So, technology experts. What's a good file hosting service one can trust?
>10 GB free
>never deleted
>respects your privacy
Yandex.Disk seems pretty good.
Apparently these two sites are serious competitors to the major file storage players.
http://yun.baidu.com/
http://www.weiyun.com/
Can't find the registration form tho.
roll your own you stupid fuck, even one on a rpi or other sbc would work for your shit.
>>51802631
because they are chink services.
>>51802755
nigger how are you going to get files from outside lan?
>>51802608
>rent shitty server for $15/year
>install owncloud
if you're gonna upload to existing services, you'll have to encrypt your data BEFORE uploading anyway if you care about privacy
>>51802799
Does zipping the files with a password count as encryption?
>>51802798
i'll let you figure that out, dumb cunt
>>51802814
oh please enlighten me you fucking cunt, and dont give me subdomaining freedns
>>51802798
Run a webserver you fucking idiot and forward port
>>51802805
7zip with aes
>>51802805
that's your choice, really. if it seems sufficient for you, sure.
>>51802608
www.mega.nz
>>51802846
You still have to encrypt the metadata though
>>51802834
>remembering 4 bytes is past my abilities
>>51802841
are you fucking kidding me? what is a webserver without static/ip, domain name? you can subdomain free shit and most ip lookup service limits wan query to once per 10 min. so you are going to put up with daily 10 min downtime you fucking pleb? If you are getting static ip and domain name you might as well pay for the fucking service
>>51802874
>isp not providing static ip for free
pleb
>>51802798
use the internet
>>51802888
>being from jewrica
what country are you from anyway?
>>51802874
>might as well pay for the fucking service
Not same anon but why arent you running a pi webserver. Its a fun side project. Costs less than 50 bucks and you never have to worry. Plus entire yearly cost is like 5 bucks
>>51802874
It's not that hard you fucking retard. http://www.mooo.com/.
But yeah I agree with you and >>51802799
rent a VPS.
>>51802894
Hungary (small shithole in east eu)
>>51802608
ownCloud
>>51802874
fucking cry more you little shit.
>muh free service
>muh entitlement
enjoy being the product you fuck
>>51802894
america
>>51802608
owncloud
>>51802755
What if you're trying to get files AWAY from the local area network in case of disaster?
>>51802874
>Have "dynamic" IP address from ISP
>Supposed to pay more for static
>IP address hasn't changed in like 3 years
>>51802874
>paying cash instead of writing a script to update your website DNS settings on boot / connection change
pure retard
>>51803193
VPS
Ask a friend if you can set up a server at his house. I have 3 servers, one at my parent's, one at home and one at my friend's.
>>51802631
>chinks
>implying 30 of them won't be pouring over your files data mining and selling your identity.
LOL
Seafile, it's FSF-approved.
>>51803193
give me a situation where you want this. I guess if your house is burning down might be one.
I'd figure you'd take your laptop with you, and would have a synced instance there.
>>51803172
>owncloud
>go to site
>scroll down
>their twitter
>this
yea...no.
>>51803288
pls see how look the guys who do all the opensource projects and loonix repos, they are assburgers in the core.
>>51803288
>le fedora
better go back to condoleezzabox, or maybe putindex.
good thing you avoided a fedora
>>51803315
*tip*
>>51803320
Kek'd
>>51803228
do you even dns propagation?
>>51802856
>swedish government hosted webservice that openly cooperates with inteligence agencies and is not really encrypted at all
nope
>>51802608
I bought a VPS with a quad core, 2GB ram and 60GB SSd storage.
I run my own drive there now. Easy. Done.
>>51802608
1TB, fast, free, encrypted, NL-hosted:
https://www.transip.nl/stack/
>>51803288
kek. But ownCloud is the way to go nonetheless.
https://syncthing.net/
>>51803690
does it have key-based syncing yet? endless authorizing made me uninstall.
>>51803669
So how do they make money then?
>>51803690
I'm running this, so far it's been pretty good.
It's surprisingly CPU-heavy while synchronizing though.
>>51803791
are you using compression
>>51802608
TransIP, Stacks.
1TB free, servers in the netherlands.
>>51803723
by selling your soul
>>51802608
>"FREE FREE FREE"
this is what's wrong with the internet
>>51804978
>the internet used to be so much better when you had to pay 10 bucks to post on a shitty forum.
Forget about the best existing option. What is the best theoretical option?
What do you wish existed?
>>51803669
>>51804863
I don't get it, what's the catch?
Also, I'l just leave this here
https://www.google.com/search?q=copy&oq=copy&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60j0l4.1253j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8#q=copy+cloud
>>51805599
>dropbox
>no analysis of your files
>>51802858
it can
>>51803196
are you retarded?
