This is an undersea internet cable.
Why don't they just lay more of these to make the internet faster and cheaper?
You don't understand the cost of laying down these cables. Prove me wrong.
>>51942355
first of all, those are fiber optic cables. only the little colored ones are the cables, the rest is the shielding.
and they're already everywhere unless you live in bumfuck nowhere
>>51942378
Captain Obvious
>>51942355
Someone has to pay for it.
We were going to get another one running from New Zealand but they could not raise the funds.
>>51942367
>they got a fiber NY-London for six milliseconds in 2011 [$300M]
All the internet can afford a couple of these, c'mon Uber is worth like $50B
>>51942355
Because it's cheaper to upgrade the transmitter/receivers at each end than it is to lay more fibre.
Why does an undersea internet cable need shielding if the surrounding water is a faraday cage?
>>51942630
Underwater critters.
USA already has advanced telecom infrastructure. we could have korea / japan / east europe tier internet if the telecoms wanted to let us use it. they just have no fiscal reason to since we will still pay $50+ for DSL connections and $100+ for limited 3G phone data
that's why google is doing what they're doing with fibre and project fi. they want to undercut the market and force them to gives us more connections at higher speeds for cheaper. cheaper internet = more people online at all times = more data recorded by google
>>51942630
Russians.
>>51942653
>they want to undercut the market
they primary want your data.
>>51942626
what you meant? I know nothing about fiber, what's the upgrade?
>>51942630
Because it has kilometers of water above it and it has to not break under it's own weight as it is laid out.
>>51942676
>that's why google is doing what they're doing with fibre and project fi. they want to undercut the market and force them to gives us more connections at higher speeds for cheaper. cheaper internet = more people online at all times = more data recorded by google
>more data recorded by google
Did you even read the other half of the post?
>>51942711
Also earthquakes, right?
thanks mr shark
>>51942740
Not so sure about that. As far as I am aware they aren't exactly fixed to the ocean floor, or aren't fixed close together.
I believe they are able to generally pick up the cable and draw it back to the surface to perform maintenance/repairs if required so there is probably tons of slack.
>>51942355
well you would get more bandwidth, but at some point the fundamental physics of the speed of light are limiting how fast you can reach and return data from a server on the other side of the world
>>51942862
Nah is actually limited by how fast the server can retrieve and answer
>>51942378
Uhm actually shielding is considered a part of the cable
>>51942367
Argumentum ad ignorantiam.
thanks mr shark
>>51943465
>>>/pol/ is over there, you fallacy geek
>>51942681
You know how wifi technology improves, allowing you to get faster speeds while still using the exact same medium (in this case, air)?
Same shit with fiber, there's a few considerations like multimode vs singlemode but apart from that it's a fancy string that you shine light into and it comes out the other side.
>>51943621
Not pertinent.
>>51942669
Underrated post
>>51943761
I appreciate it.
>>51942355
>Why don't they just lay more of these to make the internet faster and cheaper?
What makes you think this isn't already happening?
Why don't they go through the earth instead of around it? Wouldn't that be less distance?
>>51942355
>make the internet faster and cheaper
why?
>>51944104
because not everyone can get unlimited gigabit for $fuckall/mo, or y'know, at all, for any sum
why not just cut it?
getting really tired from those US shitposters
>Australia
Kill me
>>51944118
This would be a huge boon for corporations shorting stocks.
Sell then buy after you guide a remote controlled allahu ackbar submersible into the line. You could cuck a whole country like straya in a few hits, and surely it couldn't cost more than 500k all up.
>>51944174
And a lifetime in prison
>>51944171
>that papua new guinea region
>>51944235
The Malay archipelago?
>>51944235
Just an island of savages anyway.
>>51944260
>>51944261
Yea do they really not have internet?
>>51944261
Ugly savages
>>51944273
ur dumb
>>51944282
u 2
>>51942400
captain 9gag lelelele
>>51944282
Have you ever seen PNG post on a flag board? In fact a few years ago a French explorer discovered a tribe in the jungle that had never seen anyone civilised, ever.
thanks mr shark!
>>51942355
> cheaper
It won't get cheaper just because of a new sea cable.
> faster
Unless you can break the law of physics (speed of light) - it will not be any faster.
>>51944307
They do have Internet, we do have other telecommunication methods you know.
>>51944307
Might be going there soon. I'll check then
>>51944327
Watch out for the headhunters
>>51944273
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG-2
>>51944171
>I'm a pleb that doesn't understand jack shit
I bet you're from Victoria.
Also, map doesn't have PPC-1, so it's useless.
>>51944318
>It won't get cheaper just because of a new sea cable.
If it is owned by a competing teleco then it may get cheaper as they rent bandwidth on the cables to lower tier ISPs.
