Install software:
Drag some icon in to the applications folder.
Unistall software:
Drag the icon from the applications folder in to the trash.
I know that every Linux distro wants to be a special snowflake, but could freetards really not come up with some universal binary that works like this on the Linux kernel in case the application's not in your repos?
This and many other things are the reasons why there never will be a year of the Linux desktop.
Install for a few package managers
apt-get install (package)
pacman -S (package)
yum install (package)
uninstall for a few package managers
apt-get purge (package)
pacman -R (package)
yum remove (package)
I don't see what's so hard about this.
>>52181655
>in case the application's not in your repos?
Reading is hard.
Inb4 I use Aur and don't care. Most people don't use Arch.
>>52181676
Most package managers have a simple repo add option. If this is too hard then you may be retarded.
Install software:
sudo make install
Uninstall software:
sudo make uninstall
>>52181655
>Install for a few package managers
>apt-g
Literally trash.
Enjoy 0% marketshare for another decade.
>>52181735
It's not that easy for lots of the software out there in Linux land.
You often even have to compile shit.
But go on and defend it like retard. Linux is only for the leet kinds anyway amirite?
>>52181852
That's an easy and convenient way to do stuff for an autistic mind...
>>52181886
Anyone that needs software that must be compiled is likely going to be comfortable with it. But keep arguing how if it takes more than a single click it's completely autistic. I have somewhere you can place those opinions.
>>52181655
>>52181852
Maybe this works ok for you since you still live with your mom and can be her personal tech support, but people with lives and jobs and homes of their own generally prefer to have their parents' or grandparents' OS not be bogged down with antique 70's user interfaces.
>>52181886
My computer is from 2008 so I have to really want a program to compile it, but you have more money than me and can afford a newer machine so why are you so averse to using your computer?
>>52181922
You're right, it's not the 1.5% freetards who are wrong.
It's the 98,5% who are just too retarded to get this beautiful OS.
>>52181973
How many of those have used any OS other than Windows? How many of those will not become confused when you try to explain to them what an operating system is?
>>52181939
Many distros support one click install and there are a wide range of DE's available.
>>52181973
The only thing I know is that 99.9% of people who try Linux will go back to Windows/OS X.
Now try to think why that is.
>>52182049
How can you 'know' a lie?
>>52182049
meant
>>52181997
>>52182062
Linux stagnates at around 1% since over a decade.
>>52181608
What the fuck? I swear I just saw the girl in the photo move.
>>52182097
And the market share for OSX grows and grows, as does Android. You know what Windows and OSX and Android have in common?
>>52182097
>over a decade.
And so did their user interface design.
>>52181497
I'm convinced op is a retard, this is my first post here btw, but I've read his replies.
There's no shame knowing that Linux is simply, not for you. I think you want a Mac or something
>>52182198
Android is not Linux:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2708206/is-android-really-a-linux-distribution.html
OS X is UNIX.
Which both doesn't help Linux on the Desktop btw.
I would rather see some Google OS for the Desktop than this autismo shit we currently have.
>>52182222
Just give it some more time. It's not that this is the first thing everyone complains about when trying Linux...
>>52181886
Name one remotely stable OSS project that doesn't have official or third-party PPAs for Ubuntu.
>>52182282
Read my post again, shitposter.
>>52182049
>here's numbers
>im rightl ol
cool made up stat you got there
>>>/v/
>>52181608
statically
compiled
tarball
>>52182385
So what is it?
>>52182393
Someone who doesn't blindly love Linux can only be a /v/irgin!!!
>>52182450
They're all installed on hardware out of the box you dingus.
>>52182499
Windows 8 was preinstalled and most people hated it and went back to 7. Same thing would happen to Linux . See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWrmT0ovPE
UBUNTU
>>52182049
Source or GTFO
>>52182542
You make a fair point, but you didn't account for the millions who hated Android on their smartphones and installed Windows Phone.
>hated Android on their smartphones and installed Windows Phone.
WAT
>muh portable binary format that works on literally any Linux system
Sounds nice on paper, but its not possible since the Linux kernel can be used for anything by anyone. People that demand this don't seem to realize that this would mean forcing anyone that runs linux to also run "frameworks and libraries X on architecture Y with compile-flags Z", which would be horrible cause some users simply need the option to be non-compatible if they want to. Those restrictions would also require to make it non-free software, which isn't even possible at this point.
