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>>51781898
first for master race
Good evening family
>>51794075
I have the original version of those headphones (they have gold trim instead of silver).
Still good cans? Are there any differences btwn the two versions?
>>51793643
>>51793817
>>51793639
>>51794170
when will the Shillheiserberg meme end? literally recommending people no bass, sharp treble, and snapping headphones everyday just so you can earn a couple shekels. no respect or integrity.
go back to r/headphones
>>51794186
>HD600
As an owner of the DT880 and considering the environment we're in I'm inclined to hate you. So go fuck yourself.
Other than that sup
>>51794130
>clear Chinese plastic breaking master race
>Budget
$200
>Location
US
>Source
Motherboard
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Best i can get
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Large diversity
>Past headphones
IEM's
What's your thoughts on Philips SHP9500?
>>51794249
>implying its not only aesthetic
>implying chinese shits worse than le engineering memes
>implying sennheiser and beyerdynamic isn't worse
ISHYGDDT
>>51794386
Lack bass, can be sibilant/harsh. In that price range I'd personally get the 558's.
>>>51793681
Anyone have any input?
<$200 closed headphones with punchy bass and great soundstage? I heard somewhere that the M50x's are overrated a bit and not the best for their price
>>51794244
You hate him because he has better headphones or what?
The battle you have you have been asking for, or not: what sounds better, Sennshills or Shilips? Shp9500 vs modded 518, exactly the same 100€ on amazon. Yes Im aware of the crazy philips sales, so Ill include it in the conclusion.
Build: philips edges out, easy removable cable, classy retro design, more durable and sturdier, easy, pleasant clamping force, pads like giant pillows. Sennheiser is comfortable but they do clamp and pads are harder, but they can be worn for hours even though. Glasses wont fit under though like on the philips.
>>51794611
The sound: Simply sennheisers are easier on young ears, but people with no trouble for bright headphones will find philips accetable. But the sennheiser mops the floor with philips if you want to listen to music for hours since there is no sibilance and trebles are clear, but smooth. The bass is laughable on the philips, no presence and can be described as bassless. The sennheiser 518 originally sounded boomy but my mod completely removed that since now they sound 99% like 598s which have adequate bass, and sub bass (but not like M50s bass, but not much less). Mids are a toss up, but soundstage is on a different level for the senns, everythingbis almost pinpoint accurate in games and music compared to philips.
Conclusion: for 100€ modded 518s have shp9500 easily beat, but if you can get the philips for 60€, buy them and ignore the better sounding senns
Should I upgrade from my Superlux HD681 to Sennheiser HD 558?
What do you think about beyerdynamic DT770? Will it be ok for my request from >>51794118 ?
I own a pair of Berdynamics 990T Pro. Wonderful.
Schiit Vali amp, sounds amazing.
AKG are shit. shobby constructions. 3 friends all have the same failure point. and they all use the same crap design from their $150 - $600 model range. The plastic housing that holds the head straps down breaks far too often. Would not recommend.
>>51794486
Most people find the 215 easy enough to wear, it is decidedly bass heavy. Arguably outdone by the bulkier im70 in sound as another bass boosted set.
The RHA also have bass boost with heavier earpieces.
IM02 is a more balanced set.
How does this guide sound?
IEMs
Westone UM3X, $320-$350. Good build quality, comfort, isolation, and nearly no microphonics. These are built extremely well. Impactful well extended bass, warm smooth forward mids, smooth detailed highs. Also includes a detachable cable.
Shure SE535, $400-$420. Excellent build quality, comfort, isolation and no microphonics. Punchy well extended bass, lush full forward mids, slightly forward highs.
Audio Technica CK100, $420-$500. Unrivaled build quality, great isolation, nonexistent microphonics, and fantastic comfort. Tight and fast bass, very forward detailed mids, smooth and energetic highs. Amazing imaging and instrument separation. These are picky with their source.
Open Headphones
Sony MDR-SA5000, $345. Very detailed. Fantastic highs with excellent extension, clear analytical mids, light detailed bass. Fast headphones with excellent sound imaging.
AKG K601, $349. Rather balanced with a good soundstage. Slightly bass light, excellent mids, clear detailed highs.
HiFiMan HE-400, $400. Warm to dark sounding, good clarity, and decent level of detail.
Closed Headphones
Audio Technica ATH-ES10, $350-$370. Warm balanced sound overall with decent isolation. Strong hard hitting bass, neutral mids, smooth sparkling highs. One of the best portable full-sized to date.
Denon D5000, $350-$430. Rich and involving, forward signature. Boomy uncontrolled bass, smooth involving mids, rolled off highs. Some issues with build quality, but comfortable.
Ultrasone Pro 900, $400-$600. Deep bass that's slightly uncontrolled without an amp, slightly recessed mids, bright highs. Recommended to have an amp and to do the Kees Mod.
>>51794573
Sure why not.
>>51794502
It's pretty hard to get both soundstage and a punchy bass in one headphone. Closed headphones simply don't offer a really open soundstage. The M50x's in particular have almost no soundstage, but they do have a tight bass. They're not bad headphones, but they do sound veiled or tinny as some others have described.
AKG K551SLV or DT770 80ohm would be a decent pick for under $200.
>>51794722
Sounds like it's written by a fucking faggot.
>>51794722
>These are picky with their source.