>Unless you can break the law of physics (speed of light) - it will not be any faster.
People mix up speed with bandwidth all the time, you should know this. They of course mean that higher bandwidths should become available as there would be greater capacity.
thanks mr shark
>>51944118
What a huge faggot.
>>51942355
Intercontinental cables aren't the bottleneck.
I can get fast connections to servers anywhere in the world.
It's your crappy local land lines that are the bottleneck.
And perhaps your shitty internet exchange (the place where different networks get linked together to form the >inter< net)
>>51944352
For Australia at the very least, we're not 'running out of bandwidth'
SXC still has a few upgrades left in it, along with ~1/8th of the fibers not even yet lit.
PPC-1 isn't even 1/3rd lit and is still only using 10gbe for each fiber, there is still 'a motherfucking shitload' of bandwidth left in those links.
Australia-Japan Cable isn't saturated either and is really only used to connect to Asia quicker (before PPC-1 it was also a nice redundancy link for when SXC was down)
SEA-ME-WE3 is shit and oversaturated, but I don't care about how fast I can get bits to the middle east or Israel, Europe is fast enough routing through USA.
Australia's problems wouldn't be solved by more international transit, we need better last mile connectivity.
>>51942355
because jet fuel melts right through them
>>51944352
>If it is owned by a competing teleco then it may get cheaper as they rent bandwidth on the cables to lower tier ISPs.
That's not how it works.
They are part of the backbone, not part of some ISP's own network.
>>51944468
what's the point for NZ/Straya and shitholes like that though? ping will be always shit.
>>51944476
I don't know. I already got a 200Mbps connection with my ISP in New Zealand. Two cities have gigabit fibre now.
>>51944488
Nice. We have shittier internet in Europe, where fast internet is common.
To be honest the US would need a full overhaul/upgrade instead of more sea cables.
The internet over there sucks balls.
Slow, data capped, etc.
>>51944506
Good internet requires socialism.
Never going to happen in the US.
>>51942355
yeah, why don't they just spend billions of dollars on a high risk, project that will take decades to return it's investment? the world may never know.
>>51944582
>>51942653
>they just have no fiscal reason to since we will still pay $50+ for DSL connections and $100+ for limited 3G phone data
Except $50 will get you a 30Mbps connection in the midwest and most people have access to LTE.
>>51944759
You say 30mbps like it's a good thing, while other countries pay 15 bucks for 100.
>>51944759
>Have 1000 mbps
>10€
Life is good desu
>>51944782
Do you not know what the American midwest is?
Protip: It's not very populated here.
Either way your numbers are completely wrong. They'd be more accurate in like 2006 maybe.
>>51944966
>€
Sorry to hear that anon.
We literaly have this stuff everywhere ... this map shows all the fiber for just level 3 ... well not all of it ... just the main fiber paths
>>51945077
Why so many points in south america?
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>>51945144
cut the red wire.
>>51945115
We actualy have a closure code for south america as to why the fibe was damaged ... its for grenade damage
>>51944759
I'm posting from the american midwest and the fastest hard line a person can get where I live (rural area) is 3 megabit. There's a company that offers faster with wireless and the cell towers allow pretty good throughput in spots that aren't terrain blocked but both their data limits are so draconian that there's no point. It's like satellite internet bad.
>>51943643
What is packet loss. Try implementing a datacenter just using wifi. That shit doesn't scale.
>>51945354
Move to a more populated area.
>>51942355
It'll be fun when the ruski subs blow up the ones in the atlantic.
>>51942355
Why don't you just kill yourself? One less person using the internet.
>>51945514
Then we'll just let Turkey nuke Moscow.
>>51945686
>Turkey
>Nukes
/pol/ pls go
>>51945745
Never! I will bring you the truth no matter what. It is my duty. DEUS VULT!
>>51943127
You are both right. His answer limits ping, yours limits bandwidth
>>51944373
P much this, replacing copper cables with FTTH is a huge upfront cost and in absence of the free market competition is economically stupid thing to do from a company point of view.
>hey let's spend billions so our shit users can have faster speeds that force us to buy even more expensive hardware and to pay even more to the Tier 1 providers
>or we can just make huge profits because we have a monopoly
For what happens when you have cutthroat competition and no regulations:
>Romania, gigabit for 12$
>>51945419
>missing the point this much
Where is the technology board?
>>51944488
What City are you in? I heard Dunedin has gigabit now... I'm from down under but haven't been back in 10 years!
>>51945419
Newest fiber cables probably have petabit speeds m8, it's just that sending and receiving tech isn't there yet. You can take a current gigabit fiber optic cable and upgrade the endpoints to get 40G speeds. Multiply that by hundreds of fibres in a modern cable and you get pretty future proof set up.
