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I have been torrenting for probably a good 10 years now and have never used VPNs or taken extra precautions while doing so(I know, my fault). I've never been "caught" so I thought I was fine, until now. I downloaded a textbook from McGraw Hill off PirateBay and now they're emailing me saying they will try to get Cox to terminate my internet service. I looked it up and I don't think Cox will do anything unless there are multiple abuse reports that occur on my service.
Has anyone else had an experience with this?
Also, I want to start being more cautious while torrenting from now on. Is using TOR alone good enough to protect me from this kind of shit? Or do I need to do more than just torrent while using TOR?
Thanks for any advice.
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"Hey son, want to use this comcast to watch some funny movie with us?"
"No dad, I am going to my room to have fun with Cox now"
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>>52124189
"Cocks"
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>Is using TOR alone good enough to protect me from this kind of shit?
don't do that

just buy vpn (or if you only care about torrenting, just proxy) access, it's usually like $20 for a year subscription
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>>52124189
You cannot seriously have an ISP named cox?
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>>52124189
just ignore that email. they're just trying to scare you. stay away from piratebay.
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>>52124189
Torrenting through TOR is nonsense. It defeats the whole purpose of using the TOR network.
What you might want to think about is how those guys got your E-Mail adress. I don't think they found it, I'm pretty sure you gave it to them somehow.
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>>52124278
yup, it's 4 real
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I don't believe cable providers want to terminate your service. If they receive enough complaints i think they will though.

I'd advise you to lay low for a while and then think about getting a proxy or vpn like the other anon said.
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>Textbook company McGraw Hill

why would any ISP kneel to something so retarded. you downloaded a book.
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>>52124189
Send McGraw hill an email with your lawyer's letter head, you do have a lawyer on retainer right?
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>>52124189
Send a fake mail delivery error
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>>52124322

Some years ago I downloaded desktop wallpapers from a blog then sent video recording of me doing it to the owner of the blog. Lo and behold, the blog owner came at me with all her wrath. I knew she would hate it. On her blog she had "DO NOT DOWNLOAD WITHOUT MY PERMISSIOM. SEND EMAIL TO ASK. AND REMEMBER TO SAY THANK YOU AND ALSO DO NOT REMOVE WATERMARK"

I removed the watermark. She ended up getting a solicitor and all and even some silly court date but apparently the court threw it out the window. My ISP also contacted me just to state that some copyright holder is sending in alot of emails about me.

I recently moved into her area. I've thought about making bumper stickers out of the wallpapers and just sitting in front of the grocery store all day until she sees it.
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>>52124529
this
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Cox shut off my internet for downloading something (forget what) until I called and talked to their "internet security team." Told them I stopped sharing the torrent and they said that if it happened 2 more times they'd terminate my service. I doubt they'd actually terminate, but having to call them was a pain, especially since it took a couple attempts before I was able to get to a real human.
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>>52124534
What fucking blog was that? Link
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>>52124534
Go to /b/ and post an an hero thread.
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Don't torrent over tor. Never.
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Don't use tor you stupid piece of shit. That's not what tor is for
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>>52124189
Lmao nigger they won't do anything. Your ISP will not terminate your service because a content provider bitches at them, they have no legal obligation to do so.
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>>52124663
why?
(i'm not op, just curious?)
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If you are not living in murrica, you are okay.
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>>52124764
TOR bandwidth is already limited, the fact is also that it does not help secure your connection.
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>>52124764
It devours bandwidth and fucks everybody over.
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How the fuck did they find your email?

If you use TPB and pirate things from big companies, you should expect to get caught eventually. That's why you use a VPN.
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>>52124764
using bandwidth is one thing, but forcing dozens of connections through something that requires dozens of connections per connection is a real dick move.
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>>52124281
TOP
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>>52124189
TOR won't help you.
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>>52124785
It can secure your connection if you do it right. You can set your computer up so ALL traffic is routed through Tor.

