>Nearing 2016
>not using a macbook
So what's the excuse, class? Let's hear it, one by one please, raise your hand if you wanna spea... yes, you anon, tell us.
I have a desktop pc (windows) and a tablet. I'm not a student, so why would I need a laptop?
>>51684989
I prefer my t420 meme. I've had macs in the past (including a 17" unibody) but I'd rather have my $175 laptop that I can use for maybe another 8 years before it becomes unusable in everyday tasks such as YouTube and web browsing, than a $1000+ machine that will probably break within 3 years.
>>51684989
My thinkpad was $350 and Mint is a free OS that never crashes
BAAAAAIIIIIITTTTTT
>>51684989
>2000 dollar laptop is more reliable than a shitty 300 dollar HP trainwreck!11
Is there any data on Microsoft's devices?
>$1000-$3000 devices last longer than $250 wall-mart acer devices.
Yeah no shit
>>51685195
>>51685243
butthurt!
and you can get an air is less than a grand
>>51684989
Considering apple drop support for their own products relatively quickly I'm not surprised they are deemed reliable.
>>51685290
> not holding up to old, shitty, deprecated, outdated standards
>bad
>>51685315
/g/ likes old stuff, chickpeds and stuff, it's because /g/ is old
>>51684989
>consumer reports
>consumer
>>51685336
I absolutely agree, /g/ is holding the industry back with their granpa "get out of my lawn I want the things to reamin as they are forever" mentality
>>51684989
Thinkpads are clearly the most reliable laptops.
I'd rather get a REAL computer for REAL work, like playing games and overclocking.
>>51685377
>/g/ controls the industry
>>51685272
>buy 4 laptops that all have better specs than Apple shit
>throw one in the fucking trash and start using a new one every time one breaks
And I'd still save money.
>>51685410
Here's that response you wanted
>>51684989
I am seriously thinking about getting an MBA just for test purposes. I only use light IDE and NEVER play any games on PC. My thinkpad x201 is like 80oC on idle and I am done with his shit anyway.
So.. is it worth to pull the trigger?
>>51685457
>>buy 4 laptops that all have better specs than Apple shit
But it's impossible
you can't even get a 16:10 display in a non-apple laptop these days
>>51684989
overpriced
apple drops support on all of their devices quickly
shit window management
no games
i don't need a laptop
my pc outperforms most crapintosh
>>51685410
>playing games
>REAL work
are you being a retard2 on purpose
>>51685272
getting an air is like buying a glorified ipad
The macbook air could be a good laptop if it came pre-installed with windows. It has a pretty decent batterry life.
>>51685364
The average user won't even know the difference between a Chromebook and a Mac book, I mean they use both to browse Facebook and Pinterest.
>>51685523
Still better than the ipad pro at least
>>51685512
Well playing games is a legit use of computers, get over it, some people don't use computers for the same stuff as you do, big deal
>>51684989
>apple insider claims apple is best laptop
I'll use a Mac if I want to, I just use my laptop for a lot and I want to be able to run anything on it without parallels or winetricks. That's why I dual boot windows and ubuntu.
>>51685527
I do though.
Easily the best laptop I've ever owned.
>>51685644
Have you been able to install windows on it yet?
>>51685644
wow bro, this is old, show me a pic of the machine
>>51684989
So what do you guys think about buying a macbook (maybe a used one?) and installing a Linux based distro like xubuntu on it? Apple laptops are pretty sleek and handy, with the flexibility of a Linux based distro, they'll make pretty good daily drivers?
>>51685636
You ever wonder why the ISS doesn't use "premium" fagbooks? Pic related is why.
>>51685656
No. I can't think of any reason why I'd want to install Windows outside of a VM or gaming PC.
>>51685662
That's just a VM
Because I don't want to set my house on fire.
>>51684989
I'm poor and even if I wasn't I literally see no reason to why I'd get a laptop at that price range.
I used MBP in my school back in 2010/2011 btw.
I'm going to install OSX on my Elitebook 8470p
Just the same thing
>>51685719
so 5 years ago, yes? that's a long time ago, especially in Technology time, the single domain where everything advances fast.
>>51685707
You still have the same wallpaper bro, BTW thanks for sharing I set it as my phone wallpaper, looks good
>>51685686
nice maymay xD
> pic related is the new horizons team cheering while they flyby fucking Pluto.
>>51684989
I'm poor, but my $100 Open BSD laptop is better.
>>51685499
Are you fucking idiot
Display diesn equal better computer
I can put my raspberry pi on 4k 42" Tv and by your standards it would be better than mac
>>51685825
Gotta make them presentations look sleek anon
>>51685825
They have anti-gravitational generators onboard the ISS now?
