INTEL FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-skylake-cpus-are-bending-under-the-pressure-of-some-coolers/?utm_content=bufferd4648&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgfb
>buying a skylake CPU
>>51687476
>skymeme
>>51687499
>not having friends or family
>We thought too much force had been applied to the chip by installing one of those coolers with an electric screwdriver.
GEE I FUCKING WONDER WHAT HAPPENED??
>>51687491
>>51687499
>>51687505
>>51687512
>Implying
>skygay
meanwhile my devils canyon is bending the cooler
>>51687526
This is also happening with coolers installed carefully by hand.
>torquing your cooler down this hard
>using an electric screwdriver for something like mounting a cpu cooler
literally wtf
>>51687526
>we've never experienced a similar issue on older Intel CPUs with thicker wafers.
Also
>We thought too much force had been applied to the chip by installing one of those coolers with an electric screwdriver.
>installing one of those coolers with an electric screwdriver.
>installing one of those coolers
>one of those coolers
What happened to the other one, then?
>bought cheapest Haswell-E
>have 12 threads @ 4.6ghz
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>Skylake
>>51687551
care to post a link to that article ?
the german site posts cooler maker responses, some have tested out their coolers to see if they will bend the cpu/whatever.
Doesn't look like any of them came back confirming the issue instead they said everything was fine.
Rather this seems like some details are missing to jump to a conclusion, and possible the user that first reported it isn't telling us something.
>>51687610
enjoy your 28 PCIe lanes
>>51687558
clutches are amazing.
You can set it to not over tighten shit.
>>51687636
You're a fucking moron. gen 2 28 PCI-express lanes are insanely fucking hard to saturate. GPUs saturate a gen 2 x8 lane at best. That leaves you with 24GB/s left of bandwidth to saturate.
Kill yourself.
If I can get 6600k for same price as 4960k (New PC) should I get it? I thought it was pretty good?
Or is /g/ memeing me into thinking its shit?
>>51687636
enjoy 16 lanes on your 6700K
>>51687600
Have you considered that the older CPUs with the thicker substrate have a tolerance?
Intel's spec say 50lbs
maybe Skylake has no spare capacity, and 50lbs really means 50lbs,
meanwhile the older cpus have 5/10/15lbs to spare in some cases.
They say "one of those coolers" because they moved around the skylake CPU into different systems and each time they used an electric screw driver to mount the cooler.
So they can't even tell you during which installation it was damaged
>>51687681
You should definitely get the skylake chip if you have down's syndrome. You should also eat your own shit afterwards.
>>51687667
Gen3
>>51687491
this
4790k stock masterrace
>>51687681
I really think this is a fringe issue
Don't be a moron and use an electric screw driver.
Avoid any big bumps/don't drop your PC
If you have a heavy cooler remove it before transporting your PC
>>51687725
Oh sorry, typo.
>>51687681
i had the same problem.
6600k was on sale, it was 10 bucks cheaper then 4960k
the only thing now is that the mobo and the ddr4 ram were more costly.
but ddr4 price is comming down so is mobo price
just get skylake (10/15% better preformance)
x265 hevc hardware supported(4k movies)
efficient when under low loads (browsing 4chin)
>>51687752
you mean 4% better performance
>>51687765
This.
>>51687765
still 4%
if you'r building your first pc wy not get the best one
>>51687752
>just get skylake (10/15% better preformance)
More like 3%
>x265 hevc hardware supported(4k movies)
The iGPU is a piece of shit, even the R7-250 performs better.
>efficient when under low loads (browsing 4chin)
Yeah because using 5-10 less watts on a desktop makes a fuckton of a difference.
>>51687802
ok, so why not go 2011-3 if you're building the best one? thought so, you dumb fucking memer
ITT:
Broadwho mad-irrelevant & memelake BTFO
>>51687802
>3% better IPC or a sturdier chip that won't break when I install a cooler on it.
>>51687476
>>51687847
b-but my igpu :((( I'm building new memelake PC in almost 2016 to use it for hardware hevc!! I swear!
>>51687821
>still 3%
>x265 hevc hardware supported(4k movies)
>The iGPU is a piece of shit, even the R7-250 performs better.
decoding hevc is cpu intensive not gpu intensive.
