Why people are so cuck...
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-steam-survey/
>>52440094
Damn, I was enjoying watching fags fall for the AMD meme
>>52440094
Pcmustardrace is retarded.
>>52440094
this is a good thing. it means when the next gen hits i'll be able to get one for peanuts.
>>52440094
Because people can't see past marketing.
For the technological retarded consumer, the 970 is more than they'll need, and Nvidia knows this. The card can be as gimped as they want, it will still do just barely well enough in the current games. When it starts shitting itself, the retarded consumer will just buy another one.
Rinse and repeat. The non-gimped 970 would be too good. It wouldn't be good for selling cards at the end of this year. It would be too good at performance per dollar, and the 980 and 980ti wouldn't be as interesting for those who want a bit more, since the 970 was such a great pick at that price point.
I can't blame the people that bought a 970 at launch. For the specs and price, it was amazing. Then the 390 launched for the same price and with better specs, and it came down to brand preference. Then the whole fiasco happened, and there was just no reason to buy a 970 anymore. But once again, marketing is all the majority ever listens to. By the time this broke out, it was already too late, all the benchmarks and hands on reviews were already out, the amazing marketing for the 970 was already done. It's easy to find content in review websites praising the 970 as the new world wonder, which it seemed to be at launch, but obviously isn't now.
Nvidia played their cards well, and they will surely continue to play them like this for as long as they dominate the market. Don't get me wrong, AMD is also shit in many situations, I'm not shilling for anyone. But one thing is being incompetent in some areas (AMD), the other thing is just intentionally fucking over the consumer like Nvidia does.
>inb4 nvidia fanggots
Come at me, you know this to be true.
>>52440298
I got my timelines wrong. The fiasco happened before the 390 launched.
Still doesn't invalidate my point though, after the whole fiasco came public, there was already a new AMD series ready to launch and everyone knew about it.
>>52440094
>tfw GTX 960 refurb from EVGA for $160
I would have gone red if I could have afforded $250
>>52440298
what fiasco, 3.5+.5? does it even matter if it doesn't affect performance?
>>52440469
It wasn't just memory. It also had less ROPs and less L2 cache, which effectively affects the performance.
The memory doesn't affect it immediately, only after the 0.5 starts being used. They can patch around that, but one has to wonder how long they will keep patching newly released games when the 970 isn't part of their flagships anymore. It will most likely take a lot longer to patch these games. Besides, we all know that while 3.5GB is enough for 1080p now, in the future it will likely be much easier to hit that threshold, so it will effectively affect performance.
This "it doesn't affect performance" is disinfo, always has been.
>>52440542
well like you said, it would be a more expensive part if now for those flaws. hotter and more power hungry too. instead of obsessing over the hypothetical just see if the 970 as it is warrants the price tag. it seems to fall in line with everything else so i don't think there's a problem.
>>52440621
The alternatives are generally cheaper and have better performance.
At this point, the 970 is getting closer and closer to the 380x than the 390. It's no longer direct competition to the 390, hasn't been for a while now. And they cost roughly the same, in some cases the 390 is even cheaper.
The 970 is a gimped card and always will be. No amounts of backpedaling and conforming are enough to justify getting one.
>>52441027
Nvidia owners don't care though. They'll just buy the next Nvidia card when it comes around to get an upgrade. Nvidia have successfully created the same sort of customer base as Apple have, who'd never consider a competitor and are happy to take it in the ass to own the brand.
>>52440298
>>52440326
Thanks for your story, Anon. I actually never knew what the 970 fiasco was, but after reading your two posts and confirming it with le Wikipedia, I have a clearer understanding.
.....be my boyfriend?
>>52441114
Only if you have a girl dick
>>52441181
Oh well, thought I'd ask anyways.
even Nvidia users know its garbage
>>52440094
I'm still using a intel GMA X4500MHD
if (gpu_string = "GTX 970") {
max_vmem=3500;
fx_quality=low;
call_user_a_cuck=true;
}
>>52441110
actually amd created them by constantly fucking up. i used to buy amd cards and recommend them to people and had to stop after getting burnt too many times.
>>52441404
Smiled out loud
Orderd a GTX970 yesterday.