0/10
>>51794722
reddit/10
>>51794722
Looks like it was plucked off of an out of date head-fi guide.
7 of those things are no longer in production.
>>51794650
Treble is not the smoothest, but it works,
>>51794670
>beyershills
Could anyone please explain a little bit, what is the point if having high-precedence headphones and buying amplifier to it?
>>51794648
If you listen to a lot of music, 150€ less is not anything you will notice in your bank account, be my guest. They offer superior stereo imaging, clarity and more bass. It is a good upgrade imo. I have your phones and modded 518s
>Budget:
$50 - $120 can add or subtract $10-$15
>Location:
USA, Florida.
>Source:
- onboard Realtek soundcard (ALC 1150 chip) or Asus Xonar DSX which I might get for really cheap in the future. If really neccessary, I can spend about $70-$90 on the amp/dac.
>Preferred type of headphone:
- full-sized.
>Open or closed:
- open.
>Comfort level:
- This is probably my #1 priority. I have the Superlux hd668b headphones and they sound great for its price; however, the top pads are so tight they actually created two curves in my skull. I've bent these pads as much as possible but they are still too tight. Too bad, I loved almost everything else in these headphones.
I should also add that I spend about 4-6 hours in front of the computer wearing headphones almost everyday.
>Past headphones:
- as mentioned previously, I have Superlux HD668b which I got for $32 earlier this year. I loved the sound and the fact that they are open. The detachable cable is also a nice feature.
>>51795123
Shp9500 if you can get them for 60$ bucks, otherwise senn 558
>>51795147
Thank you.
>Shp9500
Looks good.
How often do you think they go on sale?
>>51795093
>superior stereo imaging, clarity
>>51795221
They just were, so not for a while, sometime after christmas or after the hype falls down. Srsly just get senn 518, screw them open, push out plastic side and cover with speaker grill and you will have way better sound. I did the review a few posts up.
>>51795235
Yes? Anuyquestions? Do you even own both? With 518s you are able to separate instruments clearly and proper stereo imaging promotes easier positioning...
>>51795294
oh boy it's the head-fier again
>>51795091
Impedance.
>There is an inverse relation between impedance and sensitivity if everything else, even weight of voice coil and the magnetic field, are kept the same. But headphones are not created equal
>Voltage in a circuit, such as headphone plugged into computer, is distributed proportionate to the impedance of each part.
>Headphone impedance is generally not flat with frequency, it goes up and down. Exceptions are planar magnetic headphones and single dynamic driver in-ears, flat impedance across hearing.
>If the impedance of the output is too high in proportion to the headphone, voltage is wasted on the electronics before getting to the headphone
>If the headphone has an overwhelming impedance compared to the output, the voltage is basically constant at all frequencies, and the headphone gets equal voltage at all frequencies
>If we take a typical design, an electrodynamic headphone, it will have rising impedance in the midbass and highs to a lesser extent. Therefore, if you start adding constant impedance before it, less voltage gets to the headphone at frequencies besides the bass. This would make a headphone sound midbassy,
>Basically, almost all old headphone outputs were modified speaker amp outputs, and the easiest and laziest way to do this is to stick a big fat resistor in between the output and the headphone. The lazy way made it into the IEC standard, but we have real headphone circuits now. Also why Beyer recommends 600 ohm headphones for serious work: it is least affected by lazy impedance decisions.
>>51795259
I'll be honest, I mostly play vidya while wearing headphones but I listen to a lot of music as well. How good are those two headphones for a prolonged use of time?
I've read the review and the Philips seems to e more comfortable.
>>51795397
Don't forget that low impedance headphones are a much harder current load.
>>51794731
Would you need an amp for this?
>>51794502
v6 is the master of punchy bass but the soundstage is extremely narrow. great soundstage is usually associated with open headphones which have a hard time with punchy bass. you can't afford the X2 so 681 evo maybe? but the bass on that is much more boomy than punchy, like an explosion going off.
>>51794635
>>51794611
don't the 558 have better pads than the 518? in the US the price of the 558 and shp9500 are very close and the 558 is a much easier mod project than removing/replacing the entire grill on the 518.
What amp should I get for my HD 598?
>>51795320
Head fier, when I dont even post nor visit that place more than once in a blue moon...
>>51795703
e10k or Magni. e10k if you don't plan on buying harder to drive headphones in the future, Magni if you do.
Either one would be fine for the HD598.
>>51794670
Mine failed the same way, I've had to repair them numerous times. Good sound but would not buy again.
>>51795416
Philips are better for comfort, but if you dont have glasses and a extremely big head, you should go for the senns (unless philips ca be found for 60$) since both are comfy headphones.
>>51794722
what is this, a list of extremely overpriced, crappy sounding headphones?
>>51795416
558/598 is one of the best headphones for prolonged use.
>>51795801
>if you dont have glasses and a extremely big head
I have both. Shit.
>>51795635
Yes dats true and thats what Id do, pads ar not super comfy on 518, but you could never describe them as uncomfy
>>51795825
well I think the pads on both are like soft fabric. the 558 and 598 have actual velour, and high-quality velour at that, not the cheap stuff you find on say hi2050
>>51795703
None, only a class above headphones need an amp (unless your onboard sound is broken). Save that 100$, I have a large stereo amp and my onboard sounds 99% the same
>>51795815
Well then its philips no doubt, the senns start to pressure my glasses when I wear them pretty fast. You can eq the piercing highs out and increase bass so they sound kinda like sennheisers, but detail is lost. But I was suorised how well they eqd though, props to philips. Also my fidelio x2 are on their way, yay
>>51795841
Philips are very soft nylon while senns are harsh but cottonlike
>Budget
20,000 yen
>Location
Japan
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Reasonably
>Preferred music
Classical and sometimes rock
>>51795885
Thanks.