>efficient when under low loads (browsing 4chin)
Yeah because using 5-10 less watts on a desktop makes a fuckton of a difference.
not cooling your cpu passivly so it doudent make a sound
>>51687894
so you just proven his point, only corrected it w/o even knowing what you're talking about (he was right tho because hevc is CPU-intensive on non-hevc hw ready systems aka every gpu out now)
keep trying to meme out of it son
>>51687894
Hardware decoding means the GPU decodes the video you dumbass. We also already have passive coolers for LGA 2011.
>not getting amd
fuckin plebs senpai desu
tfw I bought a 4790k instead of a skylake
>>51688012
You just dodged a fucking bullet anon. Good for you.
>tfw bought a 4690K right after Skylake launched because price drops
>>51688003
>upgraded from fx8350 to 5820k
>3dmark shows 149% performance improvement on physics test
>top kek
>>51688027
Only if I could have dodged the 970 bullet.
tfw considering to buy i3-6100 skylake over fx-6300
damn is this going to cause haswell prices to go up? I really wanted to buy a 4690k
>>51688073
You should consider drinking mercury instead.
>>51687871
>poo to the loo
kek'd
>>51687667
>PCIe 4.0 comes out
>top of the line GPUs on PCIe x4 cards
>>51687937
i stated the differences between 4690k and 6600k
if you can buy 6600k for the smae price wy not?
its not like youre sacraficing anything.
just dont be a total idiot and break it.
>>51687982
o sorry thought it was handeld by the cpu
but it seems the igpu dous that.
still if you dont game that much the igpu of skylake can run low demanding games fine.
gta 5
guild wars 2
also the overclocking potensial is way better on the 6600k then on 4690k
got a stable 4.6GHz overclock whitout even overvolting
>>51688111
also the mobo's come with handy new features like
usb-c/usb3.1 (thunderbolt on some mobo's)
m.2 4x
>>51688111
Nice trips but no it can't. At least not above 720p.
Also overclocking has to do more with luck than whether it's haswell or skylake. Some people have gotten skylake chips that can't go over 4.2 GHz even with 1.4v.
>>51688102
GPUs can only saturate 2-4 GB of pci-e bandwidth. pci-e gen 4 is beyond overkill.
So glad I bought AMD, robust american chips that'll never bend or break due to a little heatsink pressure
>>51687681
You should get an i5 4460, no reason to spend extra money for unlocked chips that don't actually give you noticeable performance improvements unless you have a 144hz display
>>51687982
That ain't a passive cooler
>>51687734
>Haswell k series
enjoy your no VT-d
>>51687734
>buys an unlocked processor
>keeps it at stock clock
>>51688547
the 4790K and 4690K have all got VT-d, they are an exception.
>>51688516
That cooler shows how retarded passive is. That is rated for 95w passive or 300w with a fan. Christ that thing with a quality fan on it would bitch slap a 9590 into submission.
>>51688690
It's amazing though
>>51687476
Bendgate 3 incoming!
>>51688706
I do want one just because really, but the sheer size of it means it really will murder shitty mobos.
>>51688757
Gotta have it be horizontal most likely, or have one of the motherboards with "armor"
It still blows me away that intel decided to cheapo out on PCB thickness on $250+ cpus.
And that they've been cheaping out with TIM for several years.
Even HEDT gets keked. it should be much closer to the latest Xeons. Instead its just the fucking rejects. Plus, the fucking chipset feature lag. Fuck you Brian Kazrahaxhhsich
they're bending from overzealous faggots with non stock coolers and or approved coolers. this is intels fault?
get fucked kid
>>51688904
It's almost if
>le greedy shekel jewintel meme
Is for real... Gee... I wonder. When will the goyim smarten up?
>>51688856
I don't think you'd need to go that far - just a mobo that has a nice solid pcb. Though I suppose all bar the cheapest overclocking intel boards will have solid pcbs and any AMD chip you are going to slap that thing on is going to be on a mobo built to take the sort of clocks that cooler can handle (with a fan).
>>51688904
the pcbs are still rated at the same pressure specs as all previous generations it's just thinner. they have cheaped out on tims.
but blaming intel for idiots is the same as blaming a car manufacturer for you putting the wrong fuel in it.
>>51687476
> not using stock cooling
They fell for it
>>51688648
>overclocking
>not caring about stability
>>51687476
We had this thread yesterday you faggot.
