Is this the best piece of software ever created to fulfill my autistic needs of organization and productivity?
Considering its >free and it has practically everything.. or is it just overkill?
>>51939260
>>free
>>51939260
yes it's pretty good. perfect for pen input (not the app, the desktop program).
I use OneNote as literally, my second brain. I have tons and tons of linux/ networking/ scripting/ coding/ fitness/ and general finance info stored.
If onenote had torrent and web browsing it would be my operating system
are there any alternatives to onenote? just wondering
I got office 365 through my school. Don't use OneNote though. Why is it being praised?
>>51940368
Because it is fucking great.
It's kind of embarrassing but I have a WP(1520) and one note workflow is in a great synergy between my pc and my phone.
Is there any difference from every other note taking application?
No?
Gonna keep KEEP tank you very much. It is already bloated as it is now
>>51939260
It's pretty cool, but since I don't do Windows away from the office I've been using RedNoteBook.
>>51940350
I have scoured the earth and found nothing like it.
Also, if you want a kek, open Windows Journal on a Windows PC, and think about the fact that it exists, that someone made it, that somebody probably uses it, and that hardly anyone has even heard of it.
>>51939260
Isn't this just a program that lets you take notes on a surface? I'm pretty close to buying an SP4 m3 model just for having a light laptop/note taking device for university and from what I can tell, that's the entire point of that program.
I thought they murdered onenote with their new app. Is there an official download of the desktop program somewhere? Google isn't helping.
>>51940648
I found it. They hid the download link to push their retarded app. Go to https://www.onenote.com/download and click Other download options.
>>51940350
there are some alternatives, but you need at least three different programs to replicate the functionality, especially if you use a pentablet.
OneNote seems to be praised everywhere. For what feature do you use it that can't be replicated by other note taking applications.
>>51940813
FUCK YOU MICROSOFT. WRITE PROGRAMS THAT DO ONE THING AND DO IT WELL.
>2015
>still can't merge/split table cells
>stupid clunky header
I type better notes on Word and only use OneNote for classes that require jotting down stuff like reactions or calculations
>Actually taking notes during lectures
>>51940848
this,
ms word is god tier
>everything in bulletpoints
>bulletpoint hierarchy
one note does not have very good bulletpoint functionality
>>51940835
I don't know if this is a question but I'm going to respond like it is anyway.
One note has some pretty awesome OCR for both inserted pictures and handwriting. It's one of my favorite features. I used it commonly for notes in math classes.
>>51940887
It works well enough for lists. If you are making a document though for other people, it's not very good. It's an organizational tool, not a presentation tool.
>>51940881
>going to lectures
>>51940904
It was a question. Forgot the question mark.
Thanks for the answer. Didn't know about the ocr capability.
>>51940904
i store all my things as bulletpoints under other bulletpoints.
cant get any more efficient than that in terms of note-taking.
one-note cant do that.
no part of it has anything to do with presenting of material.
its just a very efficient way of condensing ideas.
i dont even have to use sentences.
>>51940835
Taking notes
Record audio while taking notes (if you click on the stuff you've written down you can jump to the associated audio passage)
Sharing notes in realtime with your classmates
You are not restricted to a format like DIN A4
pen shortcuts
Import images or pdfs
Image to text
Drawings into shapes
And you can organize it nicely
Those are the features I mainly use. There is alot more
>>51940910
>college
>>51940910
>leaving the house
>>51940955
Yeah it's pretty boss. I've used it to turn a printed document into a digital one by taking a picture of it and pasting it into a one note page. It worked way better than I expected and way better than the OCR software that came with my last scanner. It's also pretty decent with handwriting, especially because you can train it.
>>51941004
>>51941040
>living in a house
Anybody use Evenote? I've been using Evernote as an expansion of my brain for five years or so, but lately they've been pushing the paid premium shit and it's getting annoying and cheapening the experience. I use Windows anyway, been thinking about switching.
