HSG thread
Any recommendations for a server motherboard (reasonable price hopefully)?
I was thinking about going for one of these xeons
http://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-e5-2670-v1-prices-dropping-now-around-100/
>>52346186
maybe this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-S2600GL4-Xeon-E5-2600-Dual-LGA2011-512Gb-DDR3-Custom-Server-Motherboard-/141667921092?hash=item20fc10ecc4:g:4zAAAOSwKrhVVxab
>>52346186
I have this cpu, I bought a s2600cp4 on ebay for £75 new. Good stuff. One thing to consider when buying a server motherboard, if it is SSI EEB (which the s2600cp4 is) case costs can go high, I bought an enthroo pro full tower for £80 and it covered a lot of the cable management features and I had to remove all the drive cages and optical drive bays, phanteks design regarding the drive cages and optical drives is stupid, unless I got it wrong you have to use the should to properly secure them. Once removed I could get the board in and then I put them back afterwards, price you pay I suppose, just be wary it's a good couple hours of building rather than the usual 30mins.
Other than that bring on the deals! Looking the get another 2670 for dual cpu sexy time.
Using a pure dark rock or whatever, the £25 one, seems to do the job ok.
Hope this helps a bit.
>>52346842
have to use the shroud*
My powerhouse of a home server. I used to run a Minecraft server, but I recently shut it down so I had a bunch of spare parts to create this beast.
It runs WS2012 and virtualizes Ubuntu Server. WS2012 runs my Plex Server and the Ubuntu part runs a small-time FTB server for me and a friend, a Terraria server for other friends, Teamspeak for all my friends, and my mail server. Within the WS2012 install there's also Couchpotato, Sonarr, and Headphones for the Plex Server. Everything is torrented on a seedbox and I just use scp to get it.
I have a GTX 670 in it, and Steam installed on a sub account so I can in-home stream (and even when I'm at school), vidya to my rMBP. It's great for things like Rocket League, Dota 2, and MGSV.
>>52346842
Not sure why you would go dual cpu if there is no need for it.
also
>windows on a server
>>52347451
adobe works real well on linux
fuck off
>>52346092
why are 4TB HDDs still so expensive? fuck, i need more storage.
My home server:
KVM server - Centos 7
Intel® Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v3
64bg ecc Rdimm
2TB nvme
GTX 960 - pcipassthrough to windwows/steam kvm
10gb Mellanox connectx2 fiber nic.
She does... KVM hosting for test builds(currently a Hadoop cluster and aWarewulf cluster both manaaged by Puppet)
File storage, steam game host for nix boxes in the house. leg server. rsync server for auto backup. pxe server. ... Cant think of what else, sure there is more.
>>52347566
no only 4TB but HDDs are still expensive
>>52347566
Buy hard drives in intervals of 3tb... Seems to be cheaper that way.
>>52347604
i need more space than that AND i can't have 3TB in my raid 6
>>52347682
I get that. i still use 2tb disks in my raid5 so its cheap to replace... they fail allot. one every 6months or so. but im logging to them so they never sleep.
Has anybody ordered anything from bargainhardware? (www.bargainhardware.co.uk). I am thinking about ordering the HP Z600 with dual xeons.
>>52347592
HDDs are Expensive, especially when considering the fact some have to run 10,000 RPMs to keep the server efficient, and SSD's are more expensive than many others due to the new technology. If you ask me, blend between the two.
>>52347782
the most expensive are SAS like 15k RPM
>>52347805
Better than NVME costs. my 2tb was a few grand.
>>52346092
any thoughts on ssds for write caching? does it werk? is there a good, standard method for doing this (on linux), without fucking everything up?
thinking about buying more of those seagate 8tb archive disks, but i'm somewhat worried about writes becoming too slow.
>>52347805
Wait, SAS was released with 15K RPM?
Dude, I'm getting hard from this
>>52347848
I have heard of a fer hypervisors doing this for their vms transparently, but never a box that would just ssd-cacha all drive writes. Could use it as a swap however. May help that way.
>>52347865
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-hdd-ssd-harddrive,8238.html
>>52347313
Do you stream over internet to your macbook? How is the latency and everything?
>>52347957
I wouldn't play a game of Dota over WAN, since the latency is a bit too much for near split-second decision making, but I have a 150/150 mb/s connection, and a gigabit connection at my school. I think latency is about ~27ms, which isn't bad at all, especially for games like Rocket League, MGS, or Civ 5.
I have a 13 inch rMBP from early 2014. I love it, but Iris is seriously underpowered for most things; the machine chokes scrolling through large PDFs. So the ability to play games on Ultra is pretty funny.
btw: I use OpenVPN to stream.
>>52348024
>>52347957
I know a screenshot doesn't really show off how well it works (since I converted it to JPG and removed my username), but trust me, it works really well. There is a bit of compression artifacts when there's a lot of movement or things going on, but overall it's a seriously nice treat. Especially since this is nothing more than watching a movie, my laptop's battery lasts pretty long playing games.