>tfw noctua master race
CHINA
>>51689054
Why would you ever use Intel's stock coolers?
They're noisy and cool poorly.
>>51689366
they don't bend the cpu
>PhenomII X6 master race
Six cores at 4.2ghz and I could club a baby seal to death with it.
Suck it jewfags.
>tfw been using a 6700k w/ a nepton 240m for about a month
Now we just play the waiting game.
>>51689198
>buying a k version
>not overclocking
>>51689554
Sometimes buying the K version is cheaper.
Here in mexico the I5-4690K was cheaper than the I5-4460 so i got one.
got 4690k with cryorig h7 like a week ago. was considering 6600k but decided to save on both ram i reused and cpu itself.
this week later, feels like i dodged a bullet.
>>51689366
I found a good use for one.
>>51689666
Is that a heavily overclocked and overvolted 290X or something? What GPU needs that amount of cooling?
>>51689666
Reference 290x?
>>51689688
>>51689698
Reference pcb running 1220mhz core, 1500mhz memory at a truly eye watering 1.38v. The intel fan I hacked up sits over vrm1 to provide additional cooling to handle the voltage. Realistically I should have the card under water.
>>51687542
Lol got dents in the heat sink from my DC 4790k too
>>51689711
That explains.
>tfw never pushed my 290 above 1150 because I'm scared of giving it too much voltage
I know it's supposed to be able to handle 95° but I'd rather not have something running that close to water's boiling point to my left, you know?
>>51689760
To be fair my card really needs tons of volts to overclock - it won't do 1100mhz on anything less than +75mv. I kept trying to squeeze 1250mhz core out of it but the card simply won't take it.
>>51687600
>wafers
They're fucking morons who dont apparently know that wafers are not the green PCB but the blueish thing under the lid.
And who blame Intel for shitty third party part.
>>51687982
lol that's a server heatsink, i wouldn't consider that passive since there are loud as fuck fans blowing on it from the front of the case.
>>51689796
Damn, looks like you really lost the silicon lottery then. I had mine running at 1111MHz stable, +30mv. Running at stock now, since stability with the new drivers was a bit of an issue.
>>51689906
Hey-ho. At stock clocks (I don't run the overclock 24/7) it runs under 50c for most loads so at the very least the fuckoff huge cooler is working.
>>51689923
Yeah, those are some nice temps alright. About 20° lower than the (also pretty huge) cooler on my Vapor-X.
>>51689384
This.
>>51689366
Did you even read the OP?
>>51687821
>More like 3%
Only at stock clocks.. maybe even worse performance at stock.
But dat OC doe...
>>51687542
kek, devil's canyon confirmed for next legendary cpu ala 2500k
>>51689366
>>51689054
>>51688948
nigga, unlocked skylakes doesn't even have a stock cooler. Get the fuck back to /v/ and stop pretending you know what you are talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgt1fkkKIF8
>>51690455
You can overclock haswell chips just fine, no need to use a memechip to overclock. Also rumour is less memelake chips are actually capable of pushing 4.4 GHz.
>>51690615
> buying a CPU that doesn't come with a cooler
Holy çụçķ
>>51690615
you can buy an intel cooler for $8
>>51690637
>Also rumour is less memelake chips are actually capable of pushing 4.4 GHz.
Only if you delid. Otherwise heat transfer is a HUGE problem.
Nothing will ever be as well made as sandybridge and Intel knows it. They made a mistake with this chip and have cut corners to ensure planned obsolescence in every way possible going forward.
>>51690740
Which sucks ass. If you're getting a "K" edition intel CPU it's because you plan to OC it.
>>51690740
Young goyim, your game is weak.
>>51690637
Yeah, if you didn't get unlucky like me and got a piece of shit 4770K that can barely push 4.3GHz at 1.32V with a custom water loop.
>>51687476
well looks like I'm not upgrading just yet. (them feels when you have a Corsair water cooler...)
OYYYYYYYYYYVEYYYYYYYYY
>>51690841
>What are standard sizes
I bet you complain about a SSD only using a third of the 3.5" Case.