If someone is investigating your specifically that won't keep you safe at all, but it will keep you safe from companies sending blanket complaints to all peers.
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https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea
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I used to get a "warning" email every few months. They never acted on it. Then, I stopped seeding. I know, I know - it's a dick thing, but since I stopped seeding, the emails have vanished.
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>>52125158
thank you sir
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I've received one of these letter s before. I just ignored it and was fine.

one time my isp called and threatened to cut my net off for downloading too much ( I had downloaded like 800GB that month) but I just played dumb and they assumed my computer got a virus and I promised to fix it
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>>52125158
>using only private trackers
>not a solution
This is retarded
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>>52127596
I've gotten ONE notice for downloading a movie through TorrentLeech (a private tracker) way back in the day. It's possible, but extremely unlikely.
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>>52124189
Just rent a seedbox you pleb. Aggregate your torrent traffic there and download direct safely via sftp
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They have a 6 offense policy, you won't be in trouble with them. COX won't stop your service, but you may get a warning letter from COX. Textbooks, and Porn rae probably #1 and #2 most monitored by dmca trolls.
POints:
You're safe on your internet connection
You very well may have issues with the textbook company as they clearly were able to find you as a person, and they can be pricks about this stuff. In fact they don't even care, they sell your case to companies that will come after you forever. Its annoying, but there are many ways out of it, just be smart.
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>>52124189
> using TOR to download gigs of contents
Enjoy being red flagged by the NSA
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>>52124278
Cox Cable is a pretty big provider.

Per Wikipedia
>It is the third-largest cable television provider in the United States,[1] serving more than 6.2 million customers, including 2.9 million digital cable subscribers, 3.5 million Internet subscribers,[2] and almost 3.2 million digital telephone subscribers, making it the seventh-largest telephone carrier in the country.[3]
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>>52128049
If you set up a relay they won't know if you're downloading or transferring. Unless you're torrenting, that would de-anonamize you.
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>>52128152
You still have to connect to the network. That's what flags you. I would imagine a simple proxy from Russia or something would fix that.
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>>52124189
Cox is/was on your side, but got fucked by a biased judge recently.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/rightscorp-wins-landmark-ruling-cox-hit-with-25m-verdict-in-copyright-case/

Same judge they're trying to haul Kim Dotcom in front of.
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>>52128150
>3.5 millions subscribers
>USA
That's not big
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>>52124189
Just ignore them and get a VPN.
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>>52124189
>PirateBay
>not on private trackers

if you weren't on private trackers then you would not have received the email
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>>52124220
This tripfag isn't particularly funny.
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I have had Cox since 2004. I've probably received a dozen DMCA notices. They disconnect your interbutz and you have to call cox support and tell them you've stopped the torrent to get your interbutz back. That's seriously it every time.
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>>52124189
Nebraska bro here who uses COX. I've been downloading for 6 years (as long as ive lived here). And i got an email after downloading season 1-5 of mad men several years ago.


email said something along the lines of We received word from the maklers of Mad men they know you illegally downloaded it blah blah blah. please remove it from your computer. and thats it.

Then last year i downloaded all the season of Game of Thrones and got the same exact email from COX saying that HBO contacted them and they told me the same thing. So two emails in six years and i still have cox and havent used a vpn yet.
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>>52124220

Why would a family have two ISPs in the same house?
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Cox normally doesn't care unless you're a massive abuser going over your caps constantly and getting multiple abuse emails from copyright.

And yes, cox does have data caps and lately they have been enforcing them by sending spam emails for those that just go over by an extra 100gb worth by telling people to upgrade to a higher tier that offers a larger cap. Preferred iirc has a 350gb cap, premier has a 750gb cap, and gigablast and ultimate has a 2tb cap. Iirc all those on ultimate will get turned into gigablast once gigablast reaches your area.

The latest ruling, unless cox can appeal, might make them crack down even harder.
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>>52128231

Third largest is third largest.
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>>52124189
How the fuck did they get your email address?
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>>52128345
Aus' ISP I use throws any notices into the bin.
If it isn't from an Australian court they don't give a fuck.

