What /g/ memes have you fallen for lads?
I bought an SSD a week ago and literally havnt noticed a single thing. $150 down the fucking drain.
Last time I ever listin to /g/ about anything
>>52582255
You have to install it too. Buying it isn't enough.
At my workplace all the laptops are slow as fuck (5 minutes boot time), when you replace the HDD with an SSD, they boot up in 20 seconds.
SSD is probably the only thing on /g/ that isn't a meme
>>52582255
Its because you're a fucking idiot who has no idea what he's talking about if he believes SSDs don't offer an improvement.
Gr8b8fgt
>tfw fell for the "SSD's are a meme" meme
waited 2 years to buy one, cant believe how much better they are.
>>52582255
>buys ssd
>installs it and see it show up as D drive.
>restarts computer and no boot speed increase
>"fuckin memes"
My boot speed is already fast, SSDs are a meme
>>52582381
nope
>>52582405
download AS SSD and run it and see the speeds.
If they are very far off from the advertised speeds then you likely didn't install it correctly via BIOS, etc settings.
If it's working as intended then you simply don't do another IO bottlenecked operations to even notice and wasted your money.
The linux meme
>have to learn an entire OS from scratch
>have to do everything from scratch
>have to look up every obscure issue for every hardware ever
>actually have to study a serious issue if I wsnt to fix it or live with a bug
no thanks
>>52582449
Do you mean the gentoo meme?
Not OP here.
Isn't the main problem for OP is that he didn't move his OS and other important files to the SSD. So he has no reason to notice an increase.
I literally refuse to use a computer with a HDD.
>>52582522
Probably misaligned
IDE mode
and countless other things
>>52582449
>have to learn an entire OS from scratch
Jumping from one windows version to the next is about as disruptive but people seem to manage.
There are DE's which work the same as windows, installing something else would be because you want something
>have to do everything from scratch
Like what? find a new set of applications?
You have to do that on windows as well.
Nothing is eternal.
>have to look up every obscure issue for every hardware ever
Only the hardware you own and most things just work.
>actually have to study a serious issue if I wsnt to fix it or live with a bug
It is usually faster to fix something yourself than wait for someone else to notice it.
>>52582527
DON'T YOU MEAN METAPHORICALLY????
SPRRROOOOOOIIIING!
>>52582255
Yeah, I'm glad I only spent $80 on mine. It's still literally the most expensive thing in my computer. Sucks because I could've gotten 3TB for that much and I need the space.
>>52582641
You're not going to sell me on the LInux meme
I can just use Win 7 and call it a day and have guaranteed support from the hardware to drivers to software
With linux, I have a bunch of college students googling for the same things I am
>spend $150+ so the computer I boot up once a week boots up in 5 seconds instead of 15
SSDs were deprecated the moment sleep states were invented.
>>52582255
If you have pic related, in Samsung Magician software enable RAPID mode. It's weird that you haven't noticed anything though. Only the boot time should've been insanely faster for you
>>52582784
because better boot times are the only advantage SSDs bring, amirite?
I bet op bought the ssd and then didn't install his OS on the ssd drive, so it's literally being wasted right now.
>mfw he is so retarded he though he could just plug it in like an expansion card
>>52582796
What advantage is there? The state of all loaded applications is saved when the system is suspended. You're better off spending your money on more RAM.
>>52582837
a) hugely better access times
b) better speeds
c) lower power draw
d) not vulnerable to drops and shakes (good for laptops)
Also, I don't know about you, but I don't keep all the programs I'll ever run open at once
>>52582864
>muh benchmarks
It doesn't translate into anything real.
They're good for laptops because those hard drives suck. They're a meme for desktops.
>>52582890
>It doesn't translate into anything real.
but it does
The lower access times themselves are a huge improvement (especially over 5400rpm drives)
>>52582400
And you're an idiot...
>>52582890
>I don't do any IO dependent ops
>they are a meme
Just go back to your facebook shitposting, these weren't made for you.
>>52582890
>It doesn't translate into anything real.
What is random I/O?
>>52582909
>5400rpm
What century is this?
