Is sysadmin a meme job where you just watch porn all day?
You get paid to funpost on /g/.
>>51688122
that and murmuring something about uptime xdddd
If you're good at your job then yes.
>>51688122
>s sysadmin a meme job where you just watch porn all day?
dealing with those wires is not a sysadmins job. That would be left to network engineers
>when your rack is tidier than your job's
>>51688266
post tits
You have to fix peoples computers, who watched porn at work without adblock.
No. Sysadmin is a challenging career. If you manage to get very good over the years, and especially if you learn to automate, you can find yourself with a lot of downtime. But usually with that comes more responsibility. So maybe you only work 4-6 hours 4-5 days a week, but when shit hits the fan, you're the guy who's gonna be sitting there for 10, 15, 20 or more hours fixing it.
Helpdesk technician != sysadmin.
Junior NOC tech != sysadmin.
And on and on.
Its so easy I literally don't have to do anything as a sysadmin after 1 years at the same company.
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>>51688888
What position are you? Pay? Degree?
>nice penta
>>51688197
No one who can seriously call himself a network engineer did that cabling though....fuck ive had to clean up shit like that after my company bought others out.
How the fuck do people even let it get like that?!
What type of skill set and qualifications does one need to become a sysadmin?
That ironic amount of salt
>>51689147
job security
>>51688345
tell us more, sysadmin-senpai
>>51688888
checked
>>51689147
laziness, people who just don't give a shit, idiot bosses who want things done as fast as possible. "we need the servers up and running asap,Hurry up do it NOW!!!"
>>51688345
more plz
I'm a help desk retard right now. How do I get a sysadmin job? What skills should I learn?
>>51689514
Get that O'Reilly book I think is called Running Linux
>le meme <insert word here>
F*cking epic XD
>>51689303
>>51689461
I'm just a student in a Sysadmin program at a trades school (more heavily focused on networking though and will be a CCNP by the end of it). Almost everyone I know in my life is in the tech industry though, and I know plenty of accomplished systems and networking people to back what I'm saying up.
Right now I'm planning on going for the RHCSA cert as well as the A+. After that, just the CCNA and CCNP. I'm not very interested in stockpiling certs plus I already have a little helpdesk experience to get through the doors.
Automation is awesome and I'm hoping to git gud at it.
>>51688122
if you work at a large company then no.
I'm aiming for this OP. Is that all you do ? Where do i sign up
>>51688122
It will if they hire me.
I'll convince my boss the servers need some GPU's and then i'll lock myself into the server room.
Come out after 4 days with my right arm twice as thick as my left arm, a way higher postcount and 3 more games to add to my "played through"-list
>>51689899
automation in batch/python or what?
>>51690209
jenkins
>>51690209
Exactly. Mostly Bash, PowerShell and Python is what I'm after. I'm pretty experienced with Python, starting to get into Bash scripts now. I suck but, hopefully I'll get there.
>>51689881
Nice meme post, you fucking virgin
>>51688888
i dont just watch porn sometimes i play vidya
>>51688122
It's a meme job until something goes wrong
>>51689899
There is no school that prepares you for CCNP unless you have CCNA knowledge, you got duped.
>>51690767
It's a two year program that's very intense and very respected. Year one teaches enough to pass the CCNA. Year two gets you to the CCNP. All the big name companies hire directly from the program during the second year, a lot of people actually graduate early because they start working at Cisco or Microsoft or $BigLocalCompany a few months before graduation, usually as Jr. Sysadmins, Network Admins or Security Analysts, but some graduates do just start as helpdesk.
My life basically doesn't exist for the next two years.
>>51688122
I'm a fairly senior (mostly FreeBSD) sysadmin at an ISP.
The thing about this job is that the amount of stress/effort/serious work time you need to put into it scales inversely with how good at it you are. If you spend a while setting up a really rock-solid system that you can easily manage (i.e. write a shitload of scripts and hook everything together with puppet/fabric), you can spend a lot of time jerking off and/or working on long-term projects that are actually fun instead of doing mundane mind-numbing routine bullshit.
I could see someone who isn't very good at scripting/unixes absolutely hating a real sysadmin job because they'd either fuck everything up or spend stupid amounts of time on shit that shouldn't take much time at all.
>>51691362
A CCNP is a proffesional level cert but without any experience you will only be qualified for junior positions.
But if you do get it you will be far ahead of most college grads looking for IT positions. Most of them get hired into helpdesk and have to spend ten years figuring shit out and moving jobs. Its sort of like programming were people get stuck in QA because they did QA once even though the degree they have is programming.