I had a fully stocked 48u rack of old dell servers which I spent about a grand on. Gave it away since could not be fucked to move it, would never be sold and simply used to much electricity. Now I just rent some something from OVH when I need it, cheaper than the electricity you'd spend on hosting yourself.
>>52348154
Are those rosewill chassis?
>>52348200
Used to use OVH. moved over to digital ocean for performance. Just mount a google drive for storage.
>>52348207
Yep, R4000s
I have a raspberry pi 2b that I use as a ssh file server, it's connected to a 2tb external hdd. not a bad beginner set-up for around £100
>>52348232
I've been looking at OVH, 1TB is not enough bandwidth, but the 1GB connection (versus 100mbit on OVH) is tempting. Does the SSD make a use difference?
never did a server before. considering using either Ubuntu Server or Centos. does it make any difference for a noob?
>>52348579
use what ever you have experience in.
I personally use debian or ubuntu because I started learning with aptitude.
Does anyone here use Proxmox? I'd like to start messing around with virtualization
>>52348154
What cabinet is that? Looks sexy
Is running a mail server really as dangerous (in terms of getting your shit shoved in by Chinese skiddies) as everyone says?
Time Alive: 42d 21h 11m
Board temperature: 57.362°C
>>52349191
It's a Pro Audio Stash 19" 22u. 32-inch deep with glass door.
http://www.proaudiostash.com
>>52349237
well define getting your shit shoved in
the big risk is that hosting providers, ISPs, and the like are very strict with spammers, so if you slip up and someone manages to use your box to send spam, you'll either get your accounts terminated, or nobody will ever accept mail from you, so the server will be useless.
>>52349490
Did you buy that glass door separately?
>>52349603
http://www.proaudiostash.com/product/penn-elcom-rack-cabinets/penn-elcom-standing-cabinets/penn-elcom-pre-assembled-rack-cabinets/19-server-rack-enclosure-600mm/23-62-wide-glass-door/11198.shtml
Nah, here it is. Their website is a little clumsy.
>>52349637
Thanks for the spoonfeeding, I appreciate it.
Building a small server for Plex, torrenting, and backup. Looking at Mini ITX cases and boards, since currently I've just got an old Corsair Vengance lying around but it's pretty bulky. Can't imagine I'll need a GPU. Mini ITX alright?
>>52349673
No problem brother!
X5675 @ 4.2GHz
24GB ECC
PERC H700
850 Evo 250GB as boot drive
6x assorted 1TB drives for storage
Mellanox 10GbE
>>52349711
Sorry, should specify I have an extra Corsair Vengeance c70 case. Not the RAM.
>>52349711
Plex and torrenting aren't very intensive. Just about any current lower powered processor can handle a couple of 1080p streams.
Mini-itx is fine bud.
>>52349587
I meant more identity theft. Or wouldn't you advise running a personal server from home?
>>52349859
well for a mail server you may not be able to run it from home in the first place, most residential ISPs block outbound traffic on ports used by mail protocols. But no, I can't imagine there'd be much risk of identity theft or anything. Just be careful and read some guides on securing your shit, and the worst that'll happen is it not working.
>>52349711
>>52349764
if you have an ATX midtower case already, you might as well just put an ATX board in it, in my book, ITX won't even save you any space. You'll probably get some more SATA ports in the bargain.
>>52346737
No it doesn't even have ATX power.
>>52349310
Sometimes I regret for going for this.
How can I fix this?
Realistically should I use ECC memory for a home server?
>>52350771
yes
>>52346092
4x 2TB internal
4x 4TB external (RAID 5 for Plex library)
2x Win2012 R2 core DC's
Runs Hyper-V / SQL / Team Foundation Server / Update Services
Plex server: (Not pictured)
Dell Precision T7500
Single Xeon 5660
24GB RAM
4x 250GB WD Blue (RAID 10)
AMD FirePro V5900
DVD / HDDVD / BDROM combo
Win2012 R2 server / Plex
I'm about to invest a sizable chunk of money in my first "real" server (I'll be using it as a fileserver almost exclusively). I've got a handful of devices that I use as servers (pic related, plus 2 QNAP's).
So, here's the question: Pre-Built (Dell, IBM, HP etc.) White-Box (Thinkmate) or build it myself? Any recommendations in particular?
what can i do with a raspberry pie?
can i just hook up a hard drive to it and start seeding torrents?
>>52348154
>>52349490
Holy fuck that looks sexy. I can't find it on their website, but how much would a rack like that cost?
>>52351713
Well you have to install Transmission or some other client first, but basically yes.
I use mine (see >>52351668 ) as a seed box. It took about an hour to setup, although I don't use an HDD with it.
I am getting pretty close to a point where my homeserver is right where I want it.
Just got Plex and qbittorent-nox setup and working correctly.
I just recently figured out that NFS is not, in fact, using all my memory and cache when I transfer large amounts of data to the server. For some reason Cockpit reports that the system is using 14GB of RAM and cache, while htop reports less than 1GB out of 8GB. Seems to be a known problem.