Can you anons post screenshots of how you organize everything?
Is it better than Google notes?
>>51941116
Everything is better than google notes
>>51941048
>Leaving your mothers womb
How to I export from OneNote to jpg or pdf?
>>51939260
I use trello to plan out everything, it's god's gift to organization.
>>51941102
I always create one notebook for each semester, and under the semester I put in all of my modules, and under my modules I create for every lecture and task a new paper
>>51939260
no. Tom boy is a better student program. You can link hyperlinks to another sections of the text from any where in the note page.
(refer to section 3 on how retards live is /g/)
>Click
Oh so it is true that retards live on /g/
how the fuck do i install one note without installing the whole office suite?
>>51939260
>using Microsoft products
>>51941255
Onenote does this too.
>>51941116
The only thing the google notes has going for it is the simplicity. Its not even in the same level as note tbhfam, its more comparable to notepad
>>51940606
I had no idea...
>>51941217
>Being conceived
>>51941269
So do you use inferior products on purpose?
Windows, ondrive, office, outlook, onenote are all the best in their categories
>>51941499
how is outlook better than other mail clients?
>>51941522
How is it not?
I really like OneNote, but I'm not really happy with how many hoops you have to jump through to set paper sizes on anything that isn't the Windows Desktop program, as well as how margins work when printing and how awful/slow the syncing is. I probably wouldn't be talking so much shit if I actually had a Surface though.
This is what I use
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtCUr83XgyE
How is OneNote compared to Notability?
>>51941233
i'm on 2013. File -> pic related
>>51941233
>>51941755
oops
>>51941579
get the windows desktop program. The app is shitty in comparison especially since they are both free. >>51941726
>>51941522
I don't use Outlook but I know it has many small useful features and does more besides email. Here is a random website from google. http://www.alphr.com/features/388939/the-18-best-outlook-tips-for-increasing-productivity-become-an-outlook-expert-with-these-lesser-known-tips
>>51941611
>no autosave
Actual OneNote employee here. Sorry about the app. It was rushed and redesigned a couple times. We still have to hold onto the 15 year old deadweight which is the office core, and other problems. Any feedback /g/ would like to give?
>>51941977
Can you guys hurry up and allow password unlocking on mobile devices?
I have a bunch of locked folders and I cannot view them on my mobile devices. It's extremely frustrating because all of my personal research is on there and I sometimes just want to look at it while on the go.
>>51942020
I don't work with mobile, but can see what's the hold up. Which mobile platform are you talking about? As far as I know, windows phone and web mobile both allow password unlocking. I'd hazard a guess that ios works too, which would only leave android.
>>51942188
Yup, I'm on Android.
I have a Nexus 6 running Marshmallow which runs Marshmallow that's coupled with great encryption (supposedly).
I do know that updating for Android is an absolute nightmare due to fragmentation.
>>51941977
1. Please abandon the onenote app and work on the desktop program instead.
2. An anon in this thread mentioned he wanted to merge/split tables.
3. It would be nice if there were an integrated calendar or work together with Outlook's calendar. I don't have Outlook so I don't know if it already exists.
>>51941977
4. Export as an image
When I was on Windows 8.1, I kept a lot of my school notes in OneNote files. When I moved over to Windows 10, OneNote would no longer allow me to open anything without creating a Microsoft account.
What the hell?
>>51940494
KEEP as in Google Keep?
>>51941977
5. I'm going to be an autistic neckbeard and ask for onenote to be more compatible with wine.
>>51942337
>Please abandon the onenote app and work on the desktop program instead.
Never gonna happen
>An anon in this thread mentioned he wanted to merge/split tables.
The table functionality in onenote is less than excels. Even importing a table with merged columns results in split columns. The Word guys have merged table cells, but don't have buttons for merging/splitting. I'll have to see what they do and see if it's feasible to steal.
>It would be nice if there were an integrated calendar or work together with Outlook's calendar. I don't have Outlook so I don't know if it already exists.
