I love my Linux desktop. I find it incredible how all this software written by people all over the world is pieced together to form such a functional system. How can we all help make Linux better?
>>51838598
>How can we all help make Linux better?
By writing free open source software, and/or donating money to support projects you appreciate.
>>51838618
What are the basics needed for writing GTK+ applications?
>>51838618
/Thread
>>51838598
>how can we all help make Linux better
you can't
>>51838649
A text editor, a compiler, and the GTK development headers.
>>51838598
>iPhone
>Google Maps
>not AOSP Android and OpenStreetMap
>>51838721
iPhone and Google Maps are both great products.
>>51838649
You need to abandon all rational thought and have no sense of how human beings use a computer. Make sure your UI has three non-descriptive buttons as an absolute maximum. Also make those buttons larger than Texas.
>>51838598
>How can we all help make Linux better?
Make it so you can play games on it.
>>51838884
t. NSA shill
>>51838884
So are you.
>>51838899
I've never really been interested in games but I see where you're coming from. If the userbase went up then corporations wouldn't mind supporting it, but so many people care about games that it's kind of a chicken and egg situation.
>>51838598
what theme is it? Looks really cool
>>51838904
not the guy you're responding to but what's this "t." that's been popping up a lot
>>51838598
>>51838884
>proclaims love for free software
>uses non-free software
>>51838598
Is that KDE or XFCE? Also, what theme and icons? I require this information.
>>51838915
Cheers, it's basic but it's pretty much just XFCE with an Adwaita theme and the window buttons panel addon.
>>51838934
>can't even spell
It's possible to use both.
>>51838940
>>51838915
>>51838943
did you install xfce over ubuntu gnome or what?
>>51838598
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also os x is the best unix system
>>51838598
>How can we all help make Linux better?
Start paying people for their time and code rather than brainwashing mentally vulnerable in to pissing their lives away in the "fight for freedom" would be a good start, also it would mean a lot of broken shit could get fixed.
>>51838960
https://github.com/thearakattack/adwaita-xfce>
>51838977
yeah, osx is nice too. I like linux more though.
to see what linux can really become, have a look at what happened to BSD after billions of dollars were invested, and millions of man hours poured into it by Apple Corperation
>>51838980
75% of kernel development done by paid developers
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-source-insider/2012/04/linux-foundation-75-of-kernel-development-done-by-paid-developers.html
>>51838598
use windows fagget
>>51838977
Caboolture is shit tho. I live in the valley
>>51838994
well that explains why GTK is shithouse
C O C O A F R A M E W O R K
>>51839004
>VALLEY
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>>51839017
>C O C O A F R A M E W O R K
GNUstep, would actually have been pretty cool
Strange that it got so little attention
>>51839034
except GNUstep isn't what's powering the api of OSX
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>>51839027
charging my thinkpad using an outlet under a bench on Chinatown mall
>>51838598
By not ripping off OS X so god damn much.
>>51839100
>charging my thinkpad using an outlet under a bench on Chinatown mall
you got that boys?
Tac-teams 1, and 2: move in.
>>51838994
>>51838980
Not only kernel development, a great amount of the OSS projects are written by paid developers.
Chromium, WebKit, Qt, Firefox, OpenJDK, IntelliJ, MySQL, .NET (which is open-source now too).
I myself have been paid to write on OSS software (for a network monitoring tool). Open sourcing your tools is a great way for companies to get a big user-base without having to spend anything on marketing or sales, its a viral form of distribution that works on its own and pays off. Even Microsoft has realized this by now.
There is also literally nothing wrong with enjoying what you do and coding on a project you like in your free time.
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>>51839066
Jesus christ, could you stop with that shitposting please?
Nothing on linux is best in class, usually the worst in class, and nothing ties together at all because the devs are antisocial. Exception is the OS itself for server use. If you use it for desktop you are down syndrome
As someone who has only ever used Windows and has tried to use Linux for about 4 days now, I just don't see how anyone could be expected to pick up a distro and run with it without considerable knowledge beforehand.
I don't know shit about text editing, scripts, or terminals and the whole root file system seems purposefully obtuse. I just don't see how your average person can make that switch unless they've got time on their hands and are willing to dig through forum posts on google to resolve basic issues with functionality that Windows doesn't have.
I mean the vast majority of people who have exclusively used Windows have at most done basic things in cmd and then to have the terminal thrown at you is jarring to say the least.
>>51839188
>I don't know shit about text editing, scripts, or terminals and the whole root file system seems purposefully obtuse.
shitposter here.
acutally it's the opposite. the windows registry system is purpousfully obtuse. the linux file metaphor is everything is a file. the system configuration is the same as the jpeg you just posted. it's just a file somewhere, in a specfic directory, waiting to be edited or read. that's simpler
>>51839185
Disregard this, I have fetal alcohol syndrome.
>>51839188
>I don't know shit about text editing, scripts, or terminals and the whole root file system seems purposefully obtuse.
