>Ban encryption
>'I don't know enough about the technology'
>>51991721
Presidency is stupid as shit. We shouldn't have a supreme ruler of the country, but instead just have different people in charge of different things based on their ability. Democracy is literally cancer.
>>51991721
It's not about technology, anon. It's yet another step towards taking away your rights. The State does not want any walls between you and them.
>>51991840
That makes too much sense to work.
You can pry RSA from my cold dead interpreter
>>51991840
Ministry systems are very prone to corruption, although the idea sounds wonderful.
>>51991895
As opposed to democracies which are only prone to the stupidity of the common man.
>>51991895
Better than have one guy holding all the power and nominating his ministers however he wants
Algo there are many countries that run extremely well without presidents. See Japan.
Amerifats
>>51991938
>Algo there are many countries that run extremely well without presidents. See Japan.
Japan runs like shit it's just hard to notice unless you live there.
its funny how OP is trying to talk about LE LIBURALS XD when basically every republican has the same stance and is in favor of the nsa stuff and more
>>51992470
I do not live there, but they seem to be doing well.
>>51991979
I don't understand why people don't vote instead of just voting for a 3rd party to change things.
>ban encryption because I was too stupid to use it properly
>>51992507
Both parties are shit. Parties in general are stupid.
>>51992518
Their low crime rate is due to crime being underreported and shizo Abe suggesting that they should have their own military caused a shitstorm.
>>51991840
I tried to write a theroy of this, but the main issue was avoiding things like familial lines dominating certian fields and leading back to a basic monarchy.
also, chosing who would be the head of x ministery.
>>51992529
You overestimate the average American's intelligence. I literally asked one of my co workers why she's voting Clinton and her answer was "Because she's a woman." then I asked about her policies and she got angry and called me a trump supporter even though I rank him just under dogshit on my presidential preference list.
>>51991840
And who gets to determine who fills what role? Before you know it that meritocracy turns into the same popularity contest bullshit.
>>51992590
There's nothing wrong with a family dominating a certain field as long as they're actually competent at it. The candidates could be chosen based on general renown in their field or a test developed by their branch and then from there be elected ONLY by members of their own branch and not just any stupidass who thinks that they know something.
>>51992624
You're right I should just kill myself instead.
>>51992624
Not him, but we should have some well-crafted, free as in freedom software subject to regular audits by randomly selected independent agencies to determine the most qualified candidates for X position based on Y. Obviously, only people who want to run would be in the system.
>but what if the person who gets elected goes corrupt
At least they'll get booted when the next cycle comes around.
>>51992630
in theory the best was was to allow the best of a sector (eg. buisness) to take all the heads of a that sector and vote amongst themself for who would take the seat but when doing anything outside this area or something that was national it still required the vote of all other heads of sectors.
It seemed complicated on the face of it but was alright in theory due to the sectors being run more efficently and not hindered with out the say so of many other (generally a 2/3 vote from all other sector leader) to stop an action. the main idea was let the best of each do what they do and just keep it open for everyone else to say why it would be a bad idea.
>>51992710
this did however let wide spread corrution go with out most checks and was a major issue in the design until a designated de facto leader was given the ability for tie breaking votes and veto power.
There was a lot more to it but I dont remember most of it. I think i still have the paper somewhere though.
>captcha
>wheelchairs
>>51992594
THIS, it's like when Obama got elected from niggers because he'd be the 1st black president.
>you will soon go to jail for utilizing illegal mathematics
>>51992529
Because the way out government is set up, voting for a third party is tantamount to throwing your vote away.
>>51992594
> I rank him just under dogshit on my presidential preference list.
What I'm getting from this is in this race, Trump is still your top contender. If only we could have a pile of dogshit run for office, I'd vote for it over pretty much anyone in this race. Give a whole new meaning to caca-ses.
>>51992529
Because most American voters are disenfranchised with the system, and would rather attend their kid's peewee soccer or football game than go cast a ballot for what they already know is just >>51991979's pic.