>>52348232
I used Digital Ocean for a while, but their prices weren't the best. $10 for dual core, 1GB of RAM and 30GB SSD? Eh, almost not worth it.
Turns out, a local data center was having a black friday sale. 80% off colocation. Ended up getting one of my servers with two quad core xeons, 32GB of RAM and 1.5TB of SAS drives in there for about $45/mo, with 5 IPs. After I rent out the other 4 IPs to people for VMs, I'll be making a profit. Bye bye Digital Ocean. You served me well for a year.
>>52351496
whats with the two things stacked ontop of the hp server?
alll I need :)
>>52348991
I do. It's not too bad. Takes some time getting used to it over ESXi and vSphere, but it definitely does what it does well. And it's free. And runs Debian.
Just throw it on some decent hardware and go for it. You're not losing any money.
Bought new hdds for my file/backup server, replacing the 4x 3tb wd greens with 4x 6tb (wd) hgst nas drives.
>old setup
4x 3tb in raid 5
>new
4x tb in raid 6
Adaptec 6805, intel s5520hc, 1x e5630, 24 gb ram.
Used mainly as a fileserver.
>>52351947
A pair of 8 port switches.
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/networking-switches/product-detail.html?oid=5385017#!tab=features
>>52352018
forgot to attach the pic
What do you people use these for?
>>52352029
That's really cool how closely they match the design of the server chassis.
>>52352041
Hoarding, media server, backup server, testing software (vms) + hardware (ipmi, link aggregation)
>>52352041
Virtual labs like learning / pentesting / website building, renting services to friends for cheap price, teamspeak, various gameservers, vpn, media center, backups, testing grounds, seedbox, tor relay. we can go on for awhile with these things.
Will rasberry pi zero be enough for small low traffic xdcc server mainly for books (epubs,mobis,pdfs)?
There are several unsecure/free wifi connections near me so I just want to put something small in the attic and forget about it.
>>52352041
storage mostly. also running some other services and compiling shit.
>>52352041
Hoarding porn, mostly.
just what this board needs another general.
>>52348069
Thanks anon. This convinced me to throw an old 670 in my server just to have the capability.
only thing i wanna change is the case
i have a cheap oem case right now which has 2 3.5" drive slots which leaves me no choice to find ghetto solutions
>>52352666
delete this
>>52346092
So what do you guys do with your home server? Just curious..
>>52352634
What control software is that?
>>52352029
post pics of back of server
>>52353402
http://www.openmediavault.org/
Who's using ZFS? Curious about what raid/raidz configurations people are using
>>52351841
see >>52349637
I think its about $650ish now. I bought it off CL for about $150 though.
>>52353465
Wonderful, i've been looking for something like this that doesn't use a lot cpu resources.
server stuff, home lab etc.
how to server for a total retard?
I have used windows, mac osx and arch
where do I start?
>>52353586
assemble server
install debian
ssh into it
do stuff
>>52353586
Raspberry Pi is the most cheapest stepping stone IMHO.
>http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Storage/Hard+Drives/3.5+Inch+SATA+Drives/1.5TB+-+8TB/3TB+Toshiba+Hard+Drive%2C++7200RPM%2C+64MB+Cache+?productId=56349
>3TB Toshiba DT01ACA300
>£70
What's the catch? I know Toshiba has the newer p300 and x300 hard drives series but these are arrousingly cheap.
>>52354267
Just normal desktop drives, if you start looking for NAS or Enterprise drives prices go up quickly
>>52354328
Yeah I have 4 4tb reds and they weren't that cheap. I'm usually a bit skeptical about buying the cheapest parts but I've never really heard a lot of bad shit about Toshiba recently.
Does anyone here run a few 2bay usb3? I'm thinking about buying a 4x pcie card with 2+ usb3 controllers and wondered about performance.
>>52351890
>Nvidia Riva TNT2
I bought one of those to play Quake 2 with in like 1998
>jumped on the hp microserver meme
>used it as a NAS
>slowly seems to have become louder over the years since I bought it
>cant bear to turn the thing on anymore for long periods
Anyone know of a good NAS box which is reasonably quiet?
>>52354795
Clean out your fans?
Update the system firmware?
>>52354795
Why not just move it out of hearing range?
>>52354417
Yea, i supose you could use them but don't know if they'll handle load nicely after year of running 24/7
>>52354795
I have a gen8 and its quiet as fuck. I've been transcoding for 3 days straight and fan is at 35% which isn't loud, especially considering I have a e3 1240v2 in there with that tiny heatsink.
Upgrade your bios and everything else and clear some dust.
I'm considering buying a second one. As far as 4 bay nas solutions go £170 for a microserver is a fucking steal for what you get.
>>52354815
Might try fans I guess. But im sure they're spinning at the same RPM as when I used it first.
>>52354887
I would need to drill a hole in the wall to put it in another room which I cant do.