>I regret NOTHING!
>>52440298
i really wish amd could make linux drivers
>>52440298
I bought a 970 because I got it for like $240 and I've yet to hit 3.5 at 1080p and 900p windowed.
In fact the only game that I wish I had a better card for is The Witcher 3 so I could use hairworks, but apparently you need a Titan-X for 60fps with Hairworks.
Also AMD has shit drivers.
I've never owned a card that wasn't a flagship
who the fuck cares lmao
I use a GTX 950
Although I believe it would be really stupid to buy one now unless you got the same kinda deal I did. $120, then $135 after tax and shipping. They're all $160 now.
>>52440469
>does it even matter if it doesn't affect performance?
Holy shit, do you cucks listen to yourselves? Don't you care at all about the fact that Nvidia consciously cheated their customers? That they sold a gimped product claiming higher specs to squeeze every tiny bit of money out of their customers, already knowing that they would not give a fuck anyway?
When we allow hardware manufacturers to get away with this, we set precedents for more and more cuckery. What do you think, when will the new Intel 4GHz (but it's actually 3) CPU be released? What about your new 16GB RAM stick (but 4GB of it are flash memory, who needs 16GB of memory anyway, right)? These companies need to be shown that you get punished if you fuck up. That if your product does not have the specs you promised because of a conscious engineering decision, nobody will ever buy your shit ever again, you lying fuck.
Even Nvidiots should be smart enough to understand this. And yet >lmao it doesnt affect me cuz i only play dota. Great for you, faggot, I hope you'll enjoy paying full price for Nvidia's next gimped line-up. I'm sure you can't wait.
>>52441771
This. If you buy it knowing "3.5", and you get it at reduced cost, how the fuck is this an issue? I don't give two shits what other card it was originally held up against performance wise, we all know the truth now and the fact is, the 970 is still a decent card.You can argue the same about every gpu on the market that doesn't out-perform whatever gpu you choose to shill.
>>52442021
And once they understand this, if we can teach the same principal to all Windows users, oh man what a world we could live in.
>>52442021
>Don't you care at all about the fact that Nvidia consciously cheated their customers?
Those people stupid enough to pay full price because of hype are always going to exist. Apple makes billions off this tactic. It's shitty, I know, but when prices came down, the performance to cost was acceptable.
>>52441771
See anon, that's fine. $240 is a good price for the 970. I don't mind people getting 970s if they get a good deal on them and they're massively cheaper than a 390.
On the other hand, if you bought a 970 at the same pricepoint as a 390, knowing all of the story, I'd consider you clinically retarded.
Because it's a great card and shits on its non-existent competition?
Even at 3.5gb VRAM it's superior
>>52442176
I hope this is bait.
If not, off yourself
>>52442176
This
>>52442197
Can you elaborate?
muh gaming
>>52441932
>tfw the gtx 950 is at $220 here
I fucking hate this shitty country.
I don't know what card to get that would be similar or barely worse than the 950 and cheaper.
>>52442470
Oh, I don't know. A 370?
>>52442176
>>52442356
The "non-existent" competition is the 390, and beats it at pretty much every game. In the most recent Gameworks game, Tom Clancy Ranbow Six Siege, which is supposed to be optimized for Nvidia cards, the 970 loses to the 390 at 1080p. The difference is even bigger at bigger resolutions.
Pretty much every game that isn't Gameworks, the 390 beats the 970. They're both in the same pricepoint, save for some ridiculous rebates or discounts you might occasionally find, that also happen for the 390 every now and then.
How's that for "non-existent competition"?
>>52440094
knowing true and well about its downfalls, id buy one if i was into gaming because of how much it destroys the competition at 1080p.
>>52442598
It's at the same price for some weird reason.
>>52442681
Wow, that's fucked up. Where do you live?
Why not? It's a great card and not near as expensive as the 980 ti. It's the one I am going to get once i find a home and get my shit out of storage
>>52440094
who the hell is that ugly-ass sheboon?
>>52442695
Chile.
>>52441932
rick?
>>52442735
Yeah, it's me. Who are you?
