Why does intel keep producing chips with their awful integrated graphics onboard?
Why can't they remove that and give us 4 more cores to BTFO amd for good.
Most people don't need anything more than integrated graphics. If they need more, they know where to get more.
>>51752811
They do make CPUs without graphics. They're called Xeon. They're often a good deal if you weren't going to overclock anyway. The one I got performs and costs the same as a high-end i5 while having hyper-threading capability like an i7.
Integrated graphics are used by the majority of their users. IE OEMs.
The GPU on the chip has a much lower failure rate after making the chips, but adding 4 more x86 cores would make the chips more expensive to make, since the CPU diespace has a fairly high failure rate.
>>51752811
if they removed it, I would need a dedicated gpu on my laptop, intel onboard graphics are good enough for a normal laptop. for gaming pc's it would be better if the calculation power could be used next to a normal GPU
>>51752811
Protip:intel is winning because of that. Like amd they've been offloading computation for years but never shill ed it as a feature like amd does.
>>51752916
>>51752893
Why can't they have two product lines like AMD?
>>51752888
Xeon blows though
>>51752811
Only children and engineers need dedicated GPUs
>>51752932
>Xeon blows though
How so? I've been satisfied with mine.
>>51752961
Anyone with more than one monitor needs a dedicated GPU. That's everyone but the lowest of the low office peons who only get thin clients.
>>51753006
Multiple monitors are a symptom of bad window management
>>51753013
okay, archneet
>>51752988
Expensive motherboards lacking features simply because it's a server board
Expensive memory
Xeon barely out performs normal intel chips
>>51753013
Look at this poorfag and laugh
>>51753064
My Xeon is in a regular desktop board with the same socket as i5s/i7s. A Xeon does not require ECC RAM. ECC RAM requires a Xeon. I'm using regular cheap memory.
>>51753013
>Multiple monitors are a symptom of bad window management
kek
>>51753080
>>51753116
A couple hundred for a second monitor in portrait is nothing when you're getting paid instead of archneeting. It's nice being able to have the entirety of most scripts/modules on a screen.
>>51753097
So your using motherboards that don't officially support your xeon and prayed it worked?
>wat is iris
>>51753013
bro ur only running three programs on that there 17" monitor thats not "good window management" just cus u have a tiling WM
I use a tiling WM and i still have no fucking clue how you can live without a second monitor like holy fuck just go get one for free on craiglist god fucking damnit wtf is wrong with you
>>51753013
Literally the truth
You can't physically look at more than one screen at the same time, you retards
>>51753180
I checked with other users.
>>51753262
You have two eyes, it's possible
>>51753262
it called not having a monitor 2 inches away from your eyes retarded
>>51753262
u cant physically look at a space bigger than like fucking 3"x3" but you have goddamn peripherals you fuck and who said you were staring at one screen the whole time you're using your computer lol the legitimate only argument against a second monitor is "I have work spaces" but damn i even cut those in half because i have two monitors and only need 5 on each screen wow
>>51753277
You can't focus on both monitors at the same time.
Multiple monitors are for people without proper window management and/or attention deficit disorder.
Just get a proper WM and use 9 or more workspaces.
>>51753321
I just use GNU Screen in my mintty windows. On my two monitors :-)
>>51753013
pretty much, i moved my other monitors because they were just glowing in my face for no real reason
>>51753097
>>51752988
Xeon has higher cache latencies, so it is in fact a bit worse.
>>51752932
>>51752811
In laptops I'm thankful that they include a low-power graphics chip, so I can actually use my display without halving my battery time.
>>51753321
You can't focus on your whole monitor at once, so why not sell it and get a smaller, lower resolution monitor for free? Why use a text editor other than ed? Having a second monitor is the same as having one big monitor.
>>51753013
I need my second monitor to watch anime while I draw hentai on the first one
>>51753006
Not true. I have hdmi and dvi outputs(i think there's a vga too) on an i5.
>>51753321
Side monitors are useful for programming. You can put reference material on the side.
Monitors: 3 > 1(+1) > 1 > "2"
>>51753637
You can put the reference manual on another virtual workspace
>>51753649
I do both.
>>51752811
>what are xeon chips
anon pls
>>51753452
Why is it upside-down
>>51753774
Le Australia xDDD
>>51753097
Skylake and future xeon now require server boards. Hoped you enjoyed the fun while it lasted.
>>51753013
Or a symptom of someone who actually does some multitasking and comparative analysis, or reference other documents while working?
>>51754499
Your can't focus on two screens at the same time.
>>51753013
no anon - you just have autism
>>51752888
Feels good!
>>51754516
You are dumb
Is Xeon worth it or not? I have an i5 on the way and I'm wondering if I should swap for a Xeon. I have a graphics card anyways
>>51754574
Great argument!
>>51754588
Skylake xeon require shitty server boards now
>>51754610
So I can't use the same board I bought to use my Skymeme i5?
>>51754676
No and why the fuck would you go from a skylake i5 to a xeon?
>>51754588
Xeon is not more powerful than i5/i7. It's just a good deal sometimes when specific features are wanted.
>>51754722
I mean, compared to anything you'd be buying for your desktop. The $1000+ Xeons are more powerful.
>>51753180
Is this nigga serious?
You've been able to use xeons from different fucking sockets perfectly fine in the past, what makes you think a haswell xeon won't work in a H81-Z97 board?
>>51754400
>>51754610
Ahh, the jew cunts strike again.
God i hope zen is good. We need to stop supporting these cunts