>>52582962
It's 2016
come on
>>52582980
Exactly. You know they've had these things called 7200rpm drives for 20 years, right?
>>52582255
I bet retard op still uses a sata2 mobo like the faggot he is.
>>52582994
>ADD MOAR RPM
what's this? AMD tier marketing?
>>52583003
>muh benchmarks
I give you neo /g/
>>52582994
There are also 10K and 15K RPM drives. SSD's are still faster.
>>52582962
I specifically singled out 5400 rpm drives as a massive improvement
But there's also a huge one when comparing it to 7200 rpms ones
Magic of not having a physical head moving back and forth
>>52583016
>muh benchmarks
No, they're not. You fell for the meme.
>>52583029
>You fell for the meme.
You're an idiot. Find a spinning drive that can handle 10% of the random IO that an SSD can.
Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>52582255
SSD over HDD on a laptop is a must. Way more quiet, less battery usage.
>>52582864
>a) and )b
I have a ramdisk set up for things that use heavy IO such as web browser profiles and the like which is must faster than SSDs.
>c)
I'll concede that but not really an issue
>d)
You shouldn't drop your laptop and if you do you have other problems to worry about
>Also, I don't know about you, but I don't keep all the programs I'll ever run open at once
I usually do
>>52583050
>I usually do
All the programs you'll ever probably run?
That's some dedication
>>52583045
Find a desktop that runs random I/O.
I'll wait.
>>52583050
>ramdisk
>using expensive ass ram as a substitute for ssd
>having to reset it up everytime your computer goes off
Hello retard.
>>52583082
>Find a desktop that runs random I/O.
Wow, you were dropped on your head as a baby, weren't you.
But to answer your retarded question, literally anything that multi-threads.
>>52583050
>I have a ramdisk set up for things that use heavy IO such as web browser profiles and the like which is must faster than SSDs.
>250 GB SSD
~100 Buckaroos
>250 GB RAM
lol glhf
>>52583116
>he thinks CPU multithreading is random I/O
I give you neo /g/: doesn't know anything about technology.
>>52583068
How so? I guess if you're playing a variety of video games all day it could be a problem.
>>52583125
>>52583102
>>52583068
Gaymers detected.
>>52582449
> have to learn an entire OS from scratch
So what, you were born with the knowledge to use windows or something?
>>52583150
The software I'd have to keep open
>Visual Studio
>InteliJ IDEA
>Chrome/Firefox/Edge
>Paint.net
>Photoshop Lightroom
>Word, Excel and Powerpoint
>Visio
>Putty
>VNC viewer
>VMWare
>Foobar2000
>cmd.exe (for doing adb shit)
idk anon, seems
>>52583196
Some gayms, yes, but not many and I don't count them as "programs"
>>52583149
>CPU multithreading is random I/O
Individual threads have different data requirements for their workload...
Every input, keystroke, mouse click, everything, all has a data request. Most of that data is cached in L1/2/3. Any time there's a cache miss, the cache has to be flushed and filled.
That said, any time an application is launched, or a new page loaded, there is an IO request for data. Not all of that data lives in RAM.
>>52583224
Oh my fucking god. Please leave and never come back.
>>52582405
Ssds get slower the more you fill them up, especially after the 75% mark
>>52583241
>Oh my fucking god. Please leave and never come back.
Naw, you'd miss me. It's ok, Anon, you know I'm right...
>>52583196
>only games use IO
Say hello to the retard.
>>52583281
>he thinks CPU multithreading is random I/O
Nobody is ever going to miss you. Your absence is a gift to any community.
>>52582271
kekked
>>52583196
hello
What’s up with all these “SSD is a meme” threads these days? I know Reddit has invaded this place but holy shit.
>>52583351
Seagate pays people to shitpost to increase HDD revenue.
Also poorfags and idiots.
>>52583351
SSD is a meme is a meme
>>52582919
this tbqh senpai
>>52583287
I didn't say that. The implication was that only gaymers could be that dumb. You wouldn't store entire applications on a ramdisk, only data that is frequently accessed by those applications.
>Did a new build back in August.
>Decided to try out a SSD
>Shit now boots up in a few seconds vs 45 seconds.