>>52442704
>>52442678
>Uninformed consumers being dumb
There are people in a tech board that don't actually know what the fuck they're talking about, but still feel like sharing their useless thoughts.
Do your own research faggots, I won't even bother. But for the love of God, stop posting, preferably now.
>>52442829
the difference is one of those guys does know about the memory issue, and one doesn't.
>>52442851
Except he says it destroys the competition. It really doesn't. It doesn't even win, much less destroy.
That's not being informed, not even close. He might be retarded, he might be baiting, but it's just not true.
>>52442731
:^(
>>52442663
but your 390 competition is a old 290 overclocked vs a stock 970...
>>52442949
So you're saying the old 290 overclocked is beating the 970! Hot Diggity Dog!!!
i am a winrar
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Asus-STRIX-GTX-970-DirectCU-II-Overclocked-4GB-GDDR5-PCI-E-3-0-DVI-HDMI-Display-/272098586962?hash=item3f5a56f152:g:k4EAAOSwZG9Wjzga
>>52442949
>single game benchmarks
Okay kid
Besides, GTA5 is one of those games where there's a good chance where you will run into the 3.5GB threshold. Nice pick.
>AMD has to cheat using "series" to even be on the chart
lol
>>52442356
>>52442176
>>52442949
>>52443723
>card released 27 months ago is more competitive than one released 16 months ago at the same price point
:^)
>>52443784
Heres the funny thing, when DX12 games comes out expect to see AMDs old cards at the same frame rates, because they can Async and Nvidia cards cant! el oh fucking el !
>>52442021
>AMD is on Suicide watch
Intel and nVidia are monopolys by 2020.
Only Zen can save you now.
>>52443917
You're a fucking retard. You don't even know how to use a meme.
>>52443911
muh muh muh monster dick ick ick
>>52441771
I bought a 970 for about $400 (Canadian, feels bad man) because I was in the market right around when the AMD 300-series GPUs came out, so I waited until about 2 weeks after launch when Nvidia prices dropped to compete. At the time (before the dx12 fiasco) the consensus was 970 ~= 390, buy whichever is cheaper, and the 390 was about $60 more. As a bonus I got all the Batman Arkham games with it for free.
>>52440094
because nvidia provides a better experience making the lesser hardware worth it. You get what you pay for, AMD just put more money in the hardware than the user experience.
>>52440094
i bought a GTX 980 and had no regrets
>>52443927
>4chan
>retard
>meme
Oke son.
>>52443927
>>52441771
>AMD has shit drivers
Average goy here.
Why does AMD video cards have shit drivers? I'm new to stuff like this.
>>52444120
It had shitty drivers. It's just a meme at this point.
AMD drivers were pretty hit or miss back then. You would have to shift through drivers when you bought an AMD card to see which one worked best with your card. There was no set driver for each card, it was pretty random.´
That's no longer the case. You might be able to get a couple more FPS on a certain game with a certain driver now, but generally speaking, the latest driver will work best and give you best performance. The most recent driver had a bug when you had MSI Afterburner installed alongside it, where it locked down the fan speed to like 15 or 20%, which caused some cards to bluescreen a PC by reaching the speed cap, thus reviving the old shit drivers meme.
In reality, the worst that happened was a couple bluescreens and cards throttling. There are reports of cards dying because of it, but all of them could be caused by something else besides the driver. The card is supposed to protect itself by throttling or shutting down when it gets to temperatures that high, so it's not like it could kill itself.
That's about it, at least for recent events. On the other hand, Nvidia updates their drivers every week to patch up their gimped cards, and the past couple years, every single Nvidia card owner I know complains about the driver crashing at least once every other day. No one talks about that, though. Go figure.
>>52444170
>every single Nvidia card owner I know complains about the driver crashing
>No one talks about that, though
Um, how can both of those statements be true?
>>52443723
>>52444170
So there are multiple drivers you can get for your video card?
Are these all made by their respective companies or are there any open source/ individually developed drivers?
>>52444243
Different person here. Just different versions of the drivers. They come out pretty often. Whenever a big new game comes out they release new drivers to optimize the card for that game.
>>52440094
Because you don't need more than 2GB video RAM for 1080p anyway.
