Last thread 404d.
Useful resources: pcpartpicker.com
http://tomshardware.com/
Is it possible to make a nice clean build like in guts threads on a budget build?
>>51701028
Depends on your budget.
>>51701057
$650 MAX
Falcon guide: http://www.logicalincrements.com/#!/
Decide your price range, decide what parts from that tier you want. If you can build Legos, you can put together a PC.
>>51701141
What if you suck with legos?
do prices usually drop after christmas?
>>51701171
I sure your mental of physical disability qualifies you for a state funded support worker who can figure it our.
I can't decide on a build for my new nonexistent computer.
I have never overclocked, but I want the CPU to last a long as possible. Should I buy an unlocked CPU and overclock it in some years? I currently have no time to get into overclocking. Or should I just buy a locked one?
>>51701274
I can build legos but in all seriousness putting a computer together is nowhere as simple especially when an adult has had years of experience with legos which can only be so complicated.
Lego blocks don't have different sockets, or software to configure, or internal parts that can be (dead or working). If the block fits that's it it works. A hardware part can fit and lock in place but be DOA. A motherboard is a bit more complicated than a flat base lego board to start building from.
>>51701417
If you want to overclock, buy an unlocked CPU. Usually there's only a marginal difference in price between the locked and unlocked, besides one or two I've seen. If you buy locked you'll be wasting your money.
Overclocking isn't like a full-time hobby. You can just do it once and be satisfied.
>>51701071
Sure. Just remember by wanting a clean /guts/ build you sacrifice performance for aesthetics if your budget is below $750 or so.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rs3hbv
>>51701171
Even an autist can build a PC, it's lego building for adults.
>>51701233
Not sure.
>>51701417
Buy a locked 4590 as opposed to the unlocked 4690k. By the time you can't run games at medium settings 60 FPS there will be newer CPUs.
>>51701549
>Marginal
The 4690k is 30 more dollars than the 4590, a CPU that is only slightly less powerful. If you don't know what you're doing when OCing you can very easily fuck up.
>>51701497
A part being DOA doesn't have anything to do with your ability to put shit together. Most stuff really does go in the only slot it fits in, and usually if it fits in multiple slots, either will work. When that's not the case, it tends to be explicitly labeled. You need to read a tiny bit to set up your case fans, but that's about it.
If a piece is DOA, return it. Your components should come with instructions for testing whether they work. 99% of the time you can ignore that shit, put it together, and set up you OS. If it doesn't work, figure out the dead part and deal with it.
If this is all really too complicated for you, just save a bit more and pay someone to put it together for you.
What should I buy next?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tVvpCJ
>>51701497
Just read the manuals, watch some videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4
It's really no that bad.
>>51701620
don't buy kingston ssd's. after they got good reviews, they switched to cheaper parts. they suck.
>>51701620
also this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105029
Thinking of buying an R9 380 as my first upgrade, but I'm concerned if it'll fit my case. Yes, no?
>>51701600
>A part being DOA doesn't have anything to do with your ability to put shit together
Oh shit, well I assumed when you meant "put it together" you were also implying it would be "up and running" and even then in a reasonable amount of time. Anybody can put anything together bro, you don't need to tell me that. I think what people just getting into PC building would like to know if the entire process is going to go smoothly and be worth their time. You say just putting it together. Well most people aren't looking to just put it together, they're looking to have it up and running without having to jump through hoops.
>>51701631
This is what I have now so it's too late
>>51701620
A case, for one. Seeing as how you're using an APU I'm assuming you're a mega-poorfag, so get the Source 210. Remove the Kingston SSD too.
>>51701650
It might fit, though just barely.
Is it pretty easy to OC for first time?
Also, I was going to buy 6600k (New PC) but saw this review:
>What irked me a little, was the fact that Intel has throttled the cache size down to 6MB.
>Chip also runs very hot when not in power-saver mode. Will require liquid cooling if you want to OC it.
Wtf? I need CLC to OC it??
Also, newegg is cheap as fuck. I don't know why uk partpicker doesn't link there.
"To protect yourself from malicious ads, you should block ads on 4chan."
I t hought 4chan wanted us to not block ads? I see this shit?
>>51701669
I have an NZXT Phantom 530 case but I didn't think it would be necessary to post
>>51701637
>>51701708
Get a 4690k instead. You'll save money, and it's not like you're getting a 40% performance increase from buying a 6600k.
>>51701669
>It might fit, though just barely.
Are there any smaller alternatives?
>>51701776
Wouldn't know. Also, PCPartPicker will tell you if the GPU is too long. So just make a build with your case and an R9 380.
>>51701740
Same price for me. So why not get it.
>>51701856
LGA1150 MOBOs are cheaper here, and so is RAM.
