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Now that they have lights, are they any different to just reading on a laptop screen? How is the light different?

It will just result in the same eye strain.
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>>51741378
Are you functionally retarded?
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>are they any different to just reading on a laptop screen?
yes
>How is the light different?
by not being the same technology
>It will just result in the same eye strain.
if this were the case, and it's not, then this information would have been known by now, as these products have been out for more than 5 years
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>>51741433
But HOW?
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>>51742167
Have you ever read a book? It's like that. Exactly like that.
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>>51742191
But books don't have backlights.
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>>51742273
And you don't have a brain, it seems.
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>>51742273
but they do have lights lighting them up

this is not the source of eye strain
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>>51742290
Top kek
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>>51742304
>this is not the source of eye strain

I'm pretty sure the light shining directly in your eyes is the source of eye strain.

When I read normal books I use a lamp not some bright white light shining right into my eyes.
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>>51742341
>I'm pretty sure the light shining directly in your eyes is the source of eye strain.
Wrong. It is the strength and frequency of the light that causes eye strain.

A strong backlight in a dark room will cause eye strain, a light that has a shitty refresh rate will cause eyestrain.
eReader lights are adjustable and often front lit instead of back lit so they are very comfortable to read with.
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>>51742341
the lamp is built in and it doesnt shine in your eyes
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>>51742406
>front lit

Wait they are front lit? How?
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>>51741433
'technology'

have you ever taken apart one of these ? it is just leds with a diffuser, Not some magical new technology.
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>>51742441
LEDs are known to cause eyestrain.
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>>51742438
They shine across the front instead of being behind the screen.
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They are still fucking useless because screen is too small and I can't read PDFs for scientific tasks without fucking up a table or pinching for zoom like there's no tomorrow (also they are bad for mangas too).
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E-readers reflect light, not emit it. The ones with lights aren't backlit. It's no different than reading a traditional book using a flashlight.

LCD screens have backlighting and it's essentially like staring into a light bulb. Notice how LCD screens are extremely tough to see in sunlight unless you bump the brightness up considerably. E-readers are essentially like real books. The only drawbacks are having to charge the battery every few months and not being able to show off the high brow hipster shit that you're reading when you're in public.
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>>51743162
they make larger ones
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What is a good ebook reader for under $100?
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>>51742273
Neither do e-readers.

They are front lit.
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>>51743162
Sony makes a glorious 13 inch e-reader designed from the ground up to support .pdfs and technical documents. Originally only sold yo Universities.

Costs $800 though...
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I've never had a problem reading books on my Asus Nexus 7, except for dropping it on my nose like a retard a few times. It's quite nice to read on, and you can do other shit pretty well on it too. Like shitpost on /g/ and watch shill youtube videos.
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>>51744407
I have one. It's pretty cool. No back light though.
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>>51744512
No back light no buy!
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>>51741378
e-readers are fucking garbage
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>>51744512
pic related.
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>>51744512
>>51744562

Backlight it nice, but not really needed.

My uni sells that reader 10% off and it is really fucking tempting. It is so light and small though, afraid I'd break it.
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Kobo e-readers or kindle e-readers /g/?
Which is better?
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>>51744618
It's crazy how light it is.
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>>51744665
Pick the one that is easier to buy from your location. It's easy to import to Kindle with Calibre. If you just want to drop in ebooks, get Kobo.

But if you already have books from Amazon then get a kindle.
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>>51744532
explain why
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>>51742341
dude.. you can see the page at all because that lamp's light is reflecting off of the page back into your eyes

do you even science?
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>>51744562
what ereader is that anon? im really tempted in buying one and liked that one
>inb4 if it's the sony one that is like 19" then it's a nogo lol
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>>51745834

It is the 13" Sony one.
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>>51742273
They aren't backlit you doofus. The lights shining from the bottom and/or top (in the seam), down onto the screen. It's the same as if you were shining a light onto it.
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>>51744992
What if you want to also view PDF's as well as other formats, but don't want it to connect to the internet. Ever. I'd be wanting to run the software through linux (which I think calibre has a port for it?)
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>>51747335

Why?

