Why Privacy is such expensive in 2016?
>Buy a VPN
50€/Year
>Buy a Mail
50€/Year
>Buy a Cloud Storage
50€/Year
>>52348478
Neowin routinely offers lifetime VPNs for that price
Wat, host your own and buy a domain name for $2/month
Goes with hosting your own email, be your own cloud storage provider.
2/10 apply yourself.
>>52348478
Just get a VPS and set everything up yourself.
>>52348535
>>52348564
You need multiple VPS for that or just a dedicated also a dedicated cost like 30€/Month too expensive for a poorfag
>>52348663
One would suffice.
>>52348663
No, You're just not applying yourself. Again, Neowin offers firesales on various VPN services.
Buy a used server for like $100, buy a domain for less than a decent pizza a year, and buy as much storage as you want for $80/TB. Make 2-3 VM's on your server, one for OwnCloud (storage) one for something like postfix for email.
>>52348478
>Cloud storage
Just buy an external hard drive and store your stuff there. You could buy one per year for that price
>50 per year
>per year
>expensive
Also:
>cloud storage
>privacy
kill yourself
>>52348478
>Cloud storage
>paying others to handle your data
literally spend like $300 on a NAS server and buy a cheap domain name. Costs less than $5/yr
>>52349725
You get privacy with cloud and email if you self host.
>>52349771
>$300
bro, you know you went about $100 over, right?
>>52349803
It was a guess
>>52348564
This.
Get an offshore VPS provider. You can run openVPN on less than 256mb Ram. I have 10 users and the cpu/mem remains low.
>>52349802
won't home email just end up being spammed to shit?
>>52349838
What do you mean by spammed to shit?
>>52349854
spam email
you know the things that MS and Google handle for you
That's why you host your own services, anon.
VPNs only offer the illusion of privacy. "They trust us to not log all traffic. Dumb fucks."
>>52348478
>>Buy a VPN
>50€/Year
ONly if you buy some really premium shit
>>Buy a Mail
>50€/Year
Only the initial cost. You buy a raspberry pi for €20 which can handle a fucking mailserver without any troubles and your own .org domain for 3 years for the remaining €30
>>Buy a Cloud Storage
>50€/Year
For the same price you have a 1TB HDD.
>>52349883
You don't need an email server. It's not as easy as setting up postfix. You need time to config and make sure your mail is delivered.
If you care about your privacy use PGP before you send your emails. No one can read them even if it is stored on a server unless they have the private key of the public key for that msg.
>>52349883
Just setup a spam filter. Security is what you should worry about with self hosted email, not spam.
>>52349908
So encrypting your traffic before transit is just an illusion?
Of course the VPN provider is your Point of failure since they have your stuff
>>52349883
You know, thaat stuff you get from being a stupid shit, or because MS and google are whoring out your searches to spammers.
Use a filter if it concerns you, but by not selling your searches while tied to an account, you vastly cut down on spam.
>>52349923
But i'm not an organization?
>>52349967
what in the fuck does that have to do with anything?
>>52349925
But then I can only email people with PGP
>>52349939
Is there any good guides?
>>52349980
It would be unethical to buy an org domain
>>52349984
Yes. Your messages will end up on Gmail, hotmail anyway whenver they reply to you.
Alright, I know PIA isn't the best, but it's cheap, right?
I just want a VPN for some low-key torrenting (shit that I've been doing already without any protection), AND I want to use it to access TOR without my ISP seeing it. PIA should fit the bill, right?
>>52348478
>privacy
>buying cloud storage
oyy vey
>>52349997
Then don't buy one with .org.
.com
.net
.tits
.ass
.usa
.fuk
>Buy your own server
>Set up openvpn
>set up redmail
>set up owncloud
annnnnd you're done
>>52350000
checked
Guys, something tells me this thread is a massive troll. Tell me HOW THE FUCK does a HOME SERVER make you anonymous if you're still connecting to the internet from THE SAME FUCKING IP?