>>51701586
>$80 seasonic psu in a $600 budget.
everytime.
>>51701620
>>51701637
>>51701722
So what do I upgrade first?
>>51702031
It's semi-modular and not shit. Unless you are a cable management god, you will probably want semi-modular PSUs to show off in /guts/.
>>51701708
That review was written by idiots. i5 cpus always have 6mb of cache, and 6600 is cooler than haswell. Most CLC coolers aren't even worth it over air, and shitty 212 evo will OC it fine.
>>51702126
Thanks a lot man, possible to get 4.4GHz without killing my cpu or starting a fire only using the 212 evo?
New to OC, sorry for questions.
I can't make up my mind about getting an fx or an i5.
An fx appeals to me more, but the internet scared me into thinking they're too weak single-core.
Also, the last time I built a pc, neither o5s nor fxs existed, and I'm horribly out of the loop.
>>51702347
>I'm horribly out of the loop.
TFW the last time I opened up a PC case was 2011.
>>51702200
I think tom's or anandtech ran a test on it, check there
>>51702200
yes a 4.4 is a very easy OC.
>>51702347
Its entirely dependent on your budget and intended use. Get a FX is you want to get the most gpu power you can or your budget is low end.
>>51702447
Do you know at which point its best to get a better cooler be it liquid or air or does it massively depend upon other components too?
Is this Christmas build looking nice /g/?
>>51702836
It should allow 4.6 at least thermally after that its chip quality anyway and exponentially fewer of them hit between 4.7 and 4.9 which is where people start getting kraken x61 and h100s. Most of cooler quality is more about, for everyone who isn't an extreme overclocker, thermal preference instead of thermal limit.
>>51702881
MSI 960 2gb is on sale on Newegg right now, see if it's available in your region
>>51702881
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/cxLzQ7
I'd go with this one.
>R9 390 is cheapest anywhere £220 on newegg in UK.
>Out of stock
Will it restock at a higher price?
Is there any way I can get around this and order from US?
What's a good mobo to go with an i5-4590 and 960 2GB? I know you can skimp on motherboards but all the negative reviews I keep seeing for the cheaper ones are worrisome.
What does /g/ think of my $1500 m-itx gaming build? The goal is power efficiency and quality performance without overclocking.
I got the z instead of the h mobo because I wasn't sure if h170-itx mobos has enough lanes to accommodate m2 and the gpu.
I'll buy it before tax season and hopefully get it written off for work.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/98cJcf
I could easily switch to a different GPU, use a bigger case, 2.5" ssd and save $500-600 but I want the best :)
>>51703286
Instead of getting a lower quality board I would rather get a used z97 on amazon tested and still under warranty to save cash.
Do you guys think the 980ti will drop by march next year?
Is building a fileserver around socket 1155 still alright? I have a g1610t lying around that I could put to good use.
>>51703755
nope
hi /g/
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/x3yJcf
pls halp ;_;7
>>51704287
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nYXxpg much better gpu
prostitute yourself and get another stick of ram at some point anon.
>>51704532
advice witnessed and taken to heart, anon
i will
>>51703755
Doubt it.
I'm upgrading my computer and have a XtremeGear 800w PSU from 2011. I've never had trouble with it, but I'm afraid it will kick the bucket soon or something. How long do PSU's typically last? If that's even a quantifiable thing.
>>51705756
>How long do PSU's typically last?
42
>>51705844
42 carrots
How's this for a budget gayman rig? Already have a case, board, and possibly psu to use, just have to double-check on those. It's been a while since I've bought any pc parts though.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wmV4cf
>Upgrading or building an entirely new machine depending on how much money I have by Christmas' end
>Not sure what I'll have left
>All my parts but my 5870 are complete junk
>Getting a frameskip in all games, very possible its the video card
>Might end up replacing every piece but the card and running games in good frames but with the skip to remind me I'm still a dirty peasant
First time building a PC, Wanted to keep it under $1300 while still being powerful. Is there anything horribly offensive here?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XTKYkL
>>51707787
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bCGKvK
6700k too damn expensive, I'd do this.
>>51708075
Any specific reason for changing the power supply? Just wondering, I've never done this before.
>>51706570
It looks ok, gonna want a cpu cooler. I like the cryorig h7. Might as well get one of the 970s with a free gayme.
>>51708131
Its more powerful give you more overclocking headroom or allow a future dual card config.
>>51708164
I'm guessing that's why the case is different as well? I might actually change it for a black one since I don't want the bright color to keep me up at night.
>>51708145
Is the included cooler shit? IIRC I'm currently using an AMD cooler and it's fine.
>>51708197
I wanted a little better case on there. The h440 doesnt have a disk drive and then the 760t was a little too expensive. So no particular reason other than its good, maybe a little on the ricey side.