Are you looking at illegal shit?
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No. I am old. I don't like big brother. I realise that linux is damn near as bot-netty as windows nowadays, but I am in no way going to install windows onto another computer just because of how crazy they are with "we will take all your info, but you'll be happy with it. Honest."

I have a lot of old books in pdf on my pc that i've had for ages, and reading them on a pc isn't as convenient anymore.
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>>51747737
What would you classify as illegal?

Unless he's from canuckistan, loli doesn't count
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>>51747335
Word of warning, don't expect PDF viewing to be like on a laptop or tablet. The e-ink rendering time for images (i.e. non-text) is SLOW. Resizing is SLOW. Page turns are SLOW.

Even for plain text, sometimes you'll get an epub that will take like 5-10 seconds for EACH page turn. It's rare and I'm sure it's due to a fucked-up epub and could be fixed, but it was driving me crazy.

This is with a Kobo Glo HD.
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>>51747960

Modern stuff is pretty fast.

Pinch to zoom on the PRS-T2 was smooth and usable.

Newer stuff has only gotten faster.
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>>51747838

Loli is illegal in lots of places.

Shit, porn with small breasted girls is illegal in aussieland.
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>>51747335
>>51747960
I've used Kindles (3rd gen keyboard & 4 gen) and a Sony (PRS-600?) and they're all absolute shit for PDFs. They render the full page scaled to the screen, zooming and panning is slow and clunky.
For PDFs, you're better off getting a more typical tablet. You can import them into iBooks on the iPad and zoom & pan around. And I'm sure Android & WIndows must have have capable ways to view PDFs.
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>>51748575

The PRS-600 is ancient, and the Kindles have shit .pdf support.

It is considerably better on a modern e-reader device, but a Tablet is still better.
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>>51741378
Focusing matters more than contrast. Reading from a high res projection on a screen one mile from the eyes would cause the least eye strain.
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>>51743494
Is Kobo H2O front lit? I have one. I'm not sure what it is.
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>>51749208

They are all front lit.

Don't think anyone has tried backlit e-ink yet.
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>>51748575
Nice try, Apple shill.

On my current Gen Kindle Voyage it really depends on the file. Most PDF's that I put on with calibre are just as a normal epubs.

I've read one PDF File book though that was just the scaled page. Painful and slow.
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>>51750619
>I've read one PDF File book though that was just the scaled page. Painful and slow.

So my point stands, PDFs on eink readers suck. Proper tablets are still better for PDFs in general.
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>>51741378
The light is reflected and high-energy/short-wavelength harsh light doesn't reflect off matte surfaces.
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>>51745381

dude.... you have NO idea how hard I LOLed....
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>>51741378
>>51750768
It's also much smoother text 300 dpi vs < 100, and absolutely no screen flicker. The screen is off between page turns. It's nice.
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>>51750771
omg o.O
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>>51750666
They CAN suck. Buying an ebook reader for the sole purpose of PDF reading wouldn't be a wise decision.
But hey, you can get almost every book as epub from TPB.
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>>51746503
>>51744562
Did you find it on sale, or did you shell out $1000 for one?
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>>51747808
I got a kobo just because I had too many books on my computer and hated reading on a real screen.

The eink screen feels exactly like paper to the eyes. My reader can only 'blind' me in bedroom-dark conditions on full brightness. It's very comfortable.
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>>51741378
I need to read PDF, any good readers out there /g/?
I wish any eink reader would support PDF.
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>>51754616
The current 300ppi Kobos do it pretty well *if you're patient*. Otherwise, any tablet, phone, or laptop will work. If you want a dead tree replacement that can show a whole page at a time, you'll want at least 1200x1920 and probably 10 inches.
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>>51754616
E-ink readers do support PDF dude. It's never been the case that they can't load and display them.
It's just not pleasant due to the low refresh rates.
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