>>52440094
Because it cheap, good OC, low power, fast and work with linux. Most people don't give a fuck about muh - 512mb /g/ meme
>>52442787
It's me ur brother.
>>52443917
>monopolies are a good thing
Surely even Nvidcucks can't be this delusional, right? You understand it's in your best interest that AMD stays competitive, that is to be expected from anyone with a brain.
>>52444211
No one talks about that here. The driver meme for AMD has been going on for years now, while Nvidia drivers are much worse right now.
Every time someone's defending Nvidia while calling AMD drivers being shitty, I chuckle a bit inside.
>>52444243
A driver is just software to support the card. You install it like a normal program. Drivers are supposed to fix problems and help the operative system interface with the card. It enables a range of different settings that cards support, but only when their software is there to tell the operative system how to work it.
Of course, as with all software, newer doesn't always mean better, and new drivers can ruin old features or make the experience worse. AMD had beta drivers which usually are more unstable than the stable release, that much is obvious. You can expect things not to be perfect when using these.
Nvidia, on the other hand, has no beta drivers, at least not publicly available. The most recent driver is their beta. That means, if you update on release, you are pretty much testing them. There's been multiple occasions where Nvidia drivers have fried GPUs or even laptop screens. It has happened more than once, and pretty recently too. Those threads are usually populated with a lot of people posting "AMD has shitter drivers lol" with no basis, and end up dying fairly quickly due to all the shitposting. Nvidiafags conveniently quickly forget about that happening.
>>52440298
This happened last year and still you can't get your facts straight. Fuck you redditor, no upvotes today.
3.5 happened long before 390.
390 is a fucking 290 anyway, fucking literally. 290x is a better card anyway and was available for much lower than the 390 during the price cut period.
So what's the point of your post? Third hand information, poor information at that. Why the fuck did you write this when it's clear you have no idea what you're saying?
>>52444001
>user experience
Purposefully sabotaging a game's performance, because you know that your competitor's framerates will suffer from it even more than you will (also known as 'Goyimworks') hardly qualifies as user experience
>>52444269
>>52444319
Thanks Anons.
You made this much easier to understand for me.
>>52444352
Literally 2 minutes later >>52440326
You discredited an entire post because the timeline was wrong, when the guy corrected himself right after.
Even though he was right about everything else.
Fuck outta here.
>>52444305
I know Mom sucked you off last week, I have proof and I'm gonna tell Dad unless you let me touch your balls.
>>52444374
Funny you should say that because in that very post he says something else which is completely wrong:
>after the whole fiasco came public, there was already a new AMD series ready to launch and everyone knew about it.
AMD had nothing ready for the longest time to the point where it became a meme.
Then when they finally did come out with the 390, it was just a rebrand with a batch of drivers that gave it an artificial advantage over the 290. When they released the improvements made in those drivers for the 290 and 290x, the gap closed, but most drones didn't notice. They kept screaming about 8 gigs as if they matter, kept posting idiotic mainstream benchmarks that don't compare cards at same clocks and kept insisting the 390 has higher overclocking headroom which was just plain not true. Most vendors simply came out with better coolers, which a model like the Tri-X 290 already was, whereas Gigabyte and MSI's (excluding Lightning) solutions were kind of crap.
This guy's posts are almost uncanny valley, like an alien trying to infiltrate /g/ or something. Says shit that sort of sounds true but then misses all the crucial details.
>>52440094
>tfw have a friend who bought three
>one of which was after 3,5 was revealed
>>52440094
>5%
misleading shit clickbait title for a misleading shit clickbait thread
kill yourself OP you're a fucking faggot
cuck is not an adjective
Please delete the thread and repost it in proper English.
>>52444577
It is now you fucking cuck
Kids will use it like "fuck", and its all 4chans fault
>>52444600
>It is now you fucking cuck
You forgot a comma.
>>52444600
"Fuck" is not an adjective either.
"Fucked" is.
Should I buy an R9 Fury?
>>52443784
I played GTAV on pretty much maxed settings and never hit >3.5
tfw still using a 660
hbm2 cards need to come out sooner ffs
>>52444726
Only if it's a Nano. That's now the best value of all of them after the price cut. Full Fiji, overclocks to Fury X speeds and beyond even on air, consumes less power due to premium low leakage chips.