Cross office work is frustrating. Every group tends to do their own thing, so it's hard to get collaboration. There is an "outlook tasks" section in the desktop that's sort of a link between the two. You'll see a flag in onenote and an event in outlook that link to each other.
>>51942389
>Export as an image
I know they have added exporting to multiple file types in all the major desktop versions, but I'm unsure if we'll see this in the universal version. They like to keep the universal version a simplified version. I'll look for it in the backlog.
>>51942494
>wine
Hahahahaha. I have no idea why it is broken on wine, but knowing the horrible code behind the core, and how OS depended office programs are, this very unlike to happen
Oh man, I thought I was the only one that used it, as I've never actually met people who knew OneNote before this thread.
Also, has anything significant been added to it since 2007?
>>51942428
We like you to have a MS account. It allows us to attempt to sell you office 365. Additionally, if you store your onenote in onedrive, we can do the OCR/handwriting recognition on the servers. Otherwise the phone never gets the recognition due to draining battery life and people complain about high cpu usage if the desktop version does it.
>>51940350
Evernote?
>>51942627
Do you work with MS COM directly or indirectly through .Net?
>>51942743
Directly.
>>51942627
Thanks for the answers senpai
>>51940350
It depends entirely on what features you use. For Android, Squid is great for handwritten notes assuming your tablet supports na active stylus, and the simple section-folder organization works great. If you don't take hand-written notes, Evernote is pretty nice.
>>51942750
How big is your reference? Do you need a whole shelf to hold all of them?
>>51942750
Can you make it possible to choose your own default colors? For example I usually pick the darker blue for note taking because it looks more like ink. and it would be alot better if I could put it to the left like in the pic
>not using a notebook and a pencil
>not using technology that respects your freedom
Shiggy Diggy
>>51942960
I like to use Tiddlywiki. All you need is a modern web browser.
>>51942803
My reference is search to search the entire microsoft office code history for something similar to what I want to do, then do something similar.
>Unit tests are a blast.
>>51942857
An intern did those quick-color shortcuts. If I recall correctly, they were hard coded. Sorry. I'll add it to the /g/ backlog on what to work on when I have spare time, although arguing for a setting may take some convincing. I should be able to add a undocumented registry value though.
What's the purpose for OneNote anyway? People say it's all that, but for me I'm wondering what the difference between typing notes in OneNote or Word (WordPad)?
>>51942989
Handwriting notes is the main benifit
I have it, but I don't use it.
What's an advanced use case for this thing? I can't seem to make it do anything other than be a glorified todo list. Does it have timers and stuff?
>>51942989
You get to organize everything in different chapters and different pages.
OCR text reader, an amazing app, cloud backup, attachements, etc
>>51942687
>We like you to have a MS account. It allows us to attempt to sell you office 365
You already do that by repeatedly giving me notifications that I should buy office 365. Is this the price of getting Windows 10 for free? You all get a platform to distribute advertisements for Microsoft products directly in the operating system?
>Additionally, if you store your onenote in onedrive, we can do the OCR/handwriting recognition on the servers
Yes, but if I'm accessing my files in the cloud, I'm wasting bandwidth, and I'm letting someone else look through my shit. It's much easier to just put my files on my hard drive or my external. Fast reads/writes and I'm the only one with access.
>>51943317
>Is this the price of getting Windows 10 for free?
Sure. When you use Windows 10 and OneNote for free, we want you to buy something.
If you want to save it locally, then use the desktop version and don't save it in your OneDrive folder. It's that simple.
>>51940606
>>51941087
Used to use Evernote, now I just use a combination of sublime text and devonthink. I've also used notational velocity which is cool except for the fact you can't stick rich text into it and it doesn't scale.