What you can do (as >>52182444 already wrote) is just link any library statically and produce a binary that will work starting from a certain kernel version. There are multiple proprietary software projects that do exactly this and it works just fine.
>why doesn't anyone create those portable binaries then?
Cause linking everything statically requires a huge maintenance effort and puts you as a developer into the obligation to ship patches for all libraries you are using. Create a DEB and an RPM, and point launchpad and COPR to your repository, which is all that is needed to automatically create packages that work on 95% of the Linux desktop world. There is absolutely no point in doing anything beyond that just to support the last few percents of systems and users that probably don't even care about compatibility with your software.
>b-but why do I have to compile software?
You don't unless you actively and willingly chose a distribution that doesn't support standard packaging formats described above. Its almost impossible that for any remotely useful project nobody took the two little steps described above to make packages for the big ecosystems.
>>52182042
Name one that doesn't have this problem:
>>52181497
The fact I even have to ask when Windows 98 didn't have this problem 18 years ago is already reason enough to never recommend linux to anyone I know.
I have no desire to be daily tech support for every one I know because they can't see more than one thumbnail at a time from their vacation photos to upload to their facebook.
>>52183498
Kubuntu
>>52183542
Don't make me install Kubuntu just to prove you wrong.
You would see me trying to upload some pic via Firefox, with the same broken file picker as everywhere, and you would come up with some bullshit excuse for it.
>>52183542
I'm still hung over from last night but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and download it and VMware it.
>>52183647
Kubuntu uses Konqueror as browser.
>>52183669
I#'m using Firefox on Windows since Firebird. Don't force me to use another browser on Linux just because your shit is broken.
>>52183652
>>52183647
Konqueror is the Kubuntu browser and uses the Qt file chooser. If you want to waste your time go ahead and try it.
Besides, any OS has some unique interface glitches that are unpatched since 20 years while working on any other OS. If your tolerance is this low you might want to stop using software alltogether.
>>52183755
>Besides, any OS has some unique interface glitches that are unpatched since 20 years while working on any other OS
>damage controlling this hard
>>52183498
Arch Linux
>>52181608
That's coming in the form of xdg-app.
>>52183701
I honestly dont care what you *want* to use. You asked for a distribution that has grid view in the browser file picker and I named you one. It exists, use that Information however you want.
If your browser of choice ships with a different file picker you should probably complain at the mozilla foundation not 4chan.
>>52183971
So much for that, faggot.
>inb4 Antergos is not really Arch, I meant AFTER you've installed some patch,...
>>52184086
>having an os so shit it has to depend on 3rd party programs to include their own file picker
>>52183794
How do you like your kernel-level scrollbars?
Who's the girl?
>>52184243
my mum
>>52183542
>Kubuntu
ayylmao
>>52181655
And this is why Linux is such a goddamned failure. And that you are too stupid to understand why is the biggest reason of all why Linux and its supporters suck
>>52181886
Whats so hard about compiling?
I do it all the time and it doesnt hurt me.
Why settle for a package in a repo thats compiled by some body else when you can customize the built to get the best performance on your specific architecture?
>>52184749
If you aren't a hipster who is too cool to use Ubuntu this is literally not an issue for you.
>>52182042
No they do not. Not fucking one distro can I download ANY Linux software click the icon and install.none.
>>52181886
>compile shit
you know that if the said software does'nt offer pre buit binaries it probably is shit
If you don't like linux, then don't use it. Why make a thread?
>>52184780
Wait a second. It is 2016 and there still exists anti-Linux shitposters? What is wrong with people?
>>52184777
Bull. It's an issue for EVERYONE. Which is why nobody uses your OS. If you need to mess with a command line for any simple day to day task than its more trouble than it's worth.
>>52184749
I think the failure is you sunshine.
Seeing as though linux package management is that hard for you to comprehend.
>>52184814
Hey its 2016 and people still make excuses for bad software and shitty interfaces... And they still do so WITHOUT addressing the issues...
>>52182049
Games and FUD.What else.I used to hate Linux when I first tried.There was no games.Then the latest Windows 7 broke my old computer and I had to keep using Linux.Now I am too scared to change even though my computer is new.
>>52184836
I think your deflecting with little success. Even worse your attitudes alienate Linux further from any real user base. Hence yet another reason nobody uses Linux:its toxic user base.
