>Order new parts
>Try old CPU cooler
>Doesn't fit, oh well, stock it is
>Realize that Intel no longer includes a stock cooler
>Mfw
Cooling thread?
>buying a cpu without stock cooler included
cuck
intel didnt even lower price on their cpu despite cutting cost on heatsink
>>52088122
what cooler are you using that doesn't support LGA 1151? Coolers that fit Lga 1155 also support 1156, 1150, and 1151 usually.
I'm using pic related. Thermaltake Frio Extreme but I replaced the stock fans with Cooler Master Jetflo PWM. Better, quieter, less ugly. Kept and FX-9370 at 4.8ghz under control and is currently cooling my i5-4690k @ 4.4ghz nice and frosty.
>>52088167
>Jews
>Lower price
Pick one
>>52088190
0,10$ have been sent to your paypal account.
>>52088190
It's an LGA 1366 heatsink.
>>52088167
intel is getting worse and worse with their jewing. Thinner wafers resulting in chips with bent corners
Now no stock cooler
I mean if they knocked the price down $20 then I don't think I'd mind, but as a consumer you're paying an additional what? $40-$50 for an unlocked chip? What If I were building this and then was still waiting on my good cooler from newegg or Amazon? Horseshit.
my i5-6600 came with stock cooler, maybe it's just non K version stuff.
>>52088228
what are you on about? $0.10 for what? Honestly think I'm shilling? My post had shit about intel, Thermaltake, Cooler Master, and AMD all in one post. So who exactly am I shilling for?
>>52088229
well that would explain it then. LGA 1366 was kind of a one off type thing. Look up your cooler on the manufacturer website. They may offer brackets to fit new sockets. That's if your cooler is really worth it to you that is. Otherwise just buy something new. Had any coolers in mind?
What are some cheap /g/ approved coolers?
>>52088236
it is. K models don't get a stock cooler because intel figures you're buying their K model specifically to use a better cooler and overclock which is true 90% of the time, but regardless, a stock cooler should be included.
Corsair hyper 212 EVO.
Supports a shit ton of amd and Intel sockets. Just switched from an a10 5800k to an i5 4690k and it still works great.
>>52088310
>but regardless, a stock cooler should be included.
why so?
waste of aluminium and copper
>>52088167
They actually raised prices. Skylake is far more expensive than even Devil's Canyon was.
>>52088291
212 EVO -$30
>>52088291
Hyper 212 EVO
>inB4 meme cooler
The 212 EVO is one of the best price:performance coolers that is available in mainstream stores. I think even best buy has them now. They're like $35-$40. Fit just about any socket.
There are some coolers around the same price range from like Zalmann and Thermaltake that will perform a bit better such as pic related, but they're less well known and thus usually only available online.
Zalman CNPS10X Optima - $40
212 Evo if you don't want to spend a lot of money. It's by far the best bang for buck. It's not perfect, people say it's silent but I would say it's "moderately" loud. Certainly much quieter than my stock AMD cooler, but still louder than my D14. I have sensitive hearing, though, so the noise probably won't bother you as much.
>>52088342
because you're paying an additional $40-$50 as it is just for the K series chip. No everyone overclocks either. Some people buy K series chips and just stick them in H97/H170 non overclocking chipset motherboards simply because the K series have the fastest stock and boost clocks. Also it is the principal of the thing too. Not only am I paying extra for intel to just allow overclocking, I'm FORCED to buy an aftermarket cooler from the get go.
For instance my buddy always bought unlocked models but used the stock cooler because it cooled well enough for stock speeds. The only time he ever bought aftermarket was if he felt the need to overclock. Like a month ago he bought a Hyper 212 EVO to overclock his 2600k because he wanted better encoding performance out of it.
>>52088441
then your friend is a dipshit since the K shitters are usually select bins and lack useful features like VT-d.
>>52088597
hey I said the same thing to him but whatever. Fringe case or not, how much do you think intel really spends on those heatsinks? They produce them in bulk so what? Couple bucks maybe? How intel does business is just a kick in the teeth to everyone. Price of chips go up, quality of chips goes down (Haswell thermal paste cracking, Skylake's thinner wafers and lack of coolers), and everyone just keeps swallowing intel's load without a word.
I'm not saying "OMG run out and buy AMD, they'll save us!" but it's like everyone sees what is going on and not a single person, reviewer, or anything has a bad word to say towards intel.
Perfect example of "money talks" but holy shit.
>>52088232
They've got employees with families to feed and stockholders to keep happy. Stop being so cheap or buy a fucking AMD or something. You likely don't even need a new CPU.