>>51688056
>switched from $150 CPU to $400 CPU
>performance is better
>installing one of those coolers with an electric screwdriver
>we've never experienced a similar issue on older Intel CPUs with thicker wafers
baka
>>51690883
back to /v/ kid
kek
i have a broadwell. does this apply to me? :S
>>51687526
If you've never mounted a cooler, all the air coolers where you actually have to screw shit in have some mechanism that won't let you tighten them above a certain limit.
It's pretty shit of Intel if they made a CPU which can withstand less force but has the same cooler mounting system. If it's the same people are naturally going to assume that it's compatible when it appears to not be.
>>51690935
probably
but barely anybody bought desktop broadwell
>>51690615
>buying a cpu without a cooler
wat
>>51690937
>Intel
>Tiny changes to socket mounts every few months
>AMD
>YOU WANT SOCKET, HERE, IS SOCKET MY GRANDMA USED WHEN FIGHT KOREAN WAR
>>51690962
>using the stock cooler
>>51690949
yeah i feel special with this cpu lol
I was going to get a closed loop water cooler anyway so it wont be too heavy.
>>51690969
Well at least Intel kept the same heatsink mounting system since like 1st gen i5s. I'm still using the waterblock I got for my old i5 750 on haslel.
how is this even possible without physically breaking the socket or motherboard? this reeks of amd shilling
>>51691028
Simple, the CPU is more fragile than the socket or the metal backplate reinforced motherboard.
>>51690969
It just works
>>51690989
tfw i just read the article and the exact cooler h90 i as going to use is mentioned
>>51691028
>tighten heat sink too much
>crushes cpu
how can you not understand?
>>51687476
>implying this is an intel issue and not a matter of cooler manufacturers not taking structural specs of the cpu into account
>>51690962
>>51690722
>ignoring the best line of CPUs ever made because of autistic tendencies
>>51690969
I really love AMD for not changing sockets so god damn much. Maybe the new Zen socket might even be backwards compatible with FM2+ APUs.
>>51691101
Some of these coolers were made and sold when Skylel didn't exist though, they were made for older Intel CPUs that use the same mounting mechanism.
The coolers never broke the older CPUs they were made for, Skylel is just weaker.
I don't know who's fault it is. Maybe some coolers were above stated tolerance but worked anyway on older CPUs because they could withstand the force. Maybe Intel changed the tolerance on Skylel but kept the same mounting mechanism, that would be Intel's fault.
>>51691135
It won't be, it's DDR4 not DDR3.
>>51690637
>get 4.5Ghz stable at under 1.3v
>have to push it to 1.4v to get over 4.6Ghz stable w/ temps through the roof
Is this how OCs work? Is there just a hump that's a total bitch to cross?
>>51691109
>being fucking retarded
I had one of those before and it came with a cooler.
>>51691101
jewtel literally made memelake chips thinner to save a few cents on production. They could have left the PCB size the same as haswell chips but their Judaism wouldn't allow it.
>>51687476
>Some coolers are tight enough to damage motherboards
>These same coolers damage the cpu when the motherboard is damaged
>blame intel for third party coolers fucking up
>>51691137
isn't skylake a smaller nanometer die? intel really should have used a different mounting system or warned cooler makers that certain cooler wouldn't work with those cpus even though they were mountable
>>51690637
Shit. I can get [email protected]. What cooler? I can't get 4.8 stable at all though.
>>51691210
That has nothing to do with it, it's not the die that is breaking, it's the substrate (the green thing with all the contact pads on the bottom). The one on Haswell is significantly thicker and as such more sturdy.
>>51691166
prove it faggot, login to your account, goto your order history and link me the item you bought.
Intel knows their customer base. If they are spending this much on a CPU, they know that a third party cooler will be an automatic purchase.
>>51691314
>this much on a cpu
>confirmed for poor
>>51687476
>third party coolers
you only have yourselves to blame
pretty smug over here with my stock cooler and working computer.
what benefit of 3rd part cooler or overclock or temperature? so game looks realistic? go outside if want realism game is game. computer for do real working
>>51691355
0/10
>>51691178
These coolers never caused harm to haswell chips. The reason they kill the memelake chip is because intel made the PCB too fucking thin. These niggers knew fully well that a thinner PCB would pose a structural weakness when coolers where clamped on top of them but refused to address the issues because "muh shekels".
In addition to this they never told cooler manufacturers about this serious problem.