>>52184824
>nobody uses your OS
Why are you even complaining about a system you don't use?
>>52184824
And I'm not exactly using the flavor of the month must-have OS. Your problems seem to relate more to Arch than any normal person Linux distro.
>>52184841
But they don't. There are countless distros whose sole purpose is looking pretty. Nobody uses them because, appearance is not really that important. Otherwise Windows would have no market.
>>52181608
>come up with some universal binary that works like this on the Linux kernel in case the application's not in your repos?./configure && make && make install
>>52182282
>Android is not Linux
The problem is people think Linux is a full OS.And retards like you can't care to research the facts.
Android is JRE+Linux.What you refer to as autismo shit is Gnu+Linux.
OS X is BSD,a descendent of original unix
Chrome OS is nothing more than a glorified riced Gentoo.Even basement dwellers can build that.Android and Linux kernel developers used to keep seperate branches but now they have united
Sorry but next time you don't want to look retarded make a research instead of being spoonfed by some blogger.
>>52181886
>>52181939
>>52181973
>>52182049
>>52182222
>>52183498
>>52184135
>>52184749
>>52184780
Stick with the type of downloading you know best. Ill stay with the ease of linux package management.
Pic related.
>>52184904
>./configure && make && make install
>"goddamnit mom why is it so hard for you to memorize such a simple command!?!?! ugh! i'll be in the basement, i can't handle your computer illiteracy anymore!"
>>52184992
>is so socially awkward he can't even explain to his mother how to compile software
>>52185011
>>is so socially awkward he tries to get his mother to compile software
>>52185054
>is so socially awkward he is too scared to ask for a dictionary to look up what socially awkward means
>>52182282
>macshit
>unix
>mach by design was to make a unix-like kernel and remove all ACTUAL unix code for use in bsd
>applel in its death throes couldn't wait for mach3 to be finished
>uses shit tier experimental mach2.5
>shoehorns in BSD code to make up for mach2.5 being an unfinished piece of shit
>still calling it unix
ayylmao
>>52184930
>That image
No longer really applies to what the windows environment is like anymore, but please continue with that strawman.
>>52181608
The biggest issue is dependencies, some distros only pack 32 bits libraries, some have non standard package names, etc...
In Windows this is not a problem as every program includes all the dependencies it needs, of course there are drawbacks to that approach, the file sizes of windows applications are bigger, and for example if there is a bug on one of the dependencies you have to wait until the developer of the program ships the new versions.
On Linux you would usually use a package manager, but when THAT program is not available and you just have a tarball with a bin lib and include folders you are pretty much on your own finding the required dependencies. This is more neat that what Windows does, but it also has plenty of drawbacks.
What we need is something that mixed the 2, something that allow software to ship with its dependencies and also make them available system wide.
Canonical is working on something like that, I don't remember the name but it was some sort of embedded dependencies packages, in theory they would work on any distro without any problem.
>>52185332
>What we need is something that mixed the 2, something that allow software to ship with its dependencies and also make them available system wide.
So the Windows Store.
>>52181886
>It's not that easy for lots of the software out there in Linux land.
Add repo, use package manager to uninstall package.
>You often even have to compile shit.make clean && sudo make uninstall
>>52184750
>Why settle for a package in a repo thats compiled by some body else when you can customize the built to get the best performance on your specific architecture?
because gentoo :^] It compiles packages automagically.
>>52181973
ayy, the first thing that anybody should do upon installing os x is get macports.
>>52185332
For Debian to comply with the package naming used by every other distro would solve most of those problems.
>>52183498
openSuSE
They patch your shitty firefox to use KDE's dialog.
>>52186134
>it's mozilla's fault that they default to the OS's native file picker that is utter shit in 2016, when 99% of the desktop market hasn't had this problem in almost 2 decades
>>52186172
Chromium defaults to the OS' native file picker. It just werks. If Firefox doesn't because they are shitty Gtk bootlicking niggers it ain't Linux fault. They should learn to program.
This is the code that does the job on Chromium: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/chrome/browser/ui/libgtk2ui/select_file_dialog_impl_kde.cc
It's all it takes.
>>52186220
Mozilla literally didn't even exist at the time when this problem was already solved in W98. That's how old this problem which still afflicts every single GNOME based distro in 2016 is.
daily reminder that windows 10 is free and there is now LITERALLY zero reasons to use linux
>>52186308
M8 I don't know what point are you trying to convey. Your shitty browser relies on a shitty picker.