Also
>god damn that hard drive cage rattle
>>52355033
It's just to stash my porn really. I'll get 2 and mirror them so they won't really be accessed constantly. Usage pattern would be more like that of a backup drive.
>>52355122
Update your firmware. If you need the current update ISO, I can make it available.
>>52355122
Nigger you have server grade hardware. Login to your fucking iLO and check the 10+ temperature sensor to see where the problem lies. Check for compatibility issues with pcie cards as well.
>>52354795
>fans go bad
>replace the whole server
Frogposter, everyone.
>>52355191
Oddly enough the HP microserver gen8 has a proprietary fan connector and it won't POST without it which rules out 3rd party fans.
So i tried activating windows server 12 r2 with kmspico but somehow it fucked up the admin password or something afterwards, anyways when i try to login now it just says that the password is incorrect every time even though it's correct
I then tried this workaround where you boot from the installation DVD, open up a command prompt and rename the Utilman exe thingy in system32 to reset the password, however when i tried to do this it said that there was a syntax error. Also there was no utilman.exe anymore in system32 in the first place at that point.
I also created two or three new user accounts with new passwords via cmd but then it said that although the user accounts themselves were created they could not be added to the local "User" group afterwards
What i then tried to do was to change the admin password in cmd via the dsmod command but this didn't work either because it said that the "File could not be found", whatever the hell that means
Note that when i try to create a password reset floppy disc it just claims that it's not a valid floppy storage device, which is also a blatant lie
Wat do? Do i have to reinstall the entire fucking thing now?
>>52355113
>>52355182
>>52355157
>>52355242
I'm using the N40L model BTW.
>>52354770
The motherboard doesn't have onboard video, and that was the only PCI video card I had laying around. I only use video on the server when it boots, so I can input the encryption key.
But, yeah, it is a very old video card.
>>52355242
would it be possible to hook the connector up with the fan electronics minus all the plastic and then have a fan over 4 pin molex
I also saw oem replacements on ebay for $30 and while that's not cheap it's only 100% more than premium regular fans
>>52355316
Disgusting
>>52355304
Would hirensboot do the trick here perhaps? Or does that only work with windows 7, 8 et al
>>52355304
if you are student you can get windows server for free from dreamspark
I use a tiny Dell desktop that was given to me for free. I keep my movies and shit on it. Pictures automatically backup to it from my phone's camera roll. I run Murmur because Skype is shit. I'm an amateur, really. What else should I do with this thing?
>>52355385
>when it boots, so I can input the encryption key
this is why i love IPMI
>>52355524
>>52355524
>Offline NT Password & Registry Editor
Should i try using this? It says "for all windows versions" but nothing about windows server in there
>>52355589
Ah their site says it's also for all the server versions
Think i'll give this one a try, will report back with results
>>52355397
I'm not sure. I've seen a diagram somewhere on how to do it but I can't into soldering which is stopping me. Plus the fan isn't an issue at all but I'm sure it will be at some point.
>>52355544
I wish I had a nice server motherboard, but I just can't afford one for now. Maybe someday.
This is one of the longer lasting hst threads we've had, guys! Way to go!
Slowpoke here. I can't believe the E3-1231 has hyperthreading.
How does the Memetium fare with multiple plex streams? I was thinking of getting the mentioned Xeon, since I might regret it later and it's already expensive as it is. It'll serve as a NAS with ZFS and RAIDz2, maybe handle the torrents, maybe as an e-mail server, plex but I'd need a graphics card for a good mpv config, owncloud, etc. I've been using Debian on the laptop for about 6 months now, but I feel I'm still too new at it and think I'll fuck up quickly. Which OS should I go with?
I have a computer with two 160GB drives that I never use, it's got Arch installed on it. What can I do with it?
>>52355929
never buy more than 2 hard drives from the same place, you should be spacing out the purchases between different companies.
if the ram isnt ecc, dont bother with a xeon in the first place
>>52355929
Are you saying you need a good graphics card for plex? I use a 4970 in a dell optiplex I got 4free and it works pretty well except my fuckshit internet
>>52355975
Plex transcoding is CPU bound. GPU makes zero difference (right now, anyway)
>>52355970
It's ECC and yeah, I've heard about purchasing at different times since it's likely that one of drives will be fucked up.
>>52355975
This Xeon doesn't have an iGPU.
>>52355929
if you're gonna buy a xeon, use a server board and ECC RAM.
server boards come with nice features like IPMI and KVM over IP - very useful for headless servers.
>>52356037
It is a server board.
Here's a link to the parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yVv6kL
>>52356021
its not about one drive being fucked up, its about getting all of the drives from the same batch, which means if one goes bad the likelihood that others will drop at the same time is much higher.
you bite the bullet and pay the difference to buy a couple from amazon, newegg, b&h, etc
and you ALWAYS run a full sector disk check from the bootable WD utility before you actually put the drive in to use
>>52355626
Shit actually worked and i can log in back after blanking the password in that shell script, that's a neat little program
However now that i can log back in again i just saw that the activation still failed
So yeah i think i have the wrong kmspico version here or something. Gonna keep looking, i'm sure there's something out there to fix this
>>52355929
Alot of xeons/server motherboards don't power on with normal ram make sure you'll check if its actually compatibile
High power porn archive.