>>51691135
There's going to be a new socket am4 released in mid 2016
it's going to have some type of piledriver based apu and later in the year zen cpus
>>51691355
>computer for do real working
You mean fapping to naked chinese cartoons like everyone else here does?
>>51691355
>>51691392
>These coolers never caused harm to haswell chips
Which is a miracle because they damaged motherboards. Does anybody else not think a cooler that damages a motherboard is defective?
This is a problem with very specific third party coolers, not all third party coolers.
>>51691375
>>51690722
>>51690740
>>51690962
if u need to screw a heatsink on instead of using the poppers then its clearly too heavy
no shit its going to break something
>>51691409
>hentai is chinese
Right now im fapping to Lelu Love
>>51691467
Are you pretending or you're really retarded?
>>51691354
I'm sorry, we're not all going to spend 2 months salary on a CPU alone.
>>51691493
lmao that's not even a month, get a better job
>>51691248
do you guys realise how fast this is?
wavelength of a signal at 1ghz is about a foot
5ghz closer to 2 inches. for a valid signal to return you are talking 1/2 inch maximum with ideal waveforms
insane.
>>51691355
>>51691488
Anime isnt chinese you retard
>>51691493
>2 months
>implying we all flip burgers
>mfw i make 85k a year
>>51691529
>Anime isnt chinese you retard
N E W F A G
E
W
F
A
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>>51691529
Confirmed for retarded
Broadwell-E SOON. 6, 8, and 10 core options are going to be amazing. Zen better hurry the fuck up.
>>51691538
>>51691542
Been here since 2005 so how about you cut off your own dick and eat it then shit it out and eat it again with a side of your mothers?
>>51691572
>Been here since 2005
Sure thing buddy, sure thing
>>51691572
>being this new
>>51691529
>>51691498
Sure thing Mr sysadmin watching family guy reruns all day... hope your shit is super comfy
>>51691562
>6, 8, and 10 core
Source?
I've only seen 10 core confirmed and it will probably be 1500 shekels
>>51691493
But those chips are specifically made and marketed to commercial and industrial firms, thus they can charge almost whatever they want
As if billion dollar companies are going to skimp out on workstations and server farms because of cost
>>51691612
Try and keep up
>>51691612
>As if billion dollar companies are going to skimp out on workstations and server farms because of cost
You'd be surprised.
>>51691601
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/218050-intel-reportedly-prepping-10-core-broadwell-e-processors-with-25mb-l3-cache
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-6950x-broadwell-e-has-10-cores-and-20-threads.html
>>51691649
How?
If server farms and workstations provide a critical service then it would be in the best interest of the firm to no skimp out
>>51691687
Intel is bathing in so many shekels they just don't give a fuck anymore.
>>51691581
>>51691585
Back to reddit please
>>51691588
Confirmed for all kinds of jelly
>>51691687
You're right. It would be in their best interest to spend the money on critical systems for their business. However, they generally have to be dragged kicking and screaming for any sum of money quoted.
>>51691722
If you're talking about small business and medium size private firms, yes.
But if we're talking about huge billion dollar companies with gigantic overdraft accounts that let them spend whatever they want then, no
>>51691709
I know this is bait, but if not, you're the one who should go back to reddit.
Everyone refers to Anime as chinese cartoons, even /a/ had that as a board name several times already.
Please, go back to facebook/reddit and never come back.
>>51691709
>Confirmed for all kinds of jelly
partially correct
I just don't care that much about education
>>51689666
I do something similar. Backside VRM cooling really works but it's not common.
>>51687476
Honestly this is an old problem. Now it's happening quickly, but I've seen lots of long-term damage from heavy air coolers. Warped motherboards and sockets, warped CPUs, in a few cases the torque has caused the lower backplate screws to break through the mobo lacquer.
Heavy, unsupported, air coolers were stupid from the get-go.
>>51691751
Small businesses do it because they might not be able to budget it. Billion dollar corporations do it because they want to have 50.1 billion, not 50.05 billion.
>>51688073
>6 vishera cores at 4.5ghz
Or
>2 skylake cores at 3.7ghz
Which one is better?
Gee, I wonder...
>>51692311
>FX 4xxx gets a 20% performance increase from 3.6 to 3.8ghz
stop posting those retarded slides
>>51692311
Are you seriously comparing CPU performance based solely on clock speed?