I have no idea how many times a DCMA notice has been sent to me.
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>>52125158
>Burden of proof is on you

Fuck off
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How long does it generally take to get notified that you've been caught?
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>>52128576

Some people do have that.
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>>52124278
It's real and it's really common around here. It's actually a pretty good ISP
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>>52124534
HOW DARE YOU BRAG ABOUT THIS ON THE INTERNET1 WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU???
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>>52124764
Tor is TCP only. All your torrent related UDP traffic would exit through your regular IP.
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>>52124886
No Harry, you can't.
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>>52124189
How did they get your e-mail if they haven't already contacted your ISP?
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>>52124764
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea

That is why. P2P apps not designed to use anonymity networks drop IP addresses everywhere and leak your identity while using 4 times the bandwidth to proxy your traffic.

I2P has an app actually designed for it, and an architecture that supports it better (although still not well, I'm working on the next-gen successor). Tor is flat-out not designed for it.

Use Tor for web browsing, but not torrents.

If you only want privacy from your ISP, and want to disassociate your identity from an attacker who isn't a nation-state, like OP, use a VPN like OpenVPN and any of the various providers (Mullvad, IPredator, etc etc etc) that don't log and are routinely fine with this.

Or, you know, you could also buy books.
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>>52132813
Have you gone public with your project?
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this thread spooped me because I have cocks and regularly torrent am I safe?
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>>52133161
Depends who you "steel" from.
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>>52133184
I steel obscure Japanese indie games and outdated adobe products.
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>>52132813
>If you only want privacy from your ISP, and want to disassociate your identity from an attacker who isn't a nation-state, like OP, use a VPN like OpenVPN and any of the various providers (Mullvad, IPredator, etc etc etc) that don't log and are routinely fine with this.
Is there any single VPN that isn't blocked from posting in 4chan? Yeah no.

Sorry anon, you're not going to win me over.
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>>52124189
Cox does not give a fuck to the point that BMG and Round Hill have sued them over it, trying to strip them of "safe harbor" protections. If you are genuinely concerned, just get a VPN.
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lol at the ISPs that give a fuck
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>>52124189
They won't do shit with just one warning.

Get a VPN service (a paid one), then just pirate away.

>>52133240
Are you retarded? You don't have to torrent and 4chan on the same machine. Even if you only have one computer you can run a VM and run your torrent client over the VPN in that.
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>>52124534
I was gonna write you a "you're an idiot" reply, then I finished reading. Actually a pretty funny story, you should do that.
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>>52124534
Post those wallpaper.
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>>52124189
They have no proof YOU did it.
Just your IP.

Your ISP doesn't give a shit.
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>>52133413
they're PAID to give a fuck.
Either they share an income stream with media companies, or they get paid to give a shit.
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>>52133101
No. Currently iterating designs in peer review.

People's lives rely on anonymity protocols. Like my previous projects, I don't want it to be trusted until the technology is trustworthy: not myself, so I will release under a new nym.
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>>52134568
Are you Jrandom?
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this must be a meme thread to get saps to buy vpn accounts
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>>52134568
When can we know that your project will be released in public?
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>>52124189
>I downloaded a textbook from McGraw Hill off PirateBay and now they're emailing me saying they will try to get Cox to terminate my internet service
How did they get your email address?
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>>52138158
Ask your mom, she provided an email address when she had the internet connected.
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>itt idiots
>zomg how they get ops email?
It's called a subpoena. The IP owner's legal representative legally requests the ISP for contact info of the offending pirate via a DMCA complaint.
>use VPN durr
Won't help that OP is an idiot to use public torrent servers. Especially seedboxes. They forbid the use of public trackers due to obvious reasons of DMCA complaints.
>whut do now to avoid being spotted?
If you are too lazy to pay for a private VPN and use private channels to download stuff then use public wifi hotspots and rotate them so that you aren't at the same spot. This makes it not possible to peg you with DMCA complaints because of obviously framing random coffee shop/mall/business of a complaint. Smart IT admins will make it hard to torrent though using their public wifi spots.
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