>>52356758
Damn nigga. How much storage is in there?
>sent up a wamp server on my home server on a port 81
>have static IP
> route all connections to the IP on port 80 to the servers port 81
>buy a domain
>link it to my IP
>load up my website on wamp
>everything weeks
>everything weeks when I acess it via IP too.
How can I keep the website being acessable from a domain and refuse any connection coming from a direct IP ? I know its basically the same thing but I hope there is a way to differentiate between these types of connections ,preferably before it even hits the server. Deal with it at the router or so
For my home lab.
Gonna put a few production vms on there though, tons of resources to go around
>>52356780
5x4 TB drives in raidz1 which is 14.3 TB formatted. Complete overkill at the moment, but I like to buy things once if possible.
Also found out my college does dreamspark, so am tempted to use WS2012 R2. FreeNAS is not really plug and play when it comes to playing nice with windows stuff (which is every machine here). Not sure what I did, but permissions are borked on my home shares and the only way to fix is probably with CLI utils, which I'm not a fan of.... Or I could just get gud.
>>52356938
Ayyyyy, you have the same motherboard as me.
This anon btw.
>>52356758
>>52348991
It works really well if you want some VMs but you don't care about learning industry standard virtualization software.
I used proxmox to learn linux, now I am a sysadmin.
I would credit proxmox with kickstarting my tech career 4 and half years ago.
>>52356990
it works really well would buy it again.
Funny I have a freenas system too.
>>52357061
It's been really picky about operating systems. Couldn't find a flavor of ubuntu it liked, found it liked CentOS, but any kernel update broke it, and so far it likes all windows stuff so far.
Still, stable, lots of expansion, can't really complain.
>actually using server motherboard ECC
unless you guys are hard core you don't need this
>dual socket
There is 0 chance you need this
>windows
kill yourself
>SAS
like seriously? Are you guys sys admins of a data center
I thought this was home servers.
>>52357118
I put server 2012 r2 on it and it worked great and esx and it worked great.
I'm wondering what I'm going to do with my computer after splurging all over xPoint, Zen/Broadwell-E, and Polaris/Pascal. First thing would probably be eradicating Windows and going with Debian.
>>52357188
I am a sysadmin, why wouldn't I have a decent home lab?
I don't use sas drives though, I use SSDs for the important shit and whatever local storage for systems where performance isn't important.
>>52357204
Forgot specs.
>>52357191
Whelp, that's the last bit of encouragement I needed. It's already on a drive in the case, just gotta migrate the data.
>>52357188
Nigga, mine is downstairs in an Antec Three Hundred. It's as home server as it gets, but that's no excuse to not do it right.
>>52357188
Actually, yes.
And these are the results of the lessons we've learned over the years.
Also DDR3 ECC is about the same price as DDR3... (or it was last I looked)
>>52357188
>lel windows kill yourself XD
good job confirming you do nothing but try to fit in here
>>52357271
Exactly, I also put a UPS on my home server, all shit I learned at work.
1) IOPS are very imporant
2) ECC is very important
3) Backups are very important
4) Shutting your machines down gracefully is very important.
>>52357188
Found the kid that likes to brag about his amazing raspberry pi FTP machine
>>52357320
This anon here:
>>52356938
>>52357061
Funny thing is I have 4 raspberry pis doing random shit like network monitoring and what not.
I can guarantee that I am doing everything that anon does plus all the shit I am doing.
>>52357188
>There is 0 chance you need this
You're right. 2 sockets isn't enough. I have 4 and 8 socket machines...
(Dell R910's and HP DL980 G7's)
>>52357361
Teach me your ways senpai. I don't even have a pfSense router yet (do have a spare computer for one tho)
>>52357361
And I can guarantee your pi's can NOT do what an esxi box can do. But have fun trying to look cool on a 'budget'
>>52357414
Did you even look at the images I linked to?
I have an esx box with a xeon e5 2680 & 128GB of ram and a FreeNAS box with 32GB of ram and 8TB of storage.
I ALSO use raspberry pis.
>>52357490
carry on then
>>52346186
Bought a Supermicro MBD-X8DTL-IFfor 18,46€ on Amazon. Im waiting for 2 Intel E5620s and 32GB ECC RAM from eBay to build out my storag-box.
>>52355882
A free bump to you.
>>52347476
>Adobe products on a server
Time to kill yourself
>>52359564
hasn't heard of 2012 as a desktop
It's like you don't have any experience.
>>52359709
Then it isn't a home server and you shouldn't be posting about it here.
>>52359790
Listen child, I know you have some mystical abstract knowledge of what a server should be, but you are retarded, so stop it.
Does anyone know a way that I could have my server turn on automatically when accessed, even over the internet from outside my local network? Besides that, my server seems to be running pretty well.