Australian poorman here.
Trying to make a build happen for $1000~AUD
Prices are somewhat insane and it's hard to juggle. AMD CPU is placeholder for price range I guess?
>>51708245
Apparently you can surprisingly hit 4.5ghz with it on house fire temps. Thats 400-500 less than you could for an extra $30ish.
>>51708318
So it wouldn't harm me much at all to have the case I had on there, right? Is there anything significantly better about the one you changed to?
If I'm using a 5870 for video, anyone see an issue with this build? Anything else missing I'm cannibalizing from my current machine. Can't remember what my PSU is, but its probably good enough.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/Fvg2Jx
>>51708380
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/WgRQrH
$1000 is like impossible.
>>51708421
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bCGKvK
no that would completely fine.
>>51708614
Holy shit. I did not expect it.
looking for a new psu, currently using 8 years old chieftec cft 560 a12s, it's decent stable psu but i want something semi modular and slightly more recent (cpu/gpu connectors).
so my problem is about wattage. not sure i wont get limited choice of gpus with 550W. 650W would be nice, but not sure i need it, and it might be a problem if i ever decide to get sli/crossfire. 750W and above would be overkill for single gpu machine.
atm on oced 4690k and hd7790, will probably upgrade gpu when arctic islands or pascal comes out (or 380x earlier).
not looking at cards more expensive than nvidia's x70 line, amd's x80, maybe x80x line.
would 550W be sufficent to run single cards like these? and what would i need to run two of them?
also recommend me some psus, something:
- modular or semi modular
- quiet, even under load
- well made.
dont want to overspend and pay for stuff i dont need, but dont want to cut every corner either. budget - not murrican but i guess up to $100
>>51708553
You dont need all that ram get 8gb and save yourself $160.
>>51708831
I was just putting it down to 16gb after doing some research. The past 2 builds I've done have used 4gb, and that's finally starting to become an issue. Is it really safe to go 8gb as opposed to 16? I had assumed by now there'd be a need for more. I tend to have a ton of programs open at once, though for gaming I suppose that'd be limited to the game itself and winamp.
>>51700938
guys guys guys
FX 8320 + MSI Gaming970 mobo
OR
i5-4590/4460 + Asus H81 gamer/Asus B85 pro gamer
???
if i get the AMD, i have to buy a cooling fan immediately cause stock sucks balls so it's +30 euros from that and pretty much goes to the same price as the intel cpu because of that.
Thoughts?
>>51708729
a 420 draw with a 500w makes me a little leery on second thought. It would probably be fine but consider http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/c2KYkL if you have the money.
>>51708881
Its hard to fill up 8gb unless you are doing something extreme like working with multiple 4k images at once in photoshop.
>>51708958
Certainly won't be doing that. Going to be running max resolution of 1920x1080, unless I somehow manage to upgrade my monitor. I sure as hell hope the 5870 doesn't bottleneck me too bad. I wouldn't have the money for another card for a long while, though to be fair, I have no idea how big the christmas/boxing day sales are.
>>51708992
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/8kcWFT
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/N32pCJ
Like whats the budget you can drop to haswell and get a much cheaper board and save a lot of money for little performance loss and get a gpu. Even a gtx 960 or r9 380 would more than double the power.
>>51708922
someone?
>>51709279
[spoiler]pls respond[/spoiler]
>>51709279
Its close. if it were an h97 board I'd say intel. amd970 is almost always going to give you sli capability too.
>>51709359
after a little bit more thorough checking i am leaning towards the H97 mobo indeed. however, i found that it does not support 1866mhz ram speed. and the hyperX ram i was planning on buying runs on 1866. does that mean that my ram will have to run underclocked?
>>51708922
i5-4590 + H81 for gaming
FX-8320 + 990FX for professional applications utilizing multi-threaded or in general if you're doing a fuckton of things at once.
>>51709239
The 390 would be ideal with you're going into the $400 price range otherwise the 380X is more than enough at 1080p
>>51709405
Yeah I have an old build that only supports 1333 with one of the cheap mobos at it underclocks my 1600. The intel is going to be better, its hard to justify.
>>51709406
is it worth the xtra cash going for an MSI H97 mobo instead of the h81?
>>51709448
Then I guess I should buy a ram that runs at 1600mhz but has better cas latency, right?
Or, say they are the same price, and have same latency but one has 1600mhz and the other 1866 (which is unsupported) should i go for the 1600mhz ? does the fact that the lower clock is supported help performance in any way?
>>51709239
>>51709406
I should've clarified, 1080 is what I'm going to be running at for a while. This is a machine I'm going to be upgrading over time, not keeping for years at a standstill, so the thought of keeping the 5870 for now and upgrading it later on isn't off the table for me. Next big purchase would probably be video card + 4k monitor. The budget for this machine is around 1000-1200, though keep in mind the Canadian dollar is complete shit right now.
