>27"
>1440p
>Gsync
>Dell
>$599
What do you guys think? Its only a TN panel but the IPS ones from Acer and Asus are around $800.
Think its worth it for $599? I really want a Gsync monitor but fuck, they are all so expensive.
>>52203015
I got my refurbished rog pg278q from eBay for only 550 dollars. 1440p gsync goodness is affordable
>gsync
lol, you got meme'd. enjoy your overpriced monitor
>>52203015
>TN
Not even once
>>52203178
how is the quality?
>>52203015
Modern tn really isn't that bad.
i'm getting this monitor next week. i'm hype
>>52203015
I think you're getting ripped off considering you can buy a nice 40" 4k TV for less.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2716dg.htm
i'd say it's worth it, considering it just came out and was originally priced at 800. it got great reviews.
>>52203755
yeah, enjoy your awful dpi and 60hz. enjoy spending 2000 dollars on two titans just to be able to play in 4k for the next few years.
also enjoy your no 4k content other than games. 1440p is the sweetspot for pc gaming.
>>52203807
>no 4k content
proper desktop environment scaling makes text and images benefit from 4k
4k is 2x of 1080p, so scaling shouldn't be an issue either
the transition to 4k shouldn't be as problematic as you're making it. you're just making it harder than it needs to be.
>>52203807
>awful dpi
you mean dpi that's perfect to not have to scale your content because of how stupid you were to buy a <30" 4k?
>b-b-but muh font autism
Enjoy your autism kid
>enjoy spending 2000 dollars on two titans just to be able to play in 4k for the next few years.
That's a funny way of saying you are ignorant on the subject to not even know how dumb you are to think you need sli titans to use 4k.
> enjoy your no 4k content other than games.
>MUH GAYMENS
Enjoy being a stupid consumer who thinks PCs are for nothing but youtube, movies and gaymening
Go back to /v/ if you want to show off how dumb you are kiddo. Maybe they will complement you on irresponsible spending.
>>52203015
Or get this 4k 60z IPS monitor with Freesync for $550
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B012BPM87E?vs=1
>>52203015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236466
IPS panel 144Hz 1440p model, for the same price.
>>52203883
>freesync
you used to know your shit, what happened
>>52203879
>60Hz
Stop recommending trash.
>>52203866
OP wants a gaming monitor not some shit ghosting 40ms panel with a god awful input latency from scalers. You're in the wrong thread. Get the fuck out.
>>52203879
>>52203883
>ips for video games
>>52203879
>>52203883
I have an Nvidia gpu, can't use freesync. I do regret not getting AMD just for the fact that Gsync monitors are $200 more expensive than freesync.
>>52203890
nvidia stopped paying him
>>52203890
G-Sync is ~$150-$200 extra. Better to get an IPS panel.
>>52203899
>ghosting 40ms panel
Don't buy a shit TV.
>>52203755
>40"
>4K
>less than $599
>nice
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
4K TVs that are less than $599 are absolute dogshit.
Even if we don't include pixel response or input lag (and usually I don't since I'm not some super autistic FPS gamer, but TONS of TVs have really, really horrid input lag that you'd notice even on console games), the picture quality of these TVs is atrocious. Bad blacks, bad contrast, much of the time not even 60 Hz.
>>52203902
>thinks he needs 144Hz
You're probably not even good at competitive games that would need the edge.
>>52203930
>i'm not some super autistic gamer
>proceeds to talk about gaming
this monitor would have been the shit if it came out one year earlier. now they had to lower their price by 200 dollars only months after release to stay competitive. still a fine gaming screen, it just came out too late to have an impact.
dell is also known for good displays, unlike acer and asus
>>52203904
Freesync isn't ULMB capable.
There is ONE (1) Freesync monitor capable of backlight strobing but it cost more than competing Gsync monitors.
>>52203910
OP here, currently using one. Bought the korean one for around $300. 27", 1440p, its really nice especially considering the price, but I really want a gsync monitor.