I have told multiple people who wanted into IT from college to not accept any helpdesk positions unless they cant feed themselves.
I would like to become a system admin. My plan currently is to apply to any it traineeships in the country over the next 6 months. I guess I have an advantage of having no higher education so companies will get kick backs for training me. I just did an aptitude test for a job in a bank. Think I did pretty average, pretty weird feeling knowing you aren't exceptionally smart. Help me keep my hopes up friends.
>>51694501
Study server OSes (linux or windows) scripting languages(python or powershell) and do your best to learn the basics or virtual machines, based around VMware. If you can even say you have seen some of these things that should set you apart from others with no real experience.
>>51694562
Okie dokies thanks for the help.
>>51694365
Yeah definitely. There's plenty of internships available in my program luckily. For me though, I already have almost 3 years experience in a helpdesk position, so there's a good chance I'll be able to get right into a Jr. role right out of school.
I'm about to start my quest for a Bachelors of Applied Science in IT because I want to eventually be a System/Network Admin. I plan on getting certed and all that too. Is my degree just a meme because it seems like certs are all I really need to get a job doing this kind of stuff.
>>51694806
Thats awesome, I went into the military and became a sysadmin. It was right for me, and I think for a lot of people, who dont like normal learning environments. But your plan sounds pretty cool.
>>51694856
So Certs are very interesting at one point I had almost ten thousand dollars worth of Certs,(some require you to take a class) but now that I have a strong record of work, I dont do certs unless my company pays for them. They are like degrees in that they get you in the door. They get you that first job(which is the hardest) So if you are getting a degree the certs are just more of the same. Really employers want a degree/Certs and experiance.
>>51694995
I wanted to join the military for the longest time, but I got talked out of it by two different people I've dated. I guess people really don't like long distance.
Part of me definitely wants to take my eventually sysadmin career abroad at some point, or to uncharted territory in some way or another.
>>51694856
>Getting a BAS
>In IT of all things
>To be a sysadmin
Good fuckin luck, kiddo
>>51695025
>Good luck
Requires much less math than doing Management Info. Systems. Should I do that instead? I got accepted to the Uni via MIS and want to switch to that BAS after I finish some prereqs at the college I'm at now.
I'm shit at math, really shit. That going to hinder me? All my friends are doing engineering but I can't into math like they can so fuck that.
>>51695055
Bachelor's is just for passing HR's scanning of your resume. Major in whatever seems fun. You don't need school for sysadmin. If you must do something related to that goal, pick something like Computer Engineering or Business...
But really, just get your A+ and CCNA, try to do some helpdesk part-time, and set up a homelab and play around for fun to learn. You'll be fine that way.
>>51695023
I will say I saw pretty much every long distance or not already established relationship in the military crumble and usually badly. But if your free of girlfriends or have been married for several years it can be an amazing experience.
Sys admin is for stupid lazy people that didn't cut it as a Software Engineer.
>>51695079
A+ and CCNA are good for getting into helpdesk spots. Being able to write powershell or python on a white-board will get you through a lot more interviews, and the degree should get you into the interview.
>>51695079
>Computer Engineering
>Business
Comp engineering programs like CIS have tons of math. Business requires Business calc and Finite Math which would destroy me. I picked IT because it interests me and the only math-y course would be intro to coding.
I'm already getting a meme associates in general studies next week, So its not like I have absolutely nothing to start off with.
I'll do A+ certing for sure, what about Net+? Is that even still a thing?
>>51695113
Sh-sh-sh-shots fired.
>>51695113
Except I make more than most software engineers. And I never wanted to be a software engineer. Though I did a stint in product Dev helping write API structure, and other types of software requirements.
>>51695132
Same as A+ but for networking. do CCNA if you can.
>>51695113
So do your sys admins ignore all the tickets you submit because your an asshole and this is how you take out your rage?
>>51695162
*you're
Point proven.
My parents bitch that their IT people at work just do online shopping and facebook all day long. Is the possibility of getting paid to shitpost a reality?
>>51695132
Intro to coding won't be math-y at all. If anything, the heaviest math you're going to get in an IT degree is subnetting and converting binary/decimal/hexadecimal. Which isn't very math-y.
Don't bother with Network+ or any other CompTIA cert besides the A+. CCNA is the gold standard for showing off networking knowledge. Do you wanna be a Windows or a Linux admin? Windows = MCSA cert, Linux = RHCSA cert.
