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Will it meet the expectations and will make Jewtel competition?
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>>52172600
>AMD
>be succesful
lmao it will be hilarious.
>Those fucking ankles.
I sure hope so. I'm patiently waiting for Zen so I can build a rig capable of doing heavy 1080p video editing and HEVC encoding.
My hope is one of their 8-core Zen chips will match at least stock i7-5960X multi-core performance for around $500.
>>52172600
Indirectly, Jewtel supports and sponsors faggotry as a part of their campaign to "Destroy the Goy". I suspect they are literally the life support that has kept AMD alive.
Just please don't be another bulldozer.
>>52172688
>8-core Zen chips will match at least stock i7-5960X
Didn't you hear Zen will get only 4 cores?
>>52172688
Ditto. I really need a new workstation for encoding and Zen could mean 8 real cores for considerably less cash than an Intel system. Paying 3x more for 33% more performance over the 5820K just doesn't seem reasonable.
Maybe.
That's all I can say.
We've got way too little information to say for sure.
I sure fucking hope so, for all our sakes. Even if you're an intel fanboy you want Zen to be good since it'll drive intel prices down.
>>52172857
Where did you get that? 8-core Zen is pretty much a given and I've even heard of the possibility of a 12-core.
>october 2016
Such a long time to wait.
>>52172623
>Apple employe
>>52173814
Close, iPhone 6 release party.
>>52172600
>obese
>white
>gay
>"male"
>dat chubby chaser checking out dem curves in the background
>>52172623
>>52172688
But anon, Skylake-E's 8-core will also start at around $500... It's their flagship 10-core i7 that's going to start at $999.
The Skylake-E 6-cores will be around $350 and $400.
So answer me this: why buy a Zen at all?
>>52172623
I would crush that black booty desu
>>52174200
Because a Zen 6-core will be $200 and an 8-core will be $400 tops
>>52175238
Nice delusions
AMD will price the 8-core Zen like they did with the Piledriver FX-9000s
>For about a year, from mid-2013 to mid-2014, AMD’s FX-9590 processor was priced at or close to $1,000
>$1000
>Intel i7-6900k (8 cores)
>under $1000
>Skylake-based architecture and IPC well above Zen
AMDcucks BTFO
>>52175330
Both of you are wrong. Unless one of you has a time machine.
>>52175412
The 10-core i7-6950k will be $1000. Intel already confirmed that. The 8-core i7-6900k will be cheaper than $900.
Zen will follow Intel's price Jewing because they no longer want to be seen as the budget alternative. Expect to see flagship Zens priced like flagship Intels.
>>52175544
AMD will still be cheaper though. I wouldn't be surprised if AMD let us have a 3 ghz 8 core zen for around 300 bucks.
AMD can't risk costing the same as intel due to competition.
>>52175635
>3 ghz 8 core zen for around 300 bucks
That delusion.
An eight-core Zen will cost at least $500 to compete with a six or eight-core Intel.
>>52172623
>Intel mad they can't get down like AMD
>>52172623
is
is it bad that i got a boner looking at that booty
The only thing about Zen I don't like is the fact I might have to update to DDR4. Fuck, man I just bought DDR3,
If they at least make it backward compatible with my RAM I'll be on board.
>>52172600
Well right now I have actually had my gaming desktop for well over 5 years now. I first build the AMD FX 8120 with 16 GB of RAM and the Radeon 6870. This was 5 years ago, ahh now time flies. I'll be waiting for AMD zen to come out and then i can build another high end AMD PC.
>>52175657
Are you some kind of retard?
Increasing the price just to be near intel's doesn't equate to good competition. That's just being retarded and letting intel win again.
>>52179330
>I just bought DDR3
What's it like living under a rock?
>>52181523
>>52175657
>>52175635
>>52175544
>>52175412
>>52175330
>>52175238
>>52174200
>>52172688
amd is angling the 8 core zen at mainstream prices, and its replacing a 350$ sku.
this zen is also all cpu, no gpu, so its not wasting die space while intel's non e does. the die size could be comparable to a high end non e i7, and that would put it in the 300-400$ range.
>>52181665
AMD said they will be doing a 12-core zen which will be their competition for e i7s
>>52181543
nigga i just got 16gb of ddr2 for around 30$, nothing is ram bottlenecked outside of total space required, and my cpu is strong enough to not need an upgrade, could use definitely, but not need.
zen release date is my limit on waiting, if amd pulls this off, im going zen, if they dont, im going 6 core intel, possibly 8 core if its only 500$.
>>52172929
Is this what hype looks like?
I want Zen to be successful too...but
>>52181703
than anything below the 10 core i7 is now useless unless they price the 12 core to high, or fail spectacularly with their promised ipc.
>>52181707
Congrats on getting mad at companies for not holding back tech because you are poor.
It's good to know that even Intel will be forcing it.
>>52181717
no, amd at least as of last week (looks like something new was announced recently) the only sku they had was an 8 core 16 thread.
the 4 core apu rumors were also going around but those would hit after the 8 core zen.
>>52181729
You do realize very few people would be willing to drop $1000 just for a cpu.
Price/performance is just not there.
>>52175635
This is actually my hope, but its AMD and probably misplaced
>$300 8core zen
A 8-core bulldozer is a 4-core zen. The module is actually just rearranged and slimmed down a bit. Don't kid yourself if you think 8-core zens will be cheap.
