connection chosen only because it was literally the cheapest option
>About twice the speed of dial-up and no real way to speed it up because then the whole house would have to buy more bandwidth, but nobody wanted to pay more
>Customer service was absolute dogshit
>Only open on weekdays from 9 AM to 4 PM
>Wasn't guaranteed that you'd get ahold of someone even then and often when you did, it was somebody out on a callout who'd promise to sort it out the next working day
>Connection would start to suffer from problems of really high ping (as in 50k ms) every now and then
>Meant that there was a serious delay in just web browsing and all online games that were more real time than email chess were completely unplayable
>Had to call them up and every time the guy was skeptical if rebooting the router in the building would fix the problem despite the problem persisting on multiple devices and always being fixed by rebooting the router
>One time the connection went like that on a Friday around noon and when I called them around 2PM the guy I got ahold of was doing a callout and promised to have a look at it the next Monday
cont.
>>52600781
You used to be able to use the network with custom firmware on modems
>>52601026
>At some point the company changes it's name from an easy-to-remember name to something that translates to roughly "Wired and Wireless INC"
>Didn't fully understand the implications of this until my mother accidentally threw out the information brochure and the massive ping problem happened again
>Company is literally "un-Googlable" with at least the first 50 pages results when you tried to search for the company's name being just talk about internet connections
>Can't find them with ether their new or old name in the yellow pages
>Old website doesn't work ether and isn't found on the wayback machine ether
>Try to ask neighbor who also had the same connection if they have the booklet left
>"lolno, we got rid of that shitty service"
>Mother refuses to upgrade to something that isn't dogshit because it would cost more
Moved out not long after and a couple of years later the apartment complex moved to genuinely good cable internet and got rid of the HomePNA shit. Wish they had done it a lot earlier.
>>52601142
Thats kind of what I had to deal with, as much as comcast and verizon can suck, the small ISPs are the worst because its impossible to resolve problems.I'm really fucking missing fiber optics, which apparently there are no lines even installed in CT so I'm out of luck.
>>52600456
>germany
>provider get called "unitymedia"
>better name would be "unityfaget"
>in germany you don't can use any router for your connection from provider
>we're getting our connection above koax-cable
>we got a modem from provider to change koax to ethernet
>this box can also be used as a router
>we closed every services on this box until it's just converts the connection and not more
>using after this box our own router we bought
>everything worked fine all ok
>until one day I cam home after workday
>saw on my end devices a wlan network that we don't have activated
>i got really mad of this fucking niggashit
>find out provider connected to this fucking box
>changed configuration
>wlan activated with WEP
>FTP user got created with root rights
>and and and
>portscan from outta my network told me over 30 ports are open on box
>disabled any shit they changed
>I got more mad of this niggashit
>called my provider and ask them what the hek went wrong
>they told me this is normal after updating firmware the default configuration get load
>I asked him if he is serious?
>he told me yeah this is normal
>I said to him this is really bad technology
>I asked him why I don't got any message of changes or their connection on MY box
>he said this isn't my box this is the box of "unityfaget"
>me again if he is serious because his naughty answer?
>I really got mad over 9000 at this point
>I said him that I want any changelogs of changes on my box
>he said there are no changelogs
>I said you MUST HAVE to do changelogs
>now I got an email address where I can ask for them
>so the support were naughty as shit
>and I never got any answer on my mail
>fuck "unityfaget"
>fuck their configuration
>fuck their compremised network devices
>fuck everything
I had my share of problems with that french ISP.
>one day
>check the speed
>7.5 mb/s
>it's usually 11 mb/s
>call the ISP
>first people told me it's because too many Wifi devices were connected
>it didn't matter how I yelled that they weren't using bandwidth
>Hang up
>next is a ching chong trying to tell me about attenuation over copper
>tell the chink I calculated the attenuation, and that I had 11 mbps yesterday
>he gives me my 11 mbps back
I think these jews didn't want to upgrade their shitty main distribution frame, as there were new people inhabiting this city.
They are the worst.
>>52600456
>Frontier
Yeah, I don't even need to read more. They suck. So bad. And the worst part is, when you live in the middle of nowhere, it's the only option you've got aside from dial-up.
>>52600456
>parents get HD TV years ago
>can't even experience HD because HDMI won't work
>have to use component
>don't know if it's the TV, cable, or cable box
>tried different cable, still doesn't work
>call Comcast
>they send a technician
>they refuse to believe they had anything to do with it
>tells us it's the TV, not the cable box
>call Sony
>they refuse to believe they anything to do with it
>tells us it's the cable box, not the TV
>still no HD
>one day try again with the HDMI cable
>it works
>unplug to change something around
>plug back in
>it doesn't work
WHAT THE FUCK
>>52600456
I've got satellite internet.
I get 20gbs a month.
I'd literally kill someone to get 3mbs; eat a dick.
>>52601420
>this is normal
lmao, ive heard this a million times
motherfuckers would cut my internet connection at least once a week, then I'd call them , they would put me on hold for some 10 minutes, then tell me their systems are fully functional and the issue is at home. Then I'd get connected, just like that, out of the blue.
>>52601752
>20
Fuck you fag, I only get 17gb/month with my satellite isp, asshole. Those 3gb must be nice to have.
>>52601899
Hate that shit, and its impossible to prove theyre doing it on purpose most likely
>>52601420
For anyone trying to read this niggershit, essentially in Germany and Benelux our choice of modem is restricted to the piece of shit we get from the ISP. Unitymedia, also known as a now dead company UPC, was known to constantly fuck things up. These days we usually get a piece of shit wifi-modem, which not only has flaky firmware, but also resets to default configuration if it receives an update. The thing being a modem/router, it means all router settings are reset too, so you're stuck dealing with either:
>use integrated router, settings constantly get fucked up and you have to input them from scratch every update
>use external router, disable router functions on modem, functions turn on after an update and it fucks everything up
Personally, I nag the living shit out of my ISP for modem-only models so I don't have to deal with this shit.
>>52601862
yeah, this fucked up...
>>52602028
thanks for the help
>>52602028
any particular reason to why modems are restricted by ISPs?