>>52359929
Are you asking about wake on lan?
The only way to do what you are asking is to have vpn access to your home network from the internet, that could be hard to set up.
I have a compute instance in AWS that I use to forward ssh connections into a raspberry pi I have set up for console access whenever I want.
>>52359929
Wake On Lan
>>52359944
So when something tries to ping your server, the raspberry pi picks up on it and sends the wake on lan signal over local network? or did I mis understand?
>>52359976
When I ssh to aws from a certain port it gets forwarded to my raspberry pi, I then have access to my home network from that point.
Basically my pi is connected to aws and then I connect to the same machine and then I get connected the pi
>>52359976
if you have to ask, it means you are running hardware that uses way too much power in the first place. obviously enough that your parents would notice the power bill
>>52346842
I have one server with dual 2670s. Too bad that it's kinda hard to find good deals on ebay for the motherboard. I found one last year, now that same board is $200 pricier.
I finally got parts to split my gaymen PC out of my server.
Now I just need to configure Windows Server and get a few more M1015s since my fleabay HP SAS expander doesn't want to work.
Supermicro X11SSL-F
Intel i3 6100
Crucial 8GB DDR4 EUDIMM
IBM M1015 in 9211IT mode
~30TB in [spoiler]Seagate[/spoiler] HDDs
Norco 4224
>>52347579
You're living my dream. I'm running same thing with a 4790.
>>52360270
>>52355939
Where do you buy Win7 licences? I've bought some off ebay. Is there some version which you can use to activate several VMs on same physical machine?
that's an "old" dell PowerEdge 1950 with 16gb ram and 2x250gb hdd(raid 1) mounted on a wall, running cloudstack and some VMs on that(1 for irc bot and bouncer, 1 for game servers and 1 for windows server testing)
Looking to build a low power fileserver/transmission-daemon box, preferably mini-ITX. Something that is quiet, uses less than 30w idle, and maybe host a plex server as well, though plex is of low priority.
I am very interested in FreeNAS for simplicity, and am totally open to SoC systems.
Any of you already using something like that or have some advice on board selection?
>>52354795
This has been running for 4 years with no beef. Get a new fan.
Thinking of building a home server / NAS for a family member. It's primary duties would be file storage, computer backups, and multimedia via Plex.
I am trying to figure out the processor. Either a Pentium G4400 or an i3-6100. Would Plex benefit from the (slightly?) more powerful i3?
>>52360426
I was considering an HP microserver to eventually replace my old C2D server I made out of leftovers from my gaming days upgrades. Only thing is, I don't know if you can get raid 5 on them. I read that certain models support it but only with a modded firmware.
>>52360453
get a cheap-o raid controller
>>52360328
i use a pirated copy of windows 7 for that stuff. windows is normally based on hardware, so there is a good chance even if you have a legit key as long as you give the vm's the same number of cpu cores it would be fine.
i use legit dreamspark accounts for my server os's, and one of the keys is linked to 1 cpu core so all of the machines with 1 core active on the same key
>>52360436
Yes. Plex is very CPU hungry in its server for transcoding.
Plus side is that the clients don't need to do hardly anything.
>>52360453
Run storage spaces (Windows) or ZFS (Linux)
Or is the Linux equivalent LVM? Can't remember.
>>52360486
If you have an Enterprise license for 2012r2 then it should activate the 2012r2 vms automatically. Though I can't recall the specifics, but a search should give you more info.
>>52360737
do you mean datacenter version?
>>52360834
Maybe. I thought it was Enterprise, but I could be wrong.
>>52360913
there are only standard and datacenter editions of windows server afaik, and the datacenter one costs a lot more
>>52360737
thing is that I run my home office as well at my home so I like to keep licences in order for everything, but on the other hand I dont have the monies to buy enterprise level licences.
But if windows licencing would allow up to 4 virtual machines on same machine, I'd be interested.
IIRC old pro licences allowed this?
Uh oh, meant to quote this one >>52360486
>>52361139
fucken computer, how do they work
>>52361189
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_processing_unit
My shitty rack.
No specs to generally write home about, 4U up top has 32 gigs of ram. Network switches are on the rack to the left of this one, currently in the process of setting up new (to me) DAS unit.
Wiring is much cleaner than it used to be.
Anyone running openmediavault? I recently was using it and it seemed to fit all my needs. Going to buy a HP Proliant DL380 G6 soon and wondering what I should have as the base operating system.
>>52346092
bump
>>52346092
what is the cheapest and most power efficient cpu I can get to run a 24/7 server/nas shiposting machine
brownie points if it can use ecc
>>52361777
do you have a preference of Intel over AMD, or nah?
>>52361792
nah
>>52361777
Atom has ECC support nowadays, so there's that.
>>52361801
Well, when you say server, what will it be serving, other than Network Attached Disk?
There are several power efficient Xeon's if you need that kind of umph.