>>51943871
because windows 7 came out when everyone thought "tablet PCs" were going to be a big thing. I remember every tech mag shilling for them
>>51944003
>>51939260
Google Keep is better
>>51944015
nice ipad pro
I miss it on linux
its really well done
>>51944153
How is it superior than jotting down on paper and later typesetting it with glorious LaTeX?
>>51940350
>>51944153
Just put all of your notes into an organized directory structure inside of a Dropbox. I've been it like that since forever.
- Cross platform
- Can handle literally any document format that exists
- Can be searched just as fine on systems with proper file indexing
- Doesn't require 10 gigabloats of shit just to read your notes
>>51944406
THIS.
motherfucking this.
finally somebody said it.
>>51944387
myself, along with most of /g/ probably type faster than they can write.
ive tried many ways to speed up thought to document interfacing. writing then using OCR, typing, even tested speech recognition software.
nothing beats typing. unless you have somebody who is ready to transcribe whatever you dictate to paper.
Can it work well in math classes where you have to deal with equation and symbols?
>>51944442
How can you type that fast in a math class? You got to write symbols and equations.
Do you define a specific layout for your keyboard during math classes?
>>51944448
Since it's handwriting... yeah
>>51944466
I am talking about typing it off the keyboard.
Since I cannot write that fast with stylus because it seems so unnatural. I actually write fast on paper with pen.
>>51944464
dont do math or chemistry.
my degree is 70% rote learning random facts
>>51944406
>>51944430
ok, now how about pasting screenshots
and how about onenote OCR feature where you can actually ctrl+f in the text in the picture
how about all the nice formating that makes shit organize and easy to check rather than being a savage from asci time with asci porn
tagging works great
general use is comfy and intuitive
sending anything at any time to onenote with hyperlinks embedded
its really on another level than anything else currently available on linux
as a notetaking and organizer application
and this comes from arch user, but I a not a blind GNU fanatic
>>51944485
fuck wanned to use this pic
Wait, so do I actually have to write math down with stylus? What's the fucking point? I can do that on a notebook too.
Is there something that I can use to take notes in math classes? Do you recommend LaTeX?
>>51944485
>>51944492
the send to one note thing is actually a separate window that I captured with your post. It normally hides itself if you use it to take screen shots but I used printscreen instead so I could show the tool. I pasted a picture into a new page of my work note book and hit control f and typed one. It highlighted all instances of one in my picture (four)
>>51944481
why would one note make your keyboard work better for taking notes in math class?
Also, you are using the wrong stylus. You need to look for a wacom or ntrig pen tablet. Significant difference. Hover detection, palm rejection, pressure sensitive, some models are tilt sensitive, multiple buttons on the stylus, etc.
>>51944485
i type all essential info from screenshots. it helps me remember better.
idk about you, but I have a mensa tested IQ of 131, a very good memory and a reading speed of 600 words per minute.
I've memorized the whole periodic table and pi to 120 digits.
nearly everything in my degree is based on memory, so I do not find the need to rely on such applications when dropbox and word docs suffice just fine.
why fix something that isnt broken?
>>51944563
Not everything works for every one. Also, no one cares about your special snowflake IQ or what you memorized.
And FYI, one note is free (word is not) and cloud based software is now included with windows (whereas dropbox is not).
>>51944563
I find it funny how stupid people always boast about their iq and stuff
if you were actually smart you would realize that a tool can be great without you using it, just by comparison to other tools
now go to bed kid, and tell your life story someplace else
>>51940350
A6 size notebook and pencil?
>>51944581
no.
the fact that onenote is a datamining machine and you retards act like its some holy grail is what is concerning.
>>51944485
>and how about onenote OCR feature where you can actually ctrl+f in the text in the picture
PDFs are indexed by the file search of my OS, never needed anything else. When you already have text it seems kind of bogus to store it as a picture. OneNote with those features enabled tends to explode to a galactic ram usage and is hardly usable and it tends to bloat up annotaed PDFs to size of multiple hundred MBs.