>>51692464
>an FX-4100 is the exact same chip as an FX-4300
Reminder this is entirely the third parties' fault. It was probably something like this:
>Old gen CPUs can handle 100 lbs
>Intel rates them at 50 lbs for safety
>Third party cooler manufacturers design their coolers for 80 lbs because the CPUs can handle it
>New CPUs can handle 70 lbs and are still completely fairly rated for 50 lbs
>80 lbs coolers break the 70 lb CPUs
>>51691467
>lelu love
>>51692540
No.
Fx 6300 is 4.5ghz at stock?
Or am I possibly implying it can be overclocked?
>>51692464
Fx4100 != fx4300
>>51692707
>>51692552
AMD had that huge an IPC gain between generations?
>>51687476
>Buying intel after Sandy Bridge
It's like burning your money, sempay
>>51692813
Steamroller massively improved Bulldozer's (highly) lacking IPC.
>>51692813
Yes.
Iirc it was 9%, and they increased efficiency too.
Adding 200mhz didn't hurt either I suppose.
My cock is better than all of these and you are all faggots so suck my cock.
draongdildo man is out.
Currently running a 6700k at stock, why should I bother overclocking it for gaymen? I can understand 2 years down the road when new CPUs outshine it but is there really a point in getting 4.5 out of it at this point in time?
Especially when DX12 puts most of the strain on the GPU in the near future.
>>51693941
You should bother overclocking because It's FREE.
FREE PERFORMANCE, MAN.
>>51693965
Wouldn't it be like driving a Ferrari in a school zone?
>>51693980
What?
>>51694005
School zones are a heavily enforced 25mph.
>>51693980
It's more like donating and not claiming the tax write off.
>>51694034
I still have no idea what you're trying to say here.
What enforcement is there on an unlocked CPU? Fucking crank that multiplier up, man.
>>51693980
No, it would be like driving on a highway and going faster than everyone else, but you could still go even faster.
>>51693980
I overclocked my cpu and couldn't stop in time . rest in peace jeremy , you have gone too soon .
>be Intel
>design new cpu on smaller node
>improve performance and efficiency
>spend a year designing most cost effective of method of delivering cooling.
>neckbeard slaps a shitty cooler on CPU.
>complains when bent
You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
>>51687692
skylake has 20 lanes, haslel had 16
>>51692464
it's not retarded, that actually happens. piledriver is massively bottlenecked until you get above ~4ghz, then it scales linearly with clock speed
>>51694137
>>improve performance and efficiency
Only 3% better performance, skylake actually has a higher TDP
All they had to do was not make the PCB thinner, it was such an excruciatingly simple task to do.
>>51694211
16 lanes of gen 3 pci-express is still a fuck-ton of bandwidth. No single GPU could ever saturate a gen 3 x4 connection much less a gen 3 x16 connection.
>>51694267
>skylake actually has a higher TDP
But does it have better efficiency?
>2015
>buying the mainstream chipset meme
stay pleb, poorfags
>>51694267
>>51694267
Is that not improvement? And why should intel increase the size of the PCB to fufill the wishes of 2% of their margins?
>>51694349
GPUs aren't the reason for more pcie lanes, SSDs (and new memory tech like xpoint) are
>>51689565
>mexico
>mexico
>mexico
>ever
>>51694363
For laptops, sure. Not for desktops though.
>>51694267
>Only 3% better performance,
[citation needed]
>>51694419
>implying he has any choice since the God Emperor finished the wall in 2018
>>51694461
that's not a citation, that's some shitty cpuboss esque website using randomly generated numbers meant only to be a billboard for ads
every single review i've seen has shown skylake to be superior to haslel, i don't see where people are getting the idea that it's worse or whatever
>>51694474
Skylake shows gains of around 10% in muh gaymes going clock to clock with Haslel. More in some games, such as being 17% faster in GTA V.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sx1kLGVAF0
>>51694474
heh
show some benchmarks pro
>>51687476
Why aren't people calling this CPUgate or some gay shit like the always do?
>Skylake
>6% PERFORMANCE INCREASE! BUY TODAY!
A real Intelfag wouldn't buy that. CPUs are going to sit still until someone lights a fire under Intel's ass, again. If you're on a desktop computer (no battery to worry about), you can still use a C2D/C2Q perfectly fine, even for medium amounts of GAYMING. On a laptop, Nehalem/Sandy is even still good, or Haswell for a higher budget (much better battery/iGPU.)