One more question, would my old hd668b even stand a competition to the Shp9500 in terms of sound? I have little experience with headphones.
>>51795906
http://kakaku.com/item/K0000162897/
何もその価格帯でより良好ません。
>>51795937
always hilarious to remember this site is full of weeaboos waiting for every little opportunity to show off their tiny amount of japanese knowledge
>>51795913
I think I heard them once, dunno which letter they were, but maybe if you did a price to performance, they definitively would. Headphones more than 60$ are for hobbyists and people with more money than sense imo. But if you want to upgrade, and cant find the philips for cheap, get takstar 2050, they are the hyper x cloud headphones clone. Sound like the old ath M50s which are universally praised. Velour, fits any head, super comfy and made of metal. 50$ on amazon
Looking to get a headset for gayming. Considered the Razer 7.1, but I've heard bad things about Razer.
Any recommendations?
>>51795937
I would prefer to buy Japanese.
I don't speak moon runes I'm on holiday here
>>51795999
try find a used srs-2170 system for that price on yja
guise, i have an old ass pair of Sennheiser HD540 references, that i need an amp for and it wouldn't hurt to find new cables for since the jack is a 1/4 and the adapter makes it sound kinda scratchy when i tried it on a real stereo with both the 1/4 and the 3.5mm adapter. I also need new earpads. i got the cans for free some years back from a buddy that was fleecing the thrift shop he worked at (god that place was a goldmine for shit to sell on ebay) and have barely used them, but when i got to use them with that stereo that had some serious juice they sounded really good.
i live in the GLORIOUS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
I'm going to be using them with my laptop, not my mp3 player, since the fucking wires are longer than hell.
>>51796037
It's shit. Sell it to me.
>>51795996
Well they are probably total shite. Just ger shp9500 or sennheiser 558 and be done with it. Your headphones dont fit 7 tiny speakers now do they? Why would a headphone costing 50k only use 2 speakers?
>>51796037
also i have a pair of JVC HAS400B's that i have had since the beginning of 2013, that just broke on the right swivel, that i glued back together, that i desperately love for being so damn lightweight and cheap. are there better headphones in the same price-range, or should i get another pair?
>>51796090
kek member of my lineage. Ive been having people tell me that since 09.
>>51796116
How bad bass is in the shp9500? Is it really non-existent?
>>51796116
>Why would a headphone costing 50k
But they're $40 on Razer's store?
After listening to over 100 headphones from LCD-3 to HD800 to SR-009, I'm fully convinced that the HD650 is the best headphone in the world. It's the only headphone I've heard that doesn't sound harsh at very loud volumes while remaining relatively neutral. Its sibling, the HD600 has a tendency to be harsh at 3-5kHz but it is more neutral and might be preferable at lower volumes.
I'll leave now, just wanted to share my thoughts.
>>51796244
ok thanks
>>51796224
Pretty much, compared to any decent headphone, but you can just equalizer it and it will actually sound good compared to the sennheisers
>>51796237
I was talking about orpheus, they cost 50k and have 2 speakers/drivers
>>51796237
And just get takstar 2050, they will sound 10 times better search for z review takstar on youtube
>>51796320
The earpads of Philips SHP9500 are not replaceable. How bad is it? I am not a sweaty person but I do wear headphones when my hair is wet. Sorry, I am just throwing questions at you.
>want to buy the Etymotic HF5
>Go to amazon from smartphone, see one is available, decide to buy them when I get home
>Once home they're out of stock
>Don't want to buy them from third party sellers, so I decide to wait
>Two days later they're back on stock again, but since it's night I decide to make the purchase the next morning
>When I wake up they're gone, but the price has dropped of 10% so I order them anyway, I'm in no hurry, they'll get back in stock in a matter of days
>Now it's two weeks that I'm waiting for amazon to restock those fucking IEMs
What's a good alternative to the HF5? I want isolation. Shitloads of isolation. And very good sound too. For no more than 120€.
>>51796390
I can only think of Shure SE215 but it has terrible sound in my opinion.
>>51795913
the 668b to me sounds very detailed in the highs, not so much in the mids but the lows are rich even if the bass doesn't have much impact. many headphones like the 9500 and 598 sound bass light so if you want an open headphone with more pronounced bass the 668b is better in that regard. for the longest time I liked it more than the 598 and I still like it better for most of the music I listen to. but the 598 is a more balanced sound even if it's a bit too mid-focused for most of my music. in comfort it beats pretty much anything including the 668b. but the 668b is less than half the price and cheaper than the 9500, at least when I bought it.
>>51795788
How long did it take for your pair to break?
Had my 550's for 6 months and besides some strange scratching in the metal part of the headband they seem to work fine.
>>51796390
The wait is worth it.
>>51796363
Just buy new headphones when theyre done in 5-10yrs, but i know you can diy replace them so you should be fine
>>51796334
Still not seeing how that's relevant to me.