>>52361823
irc,email,torrents
>>52361842
Email, as in hosting an Email Server? I'm assuming you are implying you will be using an IRC client, and frankly, The power I've devoted to my dedicated torrent box (~250 active torrents constantly) is way overkill.
If you're interested in a Xeon Processor, an L Line processor in the 5000 sequence would meet or exceed your needs. All of these processors will support ECC or better. If your hardware permits for this processor, it is a good choice.
(Source: I have an L5420 in my main storage server [PowerEdge 2950 III]; server uses about 25 bucks a month in power when idling)
>>52361842
why would you host your own email server? its unreliable and easily blacklisted by the big email providers like google and outlook
>>52361902
>>(Source: I have an L5420 in my main storage server [PowerEdge 2950 III]; server uses about 25 bucks a month in power when idling)
hnngghh. I have a server in garage with dual X5650s, but because of it's power hungriness, I'm inclined not to even set it up but sell it forward.
>>52362343
To be in control of your own mail, which is no one else's business but yours anyway. And the easy blacklisting issue almost never happens. Except for some gTLDs cases like .ninja. which are commonly being abused for unsolicited email and therefore consistently blocked by some MTAs.
So choose a good DNS domain and you'll be all right. Don't be an open relay, and setup some anti spam / forgery measurements (SPF, DKIM and DMARC are a good solution).
So i want to build a NAS for storing movies/series and Plex. Does it need to have that ecc memory and special server hardware? Or can i just use normal hardware and linux/windows?
How much should I worry about power consumption in a home server?
I've taken an old HP desktop from work, and an even older IBM desktop that my dad found, and I plan on making them into small, simple homeservers.
Should I instead just buy parts and build my own?
>>52361305
>All those powerstrips
Get some PSU's man!
Are networks welcome too?
I just finished redoing the cabling.
It's a ZyXEL GS1920-24 switch with two routers (Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite and X SFP) in router-on-a-stick setup with VRRP on the inside.
It is connected to 5 other sites over GRE/IPsec with OSPF routing, and I peer with the dn42 VPN (BGP and OpenVPN).
The core switch is connected to another managed switch (Cisco SG200-08, no SNMP unfortunately) near the TV, for powering a HTPC, an IPTV set-top box and a smart TV.
>>52364172
>small, simple homeservers
>worry about power consumption
get some small arm based board like a raspberry pi/ banana pi, they work perfect for mall ftp/ssh file servers.
>>52346107
>generic kernel
>>52360306
>cant find a company that builds these at half size without the motherboard room in the back for extra storage
suffering
>>52351496
What enclosure are you using for the external drives? What interface and what performance are you getting?
>>52356881
nginx/apache can filter by domain by checking the host variable on requests.
>>52364430
Why would you need vrrp at home ?
>>52365235
I don't need it, but it's nice to have, especially since the provider gives 3 routable, static IP addresses.
It also doubles as a small lab, so it gives some redundancy when I fuck up a config.
Adding VLANs to the swichtes and creating the router interfaces is even automated, in a few seconds I can have a new routed VLAN that is also available on all other sites.
>>52365142
It's a SansDigital TR4U USB3 case. It was teribad. I had to remove the USB3 bridge and run it as eSATA. Performance is about what you'd expect from a PCI-E 1x card and a SATA 6. But it's all media storage, and I'll saturate the 1 gig interface before I will the SATA bus.
I'm going to be replacing drives in a bit, so I'll replace the enclosures as well.
Unless I can find a modern HP server board that is a drop in replacement for my aging DL320s lab setup.
Anyone use ZFS on linux? I'm tempted of going with Debain instead of freeNAS for the NAS.
Shit man all this RAID ECC RAM ZFS and different OS'es stuff is overwhelming. I just want to build a NAS where i can store a big movie/serie collection.
>>52365829
I use zfs on debian. Works fine for my zraid2 array.
>>52366042
You can buy a pre-built NAS, or if you want something to play around with, an HP Microserver is a good staring point.
ECC RAM - The cost difference between ECC and regular DDR3 is usually minimal.
RAID - Redundancy in drives. If you use something like ZFS, LVM, or Storage Spaces, this is not really needed.
ZFS (or LVM, or Storage Spaces) - The idea is to be able to pool a bunch of drives, and let the software decide how to use them. Whereas RAID usually requires the same size drives (and usually same make and model) these other technologies create a pool, and allow you to slice off parts to create volumes, and configure redundancy for the individual volume.
>>52364461
I plan on using it for rtorrent and file serving, and nothing else. Will this be okay with a Pi? I have a Pi laying around so I could easily just use it.
>>52366157
Give it a shot. If nothing else, you've learned how to do it again if the hardware isn't sufficient.
>>52366157
I guess it should be good enough, I use mine as a ssh file server here >>52348315
and if you have one laying around what do you have to loose?
>>52366174
>>52366185
True. Thanks, I'll go for it.
>>52366157
network transfers are going to be slower than usb transfers. keep that in mind if you plan to move anything large around.