I'm serious, EXPLAIN ME technically how connecting your pc to a home server and the server to your internet connection will improve your privacy.
>>52350163
>anonymous
>privacy
Youre too dumb. Go read up some more
>>52350163
It doesn't make you anonymous, but lets you control your email up to it being sent out. The NSA can't force you to hand over logs unless they break the door down and take the serve itself.
>>52350224
Are you retarded? Google and the other botnets can still track all your shit whether you're running 17 proxies in your room and 13 in the kitchen, the exit ip is the fucking same.
Or perhaps do you fear your imouto will try to sniff your LAN traffic or something?
>>52348793
lol a vpn on your VPS.. how fucking stupid.
police will just knock on your VPS providers door and ask for your name, and they will gladly give it to them.
also since youre on a vps, that means that youre the only user with that IP connecting to the web.
I'd much rather get a VPN that is hosted by people who know their shit, and have shared servers which makes it harder to nail down to one person, plus they actually have lawyers that can protect you
>>52348663
>>52350266
>I don't know what I am doing, so instead I will complain that it costs a lot of money to buy this, instead of learning how to use it and avoid the problems that might come with it
righto
>>52350266
Why the fuck are you obsessed with a VPS? Get it out of your fucking head.
Buy a VPN, not a VPS.
I said buy a server. Not lease a VPS. BUY an ACTUAL, PHYSICAL FUCKING SERVER.
>>52350224
there are actually people in this thread who are merely talking about privacy and not anonymity?
wtf do you need privacy for? you have your privacy. theres not one person on this planet that will check your browser history.
not one.
>>52350000
Privatoria is even cheaper
https://privatoria.net/terms-of-use/ (not all nodes are allowed for torrenting)
>>52349908
>Not using VPN+Tor to connect to your VPN
pleb
>>52350321
>I don't know what I am doing, so instead I will complain that it costs a lot of money to buy this, instead of learning how to use it and avoid the problems that might come with it
I know that you dont know what you are doing, and i explained with my post why.
my vpn costs 3 eur/month. and it has unmetered 1 gbit servers.
just please, name me ONE VPS/dedicated server that has 1 gbit servers for 3 euro/month.
>>52350323
>I said buy a server. Not lease a VPS. BUY an ACTUAL, PHYSICAL FUCKING SERVER.
.... what.
So i bought a server for lots of money, now what? Go to a foreign country, sneak into a datacenter and put it there and connect to it? what the fuck is your plan
>>52350266
I dont know about you, but I only use my openVPN on VPS for American IP and Netflix.
It offers the same privacy in transit.
Get an offshore VPS, makes it more of a pest to actually 'knock' on the VPS provider. Of course, all American services compromised.
>>52350233
Do emails get sent through non-local entanglement if you send them from your home server or something? doesn't your ISP keep logs of your connections? I don't get it. How is that more privacy-like than using a remote server hosted in some shit hole and conncting to it through an encrypted connection over Tor or the likes?
In the first place, you can use any open source messaging app with client-side encryption and avoid the hassle of hosting a damn home server and still retain the same level of privacy. Email protocol is overrated.
>>52350257
If I cared about my privacy, I would not be using botnet services to begin with.
You can have a REAL WORLD proxy, if you have a normie account with normie searches. You blend in, nothings bad. You only let out the information you want to release.
>>52350382
>just please, name me ONE VPS/dedicated server that has 1 gbit servers for 3 euro/month.
That's the problem. You only see the one usage when it has many.
I bought one of those shitty Cloudatcost servers with a friend. I guess I should probably setup openvpn or something on it.
>>52350332
I'll have you know in any decent university or city, there are skids running around cafes and openwifis sniffing wireless data for the fuck of it.
Encrypting your traffic before it sent out to the VPN prevents that from being sniffed since its garbled up.
>>52350429
>You only see the one usage when it has many.
no i see many usages for VPS, that is why i have 3 VPS myself. But i dont establish a VPN connection to any of them, because that would be fucking retarded.