>>52444367
you're also forgetting geforce experience. amd doesn't even have anything like shadowplay
Excuse me, cooooming through
>>52444772
>Zotac
>>52444811
>he doesn't know about the Zotac 980 ti amp extreme edition
>>52444243
gtx 480
6 years old
update nvidia every week
never once a broken driver.
continue to take throughly optimized and update updates, for ever my old ass cards to this date.
>amd fag mad they dont get 0day support for new games.and suffer with poor performance for a month till amd releases a new driver, which then is old already
I bought my 970 before the 3.5 issue was known and it was the best option at the time.
I don't regret it because nobody knew about it at the time, and everyone was upset over "coil whine" which I never had so whatever.
>>52444811
>XD LMFO
>>52444853
>he bought the Zotac 980 ti amp extreme edition
>>52444893
>he bought the best graphics card in the world second only to the superclocked titan x
Yeah I did
>>52444756
>amd doesn't even have anything like shadowplay
AMD has a recorder see link. I have been using it. Also seriously? thats your fucking argument shadow play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGgouiu0LbI
>>52444911
>he literally believes this
>>52444960
Don't tell me you actually believe a AMD card is one of the best options.
>>52444859
>0day support
more like 0day exploits amirite xD
>>52444960
Actually I know it, look at the benchmarks jackass
>1253 base clock
>1355 boost clock
That is before overclocking of course
>>52440298
>But once again, marketing is all the majority ever listens to.
You must have evidence to support this theory, such as interview and questionnaire before and post 3.5 scandal, asking 970 buyers their motivation of purchase, otherwise you are merely speculating and is not fact at all
>>52445059
never had a problem. currently running 2 7950's with crimsom(beta edition) 0 problems
>>52444954
my argument was geforce experience as a whole. amd has only recently had anything comparable
>>52445094
Just look at this thread. People are claiming they'll buy the 970 in this very thread. When the 390 is a clearly better option. When the 970 is gimped. When a new generation is already on the horizon.
The reason is almost always fanboyism or memes like "drivers" and "power efficiency".
The only valid reason to buy an Nvidia card that is not the 980ti (the only one that's actually better than the AMD counter part) is if you exclusively use Linux. But even then, if you use Linux exclusively, you shouldn't be caring that much for computer games and enthusiastic level GPUs in the first place. It is a valid reason though.
>>52445104
So what except the recording function does geforce experience offer? Its bloatware, just like AMDs raptr. Wait no, you need it for beta driver access now...
Shadowplay and AMDs GameDVR (does the same as shadowplay) also got obsolete once OBS published a branch that includes NVENC and VCE (and quicksync) support...
My 960 has been doing me wonders for what I do. Good price too.
>>52445168 <-THISSSSS
THIS, FUCKING THIS RIGHT HERE!
>>52444811
I would have agreed with you, but Zotac has the best <200mm (small form factor) offerings this generation. Also as far as I'm aware, they don't prebin their GPUs like the "extreme" manufacturers do.
I've been really happy with my zotac 970 so far.
>>52445168
Well, the 960 and especially 950 are really nice for ITX builds, the latter even for a quite competitive price considering its performance. The 980 is also a nice card if you're in that price range... Don't delude yourself, nvidias line up is very competitive to say the least, even from an objective standpoint. So is AMDs, especially with the 380 and 390.
Most people buy brands, and most "gamers" buy pre build shit, that's why the market distribution looks like it currently does. People even reading reviews are a minority.
>>52445259
This. I bought a 970 for my ITX toaster and it's insanely low temp. 35c idle and 55c load. If I had gone with AMD i'd acoustically and thermally have a small jet engine under my desk instead of a computer.
1 year later and no regrats
>>52445201
game optimization
>>52445296
>>52445259
But ITX builds are pretty much a meme. When you want a good performing card, you generally don't care about size, noise or temps, granted they're within acceptable levels.
Yes, AMD cards are slightly more noisy and hot than Nvidia cards. That difference is minimal if you have good coolers, such as Sapphire, the new MSI on the 300s, and PCS+.