Don't bother getting a million certs. Just get some basics and do more once you're in the field and your employer asks for it or pays for it (or both).
Experience trumps all. Your degree means nothing. Especially an IT degree (sorry). Just make sure you get an internship if you can, or work in a related job during school.
CCENT, ccna R/s, ccnp R/S here... Taking a actual class for any of these exams will lead you into a false sense of security, the only benefit wouild be to gain access to any equipment that you dont personnal own or gns3 doesnt emulate.
>>51695183
>Experience trumps all. Your degree means nothing. Especially an IT degree (sorry). Just make sure you get an internship if you can, or work in a related job during school.
My parents just want me to get a degree in something that isn't liberal arts. They understand that certs and experience are the biggest factor but want me to at least have something, in the end I'm not the one paying for it.
>>51695227
>paying cash money to do something you don't 100% want to do, because your parents said so
Never gonna make it brah.
>>51695169
Ya, you really highlighted my point.
>>51695183
Except its hard to get any experience without a degree or certs these days. And the degree will at least get you can interview most of the time.
>>51695252
Sorry I should have worded it better. I AM interested in the material in the IT program and I DO want a non meme-ish degree.
>>51688266
post your body pic, i will fap as tribute to you.
>>51688291
>>51695398
server rack, you /b/tards
>>51695410
Here's your reply.
I've been a sysadmin for about 6 months now. Sometimes theres long periods of time when theres nothing to do. Othertimes it is crazy hectic and I'm busy all day/week. It all works out. It just depends on where you work honestly. I've heard stories about IT people who just sit around and play games all the time. I haven't had that luxury yet. Although we debated installing fallout4 onto our workstations recently since nobody was at work during the thanksgiving break.
>>51695517
This pretty much echoes my experience for the last 7 years.
Obligatory true story: "Now that's what I call a Hacker".[1]
[1]: https://www.jitbit.com/alexblog/249-now-thats-what-i-call-a-hacker/
>>51689412
>do it NOW!!!
>>51695142
except you don't, make more than a software engineer, and you didn't write api level software.
How do I get a job as sysadmin in Sydney?
>>51688888
penta poster is right
will a computer science engineering (seriously, that's what it's called in spain) be enough to become a sysadmin, /g/? I really don't know what else I could need
Sysadmins of /g/, when you mean automation what kind of shit you mean?
That and dooming your company by preventing progress.
>...muh....and that... freedoms.... and that's why we're not away from PHP 5.3... security updates don't matter... ought to be enough... Never upgrading... maybe perl...
>>51688888
Holy Dubs!
>>51697752
bash scripting
>>51697746
>comp sci degree
Don't waste your time with a comp sci degree.
4 years ago I decided not to go to university and I would have just been graduating now if I had.
But instead I just jumped into the industry, worked hard, didn't go into debt and now I'm self employed and contracting at the university.
>>51697762
>That and dooming your company by preventing progress.
This. Sysadmins are such fucking blockers to getting any work done. If sales are the "yes-men", and devs are the guys who always say "no", then sysadmins are the "fucking never, stop asking for change" people.
>>51688149
xd le xkcd reference looool
>>51688888
Sysadmin confirmed for dream job. Brb becoming sysadmin
>>51697752
when you write l33t, custom made, sustainable and efficient code for your system and only really work when shit hits the fan or you have a code audit coming.
>>51698968
This only applies in a shit tier education country like the USA, any other country you should do four years and collect your free degree.
Hell even Germany gives free tuition for foreigners.
Blog time.
I worked in various helpdesk positions for 8-12 long years (depending on how you count). I will never get that time back and it is one of the major regrets of my life. It was absolutely soul-crushing. My stress levels were through the goddamn roof and I burned out *at least* four times.
At one point, I was spending 4+ hours in traffic each day, paying $22 dollars for parking, working 12-14 hours, and reporting to 6-8 different managers... to make $15/hour. I ended up crying on a server room floor for a few hours from stress. Another project had me flying around the country (getting absolutely FUCKED on expenses) and putting in 120+ hours a week. And always, always as a temp with no benefits or job security, no matter what lies management told me about their plans.
Anyway. Found myself unemployed and finally decided to risk a change. Decided I wanted to be a sysadmin. Been using Linux and BSDs personally for over a decade at that point, so figured I'd give it a shot. Got a few certs (already had CCNA, got CISSP and the RHCSA, was working on the RHCE.) A few depressing phone interviews for supposedly junior positions, asking stupid shit you really don't need to memorize (like the order of the fields for the output of a command with specific flags set). Got lucky and was hired by a small company. It happened fast. I sent my resume to them and within two hours they wanted a phone interview, then an in-person interview, and I was made an offer a couple days later.