>>51685783
>everything advances fast
>bios literally in use for 30 years
>>51685861
Doesnt*
Damn it
>>51684989
>blatant paid promotion
>valid survey
Media outlets suck Apple cock to avoid being blacklisted to WWDC and Keynotes. Apple is the definition of hypocrisy and greed.
I have computers from HP running since 2005 and still with their original parts. A 3 year old laptop from HP that is running just like day 1.
Meanwhile people on Macbooks suffering from dead pixels, keyboard pasted on display and inflating batteries underneath the trackpad.
The definition of reliable according to Apple is a fucking joke.
>>51685861
Display is one of the most important parts of a laptop
kek
>muh gaymen processor and vidya card is all I care about xDD
>>51685825
>meanwhile there are 0 Macs in the control room
>>51685895
They all run linux there
literally no gaymen baby os
>>51685792
Yes it's because it's the best wallpaper I've mashed together.
You're welcome as well.
>>51685895
Here's CERN.
>>51685893
You seem to forget what i compared your logic to
>>51684989
It's American.
I don't want to be paying for NSA equipment and manpower.
>>51685944
We're talking about laptops, not single board computers, and televisions often make awful computer displays. Your comparison is completely retarded.
>>51685938
They get them for free
>>51685924
LOL they don't have time to deal with Linix's gay shit. Most control rooms use Win XP or Win 7.
>>51685938
That's obviously some conference room or something
>>51685938
CERN is a waste of government money imho. They haven't done jack shit to advance humanity.
>>51686058
>No scientist would ever use OS X
>Only hipsters living in San Fransisco use OS X
>>51685938
damn you're stupid miles.
>>51685377
No.
They simply want companies to design things in a way so they dont break or become useless. Thats a perfectly reasonable idea, and it should be even more valid if you're paying a grand for something with 300$ worth
>>51686073
Lazy bait.
>>51686037
>capcom
>>51685468
>80C
wut
My x200 is idling at 36C here (16C above ambient). You need to repaste that shit dude
>>51686083
>RHEL
I thought CERN used and developed Scientific Linux.
>>51686114
annnnnnd?
>>51686073
So is every other experiment to detect dark matter, gravity waves and multi-verse theory.
In the end, the equations fall apart without an instigator, a creator. Whenever I see these documentaries on cosmology and how they make stupid excuses when faced with tough questions about what have they proved and why their predictions about inflation and matter have all been proven wrong, they got literally nothing.
Billions of dollars and monopoly over scientific knowledge and still they can't prove that the Universe can exist without God.
>>51686114
>UNIX
>>51686151
Yes, the basis of every decent, sane, commonly used OS.
>people don't honestly think that Apple gave those to NASA in the same way they gave free music production setups to producers to make them think that only macs were capable of recording music
lol, how naive.
>>51685981
And your logic by saying laptop displays are the most important is dumb
Is anybody surprised by that? People who spend $1500 on a windows laptops are morons
>>51686168
and OS X is literally 100% POSIX compliant, I don't think even Linux is at 100%
>>51686131
>Billions of dollars and monopoly over scientific knowledge and still they can't prove that the Universe can exist without God.
They don't have to because the existence of a god is as ridiculous as proving our creator is not a giant flying spaghetti monster (which is more likely than the christian god btw).
There is no single creator you dipshit, it's way more likely we came out of multiple systems or creators.
>>51686223
not valid in this day and age, get with the times granpa
> not using thinkpad
>>51686177
It isn't, it's one of many important things.
but on a non-apple laptop you can't even get a 16:10 display wtf
Chromebook Pixel
>>51686232
>>>/reddit/
>>51686110
I bought new termopads, new cooling, new radiator. Now I just get a new notebook.
I mean shit, man's gotta work not worry about pc going nuts.
>>51686131
>So is every other experiment to detect dark matter
There's no debate about whether or not dark matter exists though. We can see it bending light where there is apparently nothing. The debate is WHAT dark matter is.
>gravity waves
Based on what you just wrote before this, it's pretty obvious you don't understand how weak gravity is and how insanely hard that makes detecting gravity waves.
>multi-verse theory.
That's an interpretation of wave function collapse. It's not really something you can falsify so it's outside the realm of science.
>>51686168
lol DOS took a giant shit all over UNIX. If DOS was such a piece of shit then why does NASA use DOS-derived OSs like Win XP on their chinkpads instead of homOS X?
>>51686310
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-source-insider/2013/05/international-space-station-adopts-debian-linux-drop-windows-red-hat-into-airlock.html
>>51686232
This old argument is lame and no longer viable counter considering how cornered these theoretical physicists and cosmologists have become.
They are pulling things out of their ass, claiming the existence of another set of 24 sub-atomic particles with the opposite charge to the point even their own peers are mocking them for being complacent and out of touch with reality.