>>51796351
Just watched the review of them. They seem good, but I'm not sure about not having a microphone. Plus, I don't have any of the audiophile equipment that he does, so I'm not sure that they would be better than Razer's, which are USB-powered and solve that problem for me.
>>51796244
>needs a mud simulator to not get harshness
the vast majority of headphones are going to sound harsh to the hd650 veil machine.
>>51796667
What mud?
HD650 is quite neutral.
All I do is drugs, and they're always free.
Something is muffling one of my earphones, and I'm pretty sure that the cause is earwax deep in the stem.
Is it going to fuck my headphones up if I submerge them (Not plugged in to anything.) stem-down in some peroxide to dissolve the earwax?
>>51796856
yes, disassembling is preferable
>>51796431
I ruled them out when choosing what to buy. Also, amazon doesn't have them in stock.
>>51796638
Goddamit /hpg/!
>>51796871
As far as I can tell I can't disassemble them.(OnePlus Silver Bullets)
I'll give them a short submerge and hope it fixes it.
How is the bass on the hd650?
>>51796938
its what people buy when they want an hd600 with more bass
>that feel when K7xx master race
>Budget
Under $200, but that doesn't mean that I want to spend the entire $200.
>Location
USA.
>Source
ODAC -> Objective2 Headphone Amplifier.
>Preferred type of headphone
In-ear Monitor.
>Comfort level
Must be comfortable and have zero microphonics. The point about microphonics is extremely important.
>Preferred tonal balance
I prefer a neutral response but I'm willing to sacrifice sound quality a bit to meet my ergonomic needs.
>Preferred music
Everything.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD598, Beyerdynamic DT880 600 ohm, Etymotic Research HF5, AKG K702.
>Budget
$200-350
>Location
U.S
>Source
Phone, Desktop with dedicated soundcard
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size.
>Open or closed
Either. I am very interested in what open headphones sound like.
>Comfort level
Very high, I will use these for use at my computer for 4-6 hours every weekend.
>Preferred tonal balance
V shaped, maybe warm, but I haven't really heard a decent pair of warm sounding cans.
>Preferred music
Hip-Hop, House, Rock, EDM.
>Past headphones
ATH-M50x, Sony MDR XB950BT/B.
I thoroughly enjoy the clear sound of the ATH-M50x, as well as the tight bass.
Any suggestions? I was looking at the sennheiser HD518's gappy to spend a bit more though
>>51797148
K702 or K7XX if you would like to wait on massdrop.
>>51797175
What is the difference between those two pairs?
Just got some m50xs. Are they a meme on /g/ or are they actually good?
Also, what are some better options then the default leather if any?
>>51797184
K7XX is cheaper and more comfortable, other than that they sound mostly the same other than i think the K7XX might have a little bit more bass than the 702 but other than that they more less sound the same.
>>51797204
>Are they a meme on /g/
/hpg/ hates it.
>>51797073
Got sick of the HF5 cable? Pretty much anything would do with enough equalization.
>Budget
$200 ;_;
>Location
United States
>Source
Desktop with an old Pioneer amp (does that even count), otherwise phone or straight from soundcard
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Something I can use for 8 consecutive hours without feeling like my ears are going to start bleeding
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat
>Preferred music
A wide variety
>Past headphones
Monoprice 8323 (lol), ATH-M50
These M50s are physically painful after a few hours, it's absurd.
>>51797893
>Something I can use for 8 consecutive hours without feeling like my ears are going to start bleeding
DT880
>>51797764
>Got sick of the HF5 cable? Pretty much anything would do with enough equalization.
I own about 10 other cheap IEMs like Quad Beat 3, HJE120, SHE-3590, Piston, etc.
They all bother me when the cable makes contact with my shirt. I'm thinking around the ear fitted IEMs might be the solution for me.
Looking at Vsonic GR07 Classic right now.
>>51797914
wants closed
>>51797893
>>51797943
my bad, dt250
I'm looking to get better sound quality with an external amp, but I don't even know enough to ask questions about this kind of stuff. Anyone willing to recommend something to an ultra-beginner?
>>51797957
>better sound quality
it'll get louder at best, better sound quality ain't gonna happen unless you get new headphones.
Did I get memed when I bought some K550's?
Apparently some hi-fi forums claim there's multiple variant floating around because quality control was poor since they were made in China and some sound poor compared to others.
Some other people claim you need a 200$ amp otherwise they're shit.
>>51797991
the only AKG that aren't made in china are the k812 so that's a pretty bad argument
>>51797941
It doesn't have much of any isolation, is that fine? I figure it is worth considering Fiio EX1 as well.
>>51797991
>multiple variant floating around because quality control was poor
Maybe?
>Some other people claim you need a 200$ amp otherwise they're shit.
Nah. The design is really bad with consistent bass though, if I could show you how much the bass can vary between people.
>>51797764
>>Are they a meme on /g/
>/hpg/ hates it.
Why though? Are there any specific things that are bad about the m50x/m50?
>>51797976
...Then why do people buy them? Am I using the wrong term?
My understanding was that they're essentially just external sound cards.
>>51798053
stupidity mostly. audio is the biggest snake oil market on the planet. it's easy to tell someone something is going to sound better with absolutely no evidence to back them up.
>>51798053
Literal autism
Some headphones need to juice them up properly, however, most consumer grade headphones are designed to work with an average MP3 player like a cellphone.