If voting was a national holiday you can bet your ass there'd be a better turnout
>>51992839
>DNC rewarding hitlary for backing down last election. Dems will vote for whoever has the least sincere smile.
>RNC trying hard to push Bush but the electorate aren't gaming for it. GOP will vote for whoever had the best hair
Truly this country is ruined
>>51992840
>>51992871
What about Bernie? I am not into politics, but he is popular... online. Or is he going to get RonPauled as well?
>>51992871
Falling, not gaming you stupid mobile keyboard
>>51992886
He's already Ron pauled. Hilary is implicated in leaking state secrets via her own personal email server, is shown to be directly responsible for Benghazi, and has decades of history being a massive elitist corporate coksucking whorish cunt, and yet she STILL had the polls because she's a woman.
>>51992914
I wish women would suck more cock
>>51992594
It's funny that the only reason Hillary is a contender is because of a man she married who cheated on her while he was president. Without being married to Bill it's unlikely that she would even be involved in politics at this point. She represents 3rd wave feminism perfectly.
>>51992942
... that picture... Replace code with sweep and computer scientist with janitor and it makes just as much fucking sense. Sheesh
>>51992914
>He's already Ron pauled.
No chance at all?
>>51992957
I wonder how many feminist think they are "coders" because they can do html and css.
>>51992942
good luck...
>kek
>>51993020
He had his microphone and stage stolen by some blacklivesmatters protesters and just hung his head in shame. He'll never live that down.
>>51991979
>uses the right(wrong for the US) colours for the parties
Not sure if I like this.
>>51993020
I actually think Bernie has a chance, he has an actual fan base of passionate supporters, no one actually likes Hillary. Some like what she represents aka a vagina put on the highest pedestal in the land, but no one actually likes her and there's probably a high percentage of her supporters that actually want Bill back in the white house. If Hillary wins it's not like Bill is going just do "first lady" stuff like telling school kids what to eat. Bill is the alpha, he'll be calling the shots even if Hillary is the "president" it will actually be Bill's 3rd term.
>>51993021
This has got to be shopped
>>51991938
american wasn't designed to have the "ministries appointed" as they are today. we took this path a long time ago with the growth of the federal government grown....
know your history, this "fourth branch" of government the US has today was not what we started with...90 percent of laws are made by regulatory "ministries" or as we say in the USA, agencies...
>>51993138
Duh? You think words just hang out in midair like that?
>>51993020
Nope. He's consistent, outspoken, and unwavering in his convictions. DNC simply can't have a candidate that does what he says he would.
>>51991840
This system you talk about is in use in some democratic countries, problem is miscommunication with each other and pride.
>>51993113
fuck off shill, reddit filename and all
Good luck getting those delegate seats in the primary. Next time just post "I don't know anything about politics".
>>51991921
As well as corruption
>>51993113
He might have supporters but he'll never get the nomination. He is not a favored choice among party elite; you should look at 538's endorsement primary.
>>51993242
>He might have supporters but he'll never get the nomination. He is not a favored choice among party elite
Interesting.
>>51993300
America, or even most modern democratic states, never started as true democracies and have never really been them either. Treating them as such generally leads to disappointment and disillusionment.
Or you know Ron Paul.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/
Reminder that Republic of Venice is literally the best example of stable governance
>>51992783
google knows what's up
>select the PIZZA
>select the BURGERS
>select the WHEELCHAIRS you lazy fat bastards!
>netcat some data from /dev/urandom to my vps
>accused of using illegal encryption
>can't prove it's not
>jail forever
thanks, obama!
>>51992529
Too busy being the best at everything
enjoy your mud invasion eurocucks
>>51993174
And unlike Paul, Bernie is a slimy toad of a politician who used the San Bernardino terrorist attack to push the lib agenda of "SEE GUISE, WE NEED TO BE MOAR LIKE YUROP". I lost all respect for him, and all of the Democratic candidates after that.