>>51805599
The catch is you can't use it if you're not in the Netherlands
>>51802795
>>51803236
I'm not sure if I would trust baidu could with your personal data but baidu cloud is AMAZING for piracy. Sometimes even better than torrents. You can find almost anything on there.
>>51805949
Never been more happy I'm a Dutchfag
The 'cloud' is for plebeians too lazy to host their own data. Host it yourself, your private data is no one else's business but yours.
Drop the box baby
>>51802856
NO
KIM DOTCOM HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE UNTRUSTABLE OFTEN ENOUGH
>>51802902
>hungary
>east eu
Confirmed retard
>>51802608
Google Drive
>>51802798
Portforwarding you dumb nigger.
>>51802608
I use box.net, I like it
>>51802608
MEGA
>>51802906
>>51809240
I love when yuros get confused about this. If I go to Peru, and some Peruvian asks me "Where are you from?" and I say "America" he doesn't respond "Me too, what country?" he knows I mean the USA. This is true in non retarded countries in Yuro too, like Germany and Switzerland. Same in Korean and China. No one is confused, except by butthurt people like you, when you tell them you're from America.
>>51809774
Yeah, I guess Peruvians understand that Americans don't get geography in school.
>>51809220
what do you use?
>>51809774
am swiss, can confirm that swiss people are well educated and understand that the average burgerlander doesn't know the difference between america and USA. we pretend you're normal so you don't get sad.
http://www.weiyun.com/
here
>>51811251
where do i change the language to non-ogaboga?
Owncloud is nice but
https://github.com/owncloud/client/issues/179
>>51802858
You stupid motherfucker. Kim Dotcom himself said mega is no longer trustworthy.
Okay
What's a good cheap VPS I can rent?
>>51812085
digital ocean, ramnode, linode
but you can also check out lowendbox too.
using a server with 512 MB ram, and have my website hosted on it with owncloud, ttrss, and wallabag instances running. so you won't need a monster computer.
>>51803236
yeah
americans are DEFINITELY NOT DOING THAT RIGHT GUYS!?!?!
>>51809774
we are not confused you fucking idiot
we just laugh at retards that don't know the name of their own country
>>51802608
IPFS
>>51812085
ramnode
>>51812590
/thread
>>51805963
at 40kbps but still worth it
>>51809774
lel, when someone says they're "from america" we just assume they mean the united states, because only people from the u.s. say that
A self-hosted Seafile server is literally the best option
You cannot name a better alternative
>>51815045
IPFS is literally better in every single way.
>>51815070
Explain
>>51815092
See ipfs.io for more details. There's also a video at ipfs.io/ipfs/QmSd1buim52MtQP1S
2XhN7FC8c1KdFrFKBNmgdUKFdss8/Stanford%20Seminar%20-%20Juan%20Benet%20of%20Protocol%20Labs.webm explaining further.
>>51815164
Looks neat, but from what I can see it doesn't nearly have as many features as Seafile, like automatic file-syncing and whatnot. How is this better in every way?
>>51814994
The United States? That could refer to either the United States of America or the United States of Mexico (and possibly some other countries)
>>51815045
sea file is damn good for private file hosting
for public image hosting use a fork of sr.ht
>>51802798
lol
>>51802814
>>51802841
>>51802891
>>51808509
he thinks yandex is encrypted cause Cyrillic moonrunes
>>51815203
IPFS is a pull medium. Combined with dynamic names (ipns), one can automatically pull the latest version of a file through a fixed address; only blocks which aren't already available locally get re-downloaded. Moreover, files being content-addressed, if you add something that is already available in the network, all you're doing is acting as an additional seed for the same content (i.e. the content is automatically seeded by any node that has ever pinned, seen, or "uploaded" the content, where "uploaded" really just means you added an entry in your part of the DHT). It is fully decentralized and distributed, and all communications are encrypted. No such luck with seafile.
>>51802608
>respects your privacy
>Yandex
FUCKING KEK
>>51815284
ipfs shill, i will not get on the ride until it is more mature.
suggesting this for simple cloud setup is hilarious.
>>51802631
>chink shit
Nope. Take it from someone who lived in Shanghai for a year.
>>51815435
It is the very definition of ideal for cloud stuff. As usual, the Luddites don't know what they're saying.
Why would you use anything besides Google Drive or dropbox?
>>51815492
>why would you use anything besides botnet spy and spybox?
>>51815492
Because they're idiots thinking that the govt gives a shit about their anime furry porn or even has the necessary processing power to make their "dreams" a reality.
>>51815521
Nice meme
>>51815476
>you are luddite if you don't join in the new thing at the pre-alpha stage
fuck off
>>51815558
What's wrong, anon? Did technology touch you in your special place? Show us on the doll where the technology touched you.