>>51944171
Irish fag here. We'll be getting one between new york and west of ireland soon.
>>51944171
>implying this isn't all a conspiracy to stop based goat continental drift
Telecommies aren't smart enough to understand this
ITT /v/eddit samefagging
>>51942831
>probably tons of slack.
Quite literally, in this case
>>51945745
>attack on US/EU
>no nukes from turkey
ok kid
There is a reason why Russia won't touch Turkey
>use more resources and labor to make something cheaper
>>51942630
Because sharks easily bite through everything.
>>51947060
>muh newkes
>buht muh newhks stop them newhkes
4chan, the very best armchair commanders
>>51947356
this, but not so much for the sharks, but to withstand the constant forces of the ocean. Its probably heavily over-engineered.
>>51947060
The first county that fires and unprovoked/unjustified nuke...will be glass 15 minutes later.
>>51947364
>>51947420
US fires the nukes that are in Turkey obviously you retards
There is literally no other reason that those nukes are there.
>>51947433
>WAAAH RETARDS MUH NUKES MAD DOESNT EXIST WAAWH WAAH TURKEY IS GOOD GOY RUSSIA BAD COMMINIST NUKE NUKE MUH NUKE BABY PACIFIER.
>WAAAH U TRESSPASING ON MY LAWN MUH NUKE NUUUUKE NUKE.
>>51947433
>>51947527
Holy shit
This pasta never stops does it
>>51947537
>pasta
>bait
>Jew
>goy
>>>/out/
>>51947527
Putin pls go
>>51947549
Don't worry, I agree with the pasta.
I've just seen the same pasta several times since the Turkey-Russia bitchfest began.
It's good at pissing off Erdogan-asslickers.
>>51944582
ahHAHahHAHAHHAHAHAHA
t. Argentina
>>51942630
The ocean floor is alive.
>>51942355
Because they'd rather use that money lobbying for more power.
nice
>>51947789
Just what the hell is this
>>51948102
Tomo news if I'm not mistaken.
All US Google Fiber when?
>>51947648
i don't think those cables touch the ground, oceans are fucking deep
>>51942355
Muh whales
>>51942630
Sharks
>>51948543
The cables are fucking long and we have little submarine robots that help
>>51942426
stop war in middle east and just make my life better... gladly pay taxes for this.
>>51944582
Capitalism + welfare is not the same thing as socialism. None of the countries that redditors fetishize are socialist.
can /pol/ fuck off already
who cares? there is nothing worth sending packets to in europe anyways
>>51942653
>USA already has advanced telecom infrastructure
ahahahah, bitch please. come to a real first world country and see.
>>51942355
Fucking audiophiles
>>51944452
No, that's exactly how it works.
Those undersea cables are owned top tier Telcos who rent out bandwidth the same way that mid tier Telcos rent out bandwidth on their networks to bottom tier Telcos.
>>51944414
There's a shitload of bandwidth available in the most of the links but Telcos have to rent bandwidth like a year in advance which means they have to estimate how much they will need.
If they hit their bandwidth limit then users will see the effect during peak times. Remember this is a bandwidth cap, not a data cap.
My ISP was hitting their limit in the past which is how I learned of this.
>>51942653
While I'm not denying telecom companies are shit and overcharge for what they sell, the difference in scale between the US and European/rich Asian countries (inb4 China, isn't most of their population on the coast only?) is why it's so much slower. I work for an electrical coop and a lot of times we have to lay many miles of line just to service a few customers. That doesn't do anything good for profit-minded companies, so they either give them shitty service or none at all.
>>51944171
>bomb seatle, LA, NY and Miami to cut American shit posting off from the rest of the world
Time to get to work.
>>51943726
To you. Important to remember that just because you have an understanding of applied logic, not everyone will always use or care about that particular English structure.
>>51942355
Why don't they just put 6 of them inside instead of 3?
>>51944582
God internet requires population density.
>>51950960
Very true, thanks.
>>51945354
Midwest here, fastest lines locally are either 50 or 100Mbps, can't remember which
>>51942355
>internet cable
>internet
>cable
Network cable you normie, or more correctly a sub-surface transatlantic fiber optic cable.
>>51945861
This is why Comcast and others need to be heavily regulated which i'm usually against. They've bought their way so deep into government lobbying that they're pretty much unstoppable unless another mega corporation (Google) forces them to evolve.
>>51944307
I saw one on /pol/ the other day. No screenshot, but I don't have much incentive to lie.
>>51942355
Why should they? They can charge whatever they want for whatever shitty service, and you will end up paying for it anyway. It's not like some competitor some day will suddenly start laying those cables offering a better service.
>>51944171
holly shit I just realized I could stop all of the inidians if I just cut a few cables
no more curry shit