Religious theory of existence has stood the test of time and remains consistent. Meanwhile scientist revise their numbers every week and can't seem to reconcile the standard model. Forget answering the big questions like origin of matter and life, this is an embarrassment.
There is no way cosmology can recover from this spectacular failure.
>>51686307
There is no such thing as dark matter and dark energy. Just look at how ridiculous science has become that they are relying on invisible and undetectable energies that contour and manipulate the universe... which sounds something like an omnipotent being messing with mankind.
>>51686334
He's memeing.
>>51685101
Sweet. Were can we get $350 thinkpads too?
>>51686354
I honestly cannot tell
>>51686352
>Just look at how ridiculous science has become that they are relying on invisible and undetectable energies that contour and manipulate the universe...
Satire
>>51686334
Linux≠Unix you fucking moron.
>>51686438
doesn't matter, both are irrelevant and obsolete.
>>51686279
actually there is, use the magic called Google
>>51686438
heh
nice meme kid
>>51686352
>They are pulling things out of their ass, claiming the existence of another set of 24 sub-atomic particles with the opposite charge to the point even their own peers are mocking them for being complacent and out of touch with reality.
wow anon, I really hope you're pretending to be retarded.
>Religious theory of existence has stood the test of time and remains consistent. Meanwhile scientist revise their numbers every week and can't seem to reconcile the standard model. Forget answering the big questions like origin of matter and life, this is an embarrassment.
Religious theory is based on FAITH. Like faith that marry was not a fucking whore who forced joseph to raise a bastard while pretending she never got her twat rammed by jamal.
Just accept it when we need an actual answer we turn to science not religion. Religion is a joke founded by the fear of the unknown and the human imagination. When smallpox broke out we turned to scientists for the vaccine not priests. When we needed something to quickly rekt nip's shit we turned to scientists not priests.
Science may get things wrong but it's able to correct itself and move one. The same can't be said for religion. Everything is wrong in the beginning and stays that way for centuries.
>>51686531
name a model that's currently in production
>>51686564
Religion and philosophy bring forward theories, science becomes to tool for discovery to find out if they are true. By the method of elimination, every other scientific theory has left us with a dead end, so by default the religious and philosophical point of view becomes more valid because it does provide a beginning and an end of everything including origin of life.
We did not evolve from apes, I refuse to believe this ridiculous assumption. Its not my fault if christian clergymen have misguided people into thinking prayers are a replacement for vaccines and medicine, prayer and other rituals are symbolic and spiritual in nature, they have no real world applications.
You need to filter out the mysticism which has been embedded by humans to see what exactly God wanted to convey to us in a logical manner.
>>51684989
Cause i need a tool, not a fancy toy.
>>51685272
>and you can get an air is less than a grand
And you can get a dankpad for less than a quarter of a grand.
>more reliable != best
They also rank the Yoga 3 above the Air
>>51686216
>POSIX
sauce?
>>51686664
>Religion and philosophy bring forward theories, science becomes to tool for discovery to find out if they are true. By the method of elimination, every other scientific theory has left us with a dead end, so by default the religious and philosophical point of view becomes more valid because it does provide a beginning and an end of everything including origin of life.
Which again is based solely on faith which cannot be trusted. Prove to me right now with scientific evidence that marry was NOT a whore and jesus NOT a bastard. Go ahead, I'm sure you have tons of it to post.
>We did not evolve from apes, I refuse to believe this ridiculous assumption. Its not my fault if christian clergymen have misguided people into thinking prayers are a replacement for vaccines and medicine, prayer and other rituals are symbolic and spiritual in nature, they have no real world applications.
We descended from a common ancestor you moron, is reading books that much of a challenge to you? Prayers are nothing. When you pray you talk to yourself, that's about it.
>You need to filter out the mysticism which has been embedded by humans to see what exactly God wanted to convey to us in a logical manner.
There is no god to convey anything. There never was one, it was all just pretend. Bring me scientific proof that the cock sucker exists.
>Protip: you can't
>>51684989
I have a MBP, a linux netbook which I don't use anymore but is still functional, and a new PC desktop.
Am I the master race?
>>51686818
Prove to me you were NOT a whore and you NOT a bastard. Go ahead, I'm sure you have tons of it to post. Anything based solely on faith which cannot be trusted.
>>51684989
>AMD GPU
No CUDA support == no buying on my side
>>51686791
>A Company that produces only a premium line of computers.
>Versus a company that produces every type of line.
I'd like to see a comparison of HP Elitebooks, Dell XPS, Latitude and Precision and Lenovo Thinkpads and highend ideapads like the yoga in the same chart as apple.