Or so I was told
>>51798045
Not him, but from what I understand the M50 is just an M40 that is more bassy, so people who prefer neutral sound don't like it.
>>51794319
Any recommendations?
>>51798045
The most cited concern is value. People are aware of more models, m50x is more expensive than m50, and so on, general comfort.
>>51798100
Grab a XPT100 or DT770 and EQ it to death. They have their coloration, you can fix that.
>>51798065
>>51798071
Alright, thanks. Currently my system doesn't have a dedicated sound card so I thought an amp would improve something, but if it doesn't do anything I guess I don't need to waste the money.
>>51797976
amp does just what it says, amplifies the volume. that's it. the reason some headphones need them is their impedance/sensitivity. some are harder to drive, so they need an amp. it's that simple.
>>51798025
Don't care about isolation, it's more for desk use.
Why did you recommend the EX1 specifically?
I'm inclined to believe that any IEM that is worn normally and occludes your ears will have microphonics.
I did demo some Shure models several years ago (SE215, SE315, SE425 and SE535). And I've found that microphonics was mostly absent which is supposedly due to the around the ear fit. My problem with them was that I hated the memory wire.
Got the Sennheiser 958's from a Black Friday deal
Anybody got the cheap mic guide to go along with these headphones?
>>51798133
thanks for agreeing
>>51798053
Some people have shitty on board sound or need more power for their headphones
or speakers so they sound the way they should.
That does not, however, justify the $150+ price tags some of them bring.
>>51798146
linked to the wrong post
>>51798138
It's another IEM with a nice balance, somewhat more DF than GR07 but still not quite neutral. Shallow fit, low isolation, can be worn over ear or cable down.
>I'm inclined to believe that any IEM that is worn normally and occludes your ears will have microphonics
Occlusion effect is not same as cable noise. It can amplify it, but it is distinct. The effects can be observed in headphones as well.
Over the ear is just a way to damp vibration, shirt clips help a little too
Whups. Super plebed... anyway.
I keep buying cheap headphones/earbuds, and they sound fine for me because I'm a plebe. Problem is, they crap out fast, and I can't tell if that's b/c they're cheap, or because I abuse them so much. I use them to listen to my phone or ipod at work, where I can be moving around a lot and sometimes catching them on things. I stick the phone/ipod in my pocket and tend to loop the wire around the back of my neck so there's not as much loose line to get caught. When not in use I tend to wrap them around my ipod, or loop them up and stick them in my pocket.
>Budget
Well.. in the past I've never gone over $20. I could be convinced to go up to $40 or so if they were guaranteed to survive.
>Location
US
>Source
fifth gen ipod nano
>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds. Quick and easy to store and retrieve, able to keep one ear open for safety/conversation, quickly tug one/both out for full attention, hang detached over my neck like an idiot lanyard.
>Open or closed
Closed..?
>Comfort level
I've been using skullcandy. (I SAID plebe..) I mean, I dont want to feel like I have rough stones in my ears.
>Past headphones
Skullcandy, terrible murderous original iphod earbuds, some awesome JVC earbuds that survived everything (including being run over by a car in the rain) until they didnt. (maybe i answered my own question, there..?)
Thanks!
>>51797954
I'll definitely look into it man, thanks.
Is the 80 Ohm one any worse off than the 250 Ohm one? Is it just marketing, or is there actually a significant difference in sound quality?
>>51798244
Okay, thank you for the recommendation.
HF5 came with a shirt clip, it mitigates the problem but it's still noticeable. I use it with my other cheapo IEMs too.
>>51798315
The Sennheiser HD 202 usually go for 20$ on Amazon and they sound excellent for that price. I don't have any experience with Skullcandy shit, but the HD 202 are kinda bassy but not too much. I can vouch for those as I still have mine after a year of rough use and work fine. Replaced them for something better, but served me fine for that year.
>>51798333
its not significant but the 80 will be easier to power on more sources while the 250 has less chance of having its sound fucked by high output impedance on a source
>>51798333
80ohm DT250 is the better one, 250ohm seems to have inconsistent driver matching.
Also see this anon's post for alternatives:
>>51798129
DT250's fit is like a M50 with velour pads and I find the DT770 to have worse comfort than the M50. I'd get the XPT100.
>>51798356
>I find the DT770 to have worse comfort than the M50
l0l disregard this retards shitty uninformed opinion
>>51798366
DT770 clamps more and the headband is not as padded as the M50.
>>51798379
the headband is much more padded and the velour pads on the dt770 are much softer than the 'pads' on the m50 (dare i call them that, they're just solid rocks of pleather)
What's the most comfortable pair of cans on the market for long sessions?
>>51798400
hd800 or dt880 premium. if you don't mind shit sound quality then the sony ma900
>>51798387
No you're wrong, I've owned both, the Pro Beyers have terrible headbands with minimal padding, they always hurt the top of my skull. Their clamping force is high too.
>>51798434
>I've owned both
pics
>>51798400
HD600, HD650, HD598, HD558.
For long sessions, avoid bright shitty headphones like what >>51798424 recommended.
>>51798455
>blatantly shilling instasnap chinkphones
fuck off idiot.
>>51798443
Owned is past tense.
Is that google spreadsheet of recommended earbuds and headphones still around/relevant?