For the average gamer that just wants good performance, none of those are good selling points, or at least shouldn't be.
It does make sense going Nvidia on ITX, don't get me wrong. It's just a gimmick that most people don't care for.
>>52445296
Nah, there are really good Hawaii cards. The HIS IceQ X2 is the most silent one, at the price of a lower power target which will let it throttle a bit in some situations though. So the cooler of the cards isn't the problem, with an ITX build it is moving the heat out of your case.
An other mistake by AMD, using the blower shit for the Hawaii release ruined the chips image...
>>52440248
this, im poor as shit. Fuck spending all my cash on a 280 or some shit, Im just gonna pickup a super cheap 970 from all the tardos next gen. Hell, maybe even two.
>>52445319
>game optimization
lmao. AMDs raprt does the same. I used both, and both suck. If you're to retarded to know what the 5 settings in your games do you should go back to your gameboy.
>>52445350
>AMD cards are slightly more noisy and hot than Nvidia cards.
Thats complete bullshit. It doesn't depend on brand (neither Nvidia/AMD nor the board partners), it depends entirely on the used cooler. The Sapphire Fury is the most silent aircooled high end card, despite sucking up more power than most 980Tis. There are enough other examples like this...
>>52445415
I like AMD more than Nvidia, but AMD cards are slightly hotter than Nvidia, there's no going around that. It's not like the difference is significant or impacts anything, it's just fact.
But like I specifically said, it depends on the cooler more than anything. Yes, the Fury's are much cooler than 300 series, but the 300s and 200s are hotter than the Nvidia's 900 or 700's. The difference on average should be around 5-10 ºC, at most, unless you have really shitty coolers like Asus.
Honestly, AMD gets pretty bad rep in terms of temps, but it's just fine. It's not too hot or ridiculously low, it's at a good point, and they get too much flak out of something they're not doing wrong.
>>52445104
>my argument was geforce experience as a whole. "amd has only recently had anything comparable"
And my argument was AMD has it when means your argument is invalid so why both to state some thing thats invalid? ORRRR did you just research the fact that AMD has a recorder...yes yes I think you did cause it seems that you're talking about stuff you dident know existed.
>>52445350
Sure it does, if you have a good case. What doesn't make sense is full sized ATX cases with 20 empty drive bays, taking up half your desk.
Here's my ITX case, with a full size evo cooler and a 970. *Squee* its so cute and functional.
Sure ATX cases have their place, but that's mostly for servers and workstations. ITX is the gaming form factor of the future.
Would I be better off waiting until a new generation of cards to upgrade or get a second 770 now? It handles 1080p great but now I play at 1440p and it struggles on certain games.
>>52445570
forgot pic
I buy Nvidia because I know the drivers will be out on day one.
>>52445517
An HIS R9 290 X2 or a sapphire R9 390 Nitro runs cooler than a zotax GTX 780 AMP or a 970 ACX (not the ACX 2 with the fixed cooler). Its retarded to claim that "AMD cards run hotter/louder", simply because this is solely determined by the cooler you use. Chip size and power consumption obviously influence it, but the difference between the used coolers is so enormous that this isn't a significant factor for the last few generations.
Also comparing company's, not products, is just as retarded. AMD and Nvidia offered a shit ton of chips, you can't judge all of them at once. What was more efficient, Fermi or VLIW4/5?
>>52445415
FACT: AMD chips have higher TDP for each performance bracket.
Even if you have a 100% efficient cooler, that heat doesn't just disappear. It increases the room's temperature. If you already have a hot summer, the last thing you want is a space heater graphics card.
>>52445570
>970
kek
>>52445625
Worth nothing. Games of bad developers (like the latest CoD, AC and batman shenanigans) will suck at launch on every card, and games of competent devs have the necessary adjustments in the driver weeks/months before release, examples are the witches 3 and star wars battlefront.
>>52445638
GTX TITAN Z TDP: 375W
R9 290 X2 TDP: 580W
That feeling youre experiencing is rage and sorrow as your frenetically constructed lies crumble around you.