>Applications are faster, not seeing any lag that I would occasionally get.
>Game load times are improved for newer stuff, and helps pop-in with a few games (like Fallout 4).
Fuck, I am considering getting a second SSD just for recent games once I see a good sale on one.
>>52582763
but with windows 7 you have to google how to turn off the advertisements and read up on long guides how to avoid installing windows 10 by accident.
You have to do a lot more research to keep your system functional than you would on linux
>>52583439
>still thinks a ramdisk is a replacement for ssd
You are this retarded.
ssd
mouth fedora
os fedora
linux desktop
mechanical keyboard
>>52582255
OFFICIAL 2016 MEME TIER LISTING
SHILL TIER:
4K HDR TV
8K TV
APPLE PRODUCTS
RETARD TIER:
M.2, PCI BASED SSD
SWITCH KEYBOARDS
ANDROID PHONES
LATE BY 5 YEARS TIER:
SSD
TO STUPID TO DIE TIER:
LINUX
>>52582255
SSDs are great for laptops, but i realized any perceived speed increase in my desktop was most likely a placebo after about a week when the "i spent money so now i have to convince myself i like it" effect wore off
>>52583448
Literally turn off updates at install, that's it. No more win10.
Also what fucking advertisements?
I mean, if you're gonna shit on wangblows (rightfully so) at least do it properly.
>>52583448
Windows 7 doesn't have advertisements, 10 does. You got your memes confused there, buddy. :)
>>52583570
7 advertises for 10. 10 advertises for other stuff.
Who cares anymore.
On linux I can remove something I don't like with a single command, on windows you have to read long guides of how to do simple things and navigate through complicated interfaces where they purposely hide the options they don't need.
>>52583631
>>On linux I can remove something I don't like with a single command
Ok, remove SystemD from this Linux Mint install without breaking anything
also no guides
>>52582255
>this thread again
>>52583644
And changing from mint to arch is not one command either, but everything in userspace is easily changed.
>>52583738
No, I want to use Mint
Now remove SystemD without breaking anything
My Linux machine starts up faster than my graphics driver kicks in. I can actually start typing in my password before my monitor turns on.
I realize having an SSD for Linux is a bit overkill but I was using Windows originally and I noticed a massive improvement in boot times and application launches.
I'd recommend them.
I have a "shit tier" Kingston SSDNow V300 too so it's not like I'm using something terribly expensive.
So what's the best read speed for the price right now?
Or do you look for the fastest cutting edge one there is?
>>52583442
>>Shit now boots up in a few seconds vs 45 seconds.
My XPS 8500 in the other room boots in 17 seconds off a 100MB/s 500GB hard drive. You're doing something wrong.
>>52583738
I wouldn't do this with a single command, but you can just install your replacement, remove systemd, update initramfs, enable the services you had on systemd and then reboot.
I have no way to test this as I don't have mint installed and without looking at any sources I can't get you the exact names of the packages you need.
And as for breaking something?
If you enable everything, it should work.
I don't think the old init systems have a migration tool for systemd
>>52584031
meant to >>52583753
>>52584031
But what about all the components that rely on SystemD?
>>52584066
like what?
the display manager?
>>52583540
This
I installed a SSD in my dad's Thinkpad. Boots are noticeably faster and AOL comes up much quicker.
Bought a SSD for my desktop. Boots actually increased by a second.from my short-stroked, tweaked install. Noticed no difference except for the loading of GIMP and PS, and even that disappeared once I tested them on a new 200MB/s hard drive instead of one from 2006.
SSDs are a meme for desktop use if you have Common Sense 2016 installed. If you're loaded with keyloggers, well, you might want a SSD.
>>52584114
>AOL
uh
>>52584133
All his bookmarks are in there and he can get to his email in one click. It's utter shit for browsing, especially since it doesn't have an ad blocker, but if it works for him, it works for him.
>>52583212
Haven't you ever heard of the Microsoft gene?
>>52584277
>he isn't woz-poz
lmao
>>52583631
>>52583570
Advertisement in Windows 10? What?
>>52582255
Still wondering how much these shills get paid to shitpost about ssds and by who
>>52584324