>tagging works great
Implying I can't tag files on the hard drive
>how about all the nice formating that makes shit organize and easy to check rather than being a savage from asci time with asci porn
What are you blabbering about? Create a rtf, or odf, or anything else if you want to store formatted info.
>sending anything at any time to onenote with hyperlinks embedded
Dropbox -> share by link
>its really on another level than anything else currently available on linux
implying I use Linux
>>51944485
Ok, now how about:
- Being able to migrate all your notes to a different service
- Document encryption
- Storing your documents on your local server rather than the "cloud"
- Collaborating with someone that doesn't use OneNote
>>51941977
please let me be able to make a onenote page of infinite length but A4 width in the desktop app
>>51944442
>nothing beats typing
other than the actual fact that you don't learn as much by typing over writing. writing is a totally different function that follows symbolic logic and other shit that our brains are wired for and have been for thousands of years and typing is just remembering where keys are using muscle memory and does not serve as a good remembrance to anything. google it if you're so skeptical.
I started using one note for my undergrad and fell in love with it. I've since used it also for my master's and am now using it at work, for private studies and everything that requires me writing something down.
Anyone who's telling to just do the layout in a text editor or one of the many other things it can do in many other separate pieces of software instead of onenote hasn't used onenote properly.
>>51945372
My handwirting is ugly and slow. I can confidently say that I learn better when typing. Maybe I'm a special case but I can't study using handwritten notes
>>51944693
This.
>>51944563
>tfw mensa tested iq of 140 and cant remember more than 1 A4 page of text for exams
i cheat all the time and most of my degree is calculating shit thankfully
>>51944448
it even has tools to convert your handwritten maths into proper maths text
I use it as my chemistry lab notebook, I've looked at many alternatives and none even come close to it's functionality
>>51944153
Just use the browser version you autist.
Why I havent switched my notes from OneNote to dropbox or Trello.
>Offline use.
You simply can't rely on note taking application if it needs a log-on to a service and an internet connection.
>rednotebook
This is all I use on my system and I love it. Windows, mac and linux
>>51945372
>typing is just remembering where keys are using muscle memory and does not serve as a good remembrance to anything
You remember things better if you write them on physical paper than on a screen with a stylus. There was a study done on that.
>>51944464
Use TeXmacs for math.
>>51945683
I tried, its not good enough in that form
feels like shit using it
though I consider onenote the best note taking application, it does not mean that you can run it in browser and still keep that feel of it, speed responsiveness, freedom to do shit as you please, its all severly restricted
>>51945996
[citation needed]
I cannot find any study that seems to suggest this. If anything, the general consensus is that writing notes by hand forces one to refine their notes whereas typing is quicker and therefore tends to verbatim notes, i.e. without critical thinking [1]. Furthermore, digital note taking increases the opportunity for distraction [2] and the cognitive work load necessary to take notes [3]. However, provided enough self-discipline and experience with a stylus system, e.g. a Surface with OneNote, all three of these observations are effectively nil. I generally agree with the suggestion that typing notes is not as effective though I beg to differ that digital handwriting is fruitless, if not by personal anecdote but by reasoning alone.
[1] Mueller, P. A., & Oppenheimer, D. M. (2014). The Pen Is Mightier Than the Keyboard Advantages of Longhand Over Laptop Note Taking. Psychological science, 0956797614524581.
[2] Sana, F., Weston, T., & Cepeda, N. J. (2013). Laptop multitasking hinders classroom learning for both users and nearby peers. Computers & Education, 62, 24-31.
[3] Oviatt, S., Arthur, A., & Cohen, J. (2006, October). Quiet interfaces that help students think. In Proceedings of the 19th annual ACM symposium on User interface software and technology (pp. 191-200). ACM.
OneNote is only free when your thoughts are worthless.
>>51944406
My only problem with the folder approach is file browsers on most os's suck, search sucks even more, plus there's no cross-platform method of tagging things.