>>52601750
Test the tv with something else with hdmi out you poor dipshit
>>52602113
Mostly for support reasons I presume. It's easier to troubleshoot if they only have to deal with a tiny list of supported devices. I wouldn't mind it if those things worked properly, but every once in a while they introduce some piece of shit model that can't even keep a stable connection to the ISP.
>>52602226
well...a PS3 connected with HDMI works on it...so it must be the cable box
I guess I'm just retarded
I still hate comcast
>>52600456
I have a real ripper for you about the main ISP here in New Zealand, fairly recent too.
>Telecom, the virtual monopoly of Telephone and Internet service has changed their name to "Spark" to save face
>People know that they're changing name and brand because they're a shit company and have been useless in terms of customer service
>They're not buying that crap
>Landlords are retarded and stay with Spark regardless, even though I warn them that Spark are nothing but trouble
>One day while playing MMO the internet goes down
>Check modem, modem says the connections lost
>What the fuck
>Search google on phone for next few hours
>The companies DNS servers have been poisoned by some fuck up and the ISP goes down from a huge DDOS
>Spark puts out some bullshit story about being hacked and that everything would be back up asap
>No internet for 2 weeks
>Spark blames not themselves for letting their DNS servers get poisoned, but instead blame their customers for having 'bad modems' that let their servers be compromised
>Biggest load of shit I've ever head
>Spark puts out a PSA that they're going to block literally hundreds of modems and routers and my $200 NZD one is on that list
>So fucking furious.jpg
>Have to search their list of approved routers
>Vast majority of them have their brand slapped on them
>Finally find another $150 one that's on the list and not a huahue piece of shit
>After 3 weeks and nearly having a coronary I have internet again
>No reimbursement for loss of internet
>No reimbursement for blocking of router
>Cant sell router because majority of people won't be able to access internet with it
>Majority of people STILL stuck with this shit company after this
I don't fucking understand. This incident is one of MANY times that Spark fucked up monumentally in this country and yet people STILL insist that they're not all that bad.
>Landlords are still on Spark
>>52602113
>>52602264
Yeah thats right it easy for troubleshooting. By unitymedia the mac address from the modem is configured on your uplink that means you can changed the modem with another one, it wouldn't work and you get no connection to your ISP. You just get ethernet access when you have the modem with the configured mac address on your uplink. But nvm the modems are generally compremised. Some configuration changes you did as consumer on this modems don't success. You will get the success systeminfo when you changed something but this isn't true some services are activated after try to change it. When you are interested read this: http://freetz.org/wiki/WikiStart.en
>>52602458
>New Zealand
I'm sorry
That's really a great example of how much ISPs lie to cover their asses
>>52602560
Is my potential build alright?
PCPartPicker part list: http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/htfYMp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/p/htfYMp/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($389.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D9L 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Computer Lounge)
Motherboard: Asus Z170M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($228.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($136.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Power Supply: Cooler Master 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DGX 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($67.20 @ Ascent Technology)
Other: Cooler Master PSU PRICE ($160.00)
Other: Jonsbo V4 ($140.00)
Other: 2TB Barracuda (Purchased For $116.00)
Other: EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW ACX 2GB (Purchased For $200.00)
Total: $1556.15
>>52602679
Kinda completely unrelated but yeah it sounds like a good build, but idk why you would only get a 750 ti when ur also getting DDR4 RAM and a sound card
>>52602731
OH SHIT WRONG THREAD
Meant to post to /SQT/ sorry people!
The 750 ti is what I'm keeping over from a previous build, im considering trading it up for a 960.
I have to pick cards under 220 mm otherwise they don't fit the case
>>52602760
haha its all cool man
>>52601048
is there anyway to do something similar now?
>>52600456
>frontier
Where i come from, we call them fucktier
>>52604177
Are they just in CT and NY? Because I never heard of them before when I lived in MA
>>52602458
worldnet is a pretty viable ISP, but you can and will be talking to Asian tech supporters.
>say that I can't understand his accent
>he basically starts deepthroating the mic
>it actually helps
>ISP hate
I don't care who you are or what our reasoning is. If you have Comcast or if its your only option, never go with it.
I dot care if you have 33 times my current ISP speed (I've checked this a few times), at least mine won't shaft me every fucking way possible.
Comcast needs to die. Timewarner too but Comcast first
>>52604606
didnt comcast buy timewarner?
>>52604606
and is that fucking water cooling on a router?
>>52604694
>>52604719
I recall yes but I still consider them separate.
And yes. You ever feel how hot that shit can get?
>>52602789
Only if you know about and can find a flaw in your ISP's systems....so very unlikely
You'd have to correctly guess a MAC address to spoof on a given node
>>52604694
The acquisition was dropped because the DoJ threatened an anti-trust lawsuit if it went through.
>>52604694
No. Merger was shot down by the government
The worst ISP I dealt with was when I still lived with my parents.
>HughesNet
>mfw 0.5 kbps download speeds
>can't watch YouTube
>can't play any games online
>4chan pages take 5+ minutes to load if they even do at all
>0.5
>KBPS
>>52604983
>0.5kbps
How the fuck is that even possible? That's well below even the earliest dial-up modems people were sold when all they did was want to read text only BBS's.
Did they try to block youtube and 4chan or something? The ISP my parents had at one point didn't block, but discouraged people from playing any online games except flash-based browser games, but didn't actually try to stop people from playing online games.
>>52605044
Two words: satellite internet. Pathetically slow yet outrageously expensive.
>>52604983
I know that pain, I'm using them now(since they got bought by DirectTV or whatever) for satellite internet, and dear god, the ping, download, and upload are complete shit
It took me over an hour to download a single 10 minute video
>>52605237
Ive never got why people buy that shit, especially people that could get internet by cable. Same thing with satellite TV, like why the fuck are you paying for something that's gonna shit itself whenever there is a storm
>>52605301
If you live really isolated areas, satellite internet is often the only option.
>>52600456
>Tired of xfinity's bullshit, talk to our cable provider about any nearby services.
>Shithole town has only four ISPs and all of them suck.
>Cable provider tells us about these people called viasat communications
>Sounds like some kind of bootleg ISP but at this point I have no other options
>What I amuse was a mexican and a high-school drop out fuck with our roof and wall.