>>51815568
done replying to you, enjoy your still in the crib shit
>>51815599
It's OK, anon, some people thought of vaccines in the same way, and not all of them died an early, painful and unnecessary death caused purely by their own Ludditeness!
>>51802608
>file hosting
>trust
Anything you can put VeraCrypt containers on should be fine.
>>51802608
I use drive.
Docs/slides are saved to it by default, google photos is unlimited storage, and it works better with google applications.
>>51811715
>You stupid motherfucker. Kim Dotcom himself said mega is no longer trustworthy.
source?
>>51816123
>I can't do the simplest tasks for myself please spoonfeed me
>>51816143
> According to Dotcom, the company is in the hands of a Chinese investor who is wanted for fraud in China, and has consequently had his shares seized by the New Zealand government, putting it in effective control of the company.
fuggg...
it's all ogre isn't it?
>>51805949
You're shitting me. What, do they trace IPs or some shit? That's racist. Its the fucking internet.
>>51816968
i think he was meming.
stack is quite nice, too bad the free tb doesn't come with backups of all versions of your stuff like dropbox (understandable though)
>>51803196
I was in the same situation for a good 5+ years but it just changed recently. Twice, even.
>>51805919
There was literally nothing wrong with what he said you fucking autist.
>>51810049
sshfs
>>51811715
>>51816167
scammer got scammed and cries about it, you know why Kim had to live in NZ right? He scammed a bunch of people in germany and had to skip country.
>>51818977
so self hosted
>>51819093
as long as it's properly encrypted keeping it in the cloud is not that big of a deal, no one has the resources to decrypt your little package, let alone if it's among petabytes of other cloud storage
>>51819147
>as long as it's properly encrypted keeping it in the cloud is not that big of a deal
Only a handful of people do so. Plus, they'll just keep collecting your meta data anyway. Encrypting your file on some free Chinese cloud storage is actually a pseudo solution to the problem, namely that you're just too lazy to host it yourself, using proper crypto.
>>51819201
>Only a handful of people do so.
So? My point still stands.
>Encrypting your file on some free Chinese cloud storage
no one said you offload the encryption to the 3rd party - you do it yourself on your hardware first, and use cloud as a glorified pendrive
>>51819317
>So? My point still stands.
So, those that do misplaced their trust in a placebo.
>>Encrypting your file on some free Chinese cloud storage
>no one said you offload the encryption to the 3rd party - you do it yourself on your hardware first, and use cloud as a glorified pendrive
I didn't say so either. You're just too lazy to host yourself, taking charge of your own means of confidentiality, without getting spied on, using proper crypto, and on your terms and conditions®™ only.
>>51819377
do you even have a point or you just like to ramble?
oh btw define "host yourself" exactly.
>>51819583
Host *it* yourself. How are you not getting this?
>>51819583
>oh btw define "host yourself" exactly.
don't use servers you don't own
>>51819680
>>51819696
"hosting yourself" can mean a number of things
- getting a vps from a company like amazon, ovh, etc ($)
- renting a dedicated server from a company like ovh ($$)
- buying your own server and sending it to colo ($$$)
- buying your server and hosting it at your own colo ($$$$$)
Except the last one all of these are practically like using cloud storage.
So let me repeat - as long as it's properly encrypted keeping it in the cloud is not that big of a deal.
>>51819860
Firstly, there's no such thing as the cloud. Please keep /g/ clean of cheap buzz words. Moreover, judging from your examples, apparently it hasn't crossed your mind to host your own data on a system *you* own, on *your* premise.
>So let me repeat - as long as it's properly encrypted keeping it in the cloud is not that big of a deal.
It actually is. It's simple, they don't give away a service for free out of sheer goodness in their hearts. It just means they get their money using other means, typically by knowing as much as they can about you so that they can *sell* that to the highest bidder.
Encryption on other people's systems will only get you get you so far. Your meta data is still personal identifiable information as well, therefore it's not a good solution to the problem as there are better alternatives.
So let me repeat - host it yourself. Don't be lazy.
>>51820036
>Firstly, there's no such thing as the cloud.
It's like being offended by the word laptop and insisting on use of "portable computer". Time to grow up.
>Moreover, judging from your examples, apparently it hasn't crossed your mind to host your own data on a system *you* own, on *your* premise.
Looks like you never heard of off-site backup - a single fire, burglary, flooding, police raid or other external sources will destroy or remove your original and backup - you're a genius.
>It actually is. It's simple, they don't give away a service for free out of sheer goodness in their hearts. It just means they get their money using other means, typically by knowing as much as they can about you so that they can *sell* that to the highest bidder.
it's a conspiracy!
it must be the Jews again.
it's not like they can make money just by selling additional storage.