>>52350461
>I'll have you know in any decent university or city, there are skids running around cafes and openwifis sniffing wireless data for the fuck of it.
I dont go outside
>>52350382
>lots
What? Dude, buy a surplussed server for a hair over $100, buy sub-$75 1TB HDD, and you will have plenty of power to host a VM running Owncloud, and another for Redmail. Buy a domain name for the cost of fast food. Get VPN access from a reputable company. You have lifetime storage, private email, and a VPN, all told for ~$250.
Nowhere does a VPS enter the equation. Ever. What is your obsession with VPS? There isn't some magical connector for connecting a server to the internet. Holy fuck are you out of middle school?
>>52350461
That's why you use a REMOTE server, what's this bull shit about home servers in this thread?
What is good mail server software for a vps
postfix + dovecot is 2 hard
>>52348478
>learning to doing all of these yourself in a weekend
priceless
>>52350517
Email hosting and storage, you know, 2/3's of the OP's complaints?
>>52350517
Im the one saying get an offshore server bro
>>52350511
>all told for ~$250.
>not expensive
>What is your obsession with VPS? There isn't some magical connector for connecting a server to the internet. Holy fuck are you out of middle school?
yes there is, its called LAN. You put it in the circuit of your wall, it then connects to your ISP and they know its you. have fun browsing for kiddieporn on your home connection on your 250$ server. you sure will be secure
>>52348478
>>Buy a VPN
get an ISP that wont bend over for law enforcement agencies (bahnhof if you're in sweden)
>>Buy a Mail
get mail.ru (easy sign up in english, russian company with servers in russia, no need for cellphone to register, will say fuck you to international LEA's
>>Buy a Cloud Storage
buy a flash drive, encrypt it and put it on your key chain (and make a backup of that flash drive and stash somewhere, might even buy 3 while you're at it)
>>52350553
There's no way in hell you'll find those services for less than 50$ a year, the cheapest VPN from the worst providers cost like 5$ a month. OP is bitching about the impossible, there's literally no way to increase your privacy for free or without relying on thir party servies.
He should give up on the email option to begin with and look into messaging software that supports client-side encryption, as I said email protocol is overrated. The storage is also another thing he should just forget, the cheapest service I ever found in my life was an overly-saturated ISP who offered 3TB storage for 20$ a month and it was shit.
>>52350669 (cont)
>3TB storage for 20$
It was dedicated of course, with full root access.
>>52350578
>LAN connector
>plug computer straight into wall for internet access
Holy shit. Do you even networking?
Re-read the OP, and my posts. Buy cheap server and domain for email and cloud storage. Pick a VPN provider for browsing for your spoiled milk pastries. These two are not tied.
OP was bitching about about spending 150 Euros a month on an overpriced VPN, email, and cloud storage. I'm showing that OP can have what he wants for much less than he's anticipating.
Come back when you're over 18. maybe tomorrow you'll learn about reading comprehension in school. Don't worry, if your school system isn't total shit, you'll eventually cover basic computer science.
>>52350553
>storage
Literally home server.
Buy a harddrive and if your IP is nice, you have a static IP and now you just need to open up your server to the world
>>52350696
>about about spending 150 Euros a month on an overpriced VPN, email, and cloud storage
it says 50€/year in the OP though.
>>52350519
If you find it too hard, then you don't know enough about mail servers to properly administer one. Back to gmail+GPG with you.
>>52348478
Buy vps $30/year
does all those things
>>52350705
SFTP, or Owncloud if you want a pretty interface.
>>52350718
150 a year for all 3, yes. For a pittance more up front, OP saves money for as long as the hard drive lasts.
>>52350718
150€ a year is cheap as fuck tbqh. Cloud storage is expensive.
>>52350802
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>Use Tor
>$0/Year
>>52350802
>>52350817
Given I'm in the land of burgers, unless Euros are getting a good deal, best I can rough is that he's getting 1TB for a year (at 50 euros). He could get a 1TB NAS HDD for around that. Tacking on email capability requires a functioning machine, so going slightly over his €150 guarantees he can do everything he wants, until hardware dies years down the line.