To be honest, I've been building this machine with the mindset that the 5870 is more powerful than it is, as I spent like 550$ on it when it came out, and the processor was garbage when I got it (Phenom x3 720), so the processor has always been my bottleneck, to my understanding. I guess that's clouded my thoughts on this.
>>51709453
It would be of higher build quality using newer materials with no doubt a couple of more features
>>51709492
Then a 380X if you're constantly upgrading. That'll get you to the new nodes next year.
A processor upgrade would be a little more important.
>>51709482
No frequency is the amount of bandwidth available whereas latency is how long it takes to access that memory. Lower CAS is better over Freq. unless you're using a professional application where you need huge amounts of bandwidth
Since I received no help earlier, what should I upgrade to? this is what I'm running at the moment
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZnH6Jx
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105029
>>51709553
See if you can't get yourself a Athlon 860k or FX-6300. If you went down the path of an APU, you'd be wanting some higher frequency RAM, around DDR3-2133/4200 if it's supported. Also, that GPU seems out of stock?
>>51709549
Thanks mate. much appreciated
>>51709609
Cont. That case looks pricey, see if you can't cut it down for something cheaper to spend on internal components. New and shiny may look good but doesn't help with performance
>>51709482
It should be the same. Crap like only two ram slots and one pci slot, no raid, crappy audio, only 2x usb 3 on the budget chips sucks. At least they put sata 6 on them now so you can properly use an ssd.
>>51709609
This is what I have at the moment so I was just wondering what I could change to improve the build
>>51709453
Not really unless you need 4 ram slots
>>51709783
Oh, my mistake. What's your budget and what do you do with the PC?
>>51709553
7870 is a pretty decent card. If you did a meaningful upgrade for it the processor would heavily bottleneck it. Like when I put a 290 in my comp running a phenom II x4 it gets half the frame rate it should. So i'd get an i5 haswell and a mobo.
>>51709788
im thinking of saving some cash and going for the h81, and getting 1 dimm of 8gb ram instead of 2 dimms of 4.
are there any disadvantages to that?
It would have me comfortable at the h81 as well, seeing how there's 1 extra slot for 8 more gigs if it's necessary in the future.
>>51706627
>to remind me I'm still a dirty peasant
don't worry about it, anon. the bourgeois will do that for you.
>>51709824
No problem. Considering I just want to upgrade, my budget is fairly low but I'm willing to spend whatever to get something that can run games at at least 60fps and not shit settings
What's everyone's favorite hardware manufacturer?
>>51709846
and what card?
>>51700938
Anything in particular thats wrong with this build? Other than overpriced components
>>51709990
If you have a 7870 its still good basically equivalent to a 950. The next step up would be looking for a used 290/x like a tri-x or pcs+ or getting a new 390 nitro.
>>51710025
the graphics card is too cheap compared to the rest of the setup.
>>51709959
Well, you could give the CPU an overclock if you're able to. Other than that maybe just replace the GPU with a 380X
>>51710025
The cooler could do with a bit of a review if you want to push it a little push. Maybe a CLC would be good
>>51710067
Yeah I like the idea of a 290x, any recs for a mobo?
>>51710073
Ah yeah I already have it from my previous build. im gonna use it until the "10x the power of 900 series" Pascal comes out or something.
>>51710097
I was thinking about that. Corsair H110i GT any good?
>>51710025
>Other than overpriced components
Your psu, ram, and mobo are like double the price of what you need bra.
>>51710025
Any reason you need X99? You could go with Z97 and spend a lot less unless you're doing something really CPU intensive. Also
>Hitachi Deathstar
>>51710150
Whats wrong with HGST? I keep hearing theyre the most reliable
>>51709896
You should get one 8gb stick if you are going to buy a motherboard with only 2 slots.
Dual channel doesn't make a difference in gaming unless you are using integrated GPU which you probably won't.
>>51710135
It's great although if you want to go one better, the EK Predator Range
>>51710180
UltraStar are the best but DeskStar are fine.
>>51710103
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130801 I like this one.
>>51710260
Seems like it will be perfect, and looks great too, thanks
>>51706570
Are there any better options I can take in a similar price range? Everything just seems a bit old. Also, I'mr eading some mixed thoughts on the GA-970ADS3P's OC abilities. I really don't know much about overclocking, why would a board interfere with it?
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Teh_reaper112/saved/PsYj4D
Would this build run just cause 3 maxed out at a silky smooth at 60fps?
>>51711755
Probably not.
>>51711755
It'll run it at 60fps however not maxed out. You'll need a 390 at least for that
Good cheap Intel i5 1550 mini itx board? Should i get the one with wifi?