>>51946180
/thread holy shit
>>51939352
Le ebin free Software may may
OneNote 2013 master race reporting in, newer iterations are fucking worthless by comparison.
>dem tabs
>dem options
>still syncs with WP OneNote
>>51944543
Windows + S is the miracle of the universe.
>>51939524
Win*cough*dows 10.
>>51940427
That's the power of the botnet. I don't get why /g/ praises loonix so much, all hail the botnet and it's unparallelled functionality.
I use Google Keep. Available on both Chrome and Android. They should change the name, though.
>>51946674
Yeah I didn't even know that existed, figured you guys were just stuck with the suite (docs sheets etc)
Speaking of which onenote's chart function is still near useless.
>>51945067
-export to .pdf
-encrypt the .pdf
-change to .pdf, or export the .onenote files to somewhere else local
-onenote online
>all this talk about encryption
Who the fuck is actually putting delicate information in something like OneNote? Jesus Christ.
>>51939260
Since when has onenote been free? I paid for office 2010 (albeit at a discounted rate) just so I could have a copy of onenote. It's the best piece of software of its kind so worth the money but if it's been free all this time I would have felt a clown.
>>51948933
It started pretty recently.
>>51948958
>>51948973
Oh thank god I didn't waste my money five years ago then.
>>51948316
>-export to .pdf
Then you can't change your existing notes anymore, your progress is lost. Also, the PDF export messes up and it won't render properly for most PDF viewers, I've used that multiple time.
>-onenote online
Then you are forced to upload your files and technically you are still forced to use onenote to open your notes. Assuming the web app would be an option, if it works as "stable" and "smooth" as the other office web apps its practically useless for any form of productive work. You will not be able to convince anyone to use it.
>>51940783
installing the desktop app right now and it's taking ages
is this normal /g/? is microsoft just checking if I'm pirating any other piece of software they own?
>>51949685
pic related
>>51949685
It's normal.
>>51949806
it's still installing lol
is it preloading the whole office package or something?
>>51949849
It's probably downloading more files and your Internet is just shit.
Never really used OneNote before...
can you use the hand-writing detection for inserting formatted math equations?
>>51949889
just installed the desktop app and I haven't figured out how to use the hand-writing detection yet
>>51949887
or maybe microsoft's servers are overloaded as always
>>51949889
>>51949984
looks like it only supports it if you enter it using a touchscreen and not a mouse
>>51944406
I do this cause I mainly type on my laptop
>have Sublime
>open a tab for classes notes
>save all tabs to Dropbox
>gets synced to my file server
>can access it from phone if i need to review notes on the bus before test
but for random ideas, reminders, and brain farts I use Google Keep since it works great on my phone and I can voice type bigger ideas while walking.
>>51939260
>everything
I thought it was just a basic word processor with a doodling tool and the ability to organise pages into virtual notebooks? It's pretty barebones.
>>51939260
Use Xournal
https://github.com/sjl/t
>>51951894
>basic word processor with a doodling tool and the ability to organise pages
The same way that Chrome is just a webpage displayer, a Note 4 is just a phone and the Linux kernel just a software and hardware connector
>>51952745
well what does it have that makes it so much better than other note taking programs?
>>51952205
why not just use a literal todo.txt file and echo your shit into it?
freetards and their "muh simplicity" are too much sometimes
>>51952820
you can improve that by using the .log file ending
Windows will affix date and time automatically everytime you change the file.
>>51939260
Evernote is literally dead and finished now
http://www.gsmarena.com/evernote_to_shut_down_skitch_and_clearly-blog-15628.php
I feel conflicted because sometimes I use this and other times I use org-mode. Most of the time I use Supermemo though. Lists go in org-mode (you can use that web app that's not free and 10x inferior if you're a scrub though). OneNote I have set up sort of like a real notebook, and just chuck a bunch of shit in it. Supermemo is for reading and remembering shit.
>>51939352
It's free enough
>>51940350
use the program KeepNote and the use dropbox to sync