>>52350986
But many sites block known exit nodes, and it's far slower than using VPN.
>>52348478
If you see on Brian Krebs security site, most cybercriminals use mail.ru and yandex mail email accounts. Most dont get caught for those emails, but for bad opsec. Also, those companies offer 10GB of storage for free with your free account, you dont need mobile phone or shit like that to register. And obviously they dont care about western nations
http://krebsonsecurity.com
>>52350696
>150 Euros a month
I think you should re-read the OP
>>52351142
Just use any old random web proxy after tor, doesn't matter if it leaks data everywhere since you used tor first.
>>52351275
Fair point, but it's still going to be slow.
>>52351275
How do you chain a proxy connection after your TOR connection?
>>52350696
>
Re-read the OP, and my posts. Buy cheap server and domain for email and cloud storage. Pick a VPN provider for browsing for your spoiled milk pastries. These two are not tied.
why would i get cloud storage if i could just buy another harddrive, which is indefinitely more secure and faster and bigger and cheaper?
>>52351311
Just use program like 3proxy
https://www.3proxy.ru/
>>52351361
Their certificate has expired... not even going to bother going to the site.
>>52351378
Your loss. I'm sure they don't care if some faggot doesn't download the program for free.
>>52351006
You mean that OP could try getting a cheap VPN like PIA for 30€ a year and then download his file through it? it's probably cheap and effective but I think he needs an online storage, maybe for sharing with other people or something like that. If he encrypts his files and uses Tor to connect to any free cloud storage (eg. MEGA), tunneling through PIA (or whatever VPN he chooses), he can retain a pretty high grade of anonimity, there's literally no need for any home server or the likes.
>>52349950
>You know, thaat stuff you get from being a stupid shit, or because MS and google are whoring out your searches to spammers.
I love how /g/ always places the blame on people themselves. Your e-mail will eventually end up on many spammer lists through no fault of your own. Even if you only use a specific throwaway spam e-mail to register for things so that the frequent database leaks businesses suffer won't include your e-mail address one of your contacts is bound to get malware or install an app that harvests all their contact info which includes your e-mail.
The only reason you're not getting spam mail is either because that e-mail address is very new. Or because you don't use it for anything. Or there's very few people that contact you by e-mail.
>>52351466
>Use different throwaway email for every company
>If I have to use real name/address for anything, tell them I don't own a computer and they have to do it via the post
>Have no friends
>Literally never received a spam email
>>52350745
lick my balls retard
congrats on knowing how to use outdated arcane softtware I bet your mom thinks you're super smart
Which cloud storage would you guys recommend, except spideroak? Unfortunately, a home server is no option for me... I found tresorit, what do you guys think of it?
>>52351576
Literally mega or Google Drive.
Encrypt your files when you upload.
DOne.
FREE FREE FREE
>>52351576
Yandex Disk
>>52351611
With which program?
>>52351624
7zip is enough
>>52351624
I use PGP symettric
Blowfish for performance
AES256 otherwise
Make sure to use a good passphrase
>>52351622
This, or mail.ru. No phone required and they're based russian services. They probably allow Tor exit nodes to connect as well.
>>52348478
>Cloud storage
>Privacy
Your own NAS will cost 300 €+ forever, depending on the storage size you need.
>>52351920
>Trying to run a file server from a 10 Mbit/s home connection
I'm sure OP needs an online storage solution.
>>52351920
Yeah but it will be obsolete when sata gets replaced
>>52351920
only viable with;
1. a static home IP (usually obtainable for a fee if it's not already static)
2. a fast enough connection to suit your purposes (not always available)
not to mention there may be high-bandwidth things you want to run without putting that load on your home connection (such as seeding)
having LAN-speed access to your server can be beneficial for certain use cases as well, though, not to mention you have quick access to the hardware and can make any hardware changes you like at any time
basically what i'm saying is, a home server is not always a replacement for a VPS, it depends on several factors
>>52352171
like sas and nvme?