>Tells us it's broadband dispite it being cable
>Didn't give us any "registration plans" dispite us needing it.
>Getting 797 ping currently
>Cant call support because they fucked up our home phones and my cellphone has an absurdly high bill to keep me from calling anyone.
>Used neigbors cellphone
>Had them called 7 times and had the same retards come to my house three times.
>Still nothing is fixed
>mfw I have to deal with that internet atm.
>mfw even comcass would be better than this.
>>52605934
>797 ping
dude.... fucking sue them
>>52605301
You can't just "get internet by cable" anon. The infrastructure is already there, or it never will be. Comcast and it's ilk don't give 2 shits about you and will never EVER run new lines unless suddenly 1000 people are on your street wanting cable internet.
It's literally a captive audience. You have dial up, or you have satellite.
>>52606430
Viasat is satellite internet. 600 is about the best latency he'll ever see out of it.
>get college apartment
>got Northland because they were the only company that would install cable in short enough order
>wi-fi will periodically drop, have to disconnect and reconnect
>have had times where the time between reconnects was less than a minute, and repeatedly so
Fuckers manage to make me miss Charter, seriously.
>>52605934
>sattelite internet
I AM LAUGHING AT YOUR LIFE ATM
>>52600456
chat log with small isp that provides cable and sat internet
Mark S' says: Thank you for contacting EarthLink LiveChat, how may I help you today?
Mark S: Hello, My name is Mark S. How may I assist you?
>me: hello, i am inquiring about your cable speeds as i wish to switch isps
Mark S: Okay.
>me: is 20mbps down the fastest cable speed possible for residential packages? its rather slow
Mark S: Yes, that is the fastest available.
>me:I'm looking for about ~100 mpbs+
>me: is there any other plan?
Mark S: Unfortunately No.
>me: thats a shame
>since my area only has Comcast and Verizon for cable internet providers
Mark S: Okay.
>me:and im locked to Comcast as my only provider
>me: is the business class package the same speed?
This dipshit: You will have more options in Business packages.
Markus: I mean, you will have more than 20 Mbps.
>me: what speeds can i get?
Mark S: You need to contact our Business support regarding this.
Mark S: They will check it and provide the available options.
>me: also, does your company allow any modem/router and has no data caps?
Mark S: You need to contact our Business support regarding this.
>me: how may i connect to that?
Mark S: I will provide the contact number.
Mark S: Please give me a moment.
Mark S: http://You need to contact our Business support regarding this.
>>http://You
>me: how may i connect to that
>me: i just asked that
>me: what is the contact number
>me: its a fucking telephone number you dont have to decode it
I tried to print the chat but it seemed he disconnected me with no disconnect message.
>>52607443
sounds like a dick
>>52601420
Open the box and rip out the antennas.
>>52602679
>skylake
yeah its fine unless you want your cpu to not randomly freeze up when doing some odd thing cpus never done before
crunching numbers
>>52607560
if you're talking about him i dont agree since hes probably somewhere in sub-asia and is just reading out of a manual, but with cs like that im better off sticking with comshit
>>52604386
They are in Illinois also and I've heard nothing but shit about them from speed support and connection dropping
>>52600456
Where do you live? Frontier is only in Wa, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and the reservation portion of NM.
>>52601752
Can confirm had Hughesnet back in the day when I lived in the sticks. Couldn't even shit post back then
>>52601752
>>52601957
Fuck you both, 15gb here.
>>52608818
They exist in MI as well.
>>52601750
keep in mind component in an analog format, there's no means for the devices to detect what each other support
you might simply need to change a setting in the cable box in output 1080i/720p
>>52604983
>500 baud
fuck
reading this thread makes me grateful for my gigabit Internet
Thank you Google fiber
>>52601420
Calls it niggershit
Is definitely 100% white design
Kek
>>52600838
Elisa is a shit ISP desu. I used to get my internet from them and couldn't open ports. Is the article online?
>>52600758
I had the same experiece back in 2005-6... those were the days, man. Still have the modded Motorola Surfboard laying around somewhere, too.
>>52609295
NC aswell, I called, it's about a mile short of being at my house.
>>52609463
>botnet fiber
>>52600456
>mfw highspeed internet is 3mb down, 3mb
Um yeah, thats the standard speed for frontier....
I lived in a house in Western NC and they told me I could get 12 initially but we ended up with 3 down 768k up.
Their customer service is a joke.... They sent me three modems because I had to keep calling to complain that they never arrived and then they all came at once 2 weeks later. Terrible.
I called to complain about the shitty speed and was told I was lucky to even have internet as they tell everyone they can get "Up to 12" so long as they can get any kind of service from frontier.
a few houses further up the mountain only got 1 mbps since they were too far for 3 mbps.
>>52604606
>2018
WATER COOLING OVERCLOCKED ROUTER by RAZER
>>52607088
Bridge their shitty modem/router into a dual band. I guarantee living in an aprtment 2.4ghz is gonna suck.
>>52600456
OP, my internet here is 200kB/s Down and 50kB/s Up. Canada is quite the pain, eh
who else cocks?
>>52609473
No, stfu nigga. It's niggashit, nigga.
>>52609484
Elisa a shit. No SSH, no HTTP. I called the support and they had no idea why it didn't work. Sent a new router. Still nothing. Port forwarding just doesn't work.
>mfw still on Elisa
>thankfully getting Sonera fiber soon
>better not be this bad
>be Canadian
>pay $50 a month
>get 1.5Mbps up, .5 down
And that's the fastest available to me because I live 1km away from the main road and the internet providers don't have any infrastructure on the road I live on, so instead I have to use Internet connected to a satellite.
My modem's signal levels shit the bed when I get any form of precipitation which causes nonstop T3 time outs. My ISP refuses to do anything what do?
>live in WNC
>go to regional University
>stay off campus, but right across the street is health building
>university fiber is decent
>everywhere else uses Frontier
It's okay if I'm here during a break and nobody is up here to hog the bandwidth. But during a Wednesday night when everyone is at home? You're talking barely able to keep the connection and stream videos, even.