>>52088122
>almost 2016
>still using a cooler
:^)))))
>>52088229
You could always use the upgraded pipe/fin cooler from a dell t3500. I rubber-banded a 92mm arctic fan to one and it keeps an x5570 at 25 degrees.
>>52088122
I used a g3240 with no heatsink or cooler for a week.
>buy ddr3 ram
>plan to buy skylake cpu
>it needs ddr4
FUCK
>>52088333
corsair?
>>>/lgbt/
>Buy something
>Don't read what it comes with
???
>>52088291
Cryorig H7
>>52095017
>not using pcpartpicker
why even live
>>52088122
K models don't have it because literally anybody who buys a K model would throw it in the trash. The normie ones have coolers.
>>52095017
>not knowing beforehand
>>52095555
check 'em
>>52088122
The cooler they designed for Skylake is better than the LGA1150 one but it still uses push-pins and costs more than a 212 Evo. I can't justify it unless you don't have room for a big heatsink. I would even recommend getting a backplate & screws kit for use with a stock cooler since it provides improved cooling from better contact pressure. You can find the spring screws and backplates for $6-8 on ebay.
>>52088232
waaa...this company invents things that completely transform my world and make my life easy...waaa... but what if I had to wait for something....waaaaaa...I hate them, I hate them
>>52095725
>>52095555
Nice quads
>>52088375
The Hyper 212 series has one of the most annoying mounting systems I've ever experienced. Whoever decided that shit was a good idea deserves a slap in the face.
I'm getting a Noctua cooler next upgrade, because fuck that shit.
>tfw bought a 6600k, dont know how to OC and dont plan to
>>52095017
>grab deal on 4790k
>non-K 6700s start dropping to normal prices right after
>they can be OCed now too
FUCK
>>52096105
It was tedius putting my 212 evo on I agree, but I made sure to set the center screw tension just right otherwise you run into the arms 'popping' loose apart from the X position while trying to tighten the corners, or being too tight to get them down. I think the installed tension is something like 35lbs. It works well though for $20.
>>52088122
>letting yourself be cucked by intel
you deserve it.
About to build my first PC, is it even worth getting a K if I'm never going to overclock probably? Like is the i5 6500/6600 good enough? What about that i5 6400? It's like 2.7Ghz lol, the 6500/6600 are like 3.2/3.3.
All I'll be doing is counter strike, some gunz the duel, and some really low end games, and only on 1080p 60hz, and then a bunch of programming and excel shit for school
If I get the 6500/6600 its like saving $120
>>52096422
You're going to overclock. It takes zero effort and gives free performance. If you aren't going to do that, then get an older cpu that isn't a skylake and save even more money since that will be just as fast.
>>52096445
If I overclock, is the performance gains worth $120? Also an older i5, you mean like 4690? Or 4690k?
>>52096467
You could buy a 4690k and be good for years, especially if overclocked. Then you save money on RAM and motherboard too.
For what you said you really don't need anything fast.
>>52096476
Yeah the i5 6500 is $260 and i5 4690k is $280
Also i5 4690k comes with stock cooler right?
>>52096486
I believe so, yes. But you should buy a 212 evo cooler.
>>52096422
non-K chips can OC now if you get a Z170 board, so you can save a bit of cash while still getting 6600k performance. Z170 boards are cheap anyway, so there's no real reason not to go for it.
You go for a 6400 and a Z170 board, and you get the overclockability of the 6600k along with some extra cash.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-locked-intel-cpus-can-now-be-overclocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfTcXQlsbs
>>52096422
Overclocking is a meme.
Don't listen to this guy:
>>52096445
When he says 'free performance' he means
'performance you pay extra for'. Higher end motherboard, third party cooling, 'k' version premium, it adds up to you getting jewed.
OC hasn't been free performance since 2009.
>>52096476
Also i7 4790k is $390, and i5 6500k is $352 for me... So I could get an i7 4790k even
(Budget would allow it) but do you think it's worth it? i7 4790k looks like it'll last way longer than i5 4690k and I could probably build a good system then for programming
>>52096513
i5 6600k I mean, fuck
Which would be a better system to build now, a DDR3 i7 4790k, or a DDR4 i5 6600k?
>>52096505
>>52096494
>>52096494
>>52096490
>>52096486
>>52096476
>OC hasn't been free performance since 2009.
why don't you cucklords just get AMD? cheaper, top to bottom overclockable on AM3+, little real-life performance difference.
>>52096505
If you're buying a locked processor you're a broke fuckboy that has no business building a computer.
OCing is absolutely free performance, no matter how much you want to deny it.