>>51798347
Huh! Those don't look bad... so no recommendations on ear buds? One of the pros is being able to pull them out quickly. I've got it so that I don't even think about it now- supervisor wants to talk, buds out.
>>51798476
surely you'd have taken a photo at some point. surely you aren't just saying you've owned them to try make your opinion valid because you think you don't need to provide any evidence.
>>51798473
There has never been a single reported HD600/HD650 cracking on /g/. Same for the post revision HD558/HD598.
Meanwhile several Beyer owners complained about their broken gimbals.
If anything Beyer is the one who should have snap in their name. Snapperdynamic.
>>51798496
>snapheiser damage control
pathetic
>>51796938
Muddy and focused in the upper bass and lower mids. It's also the most veiled sennheiser which is why people prefer the 600. If you want more bass get the ma900 or x2 or a planar.
>>51798617
>ever recommending the x2
Stop.
Going to be buying my first real set of more expensive headphones tomorrow, going for the ATH-M50x
Anything I should know beforehand to avoid any buyers remorse or anything in the same price range you would suggest more?
So I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on these tonight, but now I'm a bit worried. From the promo images it seems there's two models. One with the "plastic" pads and another with the softer pads. I checked the customer images and there are some with both as well.
Am I just fucked and have to roll the dice?
>>51798690
Don't pay more than $125.00
>>51798690
You about to get memed son
>>51798721
In Estonia they're about 155-180 eur
I'm stuck between the K550s and the DT250s.
They both seem to have similar sound quality and comfort levels, though I've heard a bit more praise for the 550s.
Does /hpg/ have any opinion on either model?
>>51797073
im02
>>51797148
x2
>>51797893
xpt-100
>>51797991
the k55x has poor sealing with many people and yes the k553 has a slightly more even response than the k550.
>>51798315
get a bunch of hje-120k and quit wrapping cords
>>51798690
m40x, v6
>>51798782
What exactly is poor sealing? How can I test if they seal properly or not?
This is my first pair of headphones that cost over 30$ senpai
>>51798489
>taking pictures of your headphones
yeah, im pretty fucking sure there are people that dont do that out there... i might just be one of them myself
>>51798690
You're about to hate yourself for making that purchase. AKG K553 Pro.
>>51798706
Those are clones of those clamp monsters that are even more uncomfortable than the M50X.
aka Superlux 668b
>>51798657
well they are definitely comfy as fuck
>>51798782
>XPT-100: $90
I've got nothing against going 100+ below budget, but generally a price that low is indicative of a pretty reasonable drop in quality.
Is that the case here, or are these just a really good deal?
>>51798823
they sound like utter shit though
>>51798828
>but generally a price that low is indicative of a pretty reasonable drop in quality.
That's where you're mistaken.
>>51798810
Huh? I thought the SR850s were supposed to be extremely comfortable.
>>51798810
>more uncomfortable than M50
M50 owner here stopping by to tell you that's not possible.
>>51798834
aside from a treble peak at 5k that i simply had to turn down, i think theyre very good. i can see why theyre successful
tack on the comfy, great build quality aside from the ink thing, removable cable... hard to go wrong unless you know you wanted a neutral phone. but thats not really a negative, just means theyre not your preference
>>51798706
velour is standard on sr850 now I think.
>>51798828
next step up would be msr7, but they're not as comfortable and a tad outside your budget.
>>51798804
it means the pads can leave a gap somewhere around your ears. for example I tend to get sealing issues along the jaw line. on a closed headphone a poor seal can ruin the sound completely. I would read up some more, because I have heard there are some pads that fix it.
>>51798900
boomy midbass with no subbass extension to give it depth along with peakiness
you may as well have bought beyers if you were just going to EQ down the treble
tipper's mixing/mastering is amazing but the music itself sounds like dog shit
>>51798804
>What exactly is poor sealing?
The pads not sealing to your head? A loss of isolation and a loss of bass is the effect.
This is a normal issue for any headphone, but the K550 is really susceptible to leak effects.
The results can be inconsistent with the same person.
Look at the measurement of the bass response on people with the K550 here, between different people a difference of almost 20dB can be observed. On the same person almost 10 dB
>>51798895
Did you stretch out the cans and open them a few notches?
I've owned the M50 for about three years, and it's incredible how much I suffered needlessly for two of those years just because I didn't do that shit. I wouldn't say they're as comfortable as my other cans still, but it's a lo better now.
>>51798917
i have a feeling the treble is related to just mine, maybe a bad driver, cause it's quite bad, and the fr charts that ive seen dont show it.
very few dynamics have actual good subbass. if subbass is what you want, you pretty much have to get some orthos
>>51798938
Opening them a few notched just makes the hard plastic rest squarely on the fold of my ear rather than the pad, which is arguably worse.
As for stretching, I haven't tried that, but only because I feel like that's going to snap them in half.
>>51798917
oh looks it's the resident x2 shitposter regurgitating memes again because he can't stand that people like something he doesn't so much.
>>51798954
>very few dynamics have actual good subbass
i'm sure you meant open ones but DT990 extend fairly well and -some- HD800 models.
>>51798905
I see. Thanks.
>>51798995
it won't stretching + bigger pads really improves the comfort. worked for my m40x anyways.