>>51700186
Turns out they were desperate. Really, really desperate. I interviewed with two gentlemen I thought were the senior sysadmins. LOL nope, just a couple of developers who happened to know enough about Linux to ask a few questions and judge my hands-on answers. Turns out I was now *the* sysadmin. They previously had two, but one had been fired and the other walked out. Several months ago. And they had both been utterly incompetent (I proved that to my new employers quickly and repeatedly...).
Shit was falling apart. This was a company that lives off of relatively high security contracts, but they were barely keeping up with running OS updates. Without exaggerating in the slightest, they were literally a couple of months away from losing everything due to negligence and going out of business. (Thankfully, they didn't spell out the gravity of the situation until later.)
My first day on the job was spent with typical stuff; getting my computer set up, introductions, etc. On day two, I was asked to update the kernel and reboot all of the systems in one of the production environments that evening. What. I spent the rest of the day freaking out and googling for advice and any potential issues I could think of. Thankfully, almost all of the systems came back up without problems. Almost. Got it resolved eventually, though.
The first six months was just desperately putting out fires across three production environments. The second six months have been spent working on shit that should have been in place years ago. Like backups. And documentation. And logging. And automation.
>>51700281
I think it'll be another year, maybe two, before I can really relax, but I'm proud of what I've been able to accomplish so far. Every day I find myself smiling like an idiot child. My pay started at more than I thought I was worth and has already been raised significantly. I have benefits and paid time off and insurance. My decisions actually make a difference and people actually respect my opinion. And the best part? I'm getting paid to do the professional version of what I was aimlessly doing on my own for fun. Research and experimentation and tinkering all day long. It's absolutely fantastic.
Some protips for aspiring sysadmins.
Literally worthless on the job (I have all of them), except to get you in the door:
>CS degrees
>helpdesk experience
>certs
Actual skills any sysadmin must posses:
>can go on newegg, know what to get, and actually build a PC
>can install an OS, run updates, and has at least a vague sense of what needs to be done to secure it
>can fucking google shit
Automation != scripts. I mean, yeah, they play a part, but try establishing a baseline image with a shell script. It doesn't work for long. Mine got to about 10,000 lines before I realized that. Begin looking into something like Puppet, Chef, Ansible, or SaltStack. Personally, for my needs and preferences, I like SaltStack. Ideally, you should be able to specify a few variables, run a single command or press a single button, and end up with a fully functional system.
>>51700186
>working for an u.s. employer that pays shit
here in switzerland a sysadmin gets at least 7k a month and work expenses are paid by the company, since it's customary here.
>>51688122
Sysadmin jobs are going away, don't pursue a career in it.
Get into consulting instead if you look presentable, know a thing or two and able to actually converse with other human beings. Consulting jobs are increasing and pay decent.
sysadmin gen when
also http://www.lansweeper.com/Forum/yaf_topics28_Installers.aspx
>>51700382
I wasn't a sysadmin, then. I basically started as temp doing manual labor (shuffling around desktop computers to the techs, unboxing, taking care of trash). Since we were all on the same contract, one of my supervisors noticed something I said and offered to "promote" me to a tech. Not long after, I became a supervisor myself, helping the techs troubleshoot and shit. All with the same pay of course.
But yeah, it was fucking bullshit. I don't remember the details of how they screwed me so hard on travel expenses, but it came out to something like $6,000 in a few months. Seriously. They took advantage of me because I didn't know better and I was already stressed out of my mind. At that point, though, I just wanted out. I couldn't deal with it anymore. I probably could've gotten that money with a few polite emails, but I was mentally exhausted and couldn't bring myself to interact with those scumbags any more.
Don't ever work as an IT temp, kids. It isn't fucking worth it.
>>51700430
>Sysadmin jobs are going away, don't pursue a career in it.
I'll bite. Why? "The cloud"? Fuck off, dumbass.
>Get into consulting instead if you look presentable, know a thing or two and able to actually converse with other human beings. Consulting jobs are increasing and pay decent.
LOL. I have yet to work with, meet, or even fucking *hear* about an IT consultant who was actually worth the cost. You sell bullshit to management and you know it. Some of my biggest headaches and biggest messes I've been tasked to clean up after, have been the result of consultants. Consultants only reinforce how valuable in house sysadmins are.