>>52096513
Yeah, that would be a good plan for that price. Overlcock that baby and it will be faster than 90% of peoples computers on this board. Ignore >>52096505 since he thinks things that are talked about commonly in tech are "memes"
>>52096422
I got a non-K 4690 because at the time it was $15 cheaper. If you go for the 6600 here's a brand new one without a cooler (if you don't need it) for $209
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-6600-6M-Skylake-Quad-Core-3-3-GHz-LGA-1151-Read-Description-/141861251169
And if you need a cooler you can grab one like a 212 Evo for $20-30. Skylake prices went up $20 recently, black friday really was the best time for them.
>>52096550
Now question is which would give better performance, if OCing both, i7 4790K for $390, or i5 6600k for $352 + $30 cooler = $382/$390
So... Basically DDR4 vs DDR3, Z170 vs Z97 I think old one was
>>52096422
>>52096445
>>52096467
>>52096476
>>52096486
>>52096505
>>52096513
>>52096534
>>52096550
THERE'S NO REASON TO GET A 6600K RIGHT NOW
YOU CAN GET A 6400 NON-K AND OVERCLOCK IT TO 6600K LEVELS FOR THE EXACT SAME PERFORMANCE
READ YOU NIGGERS
READ
http://www.techspot.com/review/1108-intel-locked-skylake-cpu-bclk-overclocking/
http://techreport.com/news/29438/asrock-turns-on-z170-overclocking-for-locked-skylake-cpus
http://hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/88898-locked-skylake-cpus-can-overclocked-bios-update/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asrock-enables-skylake-overclocking-sending-budget-chips-stratosphere/
And it's not just Asrock. Asus, MSI and >Biostar all support it now, and I'm pretty fucking sure Gigabyte does now too.
ALSO IT'D BE CHEAPER THAN GOING UNLOCKED HASWELL WHILE ENDING UP FASTER
>>52096602
Except thats a shit way to overclock. Just get a real processor and real motherboard. Not that difficult.
>>52096597
i7 would be faster, ddr3/4 makes literally no difference in real usage.
>>52096621
>real
>real
that's autismal. it exists and you can't stop it.
>>52096637
Not me, but intel can and will :)
Spend the extra $20 and don't nigger rig your computer like some broke fucktard. If you can't afford to build the computer right, you can't afford to build one.
>>52096494
OCing an i3 4130?
>MSI quickly followed suit, allowing us to upgrade the MSI Gaming Z170A Gaming M5 we have in the office. Very quickly, we had our Core i3 4130 running at 4.44GHz, and buoyed by this result, we purchased a Core i5 6500 quad-core chip and managed to push it to 4.5GHz up from its stock 3.2GHz clock-speed. This is hardcore.
AMD is better then Intel.
>>52096688
At being slower and using twice as much power, yes.
>>52096665
How does anyone know this won't kill those processors quicker? Is it all just a coin toss?
GTX960 vs R9 380? 2GB DDR5 both.
(Just very simple gaming, csgo stuff and homework)
Which is better?
>>52096621
BCLK ocing is simple as fuck. The only thing you'd have to remotely worry about is ram stability, but that's easy as shit to manage.
Literally no reason to spend the extra hundred or so dollars on the unlocked chips, especially with the shortages driving up unlocked Skylake prices.
It'd be cheaper and, if your focus is gaming, it'd be faster than spending all that extra money on the 4790k.
The only reason I even ordered my 4790k is because I already had a motherboard on hand and found it for $226.
>>52096665
Pretty sure that's a typo.
>>52096705
There's practically nothing structurally different from the chips. The unlocked ones are just binned higher in most cases.
>>52088122
Just pour distilled water on it. Cheaper than an engineered cooler and more effective.
Don't use tap water. The minerals will short out the board. Distilled water is fine though.
960 all the way
It has better streamers for streaming pron
>>52096752
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/62vZhM
960 in that one?
>>52096736
No K = you're a poorfag
6700k master race
>>52096785
6700k vs 5820k? Why'd you pick quad core vs hexacore?
>>52096724
380 is better, but the difference is less than 5% in most games
>>52096814
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/62vZhM
Thoughts on that build?
>buy 6600k
>Hyper 212 Evo
>don't want to overclock yet because i like seeing my temps never go over 40C
>>52096785
6700Ks are reaching five fucking hundred dollars because of the shortages. In some places they're almost $700.
Unless you have a Microcenter nearby, it's almost cheaper to buy a 5820k AND an X99 motherboard together for cheaper than a 6700k BY ITSELF.