>>52203930
>the picture quality of these TVs is atrocious
Says the person buying a TN
>>52203883
>freesync
>>52203937
>>i'm not some super autistic gamer
>>proceeds to talk about gaming
>found the autist sitting two feet away from a 40" 4K TV
>>52203948
>I really want a gsync monitor.
As long as you are aware of the cons of getting a TN panel screen, go for it.
>>52203910
they can charge that much because freesync is not a real competitor at this rate
>>52203962
great metric
>>52203970
>found the autist making fun of 40" users when he had multiple 20+" monitors most likely
reminder that the hardware i spent my money on is automatically better than what you recommend
>>52203896
144hz monitors are overrated tbqh.
can you name 10 games other than league of legends or any source game that you can play at 144hz?
i bet you can't.
>>52204026
Battlefront
ulmb or g-sync?
Unless you can get up to 144 fps, 144hz is wasted. And no single card can run 4k 144hz.
>>52204037
WJOOHOOO $500 DOLLARS FOR ONE GAME
kill yoruself you fucking retard. i'll say it again, 144hz monitors are overrated.
>>52204061
There are no 4K 144Hz screens.
>>52204063
>i'm so poor :((
that's all i got out of your post
>>52204026
Its not just being able to hit 144 fps, which is nice for some games like CS. but having 144hz means almost no screen tearing. So even if your PC can do only around 80fps on a game, you can turn off vsync(which causes input lag) and play the game at 80fps without any screen tearing. And if you add gsync on top of that, even if your fps fluctuates from 60 to 80, you will not notice a difference.
Get the Asus mg279q. GSync is gonna die. Adaptive-Sync is supported by Vesa.
>>52203015
Got a brand new xb270hu from Newegg for 570. Just wait for Shit to go on sale.
>>52204048
*sync is ONLY useful on 60hz panels where tearing is visible.
>>52204119
how's the backlight bleeding and ips glow, m8
>>52204100
kill yourself tbqfh familia
>i spend $600 to play 3 FPS games
you're literally fucking stupid, yes i sold my XB270HU too.
>>52204141
>i sold my XB270HU too
i guess you really were in need for money for food. you don't even have a 980ti, poorfag
>>52204110
OP has an nVidia GPU, and nVidia does not support FreeSync. Yet.
>>52204140
Not that bad, bruv.
>>52204167
rma that shit. better luck next time
>>52204155
Spot on.
How long until OLEDs have their saturation and degradation problems fixed so we can have pitch deep blacks in our monitors?
>>52204188
Never.
Samsung OLED degrades. LG white OLED fades.
>>52204155
>don't own a 980TI
because i'm not spending a single cent more on maxwell, i'm currently getting parts for my custom loop and saving for pascal, i guarantee my build will be much better than yours.
regardless, you still can't name 10 games you can play at 144hz.
>>52204210
Well that's depressing, so we're basically stuck with backlit LCDs for who knows how long with no measurable improvement in sight?
>>52204179
Not taking that chance. I'll end up with a worse panel.
>>52204217
You bought a weak card that isn't capable of driving 144hz without turning the settings way down. You're the one to blame. Not even that guy btw
>>52204237
>stuck
Backlit is good though.
>>52204167
>>52204240
from what i read there is no way to get rid of backlight bleeding on an IPS panel. if its excessive, you should RMA it, but if its only noticeable in certain conditions, you should keep it. that doesn't look bad at all.
Does a 120 Hz screen display 30 FPS content (video and such) better than 144 Hz due to the neat division?
>>52204290
Backlight bleed is a byproduct of shitty imprecise human manufacturing. One part of the backlight is too close to the panel so it appears brighter. You can fix it yourself by loosening the clamps and readjusting the backlight.
It's like factory thermal paste, you can't expect them to put just the right amount and right in the center.