Anything later than Haswell usually just isn't worth it, and is mostly marketing nonsense designed to juice the wallets of unsuspecting Best Buy patrons.
>PC DOES WHAT XDDDD
>BAZINGA!
>>51696198
>Anything later than Sandybridge actually just isn't worth it
fixed
Lets hope broadwell-e changes this.
>>51689796
ref card 1220 mhz at 68 and 20% fan. That seems impossible anon. my tri-x wont do over 1180 at 77 degrees 58% fan and +175 mv.
>>51696242
The power consumption on my i5-2520m laptop is noticeably higher than my Haswell i5 one from 2013, so I didn't take the claim that far. If you don't need more than 8-9 hours, though, then yes, Sandy is still supreme.
>>51696150
Because the social media shiteaters who are INTO ALL THE HIP TECH and spread those epic hashtags don't know what these strange "microchips" are. They still refer to the computer in its case as "the CPU." It has to be easier for them to understand, like a phone that can get bent in their skinny jeans, or a screen with shoddily-applied anti-glare chemicals. The latter, to them, though, is just "SCREEN IS STAINED!" Because "chemicals" too big word for Gronk tiny brain.
>>51694062
Its like having an i7 running at 4k when it could be running at 4.6k senpai,
>>51694508
Its much more relevant for 6600k. Even as someone who has one I wouldn't suggest anyone get an 6700k for gaming at the current prices.
>>51696198
>Anything later than Haswell
Theres only one thing later than Haswell.
>Best Buy patrons
You cant buy anything earlier than a Haswell retail anyway. For regular retail shit i3 and i5 skylake is priced well compared to Haswell. Sandy laptops are like $200-$300 because they're clearance items the price range makes the cpu choice irrelevant in the decision to get one.
>>51691135
I fucking wish. I could actually upgrade from an A10-7870k.
>>51687526
>>51687526
>Using an Electric Screwdriver to install a fucking CPU Cooler
>Installed Satellite TV for several months
>Rigid power driver could fucking screw a 6 inch leg bolt through a 4x4
>Impact Driver could fucking torque the head right off said Leg Bolts
>These fucking faggots are using power drivers to install finky screws onto a power cooler.
Someone should be slapped in the fucking dick.
>>51689565
IIRC, when I got my 3770k, it was roughly the same price as the non-K and the K had higher stock clock frequency. That said, if I'd known then that the Ks didn't properly support virtualization (they're missing either VT-d or VT-x, I forget which), I definitely would have bought the non-K instead even if it had been slightly more expensive and had a lower stock speed.
With the Skylakes, that seems to have changed though. From what I've seen the Skylake Ks support both VT-d and VT-x.
Does this mean I should use watercooling if I want to get Skylake?
>>51691453
Which ones are bad? The noctua ones?
>>51696258
Never said reference cooler anon, I said reference pcb.
>pre-skylake
>no report of bent cpus other than the occasional moron dancing dancing tango with the battlestation while xboxhueg tower-cooler is mounted (leverage!)
>intel introduces skylake
>makes substrate 50% thinner
>post-skylake
>countless reports of bent cpus
>cooler-makers in emergency-mode
GEE, WONDER WHY!?
>>51691562
Broadwell-e is shitty, only 10 core that might be worth kek
ITT: gaymers are getting the newest and the memest CPUs to play gaymes for 15 year olds
kill yourselves, dipshits
>>51687476
Serves them right for upgrading in the first place and going for the shitty ddr4 that is still awful, instead of buying older gens.
I see retards with like ivy bridge or even haswell upgrading. These people don't know what the fuck they are doing.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Luftkuehlung-Hardware-217993/News/Skylakegate-Kuehler-zerstoeren-Sockel-1151-CPUs-1179237/
>still nothing from be quiet!
should i order one of their coolers, anyway?
I will always buy Intel™ because I only play games with Intel Inside™. Intel also pioneers innovative new technologies like Hyper Threading Technology™, Intel Rapid Start Technology™ and the highest quality chipsets to ever grace motherboards.
When I boot up with a brand new Intel™ i7™ with the latest Z chipset, I can enjoy the games the way they where meant to be with Intel Inside™. Intel™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth experience with its Hyper Threading Technology™.