At that point there's no reason to buy one. Non-K 6700s are steadily reaching their original prices, and now that they can be OCed there's even less of a reason to get an unlocked one unless you piss dimes and shit out gold bars.
>>52096770
No this one
https://bad-dragon.com/images/inventorytoys/ChanceUnflaredOnyxBlack_stock.JPG
>>52096828
>another canadian
it looks fine, nothing stands out as being bad. Corsair PSUs, barring their top end ones, aren't the most reliable, but I'm not sure on the CX specifically. I'd recommend saving up another $150 and getting a 390. a 380 will play most games at 1080p 60fps, but if that's all you're aiming for, you can probably drop the quad core and get a dual core or an AMD processor. your cpu will last 5 years, whereas your gpu may last 2. that's just my opinion though.
>>52096855
pooooooooooooooorfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
>>52096855
You'd be an idiot to pay that. I bought mine at frys for $375.
>>52096798
Wanted the new shit. I'd rather have faster single thread than more cores.
>>52096883
>Canada is no more, it died on October 19th 2015, rip Canada
My budget is honestly like $2000 Canadian lol, but just want to see how much I really need, I could buy an R9 390X or FuryX if I need and even get the Z170+i56600k
But idk if I will ever use it...
How long would a FuryX or 390X with i5 660k last me?
>>52096972
6600k
>>52096972
6500 and a Z170 board.
6400 for $271
6500 for $295
6600 for $335
6600K for $358
6700 for $459
6700K for $525
This is all in Kangaroo bucks ($1 is worth 73 Burger cents) and also including our taxes
Which is the best deal?
>>52096968
AMD card generally tend to last a bit longer than Nvidia (see: 7970 vs 680, 290x vs 780, etc), so a 390x should last a few years. that being said, Pascal is being released soon, so what I'd do is probably get a $200-250 card now (either used or new) and then if you find it's not fast enough, get a new one when Pascal is released. I wouldn't be surprised if the new 960 equivalent (X60 or something) is close to a 970 at the $275 price point
>at 1080p
I'd guess 2 years for 380, 4 years for 390x. you're better off with a 980ti than a furyx, though
>>52088716
Employees get a set salary and whoever is designer for something new doesnt have the patent for it, intel and the corporate jews keep that crap, so really you blindly wasting money like a retard is just giving them more reason to overprice crap
>>52096964
Lucky you. Me and quite a few people I'm sure, dont have the luxury of a local frys or microcenter.
Hell, all of Fry's Skylake shit is out of stock aside from local pickup at one location, so I'm guessing you bought one before the shortage started.
Skylake prices are getting hit almost as bad as AMD chips during the mining craze last year.
>>52096985
>>52096990
Thanks sorry for deleting my post, I messed up the currency exchange
I'm kinda leaning towards the 6600K, I know that you can overclock even the non-K these days, but its not even $100 more to get the K over the others. Would it be so that the 6600K would have more OC headroom over the 6400? Particularly as you can change the multiplier?
>tfw 2500k at 4.4ghz
highest stable clock I've hit is 4.7, but that was in the summer
new fans+open window, gonna go for 4.8 and maybe try 5 tomorrow. wish me luck guys.
>>52088122
weird. my friends i5 came with a stock cooler.
I'm running a dark rock 3 from be quiet.
>positives
looks amazing
extremely quiet
>negatives
shitty install method
I would also recommend the be quiet! Pure rock, the cryorig h5 ultimate, and the deepcool s40
>>52097067
> Would it be so that the 6600K would have more OC headroom over the 6400?
Not really unless you plan on extreme competitive OCing with nitrogen and shit.
For stable 24/7 OCs they'd hit around the same and perform the same. It'd be a little easier with the 6600k but thanks to the shortages it's really not worth that extra $100.
It's not supposed to be a $100 difference anyway. The huge gap is due to all this price hiking, which has only been getting worse.
>>52097102
>For stable 24/7 OCs they'd hit around the same and perform the same
That's interesting to know
>It's not supposed to be a $100 difference anyway
Well between the 6400 and 6600K its $87
Between the 6600 and 6600K its $23
>>52097033
Man ifI build a 980Ti system, that's like $2k, but then I add the monitor, and 1080p 60hz seems like a waste for 980Ti, so I should probably get a 144hz 25601440 monitor. Which is like 700 (MG279Q) and then. It's only $300 more until 3k, so why not get 32gb of ram instead of 16
Fuck it becomes so easy to spend so much
>>52097162
>>52097033
Also, why is 980Ti better than FuryX?
>>52097160
Then that 6600 has a $30 hike over MSRP in ausbucks.