>Encryption on other people's systems will only get you get you so far.
You encrypt it yourself and store it in cloud.
>Your meta data is still personal identifiable information as well, therefore it's not a good solution to the problem as there are better alternatives.
ok how much meta data can you extract from 15 encrypted blobs 2G each?
is it one file that was split?
or are all of them separate?
is it an archive?
is it junk?
No one besides me knows.
Not to mention some services encrypt it on client side as well so they have no idea what they keep anyway (i would encrypt it myself anyway before sending it in).
>So let me repeat - host it yourself. Don't be lazy.
It's not about being lazy, just being smart with your money and your time.
Without a pretty considerable investment you can't store things off site, making the cloud a safer and cheaper choice.
>>51820324
>off-site backup
Simple. Use data at rest encryption of your precious data in threefold, on two different mediums, one stored elsewhere where corporate and monopolistic companies aren't watching your every move.
>it's a conspiracy!
>it must be the Jews again.
Your words, not mine. And picking on Jews is so very typical 'round these parts it's tiring.
>You encrypt it yourself and store it in cloud.
Leaving countless of footprints. I trust you're familiar with meta data.
>ok how much meta data can you extract from 15 encrypted blobs 2G each?
>is it one file that was split?
>or are all of them separate?
>is it an archive?
>is it junk?
>No one besides me knows.
>Not to mention some services encrypt it on client side as well so they have no idea what they keep anyway (i would encrypt it myself anyway before sending it in).
They know your locations everywhere you go, they can make an educated guess of the content based on traffic size every connection. They can still do trend analysis and data mining based on when, where and how long you use their services just by looking at incoming connections. Valuable information to sell.
>It's not about being lazy, just being smart with your money and your time.
>considerable investment
All you need is the equivalent computational power of a Raspberry Pi. Last I checked they're around $30 which you can place where ever. A monthly rsync cron job and you're done.
>>51820523
>>off-site backup
>Simple. Use data at rest encryption of your precious data in threefold, on two different mediums, one stored elsewhere where corporate and monopolistic companies aren't watching your every move.
"one stored elsewhere" - you mean like in the cloud?
>>You encrypt it yourself and store it in cloud.
>Leaving countless of footprints. I trust you're familiar with meta data.
there is no meta data in cipher text
>They know your locations everywhere you go,
who does?
> they can make an educated guess of the content based on traffic size every connection.
All they can say is that I transmitted 20G of something.
Was it dd from /dev/random or my pictures - no one but me can tell.
>They can still do trend analysis and data mining based on when, where and how long you use their services just by looking at incoming connections. Valuable information to sell.
ok i just stored eight 5Gig blobs each.
What was in them?.
>>It's not about being lazy, just being smart with your money and your time.
>>considerable investment
>All you need is the equivalent computational power of a Raspberry Pi. Last I checked they're around $30 which you can place where ever. A monthly rsync cron job and you're done.
Let's stop living in fantasy world where "place where ever" is a valid concept. In reality when you get this pi you have to place it somewhere. If it's in your house it's not off site - a single robbery or fire will destroy all of your data.
If you store it on someones premises it's basically cloud storage type of deal with all the hassle of dealing with getting it connected, serviced and protected.
Cloud wins again.
>>51820699
>"one stored elsewhere" - you mean like in the cloud?
No. I trust you'll agree elsewhere isn't the cloud by definition.
>there is no meta data in cipher text
Not in, *about*.
>who does?
Your storage provider, of course. And possibly the government if they court order your records without notifying you.
>All they can say is that I transmitted 20G of something.
>Was it dd from /dev/random or my pictures - no one but me can tell.
20G isn't saying much. Did you mean gigabyte (GB) or gibibyte (GiB)? Which they can correlate to all other meta data they gather. Stateless protocols may even unveil the presence of separate files, instead of one big blob.
>ok i just stored eight 5Gig blobs each.
>What was in them?.
8*5 = 40, but meta data pertains to data about the content. It's descriptive in nature as I'm sure you're aware.
>Let's stop living in fantasy world where "place where ever" is a valid concept. In reality when you get this pi you have to place it somewhere. If it's in your house it's not off site - a single robbery or fire will destroy all of your data.
I really meant off-site, as in, not on the same site. Again, your precious 'cloud' is not the only solution for off-site storage.
>>51820946
>Your storage provider, of course
how does my storage provider know where I went this morning?
>20G isn't saying much. Did you mean gigabyte (GB) or gibibyte (GiB)?
assume former, assume latter and answer. There will be a different answer for both cases since you asked witch one is it...?
>Which they can correlate to all other meta data they gather. Stateless protocols may even unveil the presence of separate files, instead of one big blob.
again - who is *they*.
storage provider sees only a blob, they have no way of telling if it's data or garbage.