>>52609976
ACTUALLY GETTING SONERA XDDD HAVE FUN WITH THE DOWNTIME IDIOT
>>52602458
Still selling that router bro? Sparks garbage but I'm with the second devil so it's all good.
Time Warner
>move into new apartment
>the one and only service i can get is from Time Warner
>already have a spare modem from my previous contract
>repeat no less than a dozen times on the phone that I WILL NOT BE NEEDING A NEW MODEM
>technician brings a modem anyway
>swears to me up and down the fucking sky that there won't be a monthly equipment rental fee
>insists that he NEEDS TO USE THIS THING or i will not be allocated an IP address
>one month later
>check my bill
>Equipment Rental Fee: $14.99
>mfw
We seriously need to raise pitchforks on these faggots
they make me pay money to shitpost
wtf is this?
>>52609976
Elisa doesn't have SSH or HTTP? What?
Sonera is fine, I'm currently with DNA and it's like hell.
>Any torrents cause them to throttle my speed
>Random maintenance without warning
>Packet loss through the roof
All on 'brand new fiber network so nothing can be wrong t. customer support'.
I am literally waiting for the Google Fiberoptic botnet to finally roll out in my city.
At least Google won't fucking charge me a monthly fee *after* cancelling the service to continue spying on me.
>>52611621
Can't open ports so no use running sshd or httpd except for LAN.
>>52612191
So you can't open ports at all with Elisa or just 80 and 22?
Either way it's fairly stupid.
>>52612264
Could be to avoid problems with some weird network setup maybe.
Remember reading about somebody who was on Welho (now DNA) cable internet and suddenly found that he could access a bunch of other Welho subscribers' shared iPhoto libraries because they were somehow on the same network and their iPhoto installs saw themselves as being different machines on the same network. Apparently the guy didn't find any nudes, just some couple's baby pictures.
>>52612306
I suppose so, but it's still stopping people from fully using their service.
Even more so for the more common ports.
>Verizon starts advertising and boasting that they're going to bring Fios to my neighborhood.
>in 2011
I guess it isn't coming.
>have 200gig a month downloads
>1.5mebabyte down 1 up connection
>Pretty happy since it's cheap
>company suddenly bumps my downloads per month up to 1TB for free
>internet speeds instantly drop to 300kb down about 70 up
>call them to complain
>line attenuation restart router blah blah all shit I checked and know works
>put through several different people over a few days all make me do the same tests, all respond with literally with I dunno and just skirt my questions until I would hang up
>final offer from them is to send someone out to check the wiring and if no problem is found they will bill me $200 for the callout
>resist urge to berate person on phone just doing their job
>about 2 weeks later speeds go back to normal
I was pretty fucking mad that whole time and was doing research to make an offical complaint with a government ombudsman.
>>52605301
tons of people in rual australia have no choice , it's not like a company is going to roll out 1000km of fiber per person. I was looking at pricing out of interest and it's like $70 a month for 1 gig, or $600 for 20.
>>52604859
Is that a cluster of mac mini's
How is that cost effective at all.
>>52612872
it's not, but they probably had some specific reason to need to run OSX server, apple stopped making Xserver rackmount machines, this was the solution
I don't see my employer on here
>feels good
>>52600456
>frontier
Holy shit do you live in paradise because I work for an isp in the area.
3mb down is pretty standard for that area though.
>>52600456
Every time I've called TWC about network issues they blame every single device they possibly can that wasn't provided by them.
>>52612872
You can't build an Xgrid cluster with just any computer
>>52612465
>dialup
>2016
kek, maybe time to move to a city
>>52600456
What did your old roomate do?
>>52611610
>$15/month for a cunting modem
Jesus nigger is that some fucking 4x4 MIMO spec 10 gigabit shit?
>>52601750
>implying that component doesn't support HD
>>52600456
>Frontier
Thats your problem
>>52601420
>only cable ISP competitor is Kabeldeutschland
>both operate in different regions
>be forced to use ISP issued modem that also acts as a crappy router
>lose connection three times a week
>carrier grade NAT/Dual Stack lite (aka shared IPv4 and unique IPv6)
>ports still not publicly accessible
>must pay 3€/month so they enable wifi on the modem/router/clusterfuck (yes it's the same hardware)
>switch to 1&1
>sees 50mbit VDSL
>talk to them on the phone to confirm that it's accurate
>rep says yes
>mfw only get 16mbit/s
At least they reduced the price as an apology.
CenturyLink contracts its tech support to really shitty low paying companies like TeleNetwork. TeleNetwork hires people who work from home taking your calls for $8.00. CenturyLink is often the only ISP in many rural areas. In those areas they purposefully do not allocate funding to support their infrastructure. Customers are therefor stuck with really shitty service and no way out.
Customers call up several times in a week asking why their internet has been down for (days) or has become unimaginably slow. The $8.00 wagecuck who is working from his home PC and browsing imgur on the side does not give a single fuck. He does not choose when his phone rings, inbound calls are answered automatically. He hates his fucking job and he hates you. Many of his calls are password resets for legacy email accounts, during which he must teach an 85 year old man from Tennessee how the capslock key works for 30minutes.
He notices that your account has been flagged as repeat / disgruntled caller and reads you the script he was given: "I'm sorry for the inconvenience, there is a bandwidth exhaust outage in your area. Our technicians are currently in the field working to resolve the issue as quickly as possible." Which is 100% bullshit. What that actually means is: "We know your service sucks in rural Oklahomoa, but there isn't a high enough customer density in your county to justify us investing in the infrastructure there, so your service will stay shitty, get fucked."
>>52615345
tl;dr CenturyLink sells more bandwidth than its infrastructure is capable of delivering.
>move to Shanghai for work
>go to a China Telecom shop at the mall near my community
>"You have to go to our other branch 12 blocks away to sign up"
>fuck it, call an ISP called Great Wall Broadband because I see a billboard advertising 50M/50M for $200/year
>two guys come within an hour
>they come with a spool of ethernet cable and no tools or equipment
>one guy cuts the cable to length with his teeth while the other fiddles with a box outside the building
>they want to use my laptop to test the connection
>can't read English so they give up and leave
>I figure it out on my own
I do get 50M if I do a speed test with a server in Shanghai, but I get 0.1M when connecting to anything outside China
Every torrent tracker is blocked, DHT is blocked, random ports are closed, speed drops to 0 randomly throughout the day, VPN can't maintain a connection for more than a few minutes.