>>52352130
i wish i had 10Mb/s upload, i would totally do some file sharing from home if i did
>>52351541
>Postfix and Dovecot are arcane and outdated.
http://www.postfix.org/announcements.html
http://dovecot.org/
>>52350323
>BUY an ACTUAL, PHYSICAL FUCKING SERVER.
Wat.jpg
STFU faggot
>>52350392
Wrong. Look at all the shit Vincent had to put up with recently because his servers were in Germany. US still has the toughest consumer protection laws and you're honestly way better off with a vps here.
>>52348478
>raspberry pi $35
>>52353202
FUCK OFF, IT'S A GOOD IDEA, IT'S YOUR OWN CHILD TO LOOK AFTER, GOD KNOWS YOU'LL NEVER HAVE ONE ANYWAY - YOU CAN'T EVEN LOOK AFTER YOURSELF ANON!
>>52350323
dude man servers are noisy as fuck and power hungry... but a lot of there services can run off a couple 1.21watt raspberry pi's
>>52354517
what do you mean by this?
>>52355323
probably
>>52354517
meant
>>52355295
>>52355410
faggot
>>52355700
thank you
>>52353320
That's Eurocuck though
and to be fair an asshole intentionally made a threat where people were tense about threats from some recent attack
>>52348663
OVH offers VPSes for like 4 dollars a month
Should I set up a photon mail account? Or is there better email service that respects my privacy?
get a rasberry pi they have guides of making vpn out of those things.
>a 14yo kid who's on a break from leddit
>notices this thread on gee
>doesn't give a fuck about OP's requests
>wanna brag about his shitty home-hosted seed box
>tells OP to buy a server for no reason
>tells him to install whatever free software he reads on the gentoo wiki
>still no solution to OP's needs
>spergs when others call he out his bull shit
>shitposts more
3/5 replies in this thread.
>>52360170
No one respects your privacy better than you yourself, so host it yourself.
>>52348478
>>Buy a VPN
>50€/Year
I dont have one, but they are cheaper, I guess
>>Buy a Mail
>50€/Year
i pay 12€ per year for mine
>>Buy a Cloud Storage
no need for it.
>>52352567
>Implying they aren't
There's probably better software available right now.
>>52362156
Better software I'm not sure, as both are widely used, very lightweight, easy to configure (seriously, try configuring sendmail, it'll make you want to hurt yourself) and they're actively developed. Another popular MTA choice is Exim, or Cyrus for IMAP.
>>52362205
Just because something's widely used doesn't mean it's better. Take a look at Macs.
>>52362237
Exactly, which is why I listed numerous advantages, not just both being widely used. I'm also aware that 'better' can be very subjective, which is why I felt the need to list some advantages in the first place. But mind you, both software packages are not 'arcane and outdated' as you claim.
>>52362290
As the other poster claims, I just happened to chip in. Also, easy to configure is also somewhat subjective, because I've set up Postfix+Dovecot and I wouldn't exactly describe it as beginner-friendly.
>>52353320
>US still has the toughest consumer protection laws
What planet do you live on?
Do you mean corporation protection laws or something?
>>52362358
>It's not easy to configure
That has always amazed me, because both run pretty much out of the box. All you typically need to configure is the hostnames, certificates and mailbox format / locations, which is just changing a few lines.
When we're talking to configure Amavis for ClamAV and SpamAssassin, or configuring SPF, DKIM and DMARC, then it gets a little more interesting, but also very doable. But a vanilla postfix and dovecot setup every sysadmin should be able to configure, even for the first time.
>>52349771
Does everyone have lightspeed hardcore anal fiber optics Internet here? cause I don't see why you'd pay for a cloud when you can have PHYSICAL storage that's probably more reliable and transfers data much faster.
Not judging those on clouds, I use Google Drive myself to move stuff around sometimes. On a big scale, I just don't see the point when you have a cheaper alternative.
>>52350266
>police
not everyone is a criminal
I just want my shit safe from the eyes of corporations and the general public