There's a better browser that doesn't. Or you can patch your shit browser.
In the end, Windows has the same problem if the application uses toolkit pickers.
To all the newfags: >>52186324
is bait and if you reply with an argument you're retarded.
>>52186328
>In the end, Windows has the same problem
>>52186364
>if the application uses toolkit pickers.
Reading is hard.
>>52186372
>if the application uses toolkit pickers.
>windows
>>52186380
>what is almost all java swing apps
>what is gtk and qt apps using the internal widget
>literally being this deluded about the platform you shill for
>>52186372
Literally the only times this ever happens is when you're forced to use opensores crap in JRE.
Native applications unless they come with a custom one like Adobe programs will always default to Windows' or OSX's own file picker, which, hasn't had this problem in 18/14 years respectively.
>>52186404
>Native applications unless they come with a custom one like Adobe programs
>one of the apps propietary fags shill the most for breaks their sacred rules
pic related
Just like in OS X and Cuckblows, good Linux applications always default to the system's default file picker. Read: Not shit gnome apps.
>>52186429
>offering a custom file picker tailored to the workflow and improves the usability
>breaks their sacred rules
>defending 1 thumbnail freetard shit
ayylmao
>>52186404
>>52186429
>>52186455
Actually, Adobe programs offer both.
"Open" will bring up the OS native file picker.
"Browse with Bridge" brings up Adobe Bridge for when you need the custom views it offers.
>>52186455
>offering a custom file picker tailored to the workflow and improves the usability
>all apps should use the system's default file picker and if it doesn't it's "open sores"
You can't have it both ways faggot.
>defending 1 thumbnail freetard shit
>literally being told it's shit, good apps don't use it and saying I'm defending it
Looks like you've lost the argument and can't give it up.
Also, the gtk2 file picker on my system does have thumbnails, only had to install a package to get it. So have fun rationalizing that.
>>52186504
>>>all apps should have a file picker that isn't utter shit, if it doesn't it's "open sores"
Fixed, and it's something 90% of freetard crap in 2016 still doesn't have out of the box. :^)
>>52186537
>90%
Top kek m8.
> falling for the Gnome distro meme
>>52186557
You have 10 seconds to name one distro that's backed by a real company (i.e. not a hobby project) that doesn't have this problem in 2016 m80. :^)
>>52186626
>distro that's backed by a real company
>I need my corporate dick to satisfy my desires
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SuSE
Now get fucked faggot.
>>52186660
>SuSE
Thanks senpai, I knew you had it in you, saved me a lot of time doing real research and googling myself while getting some kicks. :^)
>>52186694
>merelypretending.jpg
I'm sure that's why you didn't ask the question in the first place and felt compelled to try your hand at justifying your poor tech decisions :^)
>>52184243
feminist teenage bitch
http://yooying.com/p/955733599962715531_1423417996
>>52186660
Thanks for doing my research for me desu senpai. :^)
The spacing is still fucking atrocious though, icons literally take up twice or triple the space they need to. But I guess you're used to having to compromise on everything in loonix. :^)
>>52184780
Opensuse
>>52181864
>>52184749
>>52181939
OMG GUISE WINDOWS 10 GONNA HAVE A PACKAGE MANAGER LINUX BTFO HARD RIGHTTT? tfw noone even cares
>>52181608
>Unistall software:
>Drag the icon from the applications folder in to the trash.
More like
>Drag the icon from the applications folder in to the AppCleaner.app window unless you want all kinds of trash left all over your OS
>>52181608
who is this semen demon?
>>52182049
This is true and as a linux user I can confirm because almost all people who I helped and convinced to use linux as their desktop OS returned to Windows or osx because it was not homely enough for them. I mean I only give them recommendation (Mint because its most user friendly) and they do the install by themselves. I don't force them to. But they lack the willpower to use it because its alien to them. Even the tech literate people I know don't want to use linux and that's the problem.
Accepting that it is a problem is the first step towards solution.
>>52181655
Wasn't Yum replaced 2 years ago?
>>52181939
>open up software manager (its like the app store but for Linux)
>search for whatever software you wish to install
>click install
>>52181608
Who is this semen demon
>>52184809
Because /g/ stands for anti-linux shillin/g/