>>52204288
It's pretty decent but it puts a hard cap on contrast and blacks, plus it increases LCD thickness and adds one more component that can fail. I've had otherwise perfectly functional laptop screens become useless because their backlights died.
>>52204245
you seem to be missing the point, i posted my build to prove, one that i've tried 144hz monitors and two that i don't own some cookie cutter i5/970 build.
a single 980TI isn't going to get you 144hz in GTA V, fallout 4, witcher 3 or any new game so all you're doing is strengthening my point that the number of games that will be able to take advantage of 144hz is extremely limited.
someone recommends a 60hz monitor and he says
>Stop recommending trash.
so i point out to him just how poor of a decision it is to own a 144hz monitor when you can only use it to its full potential in about, less than 10 games?
>>52204290
I swear it's a meme. I literally only notice it when turning the monitor on. I'll take it for the ips colors and viewing angles.
>>52204381
having a 144hz monitor isn't about reaching 144fps in every game.
>>52204381
I'm the guy whose been posting the pictures. I run 2 oc'd 980 tis. I would not recommend a 1440 monitor or a g sync one unless you're fully committed to the money pit.
>>52204381
I was going to type in a lengthy response but this anon summed it up eloquently >>52204406
High refresh rates significantly reduces motion blur and removes tearing almost completely without the need of *sync.
>>52204405
>IPSfags will defend this
>>52204520
It's not about it being an ips, personally. It's that it's quite likely that if I rma I will end up with an even worse panel. I did around 3 months of research before I bought it. And most importantly, if it doesn't bother me in real life, I'm not gonna rma to satisfy someone on here.
How's this for a beginner monitor?
http://m.newegg.ca/Product/index?itemnumber=24-236-451
I'm just entering the PC master race and I'm having trouble picking out the right monitor as I don't want to feel like I picked the wrong monitor.
>>52204337
Is there a reason why backlight bleed is less frequently and to a lesser extent a problem for 10" IPS iPad displays and 13/15" IPS laptop displays?
My rMBP has little if any bleed on its screen.
>>52204091
WELL THAN THERE ARE NO SCREENS WORTH GETTING ARE THERE?
>>52204520
some people do more than stare at a black screen all day
>>52204653
Post specs or we don't know.
>>52204695
Not yet, Billy.
>>52204317
Whatthefuckareyousaying,bitch?
>>52204653
If you are looking for an IPS monitor, you might as well go for the korean ones like Qnix. You can't beat the price for what you are getting. Of course everything else like the bezel is very minimalist, but most important are the panel and picture quality right?
quantum dot monitors when
>>52204711
Screen Size: 25"
Resolution: 1080p
Pixel Pitch: 0.288mm
Display Colours: 16.7 million
Brightness: 250cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 80,000,000:1
Response Time: 5ms
Panel: AH-IPS
>>52204768
Are TN panels a big deal for gaming? IPS sounds nicer and intriguing but the monitor is 5ms. Is that okay for gaming on both PC and console? The monitor is also an AH-IPS if that makes any difference.
z
>>52203015
ya need two titan xs for 4k gaming tho, unless you enjoy cinematic stuttering 23fps and lower.
>>52204061
fuck this board is stupid as shit, kill urself tard
>>52205463
you can't tell the quality of a monitor from the specs, you have to look at reviews. things like color accuracy, how even the light across screen and various other attributes can't be found from specs.
TNs aren't a "big deal" for gaming. TNs are cheap, low quality panels, but unfortunately (almost) the only option if you're doing competitive FPS games or other fast paced games. I've had a 120hz TN and 60hz IPS side by side for a few years, and I did virtually all my gaming on the IPS simply because better image quality beats the hell out of a faster panel in the vast majority of games. The games I play, anyway. I wouldn't buy a TN unless your main priority is fast paced games and you don't have a problem sacrificing quality in everything else for that.
>>52207312
Aren't there 120Hz+ IPS panels coming out now, or is there a fundamental flaw to those?