Not to mention, at work I have to use a 4G wifi thing because "the building manager won't let us install internet"
>>52609768
OP here, Cox is my only other option but it's fucking $65 for just internet
>>52613903
Came in towards the end of last semester, nigga drank all my booze and was crying on the phone to his mom cuz apparently his professor told him his screenplays were shit.
>50k a year tuition
>goes into screenwriting
I should have known
>>52615593
Sounds like China alright.
>Telefonica, Argentine Republic of the Congo
>Shitty ADSLon telephone lines that haven't been maintained since a decade and a half ago
>8 down, less-than-1 up
>I'm actually paying for more than that, but this is all that'll come through the shitty lines and the next step down is 3 down and fuck-all up, which is unbearably slow for me
>Hosting a webpage on this thing is suffering, AT LEAST they don't block port 80
>Lights go out every once in a while because lolthridworld, the shitty router they gave me fries itself one day because of this
>Don't want to bring that broken piece of shit to them to replace, they send one of their tech guys over
>Tech guy shows up with new router, but tells me that it's my fault for not having the fucking router on nothing short of a fucking UPS
>Lol, k, whatever I'll just buy a new one, take the broken hunk of junk away
>No no no, that router was OUR property and it was being borrowed to you, you have to pay for it now that it's broken, since it was in your care
>Ask how much it costs
>Nearly 70 US dollars
>It didn't even have 802.11n WiFi and it had 4 10/100 ports
>He's asking me to give the money directly to him
>Tell them that this is a scam, I'm not an idiot, and to go fuck himself
>Gets angry and says they'll cut service, that he's a "qualified tech" and not a con
>Tell him again to go fuck himself
>He takes the router and storms off
>Way back from uni buy a basic TP-Link ADSL soapbox
>Plug it in
>Working fine a year later
>>52600456
Hi guys how do our ISP's get the internet? if they can set it up can i set it up too? my own ISP would it be hard?
>>52616960
They lease a connection directly from backbone/tier 1 providers.
>>52616960
Yes it'd be very hard and expensive
>>52616960
>if they can set it up can i set it up too?
Contact your nearest Tier 1 service provider. Pay a gorrilion dollars for a 100Gbit pipe to your house. Shitpost so hard you pierce the heavens.
>>52615345
I have Centurylink in a big city and they're complete ass. Download speeds are okay but the upload speeds are abysmal.
And if I download more than 250GB a month for several months in a row, they redirect all traffic to a service notice telling me to use less bandwidth or upgrade, but I have the best they offer in the area, which is really mediocre given how populated it is.
At least they don't charge for going over their supposed limits, but fuck em anyway.
I dunno why I even get those notices when they can't and won't do jack shit about it.
Looking at american ISPs make me glad to live in the UK.
Pretty much fibre everywhere, no data caps at cheap prices. I pay £12 a month (after tax for you amerifats) get my full 24meg speed that I pay for with no data caps or throttling.
>>52608818
Maybe they're bigger than I thought because I'm in Connecticut
Yes, in Brazil is absolutely normal to take about 1 to 3 hours trying to solve a ISP problem on phone.
>cable one
>forced data caps
>if you go over they force you to take the next plan up
>basic monthly limit is 300gb
Cancer, when will data limits go away?
>>52618107
>force you to take the next plan up
Is that even legal?
I pay for 200 down, get 210 down and 15 up.
>>52608875
Can confirm Hughes' Net a shit.
Grandfather was on Hughes for internet, and Dish for television at the same time.
20GB daily and 20GB "extra" from 2AM-8AM every day (but they tell you it's a 40GB package).
He was paying $100 a month with Hughes, but I finally managed to convince him to go with Dish Net, which is only $60 with rental fees included.
Same speed and he's still getting 20GB daily, with a huge-ass 50GB limit from two to eight AM.
How does Hughes' Net stay in business?
>>52620717
What's with ISPs and not giving any upload speed anymore? I'm guessing it has to do with 15 year olds and LOIC
When I was with Bell they kept coming out and cutting my cables. And good luck getting tech support that isn't in India.
>live in shitty apartment complex
>owned by a large real estate company
>sells local isp service to renters for a huge premium, calls it their own service
>$55 a month, 12 up 3 down
>multiple providers at competitive prices right down the road
>they don't allow any other service in the complex
>mfw when 200gb cap
It was utter garbage, I work for them now doing tech support though. I have no shame.
>>52607443
>http://You need to contact our Business support regarding this.
Did you follow that link?
>>52600456
>move into grandmothers house to commute to college cuz old roomate had a mental breakdown
>old roomate had a mental breakdown
What happened? Explain pls
>>52600456
I pay for fios 25down/25up, and I get around 10 down and 15 up on average.
I'm using Teksavvy and they're mostly alright but it's very prone to going down, especially at night.
>sitting up late watching movies over KODI while off work
>goes out
>comes back half an hour later
>goes out again within two minutes
>comes back five minutes later
>goes out again literally right away
>give up and just go to bed angry
ISPs are great, super customer service (answer phone fast and get free months if you have a problem), super cheap and super fast. As you can guess I am outside America so we don't have data caps either.
>>52621999
I have a cap but my ISP keeps raising it for free, not that I've ever hit it before.
I worked at frontier as internet tech support for 2 years ask away
>>52602113
Modem+routers are 100% restricted for Jew reasons. They do it so they can charge you a $10 "utility fee" every month, for a $30 piece of shit.
>>52621079
>search LOIC
>some stress test gnu shit
>low-orbit ion cannon
Where would 15 y/os get low-orbit ion cannons?
>>52621822
>come in to the room end of semester
>all of my booze is gone
>roomate is drunk and crying to his mom on the phone cuz professor said his screenplays were shit
I hated this guy so that was the last straw, I can go on and on about how fucking weird he was.
>>52622090
Do you hate your life?