I know you heard about this meta data thing on arse technica or something, but it's not mesmerizing me, since I know you're using it where it does not apply.
>I really meant off-site, as in, not on the same site. Again, your precious 'cloud' is not the only solution for off-site storage.
ok so what off-site do you use right this very moment tinfoil-kun?
And how it's better and cheaper than 0$ cloud I'm using right now.
>>51820946
>>51821153
with most *nix tools, "M", "G", "T", etc are always using binary prefix (*iB)
>>51821153
>how does my storage provider know where I went this morning?
Your IP address.
>assume former, assume latter and answer. There will be a different answer for both cases since you asked witch one is it...?
For all I know your 'G' might have been an abbreviation for grapefruits, in which case my answer would have been different, yes.
>again - who is *they*.
>storage provider sees only a blob, they have no way of telling if it's data or garbage.
They (again, your storage provider and potentially the authorities) see much more than just a blob as I've already told you as well, my naive anon.
>I know you heard about this meta data thing on arse technica or something, but it's not mesmerizing me, since I know you're using it where it does not apply.
Ars is hardly one's only source of information. I don't doubt you don't know what meta data is, but it seems to me you have a little more difficulty grasping what it may reveal about you.
>ok so what off-site do you use right this very moment tinfoil-kun?
I take it with me. Yes, when I'm at home and the house burns down everything is lost when I die, but then I don't have much need for it in the afterlife.
>And how it's better and cheaper than 0$ cloud I'm using right now.
It's not $0, you're paying for it by using it. I don't have that, plus I'd know if it has been confiscated (they'd have to it from me). Your service will continue as always because they just replicate your data to other servers. You wouldn't find out and they won't even tell you.
>>51821625
>>how does my storage provider know where I went this morning?
>Your IP address.
IP of my pc at home will tell them where I am and what I do outside my house?
how does that work?
>>assume former, assume latter and answer. There will be a different answer for both cases since you asked witch one is it...?
>For all I know your 'G' might have been an abbreviation for grapefruits, in which case my answer would have been different, yes.
still haven't answered, and we both know why.
I wonder what you will pick in this paragraph to avoid admitting you can't.
Maybe a spelling error or grammar - these are usual choices to avoid the topic.
I know "oh if you already think I can't then I won't" - the classic.
>They (again, your storage provider and potentially the authorities) see much more than just a blob
how?
>Ars is hardly one's only source of information. I don't doubt you don't know what meta data is, but it seems to me you have a little more difficulty grasping what it may reveal about you.
if I don't send them any there is nothing to revel. unless you're talking about that they will know that I sent them something that I wanted them to store for me. Then yes, they kinda know about it.
>>ok so what off-site do you use right this very moment tinfoil-kun?
>I take it with me. Yes, when I'm at home and the house burns down everything is lost when I die, but then I don't have much need for it in the afterlife.
so one police raid and you loose access to all of your data.
>>And how it's better and cheaper than 0$ cloud I'm using right now.
>It's not $0, you're paying for it by using it. I don't have that,
well I did not have to buy a panies drive and the space I'm using is free. Kinda feels like 0$.
>plus I'd know if it has been confiscated (they'd have to it from me). Your service will continue as always because they just replicate your data to other servers. You wouldn't find out and they won't even tell you.
It's still encrypted, twice.
>>51821867
>IP of my pc at home will tell them where I am and what I do outside my house?
>how does that work?
Every device that you connect, of course. Not just you computer at home. You know this. This was about where you are, not what you do.
>still haven't answered, and we both know why.
>I wonder what you will pick in this paragraph to avoid admitting you can't.
>Maybe a spelling error or grammar - these are usual choices to avoid the topic.
>I know "oh if you already think I can't then I won't" - the classic.
Yes, because sending 20 grapefruits will not get you very far. But then I already answered your question which you seem to avoid. When you upload any size of data (maybe grapefruits in your case), one may still see that there were multiple files or grapefruits sent instead of one big blob of traffic.
>how?
They see your location, how much time you're spending there each time you use the service, etc etc. I know you're tired the term meta data, but that's what they see. Yes, also of your encrypted files.
>if I don't send them any there is nothing to revel.
Which is always the case. If you don't send something, there's nothing. If you do use the service, then there is, of course. Many clients keep a session open, just to keep polling for new data (and telemetry, probably).
>so one police raid and you loose access to all of your data.
Not without a warrant, and they'd still have to find it. I'll give you a hint. It's not in my anus.
>Kinda feels like 0$.
And that's why everybody is using it. They 'feel' it doesn't cost them anything, but you and I know better.
>It's still encrypted, twice.