Intel i5™ is also very power efficient. A processor is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a processor. Which is why Intel™ puts gamers first by ensuring that their gaming experience is of the highest quality while looking out for gamers by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AMD processor at all. I tried once, it caused so much heat that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Intel™ also pioneered how useless MORE CORES is with the i™ series processors. Years ago, everyone thought MORE CORES were the future. Now, Intel™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Intel™ with its powerful IPC. MORE CORES will never be part of Intel's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AMD shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Intel Inside™. Intel™ is the only real way to play games. We have seen recently that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Intel C++ Compiler. He is probably too poor to afford the Intel Inside™ experience and can not afford to play any games.
Don't be a poor gamer with bad chipsets and a huge power bills. Play games with Intel Inside™
>>51693777
SEVERELY UNDERRATED POST HOLY SHIT
>>51687476
Another AMD shill thread. Those chips are defects or the coolers people buy are screwed on to tight.
>>51687610
>cheapest Haswell-E
Nice oxymoron.
The fucking 8 cores start at $799 bare-minimum.
>bought this thing for my old core 2 duo 4500
>it had shitty plastic pin thing to mount by standard
>if you moved your pc it had decent chance of moving and fucking up the connection between IHS and radiator
>bought retention kit (few screws, backplate and 2 small pieces of metal to hold thing togheter
>mounting this bitch properly takes good hour to do with mobo on desk
>now im using it on my 2500k
wonder if it would work with 2011 socket
>>51698474
The 8 cores aren't the cheapest Haswell-E though, the 6-core is.
>>51687628
Just a shill-made article to help hype up AMD ZEN.
>>51689307
All day/
>>51694508
Since 6600k = 4790k
If I get a 6600 and not overclock it will I get the same setting as a 6600k non overclocked?
>>51699054
oops i meant performance
>>51699294
Thanks finally able to assemble a pc that's par with what I spent 7-8 years ago
>not falling for the g3258 superclocked meme
gayman fags
>>51699509
Wow, what a trash chip. Can't even do 4.5 at 1.35v.
You should have seriously considered returning that, I don't care how capitalistically immoral it is.
When I buy one, i'm expecting 4.7 @ 1.35v MINIMUM. This is a dual-core chip. I want my motherfucking single threaded performance.
>>51699567
Except it's overclocked on a B85 motherboard and I didn't even bother to manually overclock it. Everything is done automatically by the uefi.
>>51699567
>returns CPU because it doesn't overclock well
it's called silicon lottery for a reason
>>51699605
Ah, that makes a bit more sense then.
Still, you should try to fiddle with it a bit yourself and either raise clocks or reduce voltage to see how far you can go.
>>51699624
Oh, we're gonna play that game huh?
What if you got a 4690k that, after a night of fucking around with, found that it can't even break 4.0 GHz with 1.35v.
As in, it literally runs into a voltage wall just 100 MHz higher than turbo clock.
As unlikely it may be for a chip to be that bad, it's still technically within spec.
However, you payed Intel more specifically so you can push this chip beyond it's stock spec.
Would you actually be OKAY with that just because "Muh Silicon Lottery"?
I'd prefer not to get jewed and play the rules the way I CAN, not the way they SHOULD, thanks.
>>51699509
Right until it slams into software that really does need more threads eh? Remember: your OS is now resoruce free.
>>51699719
Derp *not resource free.
Actually thinknig about it that is an area people overlook - having your gay sex with hats on tabs open along with all the other shit people like to use strains cpu resources. Most vidya reviews are done on near-naked systems so additional cpu overhead more cores can provide is often overlooked (makes the 8350 in particular a very tasty chip - its virtually impossible to cripple normal usage even with vidya running).
>>51699719
lawl, speaking of gayman fags
not everybody needs quad core cpus to browse the internet, play cs:go and watch porn in 2k.
g3258 is super cheap where I live (around $20) and it serves me well.
>>51699783
Sure, I don't question it for el cheapo builds. /g/ praised it from the high heavens when it was released as a i7 killer and the chip is nothing of the sort - for overal gaymen needs I would still prefer an i3 if only because you won't get fucked by those few games that really do not like dual core systems.
Naturally if you do any cpu intensive workloads that are not vidya the pentium is pretty much dead on arrival.