>>52181776
oh no shit, but if you need the cpu or could use the cpu power, there's no way around it.
if intel places its 10 core at 1000$, and amd puts out a 12 core with promised ipc gains at even 950, amd would win price performance, amd is within 2-5% +- of haswell, intel's skylake was not a significant jump ahead of haswell, and no one is buying the 10 core intel or 12 core amd for single core, those two extra amd cores would run circles around intel's slight ipc gain.
>>52181810
how many die shrinks are we into with intel maintaining prices?
amd is jumping from 32nm 8 core 350 to a 16nm 8 core same sku range.
Top kek, all these AMD shills.
Once again AMD users are poorfags and will buy less power because >muh cheaper
Intel will remain more powerful and better.
>>52181881
AMDs current '8-core' are just 4 modules.
Zen would need 8 modules to be true 8-core.
It's not happening
>>52181909
amd dropped their bulldozer based architecture entirely, the overall map was released a while back of how the new one works
>>52181896
overall ipc, yea, intel will likely hold that advantage, however, when you go multithread, 8 cores and 16 threads... that's a massive step up from 4 cores and 8 threads, you wont have "this program decided to start up, so your game is now choppy" bullshit that you get with 4 or 6 cores, we already have benches showing why even if a 4 core is as good as an 8 core in frames, why the 8 core still outperforms it.
the "its cheaper" is just a bonus at this point.
>>52181958
I can already experience this with Intel's haswell-e.
AMD fags are just poorfags, just accept it.
>>52181991
yea, true, but i'm not willing to pay 1000$ for a cpu when my cpu isn't for making me money, but giving me pleasure.
>>52172627
Bigger than my thigh
>>52177477
I'm waiting for Zen so I can build a comfy PC.
>Zen CPU
>Radeon 400 series GPU
>8GB of DDR4 RAM
>comfy SSD
>>52181991
>AMD fags are just poorfags, just accept it.
Please avoid classism on /g/!
>>52182347
>falling for the ssd meme
>>52182391
"SSDs are a meme" is a meme.
My main rig has been Intel Enthusiast for ages - I have an X58 rig that still plays games and works well even all these years later. I have a X99 Haswell-E 8-core setup (5960X + Rampage V Extreme + 16gb DDR4) purchased last year that I need to install. I expect it to give great features and performance for years, especially with all the PCI-E lanes.
That said, I still think that Intel is generally unethical in some regards and I want to support AMD. I want to see the days of the Phenom II X4 and X6 Black Editions where you could get "almost as good as the highest end Intel Mainstream chip, for a lot less money". Likewise, I've hated watching the price for Intel procs ascend without any competition worthwhile. I don't knwo if Zen will BE any good, but I really hope that it ends up as such.
>>52172929
jesus christ no.
zen is going to be a 4 core, 8 thread cpu with ipc comparable to haswell at the price of the most current intel i5 chip vs the price of an i7,
that is installed on a board with all the modern sockets and stuff like ddr4, usb 3.1 etc
>>52182508
besides your ass where did you get that from, because we have slides from amd showing the only sku announced is a 8 core 16 thread that replaces the 350$ sku on desktop, where do they get the die space to do that at that cheap? they have no igpu.
>>52182508
no
>>52182601
>posting the faked, debunked screenshot
Pro-tip: There's no such thing as a dual-core Zen
>>52182759
You are this dumb
>>52174200
Because when it comes out, it should outperform the Intel sku that costs 2x the price. Of course, at that point Intel will have an even more expensive I've that blows both out of the water, but you could build two whole zen boxes for the price of that Intel CPU.
>>52182809
Look it up, that was faked by some German on a different forum
>AMDniggers don't even know when their materials were faked
>>52182906
>idiot actually thinks AMD won't do dual cores zen based chips
You actually are an idiot if you think AMD would actually just throw mobile market out the window.
>>52172623
Gay black people are the fucking BEST
>>52182925
>doesn't even understand how Zen's cores are designed
Naw nigga, you dumb
The only good thing AMD is doing is killing off dual-cores as a mainstream CPU
>>52182942
You clearly don't. You are actually the biggest retard i've seen this entire thread.
>>52182925
>>52182966
>>52182942
let's be fair, there will likely be 8 core, 6 core and 4 core cpus, but i can't imagine the yields being lower than 50% to make a dual core worth it.
the initial run is server space with desktop run over, after that we will get apus which will lop half the cpu away for a gpu, but dual core apus... why kill yourself when you don't have to, id let intel have the low end dual core market and make myself look better just by having higher numbers, remember this marked is largely not tech literate people, if they chose amd over intel it will be due to larger numbers.
>>52182889
no, its likely that intel will be slightly better when you have same core counts, just by virtue of a slight ipc jump, but even one more amd core would make amd the better choice, it all comes down to pricing.
>>52183131
When it comes to prebuilts and laptops it's largely due to how that manufacter markets it.
Right now every APU laptop is marketed as some shitty brick of a laptop while the Intel ones are front page top of the line laptops with lightweight features and blah blah blah.
AMD already lost these markets years ago.
>>52183201
>AMD already lost these markets years ago.
and its not looking to get any of them back, its also not looking at desktop growth either. they are looking at servers for their growth.
the res of the lines are literally byproducts till the apus come out.
>>52183231
Mental note, try to buy AMD servers to help save AMD.
Will AMD be coming out with any additional am1 socket processors?
>>52172623
what an incredible faggot.
>>52184574
AM1 is off in limbo, no one seems to know.
>>52172623
I'm fucking laughing so hard lmao.