Not your meta data, of both the TLS session, and the content they store on their servers in China and Russia. People know a lot about you. And encrypting your data twice doesn't necessarily mean it's better. For a classic example, look doing a ROT13 twice, or 2DES.
>>51822417
>>>>>>>They know your locations everywhere you go,
>>>>>>who does?
>>>>>Your storage provider, of course. And possibly the government if they court order your records without notifying you.
>>>>how does my storage provider know where I went this morning?
>>>Your IP address.
>>IP of my pc at home will tell them where I am and what I do outside my house?
>>how does that work?
>Every device that you connect, of course. Not just you computer at home. You know this. This was about where you are, not what you do.
read this again - you claim my storage provider knows where I went based on IP of my desktop computer.
>When you upload any size of data (maybe grapefruits in your case), one may still see that there were multiple files or grapefruits sent instead of one big blob of traffic.
but what I upload before was already encrypted by me. I'm not uploading anything but a blob from my hard drive and no one can tell if it's full of my pictures or just random noise. they can't tell anything of substance about any of it. so what if anyone knows that I transferred 30Gigs of data - you know it too but you don't know what was in it anyway.
>>It's still encrypted, twice.
>Not your meta data, of both the TLS session, and the content they store on their servers in China and Russia. People know a lot about you.
unless i'm targeted by some sort of agency this is worthless data and if i'm targeted (and there is no reason for me to be) they will to an evil maid type attack at my home without me even noticing and I will open by computer for them not even knowing it.
>And encrypting your data twice doesn't necessarily mean it's better. For a classic example, look doing a ROT13 twice, or 2DES.
again - encrypt your data at home - that’s the one that protects the data.
upload it to cloud of your choice - if it encrypts in browser 2nd time based on your password and server stored key - cool - extra layer if they get breached.
>>51823013
>read this again - you claim my storage provider knows where I went based on IP of my desktop computer.
No, I didn't mention your PC, you did. They know where you are, not where you went. Needless to say this also applies to every other device that you connect.
>but what I upload before was already encrypted by me. I'm not uploading anything but a blob from my hard drive and no one can tell if it's full of my pictures or just random noise. they can't tell anything of substance about any of it. so what if anyone knows that I transferred 30Gigs of data - you know it too but you don't know what was in it anyway.
That's only assuming you really upload one static blob, instead of multiple files that get encrypted locally in an incremented way like eCryptfs does, which technically is a much more efficient way as this eliminates the issue of synchronising 30 grapefruits every time you change a file.
>unless i'm targeted by some sort of agency this is worthless data and if i'm targeted (and there is no reason for me to be) they will to an evil maid type attack at my home without me even noticing and I will open by computer for them not even knowing it.
It's definitely not worthless data. It's every modern company's new wet dream to know as much they can about you because they can sell it, in bulk, for a lot of money. Yes, at the very least you're encrypting your data, but this doesn't mean you're in the clear. Not in the slightest. They're also selling your meta data.
>again - encrypt your data at home - that’s the one that protects the data.
>upload it to cloud of your choice - if it encrypts in browser 2nd time based on your password and server stored key - cool - extra layer if they get breached.
I'm aware, like a GPG encrypted archive (application layer) sent over TLS when in transit (session layer). Doesn't get rid of your footprints though, which is worth money.
Owncloud
>>51823344
>>read this again - you claim my storage provider knows where I went based on IP of my desktop computer.
>No, I didn't mention your PC, you did. They know where you are, not where you went. Needless to say this also applies to every other device that you connect.
So if I only upload it from home, then what’s the problem?
>That's only assuming you really upload one static blob, instead of multiple files that get encrypted locally in an incremented way like eCryptfs does, which technically is a much more efficient way as this eliminates the issue of synchronising 30 grapefruits every time you change a file.
ever heard of de-duplication and differential backups?
>>unless i'm targeted by some sort of agency this is worthless data and if i'm targeted (and there is no reason for me to be) they will to an evil maid type attack at my home without me even noticing and I will open by computer for them not even knowing it.
>It's definitely not worthless data. It's every modern company's new wet dream to know as much they can about you because they can sell it, in bulk, for a lot of money. Yes, at the very least you're encrypting your data, but this doesn't mean you're in the clear. Not in the slightest. They're also selling your meta data.
ok go and sell that ip 154.23.2.3 uploaded ten 5G files each that look like random data.
I feel so violated...
>I'm aware, like a GPG encrypted archive (application layer) sent over TLS when in transit (session layer). Doesn't get rid of your footprints though, which is worth money.
i don't know why you're on 4chan, they can track that you say correlating your bursts of data and timestamps in threads. not only that - they will know what you wrote and what you think, in my case they only know i stored something, can't tell what it was even if they had access to it.
>>51824439
>So if I only upload it from home, then what’s the problem?
Then you're not taking downloading elsewhere into account.