>>51798996
i mean, im the guy talking with him, and hes not exactly wrong. its just that hes nitpicking. a lot of people like a boomy bass, and almost no one would miss or even hear a well done subbass on a headphone. he speaks about this stuff like its objectively bad when its just subjective, and even then, theyre very small things.
>>51799026
i said very few. they exist but theres very few. either way, even the best ones dont beat the better planars at the same price. you might as well get planars if subbass is what you want
>>51798995
Definitely stretch them, only takes a few seconds for much lighter clamp, and it's the main reason I still bother to use them occasionally.
If you're paranoid, just do a little at a time and test every time until it fits your clamp standards.
>Budget
Preferably under 100, might do up to 150
>Location
Murica
>Source
iPhone/Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over/Around-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Emphasis on bass
>Preferred music
Everything
>Past headphones
Monoprice 8323s cause poorfag, some gay thermaltake headset from micro center for 20$
>Budget
200eur
>Location
Estonia
>Source
Desktop mainly, occasionally Smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
Supra-aural or Circumaural
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Does not matter much
>Preferred music
Very little vocals, instrumental, techno, orchestral, electro, chiptunes, glitch hop.
>>51799054
>i said very few. they exist but theres very few. either way, even the best ones dont beat the better planars at the same price. you might as well get planars if subbass is what you want
you could say this about anyone who wants bass. why would you want a headphone that has boomy midbass and no subbass? it sounds like shit.
Well /g/entlemen, I got my HD800's.
I upgraded from AD700's. You can imagine my delight. Just wanted to say that it sounds so goddamn good. I hope all you guys can reach bliss as well.
>>51799095
i dont know, why do people want a v shaped headphone in the first place? what is the point of this subjective question? what mystery are you going to solve when i give you an answer that satisfies you?
>>51799113
>why do people want a v shaped headphone in the first place
because they want elevated bass and treble response? why wouldn't you want the bass extended?
bought the raker kraken 7.1 how badly did i fuck up /g/
>>51799125
elevated bass means a humped bass. the phenomenon that people enjoy is when the bass seems to change volume as it courses. to further prove this, so many people dont like the way the bass on the 400i sounds. it's so flat that they say it sounds boring
>>51799127
awfully.
>>51799134
>>51799155
should i return it i need something with a decent mic xD
>>51795123
Seriously, I've been really happy with them too
>>51799086
Creative Aurvana Live
M40x
Meme50x if you can find them under $100
>>51799088
If you're >>51798750 >>51798690, then M50s wouldn't actually be bad for your music, although 155-180 euro is grossly overpriced. Maybe DT1350 for a supraaural since comfort isn't a top priority.
>>51799187
>>51799095
because although it is a bit boomy it also has impact and doesn't sound like it's coming from down a hallway like pretty much every other open headphone. the bass isn't any less extended than most open headphones and you can actually tell it's there. the treble is not nearly as fatiguing as that on a beyer, or a v6, or a 681, or many other headphones, and some people like the slight elevation. it's not meant to be neutral, and the reason people like it so much is because it has just the right amount of coloration (to many people's preferences) while retaining that open sound.
>>51799248
A buddy of mine has the m40x and says they have no bass, do you think DT 770 pros have more bass?
>>51799112
>not hd800s
>>51799350
the 770 has more bass yes but the m40x does not have "no bass", it's actually above neutral by a bit, and responds well with eq if you want to boost it.
>>51799350
Yeah, definitely more bass but DT770s are slightly outside of your budget.
They do seem to match your comfort/bass preferences very well though, so you should consider them.
>>51799369
>HD800 Sucker edition
:^)
>>51799389
I've seen them drop down to 120ish sometimes on amazon, might go for them. How durable are they?
>>51799422
>DT880 - $1600 extra sibilance edition
>>51799459
Build quality is good, although the cable isn't detachable. Try to get the 80 ohm version.
>>51799422
they brought down the 6k peak and upped the bass a bit, isn't that what everyone wanted. I will never understand why they measure in the blocky style though.
>>51799422
>>51799746
those changes are so negligible though. the charts that they provide hd800 owners with alone have huge variance.
>>51799746
>never understand why they measure in the blocky style though
Because fuck useful information or detail. It doesn't say anything useful.
>>51799782
I think that was a tongue in cheek remark to the brand shitting in these threads.
>>51794722
I own the k601, no bass and treble rape
>>51794244
Kek
What's the benchmark like?
>>51794075
Are these any good for $350 NZD?
It also comes with free pair of sony ZX770bn's
Should I be baited into buying these??
Tell me why/why not /g/
>Budget
Cheap. I know it's a small amount, but preferably something under $50
>Location
USA, Oregon.
>Source
Phone, tablet, laptop.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size. Over the ear.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Would prefer very comfortable. Most of the time I'm laying down when I'm listening to music and sometimes I fall asleep with them still on. I would probably sacrifice comfort for audio quality, though.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral. Maybe a little warm.
>Preferred music
I listen to everything, so I can't really specify. I really like Emo and Noise, though, but I do listen to every genre of music.
>Past headphones
Altec Lansing SRS (pic related). They recently broke. I love the sound quality they have, but they were kind of a hassle to take around.
First post on /g/, thanks in advance.
>>51800196
Takstar Pro 80 off from ebay?