>>52366195
this is my only problem with them, but I just let it backup in the background and I can listen to music, look at pictures, watch shows from anywhere fast so to me its good enough.
I'm pretty jelly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS3cfl-7n-4
ayy lmao
Looking for a mini-ITX case for my build.
Any recommendation? Fractal's products are out of stock from my favorite store.
I'm looking for something cheap, what do you guys think of the Cooler Master Elite 110?
>>52366129
Thanks anon. Appreciate it.
1.5 kVA APC UPS is on its way.
also planning on buying 8 additional 4TB drives so I can make a RAID 60 with 3 RAID 6 sets of 15 drives each, then I'll just mount 2 or 3 hot-spares internally (non hotswap).
>>52365523
Damn, I've been looking at those sansdigital enclosures for a while and finally started seeing them pop up on UK sites but I was waiting for some reviews.
How did you convert it to esata?
>>52366914
Unplugged the USB 3 bridge board, and ran a SATA cable from a PCI card. It's ghetto as hell, but it works.
no pics since i'm at work but my setup at home is:
2x - Dell R610, 2x L5640, 16GB ECC RAM, 6x250GB HDD RAID10, primary DC with 1 redundant failover
4x - Supermicro 3U 836 chassis, 2x E5-2670, 64GB ECC RAM, 2x Intel S3500 120GB RAID1 OS drive, 6x 2TB HDD, x1 Mellanox ConnectX-2 40 Gbps dual-port Infiniband adapter
x1 - Supermicro 4U 846 chassis, 2x E5-2670, 64GB ECC RAM, 2x Intel S3500 120GB RAID1 OS drive, 4x 2 TB HDD, x1 Mellanox ConnectX-2 40 Gbps dual-port Infiniband adapter
x1 - Intel R2312GZ4GCSAS, 2x E5-2670, 96GB ECC RAM, x2 Intel S3500 120GB RAID 1 OS drive, 2x 2 TB HDD, x1 Mellanox ConnectX-2 40 Gbps dual-port Infiniband adapter
In the Supermicro chassis I use a combination of onboard SATA ports and Dell H310 adapters flashed to IT mode as general "dumb adapters", and, in the Intel chassis I just use the individual disks in JBOD/RAID0 mode. All 6 are part of a ScaleIO shared storage cluster, no RAID, ZFS, etc.
Networking backbone is pretty basic, it's a Cisco 3560E for general connectivity, management, internet, etc., with a Mellanox IS5030 switch providing the storage area network backbone for ScaleIO.
All running Server 2012 R2 ;)
Hey guys I just got a Eaton 5e essentials USB PSU and trying to configure it with PFsence and NUT or apcupsd but I have no ideia what i'm doing.
>>52367086
SAS or do you have 4 sata cables coming out?
>>52367122
how much does a setup like this cost in the grand scheme of things?
>>52367463
Gona be about tree fiddy
>>52366129
I was just about to shitpost and yell at you for "price differences", but holy shit RAM has finally gone down.
Only a $70 difference between 32GB of ECC/non-ECC RAM, and the ECC RAM is also 2x16GB. Fucking sweet.
>>52366724
This, all for a home server?
Why could you possibly need 45 hard drives? I could never fill up that much storage.
Heck, i've only used 200GB on my 1TB drive in my NAS.
>>52368272
Not >>52366724 but I could definitely use all that. A plex server will chew through storage like you wouldn't believe. Especially if you have people requesting content often.
I've used about 9TB of storage just in movies alone, TV is like 20TB. Just downloaded Friends, which was 700GB.
>>52368263
FYI - There is a difference between ECC and ECC Registered. Xeon E3's don't take ECC Registered.
>>52368272
>640K of memory was more than anyone needed
Anon, I don't know how 1TB is enough for anyone.
OS on flash drive by motherboard USB or waste a SATA port for SSD? I think I should fuck off to the stupid questions thing.
>>52347865
15k drive have been around for a looong time, like original scsi drives were 15k
>>52368496
Depends on what your booting.
If its something as trivial as PFsense which loads to RAM then no.
If its something like FreeNAS then its arguable if you do a 2 USB flashdrive vs SSD.
If its linux based dont even bother.
>>52349490
Absolutely disgusting...
>>52357366
Pics or it didn't happen, on the dl980
I've never seen one of those in the flesh. How would you rate it? Specs?
>>52368272
Unless you want to lose your shit some day you need backups. I have 20tb of raw storage and 10tb after backups. I don't buy just one hard drive anymore.
>>52360358
That is absolutely hilarious
>>52357366
>those fucking heatsinks
My dongle is fully erect
>>52361305
Dat R900, damn son those bastards are noisy
>>52357366
>those fucking heatsinks
My dongle is fully erect
>>52366724
You sure 1.5kVA is enough for all that?
>>52368745
LGA1567 m8
>>52368272
yes its a home server and it is indeed for simple storage and backups.
>>52369498
yep, will be enough to get it to shut down safely.
all the hardware is current gen so its all very power efficient.