>ever heard of de-duplication and differential backups?
Yes I have. How would you do that with encrypted data? Because methinks you're still sending the whole blob.
>ok go and sell that ip 154.23.2.3 uploaded ten 5G files each that look like random data.
>I feel so violated...
That's not everything they know. That's just one session of one user. They know where you were. They also know how frequent you (or others when shared) access the files, also from where. They can build a whole profile of you and similar users with similar patterns. I'm sure this can be expanded, this is just from the top of my head. You may not feel violated, but that doesn't make it any less their business, because it is. The company hides behind the terms of service you agreed to, and you'll hide behind a cool free service you get in exchange for, in your eyes, harmless personal identifiable information. At least they don't know the actual content of your data, that counts for something. I hope it's worth it.
>i don't know why you're on 4chan, they can track that you say correlating your bursts of data and timestamps in threads. not only that - they will know what you wrote and what you think
Yes of course, the same applies to you.
>in my case they only know i stored something, can't tell what it was even if they had access to it.
Not only, they know you're here too, just like me. My *private* data however is under my control, without relying on a snooping company. And don't think I don't do encryption.
>>51824791
>>ever heard of de-duplication and differential backups?
>Yes I have. How would you do that with encrypted data? Because methinks you're still sending the whole blob.
Imagine you can apply encryption on the result of a differential backup. Magic.
>>ok go and sell that ip 154.23.2.3 uploaded ten 5G files each that look like random data.
>>I feel so violated...
>That's not everything they know. That's just one session of one user. They know where you were. They also know how frequent you (or others when shared) access the files, also from where. They can build a whole profile of you and similar users with similar patterns. I'm sure this can be expanded, this is just from the top of my head. You may not feel violated, but that doesn't make it any less their business, because it is. The company hides behind the terms of service you agreed to, and you'll hide behind a cool free service you get in exchange for, in your eyes, harmless personal identifiable information. At least they don't know the actual content of your data, that counts for something. I hope it's worth it.
I would kinda get it if we where talking about storing your raw pictures on facebook, google photos or something, but this does not apply here.
>>i don't know why you're on 4chan, they can track that you say correlating your bursts of data and timestamps in threads. not only that - they will know what you wrote and what you think
>Yes of course, the same applies to you.
so why do you risk posting here - "they" will profile you and sell all that super valuable data "they" have on you.
>>in my case they only know i stored something, can't tell what it was even if they had access to it.
>Not only, they know you're here too, just like me.
you're delusional.
my cloud host does not know that I'm here if they do - prove it.
>>51826181
>Imagine you can apply encryption on the result of a differential backup. Magic.
Ah, that would partially explain it. Sure, that could work, but wouldn't an rsync be easier?
>I would kinda get it if we where talking about storing your raw pictures on facebook, google photos or something, but this does not apply here.
That's even worse.
>so why do you risk posting here - "they" will profile you and sell all that super valuable data "they" have on you.
Because of discussions like this, I think they're interesting. Some people may also take notes. Others don't.
>you're delusional.
>my cloud host does not know that I'm here if they do - prove it.
I would be, but I wasn't talking about your storage provider, mate.
>>51802834
vpn m8
>>51802608
Use a third-party app like Arq to do your own encryption prior to upload. Then, it doesn't really matter what service you use, as far as privacy is concerned. And, since privacy/security is the biggest concern by far when using cloud services, the picture becomes a lot simpler.
>>51826369
>>Imagine you can apply encryption on the result of a differential backup. Magic.
>Ah, that would partially explain it. Sure, that could work, but wouldn't an rsync be easier?
how exactly?
>>you're delusional.
>>my cloud host does not know that I'm here if they do - prove it.
>I would be, but I wasn't talking about your storage provider, mate.
so there is no harm in using it.
>>51802608
Your own. Simply a USB stick on my OpenWRT router. With DDNS, I can access it anywhere.
>>51802631
Can't find any transcript of any sign of signing..
Advice rather than just copy past in search bar in google.
>>51826733
>how exactly?
It could complicate your situation, because you're dealing with big blobs of data, and sending over differential backups later. I also don't think your storage provider supports SSH. However, when using a solution that transparently encrypts files when copied (like EncFS, not eCryptfs like I mentioned earlier, sorry), you're only copying over the changed files, avoiding the need to hassle with differential backups. You could mirror your files to your mounted EncFS folder using rsync, which can also keep permissions, timestamps and what not.
I mostly use rsync to copy over data from one machine to another using SSH, but it also works from folder to folder locally, of course. If you're OK with being spied on like I've bothered you with more than enough by now, you might want to consider this approach.
>>>you're delusional.
>>>my cloud host does not know that I'm here if they do - prove it.