>>51991840
>what is Yurop
>implying America is a democracy
>>51992518
Yes, they seem to be. That's because they have heavy censorship. The media does not criticize the government or society, ever, except maybe r to whine about the average citizen not being traditional enough, and having too many foreign ideas. Meanwhile the kids there have almost zero interest in sex, and therefore making the next generation, and Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, along with S. Korea and Greenland. It's an oppressive shithole, it's just that it's cultural oppression rather than political or religious.
>>51992840
>If voting was a national holiday
It is here. You mean, Americans actually have to work on election days?
>>51991721
This is what happens when you only allow people that are 50 aND older to become president.
>>51996790
It's usually a Saturday, but not always.
>>51995973
Don't get me wrong, in not interested in voting for him, he's just a better candidate than the cunt
>>51991840
We have exactly that in Germany and it doesn't work at all.
Literally our ministers are not qualified for anything, they just randomly switch positions.
>Minister for defense is unironically a lady with 7 children who used to be family minister and never served in the armed forces in her entire life
>Labor minister is some political science student who studied 20 fucking semesters (that is 10 fucking years) and never worked in a real job in her entire life
>our minister for infrastructure studied fucking social sciences
We are literally ruled by amateurs that result from idiocy and nepotism
>>51997242
But isn't it great? You don't have to worry about those pesky holocaust deniers.
>>51992819
topkek
>>51997242
Amen, Bruder.
>>51997288
Meh, I couldn't care less about that, we have bigger problems right now. I keep voting libertarian but nobody wants them here.
Right wingers hate them because they approve of gays.
Left wingers hate them because muh capitalism.
>>51997321
I'd worry about your whore of a borders first hans. Once you let arabs in, they ain't leavin.
>>51992819
What if they ban numbers? Holy shit, man! There would be no 4chan anymore.
>>51991721
I fell that whenever I vote for someone I'm just voting for the next dictator for my country. That's a stupid system
>>51992886
"We reject: kings, presidents and voting.
We believe in: rough consensus and running code."
-David D. Clark, 1992, on describing the IETF
>>51992840
>expects a day off so you can spend 5 minutes at the polling station
I see obesity in America is a cultural problem
>>51991840
What you imply is the core thought of Technocracy. One day we will arrive there...
>>51992819
They already do. It's called software patents.
>>51997509
They already do. It's called DCMA encryption keys
>>51997636
40-80 hour work weeks and a cultural push to have kids in the 20s means adults from 25-45 have little free time to spend on an event they don't feel they have any say in.
Also
>5 minutes
Not all of us live next door to an elementary school that we might walk over at any time you kiddy diddler
>>51997699
The 20s is literally, biologically and culturally, the time when you should have kids.
Women in their early 20s give birth to the healthiest babies. From mid-30s onward there is sharp increase is children born with defects and other issues (lower intelligence, etc). Part of that is the decay of the body of the woman, part is damage to the eggs of a woman that accumulate, since they're there from birth, and don't grow as needed.
Culturally and educationally, it's clear that a woman who has kids in their late 30s will likely not have the energy to keep up with them any more when they're in puberty. She'll be in her 50s, and could be their grandmother.
Not having kids in their 20s is quite a huge problem for western cultures. There should be a law that requires every woman to have between two and three kids. Not less, not more.
>>51997804
>there should be a law to mass produce
No thanks there's enough retards in the world and a lot of them can't even afford to care for their kids.
>>51997699
>5 minutes AT the polling station
Are you legally blind or just illiterate?
It's not my fault that bumpkins choose to live outside of civilisation.
Besides, anyone who lives far enough from a station is probably far away from everything, the trip is negligible.
>>51997699
If they gave me a day off on election day the last thing I would give a fuck about is wasting that time to vote in a pointless poll that is governed by the majority who already vote for shills.
>>51997862
>implying a population that had two children per female wouldn't shrink
>>51997804
>this full of shit
I never ever say this, but please, [citation needed] you oblivious faggot
>>51997872
Travel, from 5 to 45 minutes depending on district shape, traffic, and individual polling precinct
In line for 5 to 45 minutes based on time of day and population
30 seconds to verify name
1 minute to cast vote
Travel for 5 to 45 minutes
And it doesn't help that my vote is only worth 70% of some faggot in Austin or San Francisco.