>>52097190
Better performance in the majority of titles as well as better overclockablity AND many more cooler options for the exact same price. If the Fury X was cheaper it'd be a much better buy than the 980 Ti.
But Lisa Su is a retard AMD shot itself in the foot with its pricing scheme.
>>52097049
Skylake was cheap as Haswell onsale from black friday to Dec 5th. After that suddenly there was shortages and $20-70 premiums leading up to current. I almost got a 6600K for $220 from my Frys but had already committed to a 4690K build a week prior. Got anxious because I didn't even expect Skylake to have any price discounts and benchmarks were reporting equal-to-better performance by around 10% from initial samples. For $350 on Dec 2nd you could have an Z170 with two PCIe 3.0 16x slots, 6600K and 8gb DDR4. But now that's a dream.
>>52097162
yeah that's a legitimate concern. set your budget and stick to it, but just be aware that doubling your gpu budget ($200 to $400) will only add $200 overall to your total price (15% increase), but your performance may increase 50%
>>52097190
hbm is still new and not perfect, so there's early adopter fees with it. 980ti has better drivers, overclocking, and designs so you can match it to your system, whereas the furyx is only one design
>>52097249
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/G3KhCJ
How's that then? Would last me a while? 4 years?
>>52097222
>Then that 6600 has a $30 hike over MSRP in ausbucks.
The interesting this is that the price of Skylake CPUs in Kangaroo land hasn't really changed much at all since it was launched. I haven't seen this shortage phenomenon that people keep talking about.
Does anyone have a good graph of the overclocking differences for Intel 6400, 6500 and 6600 please?
>>52097336
Holy mother of God
Does the speed of RAM you have allow you to overclock your CPU better? Like 2133 ddr4 vs 3200 ddr4, does RAM have any effect at all? Is it worth paying the extra $50 for 3200 over 2133?
>>52097336
>6700k's are $500+
Intel really has no shame huh?
>>52097416
Canadian dollarydoos breh, 512 = like $380 USD or some shit
Fuck canacuckada
>>52097443
Ah, that makes more sense
>>52095312
im about to order a cryorig h7 cuz fuck the meme cm cooler
but then i see
>first from ASIA
is it one of those items that take 1 month to get here?
im waiting for the 4690k to on sale but im nearing my patience limit...
what the fuck should i do... i might want to OC in the future but by then who knows
fucking 4th gen cards are even higher prices than 5th gen
this is fucking retarded to have to shell out 240$ for a 4690k
>>52097457
Do you think the Sapphire R9 390X is bad? It's like $70 less than the Gigabyte one... So that's like $140 less for both
I like the Gigabyte one cuz it has the Windforce LED but for $140 I could get LEDs for my entire driveway, house, and car...
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/pj38f7
>>52097507
Sapphire was largely considered to be the best 3rd party for AMD in the 2XX generation. Given that the 3XX generation is just a rebrand of the 2XX cards, I really doubt anything has changed
>>52088342
I like to keep it for diagnostics. Good for getting a base line
>>52097462
Yeah it takes like 15 days to reach the west coast, 20 if you're on the east. I wouldn't even expect it to leave China until January 4th because of the business/federal holidays.
>>52097416
>>52097443
That's $500 USD, not CAD.
And it's retailers hiking the prices, not Intel. Same thing happened with AMD last year.
View this price history.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k
>>52097535
Scratch that first sentence. The rest holds true though. If anything, they're even more expensive here in the states.
>>52097535
Wat its 512 cad
Not USD
>pic very related
CA.pcpartpicker.com
>>52096865
>unflared
Pleb.
>>52097557
Sheeeeeit nvm lol
>>52097520
Personally I prefer powercolor.
They're just as good, if not better, and quite a bit cheaper too.
They're also not afraid to try new and extreme ideas like an overclocked air cooled r9 295x2
>>52097591
what the fuck is that abomination
>>52097535
>>52097591
Those impellers are cool
>>52097598
>4 8 pin power connectors
What are you, a pussy?
>>52097598
>he's never seen a dual GPU card before
>>52097602
Fucking outletPC
>>52096422
>All I'll be doing is counter strike, some gunz the duel, and some really low end games, and only on 1080p 60hz,
get a pentium
>>52097190
it's faster. what kind of a question is that?
>>52096422
Get a skylake i3 and overclock it.
It'll get pretty close to i5 performance for almost half the price.
Except for when you factor in the price of the motherboard. But we're not going to do that.
>>52097534
actually in amazon it looks like it they have it in california so fast delivery
>>52088190
>Thermalfake
Kill self plz.