>>52445625
Only if you give up your personal information to them
Besides that nvidia utterly hates freedom and tries to be apple as much as possible
>>52445706
>he thinks TDP is power consumption
I want /v/ to leave.
>>52445570
I'd rather have DTX over ITX. I need that extra PCIe slot.
>>52445625
>playing brand new games at launch
good goy
>>52445659
>AMD chips have higher TDP for each performance bracket.
RV790/GF100. See why it's retarded to compare based on company and not on product?
>Even if you have a 100% efficient cooler
You don't, that's the point. Look at charts of all the different GTX 970/390/980Ti/whatever cards
With minor differences in clock speed and voltage different models have huge differences in noise and/or temperature. The cooler is way more important than die size and/or power consumption.
>It increases the room's temperature. If you already have a hot summer, the last thing you want is a space heater graphics card.
That's ridiculous. Do you life in the small room under the chair like Harry potter or what? Your own body puts out like 200-300W in heat while you're just sitting there. The most shitty space heaters come with like 3kW. And you say that measly 50W more of your GPU are going to make a noticeable difference in room temperature?
>>52445741
>oh no my lies are failing, I know I'll strawman!
>>52444319
these are the same AMD drivers that shut off the fans and destroyed people's cards recently, right?
>>52445755
Never heard of that form factor. Sounds nice, but newegg has no DTX motherboards listed.
>>52445820
that was a very small number of people
and it just locked the fans to 20% if the user was using overdrive specifically in the new Crimson stuff.
>>52445804
That's not a strawman, TDP and power consumption are not related. The 295 XE won't go over 450W, and its TDP are 500, not 580W.
>>52445820
Did you read the entire post?
GPUs are made to throttle after a certain temperature to prevent damage. Even if they do for some reason hit a temperature they shouldn't, they'll instantly shut off to prevent damage.
There is no way a card can kill itself because of temperature, unless it was already about to die due to something else.
>>52445820
It didn't destroy cards, we have temperature sensors and throttle mechanisms since years...
>>52445854
>b-b-but that was only a few thousand p-p-people!
AMD fans' suicide watch escalated to suicide threat. All sharps removed from area. Restraints en route.
>>52445854
ah ok, thanks anon for clearing that up.
>>52445874
>Oh no, he called out my strawman. I know, I'll double down!
>>52445874
>The 295 XE
Moving the goalposts: the post.
>>52445955
He just got the name of the card wrong, that guy was obviously comparing the GK 110 and Hawaii double GPU cards. Would make even less sense otherwise.
I bought a 970 because it seemed like a good balance between what I wanted to do using CUDA and could run modern games decently.
Is there a better card out there for both CUDA and shit that a graphics card does?
>>52445888
???
>>52446054
The only better single card solution than a 970 currently is the 980.
You can get AMD but they're very inefficient and hot for the same compute power.
>>52440248
When nvidia stops bothering to optimise the memory management the 970 will be worthless. Even the 780ti a card with no technical issues was basically discarded by nvidia.
>>52446067
It's okay, you've had a rage induced brain aneurysm. Buy nvidia for soothing relief.
>>52446094
Lies the 970 has good single precision performance, but a 390 decimates it on double.
>>52446096
Bullshit. It would be a trivial matter to disable the 0.5 GB of problem memory via driver.
>>52446176
>It would be a trivial matter to disable the 0.5 GB of problem memory via driver.
At the point they do that they can't claim that its a 4GB card any more.
>>52445168
>Just look at this thread
You expect a thread on a board of an internet image-board to represent the entire consumer base of GPU, let along they are all anonymous?
Don't be a joke
>>52446167
>m-m-muh double precision.
Have fun with your space heater, AMD fag.
>>52446198
Literally no one cares except butt ravished AMD fags.
>>52446094
>You can get AMD but they're very inefficient and hot for the same compute power.
This isn't true at all... Nvidia underrates their cards TDP and AMD overrates theirs. You can find a lot of benchmarks showing less than a 10% difference in power usage.
>>52446232
AMD fanatics resorting to lies again. You guys are like a cult.
Things amd can't win in:
Price
Performance
Power Consumption
Optimization
Drivers
Features
AMD's only weapon is FUD about the future.