>>51997908
Well it's balancing the reproduction of undesirables with the general maintenance of the population.
>>51997804
>U.S. Population: Over 300 Million.
>World Population: Roughly 7 Billion.
>Currently no solutions for finite resources available to the currently large population consuming them.
>You want a law that magnifies this issue.
Stop having opinions, because all of them are clearly fucking retarded.
>>51991979
Your Rights are just as vulnerable as ours, Eurocuck.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-07/15/cameron-ban-encryption-u-turn
>>51997953
More so, at least we have the ability to defend ours, no matter how futile that attempt may be.
>>51997914
If you need citation for that, just google. There'll be 20 sources on the first page.
>>51997920
Well, I got you there. In an ideal world, we would only allow the most suitable genetic payloads to reproduce.
>>51997929
Even China removed their ban on second or more children, because they realised it's just giving them more problems.
>>51997929
the world could do with a LOT less humans
>>51998001
>citing Google for an undefendable claim
Go fuck yourself you unscientific waste of oxygen
>>51992942
wwhy found a tech startup if you don't know tech dude wat
>>51991979
Neither of the parties seem to ever say "I'm the good guy" only "they are the bad guys"
>>51998003
>the world could do with a LOT less Africans
Fixed that for you. Africa surpassed Europe in population in 1995 and will surpass Asia by mid century.
>>51998001
>Even China removed their ban on second or more children, because they realised it's just giving them more problems.
The limit in children is not causing problems, the near 2:1 ratio of males to females is their problem.
If they are willing to abort a child because it's a female and they're only allowed 1 shot, they'd do the same for a 2nd or 3rd given the chance or the need.
Minimum birth requirements are stupid, but a maximum of 3 would be good for everyone. Not based on wealth, not based on IQ, just no more than 3 kids per couple.
>>51991721
She wants to crack it not ban it. UK gov want to ban it.
>>51997509
Just rename it to fourchan. No more numbers.
>>51998113
>per couple
How would you enforce this with polygamists?
>>51998144
I said per couple rather than per woman so you don't end up with Chads spreading their seed into every whore imaginable.
Each person is allowed to legally parent two children. If a dude has 3 kids then divorces, he's not allowed to have more kids with new kidless partners.
This should make things interesting too: if a mother doesn't declare who the father is (either doesn't know, isn't sure etc.) then no more kids for her.
Also if you claim that a guy is the father and want him to take a paternity test and it comes back negative, -1 kid allowance for being a whore.
>>51998144
Could be per female as well, should give similar results
she said she didn't know enough to come to a solid conclusion. i don't like Hillary but stop freaking out.
>>51998230
>Each person is allowed to legally parent two children
Should be
>Each person is allowed to legally parent three children
>>51998106
Doesn't matter with neither enough water or food down there, and soon antibiotics don't work anymore so...
>>51993300
Not to mention his policies are ridiculous, but why bother with that.
Government relies almost solely on Silicon Valley to support their mass surveillance regime. All those tech companies should stop selling their hardware to the feds.... problem solved.
Political parties were a mistake.
t. George Washington
>>51997421
You can't control hundreds of kilometers of borders with the police force we have.
The way to stop them barging in is to stop giving them incentives to do so, i.e. stop the ridiculous welfare programs for doing no work at all (for EVERYONE, including lazy ass nationals). That's what liberal (not the American "liberal") or libertarian policies were for.
If the sandniggers come here to work, learn German, and escape their dictator's meme bombs and ISIS I'm not going to stand in their way.
Most of them come using fake passports though, and just want to slip their family into our welfare program (a socialist's wet dream basically).
But I don't have much hope for any reasonable change now. Politics will drift in an extremist retarded direction, like it did so many times before. Whether that will be racist right-wing national socialists or left-wing self-hating multicultural authoritarian communists, I cannot tell.