I'd get the Acer Predator XR341CK. If you're going to spend $600, save the extra $200.
general question: are the 300$ korean IPS monitors still recommendable? I'm currently on a good-ish 22" Samsung TN and I need a bigger primary monitor. I dont want to spend more than 300 and IPS seems better for light foto editing too. My GPU is too shit to game on 1440p anyways, but I feel I want the space...
>>52203015
>gsync
>TN
>$599
U2515H was $300 for the holidays. Buy that one instead. Don't support Nvidia's bullshit business practices.
>>52208008
you're like one of those retards that has below average wage, saves some money then gambles it all away. why not just buy a thing that's supposed to work at 144hz+ ips? like Asus PG279Q
>>52204768
>If you are looking for an IPS monitor, you might as well go for the korean ones
"Korean" doesn't necessarily mean off-brand, Samsung and LG are Korean.
>>52208077
wow, you know me too well...
just kidding. I dont want to spend 800 on a gaming monitor, if I cant drive it. I do want 90 or maybe even 120Hz for office and pixelated indie roguelites which my 660Ti can handle.
It boils down to thrift. I have better uses for the money
>>52207428
There are two from Asus and Acer, 144hz, IPS, Gsync and freesync versions. But be ready to pay almost $800 for the gsync version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6jyj9XArv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg0DlTbB0Vw
>$800
>>52208161
when you say korean monitor, everyone knows its specifically NOT samsung and LG.
Can get a new pg298q for $550, what do you guys think?
Current monitor is a vg248qe so it'll be a upgrade in pretty much every way.
Never used an IPS panel and I have never had any issue on this TN. But maybe I should wait for the xb270hu to go on sale?
>>52208182
>buy a $800 IPS 1440p 165hz GSYNC monitor
>use it for a ps4
these are the people you see saying that 144hz/gsync/resolutions over 1440p are placebo
>>52204656
My 15" asus notebook, ipad air and mini 2 have zero bleeding, yet my nexus 5 has it on 3 corners and its considered normal for it. Guess it depends on manufacturer's capabilities
Why are virgins shitting up screen threads with gsync and the 144hz meme?
>>52203015
>Dell monitors
People actually buy a display from Dell. Come on it is like 2016
>>52209702
umm.... what...
>>52203939
whats backlight strobing?
>>52209702
Troll or retard.
>>52210393
Frame changes aren't instantaneous, the changing process is the primary cause of ghosting. Backlight strobing turns the backlight on only after the finalized transition.
So regular monitor:
A AB B
AB is the ghosting
ULMB turns off the backlight during AB and you only see frames A and B, not both.
>>52203962
subjective opinions based on short playtests where the article openly states the flaws in the methodology
>nvidia drones still eat it up
>>52204003
>>52203962
Quality metric indeed.
>not controlling for monitor specific specs
>not controlling for any other factors, such as brand bias
>>52210566
>>>not controlling for any other factors, such as brand bias
Give them at least a LITTLE credit, it does say "blind test".
>>52204119
It is a nice monitor, I wanted to buy it but
>700EUR
>no VESA mounting
Seems the only vaid choice for me is a QNIX2710 at this point.
OP, I got a g-sync acer monitor.
Just trust me on this, it's not worth it. You're going to regret wasting the money.
I still get a bit of screen tearing somehow if you turn off v sync, if your fps goes above 144.
G sync is a complete meme.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/856778/gsync-on-vsync-off-screen-tearing/
If you're a cs go/ twitch shooter nerd it MIGHT improve your gameplay by a minimal amount, but the money isn't going to validate it.
You're better off getting an ips panel and just enjoying the quality colors, or getting a 1440p/4k monitor.
>>52210566
Freesync monitors are inherently shit anyways lacking any sort of quality assurance or validation. Any company can shit one out without a licensing fee and disappear the next day. AMD doesn't give a shit about its name being tarnished for obvious reasons. It's all about that slightly lower and fooling the masses into thinking freesync actually offers the same feature set as gsync when it actually doesn't.