>live in NY
>can't get verizon despite there being FIOS like 3 miles up the road
>TWC is only option next to Satellite which is trash regardless.
>TWC
>Oh you'll get 50mb/s download and 5upload
>ok well 50mb is a lot, why can't I get the 25mb/s package with 5 upload?
>thats not a package we offer, 5mb/s upload is a LOT
>no it really isn't I have a hard enough time using drop box and stuff trying to sync between my computers
>well if you get the 50mb/s package you won't have that issue
>yes I will because I need more upload
>50mb/s download supports up to a family of 6 at once
>I don't care about the download I need more upload speed!
>you can play games and stuff great with the 25mb/s down 3mb/s up package
>I don't care I need more upload than 5mb/s
>well our business packages will get you 100mb/s download and 5 upload
I swear TWC is retarded, literally fucking everything is a hassle and they won't do jack shit between the hours of 3pm and 8pm when the service becomes literally unusable because of all the shared usage crap
>>52622090
Are you excited for Batman v Superman?
>>52600456
dumb frogposter
>>52622392
Usually if you just start saying "can I speak with a manager" or something else, your service gets escalated.
>>52622396
It's a fish you faggot
>>52622413
Its never a manager its just another guy they pass along the tech support hotline
I know because I've gotten jessica 3 times in the last month. First she was the person that picked up the phone. When I asked for a manager, she directed me to "Dave" who was some indian. Another guy named "Steve" picked up who was most certainly hispanic and I got Jessica again as my "manager" The last day Jessica picked up and then she transferred me to a manager 45 minutes of holding later and she answered "Hi this is Jessica what can I do for you today?"
>>52615593
That's because you live in fucking China
>>52622444
Tough shit then. I'm in NY and literally like a year apart I made service calls and "Neo", a chink answered. Another time I got someone who didn't understand what I was saying, and the next person was a lot better english speaking and helped quickly.
>>52622396
Bait made me respond 2/10
>>52622471
I always got Indians with names like Bob and Roger and Larry. Before I left I flipped my shit on the phone, called "Steve" a curry-nigger and Pajeet a lot.
>>52622471
I called Verizon one day and asked to rent a static IP when I wanted to start up a web server for myself and they kept telling me all they offered was dynamic IP's. When I questioned the guy on "how do people put up servers then on their home networks" he said "I don't work with business relations"
Actually legit story here:
>Shit Teir ISP in NW Ireland
>ISP is actually WiSP
>Uses UBNT hardware
>Uses Unsecured, out of date, UBNT hardware
>http://172.20.169.213/admin.cgi/.css RIP backdoor insert
>Call ISP
>Put on hold
>Tech guy comes on phone
>Ensures me he runs a secure network
>Use AirControl to backdoor about 900 nanostations/bridges
>Write up legit report and send it to regional manager
>Noreply.jpg
>*A long time later*
>Bench warrant
>You going to court nig for hacking our shit
>Go to court
>Quote dataprotection act
>Section 2 part 7 point d (I think)
>Yall nigs as datacontrollers gota provide sufficent security to keep the bad kids out
>Their lawfags are turning red
>Judge sees me as freeked out minor who can barely afford a lawfag of his own
>Emotional damage awarded
>That went flipside didnt it bitch?
>>52622528
>ISP drops you because they don't want you as a customer
>>52622293
thats just the name m8
>>52622551
They did, yea.
>>52622293
>not knowing what LOIC is
spot the newfag
don't even get me started
>>52622663
Is that one of those British TV license enforcement vans that claims they have a device that sniffs TV signals from your house?
>>52622663
PLEASE NO, IT BURNS
>>52622332
>I can go on and on about how fucking weird he was.
Please do
>>52622692
no it's an MJ Quinn/BT OpenReach van, 2 of the most incompetent companies to grace the british isles
>Have comcast
>charging my mom $40 a month for 512 KBps down & up
>Finally convince her to upgrade around christmas
>Supposed to be getting 25 MBps down/3 MBps up
>Highest download I get is 12.5 MBps
>Upload is 128 Kbps (Yes, kilobits) on average
>Call them up, bitch whine and moan
>Say it's not their problem
>They want me to pay $75 an hour for some deadbeat contractor to come out here and tell me nothing's wrong
The only reason we don't have a data cap is because FiOS is a competitor in my neighborhood. It's incredible, really. Too bad my mom doesn't like Verizon for whatever reason
>>52622392
>>52622703
>first night as his roomate I turn off the lights around 1am, 3am I awake to the sound of his MacBook yelling JOHHHNNNN CENNNNA
I wake up and the lights are on and his is just giggling like a maniac, I kind of just ignore it and go back to sleep
>it's 4am now and it's a school night.. I hear him blasting "real nigga hours"as loud as fucking possible through his headphones
I wake up and the lights are still on and he is asleep like a baby while this shit is blasting through his ears
>>52622795
I kinda of realized I was fucked real quick cuz this kid would whisper to himself stuff they made no sense, and whenever I tried to make conversation with him it would have to revolve around memes like no fucking joke or else he would steer the conversation to be about memes.
>he never left the room until anime club
>he would eat $40-50 worth of chicken wings in his boxers on his bed and not share anything
>he would cry about his screenplays constantly
>he annoyed me to be in his video project until I have in... and then made me do it at 2am and it took fucking a week at around 3 hours a day. Then he says we should celebrate finishing this project... then fucking asks me to pay for the pizza even though his mom is filthy rich and gives him tons of money.
>>52622868
Is he /b/?
>>52622879
More like r9k shit
>>52622868
Did he ever ask you to netflix and chill with him?
>>52622895
He would prefer pornhub and chill, since he was always just watching porn... like just watching it and not jacking off.
>>52607443
Be glad yo could even get 20mbps down. My provider doesn't do cable, so we had to do satellite, and I only get 1.1 mbps down.
>who Windstream here?
>>52622911
Reminds me of my brother. Our computers were always in the living room, but rather than jerking off in private like a normal person (and his room was two feet from his PC) he would whack off right there and just scramble to get his pants on and close the window if he heard anyone coming, as if we didn't know what he was doing. One time he was too slow and I got a pretty good look at his anime dickgirl collection.