>>I would be, but I wasn't talking about your storage provider, mate.
>so there is no harm in using it.
4chan knows you're on 4chan of course, they also know I am, because of our IP addresses.
Your storage provider, separate discussion here, knows you are using their services as well, of course. 'Their' referring to your storage provider, not 4chan.
The difference between your case and mine is that I don't have a third party storage provider for my private data. Like I said, they know *a lot* about you, except for the actual content you send over. Apparently you're OK with that, and that works out for you. I disagree with you of course but mind you, me disagreeing does not mean I don't respect someone whom I disagree with. I'm not trying to change your mind or force something down your throat. I just like to argue, sharing my thoughts and having a good discussion. You're at least more reasonable than most people here.
>>51802755
This doesn't work unless you're Internet is fiber. I'm on docsis 3 with 240 download but only 24 up. Assuming it never ever goes down its still too slow.
>>51802798
That's just embarrassing
>>51802631
Oh boy I remember registering on that shitty site. What a pain in the ass that was. Thankfully I still have my acc, I just have to find the login form...
Anyway, does anyone hare actually use that shit? They give you 1TB iirc, are the upload speeds good?
>>51827589
NEVER go anywhere near baidu: they're a (chinese) government-sanctioned nation-wide illegal operation. They participate in drug trade, human experimentation, data theft and commercialization (that one you should care about most), and are a major player in the ML/big data/statistics field because of all the information they collect.
>>51827662
>They participate [...] are a major player in the ML/big data/statistics field because of all the information they collect.
Yeah that was obvious, I just wanted to hear some stories. I mean I often see it mentioned, but I newer see people posting about their experience. Besides, it might be useful as an additional backup, I mean they can't collect much data from an encrypted archive, can they?
>>51827747
forgot to delete participate, fug. Also, "newer", wtf.
>>51827747
Yeah, if it's encrypted locally then they obviously can't peer (yet). Use an algorithm not based on prime factorization to be sure, though. I don't know if baidu offers much service to non-chinese, but given their state of affairs in china, they can be expected to be as reliable (if not more so) than google.
>>51827785
Well I was thinking of using 7zip, it uses AES-256. They don't offer their site in English, but IPs outside of china aren't banned.
>>51827830
Seriously though anon, how do I sign up there? I can't understand it.
>Get a year of Amazon Cloud Drive for $5
>Mount it as a filesystem
>Set up automatic caching
>Use EncFS to encrypt everything before it uploads
Oh wow that was hard. I've already uploaded my entire media library. Apparently the limit is almost 100 TB.
>>51828136
wait a sec, I'll check it out. I think I used google translate to translate the whole site. They also require you to install some shitty app to sign up, not sure about that though.
>>51828136
>>51828202
yeah I think you have to register here: http://zc.qq.com/en/index.html?from=pt
>>51828236
Cheers.
The server is busy at the mo tho.
Jottacloud
>>51802608
Buy a reserved EC2 instance and install Owncloud on it. If you're feeling extra ambitious, use Azure and get Owncloud and integrate it with AD.
>>51827221
>>how exactly?
>It could complicate your situation, because you're dealing with big blobs of data, and sending over differential backups later. I also don't think your storage provider supports SSH. However, when using a solution that transparently encrypts files when copied (like EncFS, not eCryptfs like I mentioned earlier, sorry), you're only copying over the changed files, avoiding the need to hassle with differential backups. You could mirror your files to your mounted EncFS folder using rsync, which can also keep permissions, timestamps and what not.
>I mostly use rsync to copy over data from one machine to another using SSH, but it also works from folder to folder locally, of course. If you're OK with being spied on like I've bothered you with more than enough by now, you might want to consider this approach.
in my approach i can roll back data to initial blob or any differential blobs in between.
in yours if one of your files get overwritten/deleted by mistake or error you rsync the changes and destroy the backup of it on next synch.
and again that ssh server would have to be rented or virtual, so might as well use cloud storage on my encrypted blobs.
>>51828775
>in my approach i can roll back data to initial blob or any differential blobs in between.
>in yours if one of your files get overwritten/deleted by mistake or error you rsync the changes and destroy the backup of it on next synch.
Which you have to download in their entirety, figuring out exactly which blobs you would need, but yes, you can do this. Eventually this may happen to you too when you start a full backup again of course.
>and again that ssh server would have to be rented or virtual, so might as well use cloud storage on my encrypted blobs.
I wasn't referring to any SSH server.
>>51815215
People from US of Mexico just say "Mexico".
>>51829048
Referring to the 'US' may express unintentional ambiguity. Many people in the Netherlands say they're from Holland, while in fact Holland is just a part of the Netherlands.
Another example. I'd be somewhat upset if I'm being served spaghetti when I ordered for noodles.