Luckily Nvidia isn't desperate enough and actually force vendors go through a verification process to ensure a non shit product because their name is actually worth protecting.
>>52204317
Yes. But can't you always underclock monitors from 144Hz to 120Hz easily and with Freesync/Gsync you surely can automate this in the drivers (hopefully).
@120Hz
24fps video = 5 cycles
30fps video = 4 cycles
60fps video = 2 cycles
@144Hz
24fps = 6 cycles
30fps = fucked
60fps = fucked
Then again 144Hz is nicer because you can downclock and use it to the fullest in situations where you can.
>>52210712
Oh thank goodness I wasn't talking total crap.
But that's reassuring you can do that.
>>52210745
I am pretty sure about underclocking never being a problem (especially on modern 144Hz monitors).
Not sure about the automated adapted driver settings.
Freesync and GSync users ITT: can you set your drivers to adapt monitor freq to onscreen video?
If yes: can you determine the settings yourself. i.e. with 60fps video downclock to 120Hz. With 24 fps downclock to 96Hz or 120Hz or 144Hz. etc?
If not: Any idea if these features are planned by AMD/Nvidia?
It would be a neat feature.
>>52210633
>>>52204119 (You)
>It is a nice monitor, I wanted to buy it but
>>no VESA mounting
I don't know what you're talking about.
>>52210687
>I still get a bit of screen tearing somehow if you turn off v sync, if your fps goes above 144.
You have to limit your FPS to 144 you subhuman piece of shit.
for 800 bucks you can get a LG IPS panel korean wasabi mango in 4k.
>>52211721
Or between 2 and 3 hundred for a QHD
I have 3440x1400 ips and 1920x1080 tn 144hz
Literally the only time i use the piece of shit tn is when i play first person shooters
and thats only because it has lightboost
>>52203807
>enjoy your awful dpi
You realize 40" 4k has better dpi than a 27" 1440 right? Only by 2 dpi, but still.
>>52203962
>blind test
implying they can tell if g-sync or freesync is better
>>52211829
>I have 3440x1400 ips and 1920x1080 tn 144hz
I'm trying to decide right now between getting the Dell Ultrasharp U3415w, or wait until the Asus PG279Q gets back in stock to order that.
I'm torn between high refresh rate and G-Sync, or ultrawide, high resolution with the superior Dell warranty.
25" 1440p > 27" 1440p
bow to the king: Eizo Foris FS2735-BK
>>52214135
>1920x1080
>king
Suck a fatty.
>>52214170
>1920x1080
are you retarded or blind ?
2560 × 1440
>>52214249
Nah, amazon took me to the wrong monitor.
>>52203015
I got a 4K, IPS, FreeSync monitor for that kind of money, you're going to get a 1440p TN?
>>52214308
which one?
For the vidya? Sure
If you work on your computer all day and use a lot of screen space? Sure
Otherwise? No.
>>52214313
LG 27MU67
>>52210712
>with Freesync/Gsync you surely can automate this in the drivers (hopefully)
You cannot in general, that's not how most video players work and FreeSync/GSync won't do anything.
It shouldn't be a very serious problem though. Any decent player should have the ability to change actual refresh rate based on video FPS. Even on a 60Hz screen with nothing fancy you should be able to define custom resolutions for 24/48Hz and have the player switch automatically. FreeSync/GSync are only really needed when you're displaying shit that has variable frame rate, like games.
Gonna wait for OLED or QLED with no image retention issues to come along.
>>52204026
Even outside of gaming I find higher refresh rates much much more comfortable to use.
And even 65 fps at 120/144hz looks and feel better than 65 at 60hz.
>>52216703
OLED
4K
144Hz
G-sync(freesync)
31"
monitor when?
>>52203930
Phillips brilliance 40" 4K monitor
My 1440p IPS 60hz monitor was $260 brand new with zero broken pixels...