I don't think the over-exaggerations of civil wars and no-go zones will quite come true, at least not over the entire country; after all, I've been to some pretty uncanny areas of Chicago and Detroit as well. The point is that you can avoid them if you want to. Nevertheless I don't see much of a future in this country for me personally (over-regulation and over-taxation and literal tax-paid propaganda TV).
>>52000960
>US
>socialist's wet dream
What you call socialist would be right-wing conservative in most other countries.
>>52001018
I'm talking about Germany lad
FREE GUCCIFER, BITCH!
>not voting for the drug-addled, gun-toting cyberpunk candidate
america pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOUSHt4rJqk
>>51991840
actually the only problem is executive orders muh secret orders that can bypass congress
People won't like to hear it, but Trump is the only person saying that he's actually going to ask people who DO know what these things are so that he can NOT fuck everything up.
Common sense, really.
>>51991840
You are on the right track, anon. Now go read Moldbug.
>We need to ban all encryption because terrorists* use it.
* terrorists that we fund and create to get rid of leaders that we don't like
>>51991721
>hides email on personal servers and refuses to turn them over
>nobody else should be entitled to privacy
Fuck this hypocrite with Trumps dick.
>>51995973
>tragedies keep happening
>want to stop them from happening
>get mad because people want to stop them from happening
lol
>>52002728
sounds like hes already made up his mind on a lot of things, though
>wall
>somehow bar muslims from entering country
expert advice indeed
>>52002967
back to reddit berniecuck
>>52003042
nice one dude : )
>>52003042
The right should support Hillary/Bernie in 2016.
https://youtu.be/RxtXMlPSQAY?t=195
>>51998260
Butt blasted feminist detected
>>muslims
Violent terrorists
>>51992799
Convicts can't vote silly
She didn't call for a ban, she called for a backdoor on mobile encryption just incase the FBI and NSA can catch terrorists. Nobody bought her shit that I can recall.
>>51991721
It's okay. Bernie will save us.
>>51993020
Iowa is a statistical tie. Hillary supporters have no motivation to show up because they assume she already won. Bernie supporters are like a cult. Turnout will win.
>>51991721
she literally said she wouldn't support legislation to weaken encryption right before she said that.
>>52006675
>I believe firmly in the second amendment and due process
>but let's ban gun sales to people on the no fly list
Right. It's all doublespeak
>>52007149
Even then, you can still get a gun with cash through a dealer.
>>52006627
>Bernie making anime real
Implying he doesn't want to just give you job to a muslim
Trump is the one who can make anime real
>>51998128
That's just Cameretard
>>51997242
did you miss the part where I said based on ability?
>>51991721
She didn't say ban encryption. She said put enough resources into cracking it to make it worthless.
It's no different in the end, but it's a different road to get there.
>>52007586
And Teresa May.
Of all the times for 3rd wave feminists to chirp up with "we need more women in power", completely ignoring the absolute fucking mess the women already in power are making.
>We should have another woman prime minister for a change
Yeah, because that went so fucking well last time
If they actually had good policies they'd get elected no problem. Being female isn't the issue, being dumb as dogshite is.
>>51991895
>implying our system isn't already obscenely corrupt
>>51993021
4/5 of those tabs are javascript, and (whoever made the pic) chose to fixate on the single html file
>>51993420
Odd, why aren't Trump or Carson on there...?
>>52007525
Trump will replace all anime with western cartoons and then proceed to deport any and all japs that would be capable of creating *authentic* anime for underground distribution for not being white enough.
#bernie2016
>>51991840
>implying it isn't already there
>implying the jews haven't hijacked it
Democrats are liberal.
Republicans are conservative, stuck in the past.
>>51992914
>Hilary is implicated in leaking state secrets via her own personal email server
That isn't what the e-mail scandal is about. Clinton had the e-mail account that way before there was actually a rule about it.
You know...thanks to that massive government data breach that was discovered some months ago it may actually be possible that clinton's e-mails were safer on her private server than they would have been otherwise.
Just think about that for a second - the Chinese might have their hands on all her e-mails if not for that "fuck-up".