>>52445804
>>52445888
>>52445911
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>>52446269
60 rupies have been deposited to your account, keep up the good work priyanka
>>52446176
>I want to be cucked even more
So why not just buy a 390 then. Not gimped, same price, same performance, sure it runs hotter, but even here in Australia its not that bad.
>>52446269
>Price
AMD cards tend to be cheaper unless the Nvidia card is extremely gimped so they always put it on sale (le 970 faec)
>Performance
Nvidia wins at the 980ti tier. Everything else, AMD beats Nvidia, performance-wise.
>Power Consumption
Hardly matters when you're paying over 200$ for a card. The power bill difference is less than 5$ a year. This is a meme.
>Optimization
Of what, exactly? The card? If so, that's a bad thing. If Nvidia's card is already as optimized as it can be at launch, it sucks. On the other hand, AMD can get a little extra juice out of their cards even after years of being on the market, and they always surpass their Nvidia counterpart heavily in the long run, while being competitive at launch. How is this good for Nvidia?
>Drivers
Debatable. Nvidia drivers in the past couple years have been really shitty, with BSODs and crashes everywhere, and patches every week to patch up their mess. AMD stable drivers have been good for about 2 or 3 years now, only beta have issues, which is normal.
>Features
Like what? Gameworks? Anti-competitive and anti-consumer shit is now features. Okay kid.
>>52446342
>sure it runs hotter
Not if you get a good cooler.
>tfw pic related is real
>So many people have been cucked by Nvidia, yet they keep defending that shit
>>52446204
The poster wants a compute card. Depending on their work load they should consider amd. If you really need cuda get nvidia. If you can afford it you would get a Tesla or the amd equivalent. For a relatively inexpensive cards the 390 offers good performance in double precision. If you need CUDA get a 980/ti.
If I was starting a project that could make use of gpu acceleration I would consider cuda alternates like magma or arrayfire. Opencl is more portable and some of the libraries can share with the cpu automatically.
>>52446387
But the graphics core does put out more heat. A better cooler dissipates it more efficiently yes.
>>52446094
the 980, after the 970 launch was a little bit overpriced
>>52446409
The industry standard is cuda. opencl is shit.
>>52442470
m8 you don't even know what suffering is until you come to Argentina.
950 is about $350.
970 is $680
980ti is $1300
At least we're white
>>52446467
AMD FAGS BTFO
AMD hates freedom
AMD is incompetent (and uncooperative) #amdbastards
AMD seemed like it was on the right track in 2011 when it started cooperating with and releasing source code for several critical components to the coreboot project. It was not to be. For so-called economic reasons, they decided that it was not worth the time to invest in the coreboot project anymore.
For a company to go from being so good, to so bad, in just 3 years, shows that something is seriously wrong with AMD. Like Intel, they do not deserve your money.
Given the current state of Intel hardware with the Management Engine, it is our opinion that all performant x86 hardware newer than the AMD Family 15h CPUs (on AMD's side) or anything post-2009 on Intel's side is defective by design and cannot safely be used to store, transmit, or process sensitive data. Sensitive data is any data in which a data breach would cause significant economic harm to the entity which created or was responsible for storing said data, so this would include banks, credit card companies, or retailers (customer account records), in addition to the "usual" engineering and software development firms. This also affects whistleblowers, or anyone who needs actual privacy and security.
>>52441771
>play witcher 3 on max settings AND hairworks on a fury x
good goy, getting cucked by your own gpu company
buy a non-shit card next time
oh my god literally no one cares you fucking virgins
>>>/v/
>>52446552
about coreboot, the company amd hired to develop it for their platform was closed and development was slowed down significantly.
>>52446658
>thread about graphics cards belonging on /v/
try again newfriend
>>52446633
>supporting gameworks titles
You're the cuck buying cucked games and giving your cuck funds to develop more cuck games
>>52446467
Not really, Open CL is in a lot more software and as soon as adobe stops sucking nvidia's dick and adopts it better into premier nvidia is fucked due to the much lower price of firepro cards
>>52446392
And how am I to know that this is running on a 970 and not a 290?