>>52622947
Fucking lol, like if this dude was chill he could just say I wanna jack off and I would be like sure and leave for an hour. But no he has to be a weirdo
>>52622947
I would always fumble with my keys for like a minute outside of the dorm cuz I could leave for 5 mins and he would be jacking off
>>52622998
I think that's weirder than my brother, yeah. But like nigger if you want to whack off there are ways to do it in your room. This was pushing ten years ago and even then I had solutions to get my fap material while I wasn't at the PC.
>>52623023
I'm glad my bedroom door squeaked whenever it was opened because at least he would usually hear me coming and stop.
>>52622392
Just go with the 50/5, you tard. Better than 1/0.5.
>>52623086
I don't fucking care I need more upload
god damn you autistic shitter I don't care about download just gimme more fucking upload
>>52623086
Do you work at TWC ?
>>52623099
Why exactly do you need more upload?
>>52623107
I'm a NEET, so no
>>52623140
>Why exactly do you need more upload?
m8 I gotta run so much god damn shit that relies on uploading to my other computers and fuck
>>52622911
I know a guy like that. He literally just watches porn for hours - as if he were watching a really interesting movie - and doesn't even move. Doesn't look aroused, doesn't leave to fap, just watches. Weird.
>>52600850
ISPs should be hung upside down and castrated for throttling for no good reason
>>52623209
Instead of saying you have to run a bunch of shit that relies on upload, tell us WHAT you're fucking running that relies on upload
>>52616639
I had no problems with Cox until this shit rolled in last week on the bottom right of my page.
>>52623397
Dude go away I don't wanna catch zeus from you
>>52623397
Wtf, did you download some kind of Cox program?
>>52616936
I've seen the shit Telefonica pulls off in Peru. Movistar is pure shit.
>>52623450
Some ISPs have the audacity to hijack whatever webpage you're visiting just to tell you>>52623450
some stupid and inane shit.
>>52623450
Nah. We use all Linux PCs in my house, they tried to sell us the McAfee Suite
>>52623436
>rubs my fiber optic connection against your router.
Switched to a local ISP that uses point-to-point millimeter wave radio dishes for infrastructure. I've haven't looked back since.
>>52623532
HELP
I NEED AN ADULT
Anyone have Verizon fios? I have twc and am thinking of switching. Is it any good?
>>52622392
its the same in Cali too. Im paying $172 for cable and internet(still live with the parents so I pay for the internet and their shitty channels)
I cant get a plan that gets me 50down20up. I dont need more than 30down but i need the 20up to stream. When I explained this at a time warner store front they said that they only offer packages and will never do custom plans.
> Small Australian ISP
>Run by two blokes in an apartment just reselling other services
>Got $700k Government grant for providing "regional NBN services"
>Recognise owner at strip club
>Start hanging out
>Buys me multiple lap dances
>Boasts that the grant is pretty much gone, due to strippers and coke over the last few months
>Few months later
>Company goes into administration
>Director starts new broadband company immediately
>Tone Abet gives them a $1.2m Government grant for providing regional NBN
>>52623879
Wow, leave it to Australia
>>52623567
I AM AN ADUUUUUUULT
>>52624021
I NEED A DIFFERENT ADULT
>>52624056
You called?
ViaSat / Exede here.
Satellite internet.
Ping is HORRENDOUS (600ms average) but the free zone is great. I download about 25 GBs a night, and sometimes up to a terabyte a month (all access totaled).
Speeds are 28 mbps down, 3 mbps up.
>>52624101
I NEED AN ADULT WHO ISN'T GOING TO DO LEWD THINGS TO MY COMPUTER
Fairpoint's fix for everything is to just send you a new modem.
>DSL drops everyday at the same time
>sends me a new modem, still have the issue
>Speeds drop to dialup speeds in the mornings
>sends me a new modem, still have issue
>have 15Mbps plan, get 2Mbps
>sends me a new modem, still have issue
After I swallow my pride and call the tech support it always ends with them telling me to do a speakeasy speedtest (because they don't want you to see their 1 star rating on speedtest.net) , turn the modem on/off, then 30 mins on hold they come back to say a tech will be out to check the lines.
>Tech shows up
>gets in cherry picker
>spends 20mins up there
>calls me to say he found the issue,
>says they cut some extra line
Net works fine again for a month then it all starts again. But I have a stockpile of modems new in box.
Man I remember when I had Verizon DSL in NYC.
That shit was awful. It would go down during every storm.
They also went down without notice for 2 weeks due to some shit going down in a nearby tunnel or whatever. Right at the start of my college semester. TWC had the same issue but restored service to all affected customers in 3 days.
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>>52600711
Newfaggot here. Could you explain to me, please?
Are there any ISPs that aren't nigger-jews?
>>52624448
Depends where you are in the world, and even then, non-nigger-jew ISPs are few and far between.
>>52624473
>Depends where you are in the world,
How do I figure that out?
>>52624541
A map?
>>52624584
Maps have nigger-jew ratings?
>>52624609
yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country
>>52624701
Okay, wiseguy, but is there a map that will tell me who the best ISP is?
>>52612412
>ombudsman.
Fucking TDC.
>>52600817
that feel when 50 kb down
>>52615593
Welcome time traveler!, it seems you made a few errors and said you MOVED TO China
As a fellow time traveler i know this is reversed in 10 years, and china will be the free market, while the west will have all of this, all in the name of the great leader of glorious republic of the west
Doland tramp!
But fret not, everyone gets a free wig here!
No one here has it as bad as my family, here's the story.
We live in the UK, bit of a rural area but theres good internet only about 10 miles from us.
The only line going to my parents house is owned by BT, so it doesnt matter which provider we use its the exact same connection. The speed? 150KB/s down, 50KB up.
My dads a vet and has to be on call at home most nights so the phone line is essential for him. While I was in Uni, theyre phone and internet was down for fucking 3 months. Theyd ring everyday, they would deny there was a problem and it was our set up causing it. Eventually they admitted a fault was on the line, they couldnt fix it unless my parents upgraded to business broadband.
Now this is the ONLY line. My parents had no fucking choice to do it, its essential for my dads job. They upgraded, got it fixed within a week.