>Budget
~$150
>Location
usa
>Source
laptop/pc/phone/tablet
>Preferred type of headphone
good ones
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
important
>Preferred tonal balance
warm-ish
>Preferred music
all but country
>Past headphones
nothing of note
>Budget
$100-$250
>Location
USA
>Source
desktop
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
max comfy
>Past headphones
ATH-AD700
I'm looking for something similar to the AD700s, but with more bass.
I really like these headphones, but they're starting to die and I'd like to move up in quality.
Any recommendations?
I have an HD 558 coming in the mail. Will I become an audiophile?
>>51800720
No.
How's the DT990's comfort?
Moving on from sennheiser but I'm spoiled by comfy
>>51800720
I started with hd598s, now i own 12 pairs of headphones and 6 different amp/dacs, I have a large income though so its no big deal, just another hobby to waste time and money on, its fun to try new cans out though but honestly when u get to an hd558 with the foam mod or even a lil better the hd598 you are at about 85% of the peak in headphone performace, atleast thats what I have found it to be....I'm not really a true "audiophile" though, im just a rich dude that likes electronics, u will love your 558s though if youve never had a nice pair of headphones before
>>51800804
They're pretty damn comfy, u wont notice too much off a difference unless u have a huge head
>>51800720
also if youre not using a dac/amp, which u dont really need for 558s, id download a cracked version of DFX audio enhacer, people on here will bash it but i really dig it, id ateast try it if i was u, its fuckin free anyway
Hey /g/uys, are the Sony MDR1-RNC MK2 a good set of noise cancelling headphones?
ATH M40x or AKG k240?
>>51801008
It's a bit overpriced, you could find more better headphones for a lot cheaper
>>51801038
I could buy them for 237 USD, with a free pair of Sony MDR ZX770bn's
Been looking at the k240 and hd518. Can someone recommend some more headphones in the same price range?
I bought akg k702s a long time ago and tried for a month and hated them let a friend borrow them for 2.5-3 months. Then i went back to my normal dt770s then tried ath-a700x then went back and i like them now. WTF?
>>51794130
>rattle
>says V-shaped
>the mids are just recessed
what the fuck
>>51801097
Try the Fidelio X2 and you won't switch to anything else.
>>51801383
faggot
>>51800812
What's your favorite pair?
>>51801399
You sure got him good, friend! xd
Got memed into buying the HD598SE.
>no bass
>very clear sounds
>some sounds are too sharp, painful
>10/10 comfort
still feeling buyers remorse
>>51801497
Don't tell me you paid over $200 as well.
do you really honestly feel a huge difference in quality using a $1500 headphone in comparison to a $150 one
I'm talking similar sound signature, both are open-back, and both are assumed to be the best in their price range
every time I read a review it's always like "wew I'm so blown away" but then when I buy a new $200 headphone and don't know what I'm supposed to exactly be impressed with aside from the fact I'm not using walmart headphones
>>51801662
from an anon whose budget is only less than a hundred dollars, I'm always under the impression that headphones over a thousand dollars is the headphone equivalent of getting your dick sucked and flying through space
I'm pretty sure at this point literally anyone who has invested in thousand dollar headphones are only saying how blown away they are to hide their massive butthurt from buyer's remorse. The only way to ease the pain is to coerce other shitheads to buy the same thing so they can convince themselves that the purchase was worth it cause other people agree.
>>51801699
>>51801662
they are better, but of course they suffer from diminishing returns. id say the most you would want to spend on headphones is about 500 bucks. it's quite a rollercoaster ride of quality all the way til that, in my experience. after that... the difference is there, but no, it doesnt blow you away.
>>51794426
how is something that is made hidden only for aesthetics? are you retarded?
>>51801662
>every time I read a review it's always like "wew I'm so blown away"
maybe it's because the only reviews you ever really read are from people who are just trying to sell you the headphone instead of actually reviewing it.
Go up in price for headphone reviews and notice how most of the reviews almost never has a section for cons or any serious critiquing to the headphone in question. It's almost always just an article sucking the headphone's dick on how awesome it is and you should totally blow your cash on it.
>>51801699
Fuck that, I don't do buyers remorse.
If something is shit, I return it.
That's how I go into all of my purchases. From doing that I can tell you that for the
average listener, you won't notice enough after the $400 mark to make it worth.
Around what point do IEMs hit diminishing returns?
>>51801790
Around $10
>>51797010
>rattle
Thoughts on the RS120 II?
Sennshills BLOWN OUT (just like their bass response and muddy trebles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_RJ3M_v8is
Why are you not fidelio x2 master race?
>mfw listening to dt990
>>51802376
>mfw listening to Sennheisers
>>51802405
>mfw listening to ATH M50
>Budget
Up to $130
>Location
Australia
>Source
Android phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
reasonably high, wearing for 3-5 hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
don't care
>Preferred music
alternative rock
>>51802376
>>51802405
>>51802440
>mfw that was a video of a man getting a blowjob while wearing headphones
>>51801416
I know, thanks :^)
My second Mementum cable broke. Time to join the Beyerdynamic master race.
>>51802526
are you joking or did you actually miss the point of that video
>>51802714
wait what?
MDRv6 are the only headphones you will ever need
>>51802740
My second cable broke and I'm selling the headphone to a friend for 50$ and I'm getting DT770 to replace it.
>>51802714
>cable breaks
>is going to buy something with a non removable cable
lel
Can anyone recommend a gaymen headset? Under $100.