Then use Ubuntu LTS on supported hardware.
>>51839188
are you trying to use ubuntu or something else?
>>51839222
i'll bitcoin you $5 if you stop hacking my 4chan account
>>51839188
>I don't know shit about text editing
literally like notepad
>scripts
If you can write down a series of commands to be performed in order you're already scripting. Just execute the file and you're good to go.
>terminals
superior to cmd in every conceivable way
>the whole root file system seems purposefully obtuse
Windows actually has a single root filesystem under the hood these days, it just hides it because retards are used to drive letters.
>>51839266
they point is you initially have to google search everything to find out what commands you have to use. And at then start there will be lots of learning through failure. And for what goal? there is no reason to go though all that to competently use an OS that has no software.
>>51839280
Freedom. Otherwise this happens10 oh no microsoft is doing things I don't like
20 time to buy the next microsoft OS
30 goto 10
>>51839280
also, when I was a kid, my dad held my head underwater in the bathtub, and I lost oxygen to my brain for 9 minutes.
>>51838898
don't forget no title bars, dark a my soul themes, and anime girls everywhere
>>51839280
I made the post that that guy is responding to.
I'd like to switch to exclusivley using linux because of concerns I have with being supported on my Microsoft. I like the "philosophy" as well and the community, from what I've seen of it anyways seems nice. I like how it's constantly moving forward.
Yeah it sucks dick, and it feels like I've jumped into a pool of acid at times, but I feel like it will be worth it in the end.
Maybe I should just switch from Debian 8.2 to Mint or something, I don't know.
>>51839348
Meant to say being spied on by Microsoft.
>>51839280
>d for what goal?
This board is on the 'interests' column, not on the 'you're going to starve without these' column.
What part of 'for fun' do you not understand?
>>51839359
not really an issue if you got nothing to hide
>>51839371
post your username/password for your email and facebook then
>>51839312
there is no freedom in Linux, unless you spend your whole life coding half decent software for it.
>>51839369
Fucking hell I hate Android text selection, always fucking shit up.
Polite sage for shit post
>>51839348
the philosophy of linux is good. The community are antisocial loser though who deny any issues that new switcher have with the platform. There is no software on it either. I'll switch when it's the best. at the moment it's the worst
>>51838598
>tfw I have a stable and smooth desktop with high quality FOSS alternatives for every piece of software that I used on Windows and I miss nothing from it
feels good
>>51839371
le nutin2hide
>>51839188
You don't need a terminal for regular usage, just install any flavor of ubuntu and use the software center or the GUI for installing things. Even my little sister has been using Ubuntu for years now and she can handle it well.
Guides and tutorials will give you terminal commands cause its easier to follow than creating side-long pictured step-by-step guides describing which GUI element to click. Just make sure that you don't copy-paste code from non-trustable sources, but that should be a given like not executing shady .exes on Windows.
>>51838992
that will never hapoen because of the GPL
>>51839456
what i think he meant is use osx to see how sweet it could never be as long as it's being developed by amateurs (by definition)
Linux: good not great
>>51838910
It's not that hard to understand. If Linux and corporations offered more game support, the userbase would skyrocket. No doubt about it.
>>51839497
It would take a long time tho since most people game on windows doubt a game dev would focus on linux.
>>51839497
there's already been a big push for it through Steam, and there are a surprising amount of big games that get Linux ports. But if the AAA studios don't launch their titles with Linux support then it isn't happening.
>>51839497
uh sure. what if developers asked to be compensated for all the work they poured into making all that compatibility?
i know i'd want compensation. it takes a long time to get it right. do you think it's just magic? that we just sit around, and if we type on the keyboard enough games will start happening? drivers will just manifest themselves and be compatible with every nth degree of hardware and possible hardware combinations?
the only reason mac osx and windows are starting to be free is the corporations have matured enough that they don't need to charge for the purchase of the os to recuperate their expenses.
>>51839325
Also remember that this can only be completed on a think pad laptop.
>>51839497
nobody gives a shit about games anymore. they are all the same exact shit. VR will reset the entire gaming industry and Windows current gaming dominance won't count for shit, in the VR era.
>>51839516
I've been waiting for a good tsw linux port for a while they keep saying they will do it but it hasn't happened. I've noticed that a lot of devs say they will port to linux but never do it.
>>51839516
that will never happen for these reasons
>OpenGL is shit
>there are too many variations of linux desktop api to make a user interface for, and GTK is shit as well. cocoa or gtfo
>too many file systems to support
>too many kernels to support
>>51839536
stop posting
>>51839533
and the you need to have long finger nails and take shitty trap pics every day
>>51839553
Then watch kali linux videos and explain to your friends how linux is 4 hackers. Which you do all day everyday.
>>51839552
if you're not a futurist you really don't belong on a technology subreddit
>>51839570
and then tell everyone else who doesn't enjoy anime to fuck off
>>51838598
Caboolture
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Learn to use systemd. It is an extremely powerful tool.