It works for a month, still as slow as it was, then just breaks - the internet would just stop, I'd phone them and theyd say its our router set up (it isnt) then when theyd try and fix it on the line, our phones would stop as well.
Currently we have no phone line for the 6th month in a row, and internet that takes about a minute or two to load up a simple google search. My dad has to sleep in his veterinary surgery when hes on duty to take phone calls.
(We have inconsistant mobile signal either)
I've vowed to never give BT a fucking penny for how much theyve fucked my parents back home.
>>52624737
FUCK THIS SHIT COMPANY
>new modem new modem new modem new modem new modem
>okay we'll put in a support ticket and get back to you in a few days
>call them back two weeks later
>oh sorry we don't have that on record
>over billing
>call them up
>takes two fucking hours to get it fixed
>absolutely garbage speeds
>connection randomly drops
>they send a tech guy out
>he pokes around for a few minutes and says there's nothing wrong
>no you're fucking wrong
>different tech guy comes out
>says he found the problem it should be an easy fix and he'll be back in a few days because he doesn't have the tools right now
>he never returns
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>52624922
Fucking sue them you cluelss nerf herder
>>52624737
I don't think there are pure "Best" isp maps. There's this http://www.broadbandmap.gov/technology
also anyone else keep getting pic related with no image even selected
>>52624997
how the fuck would I go about that
this isnt the US where you just sue someone as part of your daily routine
>>52625058
Theyre scamming you for one
Theyre making sure your dads business can get in huge trouble and make a massive loss of money
Basicly tell some guy at the goverment or whatever that you might also be immigrants or whatever and theyll look into it
>>52623879
I recall hearing about this, but I can't remember where. Was it in the news?
>>52624264
A port is a number used to direct incoming connections to the proper program. There are standard port numbers for certain services, web servers generally use 80.
Does anybody have any good stories about their isp?
My isp, telstra, gives me about 15megabits down and .9 megabits up.
>>52610347
WCU is where you go.
I graduated in 2014, the new health building is pretty nice. I hope your not renting from elizabeth st johns apartment complex. lol they have this IT guy actually throttle down the internet during peak times.
Also, I remember one apartment complex near the health building provided free internet from their one D link wireless G router lol was like 3 mbps for the whole complex. Idiots.
>>52609697
Come to think of it, that probably explains a lot; would nearby routers cause me to periodically drop my connection? I'm an idiot so I'm asking.
>>52622525
Check out No-IP dynamic DNS. Its what I use.
>>52623559
>point-to-point millimeter wave radio dishes
care to exxplain?
>>52607665
I think this isn't actually Skylake's fault and requires mobo BIOS updates. I forget though, could be wrong. In any case, motherboard manufacturers are going to fix it assuming they haven't already.
>>52628650
Actually I just read into it and it is Intel's fault. Still fixed through BIOS updates.
>>52616707
Came in towards the end of last semester, nigga drank all my booze and was crying on the >phone to his mom cuz apparently his professor told him his screenplays were shit.
>50k a year tuition
>goes into screenwriting
>50k
>screenwriting
Holy shit that is hilarious
>>52628924
>>50k a year tuition
jesus
50k for me gets me tution, food, books, housing, and a bit of discretionary money for two whole years
>>52600838
>>52609484
>>52609976
>>52610857
>>52611621
>>52612306
So what's the least shitty isp in Finland right now? I live in Helsinki if that matters
>be curry-nigger
>isp is a government run skunkhole company called bsnl
>paying close to $60 (adjusted for lower cost of living) for a 4Mbps plan
>gets throttled to 512Kbps after a mere 8GB of downloads
>I finish the 8GB within the 3rd of every month
>27 days of 56KB per second downloading starts from almost the beginning of the month
The connection is pretty solid and I get what they offer. Also, cyber security here is a joke and no one cares what you download. The speeds are a joke but I've got these things going for me, which is nice.
>>52629565
So the internet there is as absolutely horrifying and corrupt as everything else
>>52602028
I have UPC here in Austria without any major problems. Generally speaking, they even have better service then Telekom Austria, because Telekom can go eat a dick.
>>52629565
>data caps
>2016
How can anyone be this fucking greedy?
4mbps isn't even good.
50mbps isn't even good. Well it would be in a third world country.
8GB is like one decently sized file. Just how much money are they making per terabyte of bandwidth, exactly?
>>52610857
Actually using mobile netwotk which had problems. Maybe get cable retard.
>>52624120
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, CHAMP
>>52621647
omg thanks! it just connected me to the business support chat! I feel stupid ~_~
God tier finrand
Paying 55€ for 11MB down and 1MB up. Sounds like a third world country right? Nope, germany.
>>52630852
Euros are worthless now anyway.
>>52600456
Just install your own fiber line out to the telephone line.
It's not that hard and all you need is about 40-60ft of fiberline, duck tape, and your life.
>>I'm about ready to do it
>>52600456
3mb is slow, unless you mean 3 Mb
>>52631173
Its Mb, I think everyone assumes that now haha
>>52609463
>Look at me, I gave away literally all privacy for speeds I will never use.
Good job you fucking retard.
>>52609463
Enjoy ur botnet
>Be American
>Use Comcast the jews of the ISP buisness
>All good
>60-70 bucks for 75 mbps down
>Downloading 1TB a month
>Never receive a phone call or anything
>Implemented a data cap
>It's literally only 300 GB a month
>10 bucks for every 50 GB used over the cap
>Now I have to watch what I download and be careful with everything, pay around 90 bucks now.
I fucking hate them, but I feel like I have no choice but to use them. I just want Google Fiber to reach Miami.
>>52609463
>>52631546
>masterrace
... use chrome, too
>>52631568
Is somebody else, beside retired persons, living in Miami?
What is this that I hear about Comcast charging people to rent routers? Do they force you to have one of their routers for service?
>>52631585
A lot of people live in Miami, not just old retired people. I live in Hialeah, so mostly just a bunch of Cuban people, it's pretty good desu not that bad at all.
>>52631594
Naw, you could get your own. It cost around 10 dollars a month to rent.
>>52600456
>still