>is shown to be directly responsible for Benghazi
In that most recent 11 hour-long hearing, which parts specifically implicated her as being responsible? How is any public official supposed to do anything about something like Benghazi when there are threats made against embassies around the world DAILY? You'd probably just shut them all down I'm guessing.
>and has decades of history being a massive elitist corporate coksucking whorish cunt
So...being a politician?
>and yet she STILL had the polls because she's a woman.
Ignoring the fact that she's a woman, no one else in the Democratic field has the experience in politics that she does.
You really think this woman thing is such a massive factor? Why would a white woman lose to a black man then? She would've been a 1st too. It seems to me that you're really dwelling on the woman thing too much. Then again if you believe she's "directly responsible for Benghazi" then there's no convincing you; you're just completely batshit insane.
Anyways I'm not particularly thrilled with any candidate.
Both sides feel so...polarizing. However, the Republicans have made it easy for the past decade - I don't vote for batshit insane.
If Sanders wins the demo primary, I'll vote Sanders. If Clinton wins the demo primary, I'll vote Clinton.
Oh and on encryption...well I figure at some point someone (educated in the subject matter) will tell them how retarded fucking with it is.
>>52008019
Because it's predicting the results of the Democratic primary? And it's about endorsements from Democratic congressmen?
>>51992559
not saying japan is perfect by any means but they do have low amounts of crime if you've actually live there. There are small amounts of petty crime by teens like stealing but it's largely safe and a lot better than bordering countries.
>>51991721
she doesn't fucking understand tech so she shouldn't be saying shit about it
>I dont want backdoors anymore because MSFT and APPL say they are bad
>we need some way to get the data behind these terrorist communications that are encypted, I dont know what it is but i'm sure our tech people will figure it out
aka literally a backdoor
why not just fucking stop letting them into your country?
>>52000960
The thing about Germany is that the people and culture have always been pretty authoritarian. That's what really let all that shit happen in the 30s and 40s, and that hasn't changed. (Unfortunately, the rest of the Western world got much more authoritarian in the decades that followed because of the Cold War, so it doesn't look so much worse than anywhere else anymore.)
>>51991721
my hitler-fu, is so prettyful. I want her to step on me.
>>51991721
While I don't agree with Hilary on this, it still a lot less scary than Trump's idea to "shut down the internet". A world where our leaders decide what we can watch on the internet is a nightmare scenario.
>>51993021
>I wonder how many feminist think they are "coders" because they can do html and css.
Apparently I am dumber than that woman. Please explain why her code is dumb.
>>52010283
>that massive government data breach that was discovered some months ago
>the Chinese might have their hands on all her e-mails if not for that "fuck-up".
Shill please leave.
The OPM breach involved employment records and background check results for government employees, not emails. But you know that already.
>>52010560
Because it isn't code. It's html.
>>52010560
Because it's not code.
>>52010627
>>52010658
Alright, come on fags. Hyper Text Markup Language is literally a code that your browser interprets and renders. I understand that it's not a programming language, but it is a code.
>>52010576
Eh it was just a side point. I'll concede on that one (even though a private e-mail server is a lot more secure than a government one). It was a silly thing to say.
However the reason why the e-mail thing was a problem is because it was in violation of a new rule (a rule which came into effect after Clinton was already using her private e-mail server), not because the e-mails were compromised. The "hacking attempts" were just her e-mail address being sent a bunch of phishing e-mails; something which pretty much everyone in the world has to deal with. It's pretty shit to even call them "hacking attempts" instead of what they really are...just phishing e-mails.
It's also shit to nit-pick over a simple oversight like that and then say "hurr durr she's responsible for bengazi". She isn't...really. The e-mail scandal is republicans desperately clinging to any little thing to tarnish her reputation. For a politician, she's as clean as any reasonable person can expect.
Seriously...the e-mail thing makes me want to vote for her more, not less.
It's the smallest possible fuck-up. It says to me "it's the best dirt we could find"..."pretty much nothing".
>>52006627
>bernie
>implying he doesn't want big goverment