Basically: Get a premium computer. Even if it's an old computer you'll still get more value out of it than if you had bought a consumer series shitpile or a shiny mac that throttles within 5 minutes of usagel
>>51686818
Bring me scientific proof dark matter and dark energy. Bring me scientific proof of how the first complex molecule of life came into being. Bring me scientific proof of how everything appeared out of nothing, how matter just sprang out of a singularity.
You can't because some things are beyond the human capacity to understand. Our life span is too short to come up with all the answers.
The difference is that I have the humility to acknowledge that there are things that we are not meant to understand, you on the other hand are delusional.
>>51686852
You sound butthurt. Did a priest fuck you in the bum without permission?
>>51686791
>acer has less failures than /g/s beloved asus
kek
>>51686856
Why would applel want cuda? They literally invented opencl
>>51686881
>The difference is that I have the humility to acknowledge that there are things that we are not meant to understand, you on the other hand are delusional.
Yet you are the same faggot claiming god exists. wew lad
Macs are not zef
>>51686883
Likewise. were you raped by your uncle? You sound mean and frustrated. You can beat your chest all you want, religion and God are here to stay.
>>51684989
> Nearing 2016 and doesn't build your own computer?
>>51686922
Because OpenCL is a nightmare to use
>>51686925
Read my post again you dickhead. Considering that most scientific theories have lead to a dead end, the existence of God seems more plausible now than ever before.
Stop putting words into my mouth.
>>51684989
Yeah and I bet they are factoring in all laptops, including all of the budget pos laptops designed to only last a couple years at most. aka black friday $250 laptops or whatever. So probably not a fair judgement.
This is being posted from my mid-2015 rMBP too fyi.
>>51686945
This
This is the zef thing to do
>>51686927
>>51686945
You can build your own laptops without turning them into a 100 pound abomination of wires and shitty casing?
>>51686988
I have my phone why would i need a laptop?
>>51687011
You don't
>>51684989
Why wasting my money on such a shit?
We are in 2015, we have internet access to compare things.
Your shit is just a little bit more powerful than a $5 Raspberry Pi Zero!
And this shit will be obsolete much more quickly than it.
Sincerely macbook is just a glued computer with a fisher price OS.
>>51686935
>You can beat your chest all you want, religion and God are here to stay.
Sure thing pal, whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>51686223
What's funny about this is that the XPS15 costs about the same or more as the 15" macbook pro.
>>51687029
why is that nearly every wallpaper looks great on homosex?
>>51686881
You know the reason we call them 'dark' is because its something elusive.
We know through indirect observations that these things are there, yet we cannot directly measure them, hence the 'dark' part.
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2006/aug/HQ_06297_CHANDRA_Dark_Matter.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0_vWDfJwQ
and just for you
https://youtu.be/ZcV25N37-C4?t=24s
>>51686949
what ?
just what the fuck are you talking about ?
>science coming to a dead end
So.. no one around the world is getting any more PhD's right ?
> the existence of God seems more plausible now than ever before.
Of course the one true god just happens to be the one YOU believe in..
>>51686659
Not the same guy, but who the fuck cares about a screen sized perfectly to 16:10?
>>51687141
>>>http://www.villagehatshop.com/category/72/1/fedoras.html
>>51684989
Because I got a free t400 from work for personal use, and I already have a desktop.
>>51687183
you seem upset that I suggest Jesus/Allah isn't the path to salvation and that instead you should pray to the god under the mountain.
>Be in high school ~4 years ago
>Buy my own windows laptop
>Show it to a friend for some reason
>"Oh, that's nice. I would rather get a mac because the keyboard lights up."
>>51687256
>ex wanted a macbook
>show her around other laptops that were just as good or better
>they cost less too
She was set on the macbook, all that stuff doesn't matter. Most of the appeal of apple products is not the specs, but rather that its an apple product.
It doesn't matter if its some 1:1 clone that Lenovo made, if its not an apple product it doesn't matter.
People want to fit in/be part of that special club
And honestly, there is no point in trying to change their minds, so what if they save $400 if they won't be nearly as happy with that other laptop.
Just let them buy what they think will make them happy.
>>51685080
>break within 3 years
tfw I've owned a MBP for the last 8 years and not a single day has the mf let me down.
>>51686795
here you crippled retard bfy(dot)tw/37qs
>>51686899
This was a *user* survey
People already think very highly of apple
>Oh no my apple product isn't working, I must be doing something wrong!
>My laptop is so fucking slow, fucking windows!
I don't need a Macbook for Chemical Engineering, faggot.
>>51687351
Not him but they're right. Windows is a pile of trash. Please don't act like it's defenseable. The faster it dies the better consumer computing will become. Fucking OS X tiger and Linux were doing shit in 2005 that Windows 10 barely gets right.
>>51687569
It may be trash but it's the best we can currently do. It shits all over homos x. I'm sorry to tell you this anon but not all of us guys a fucking faggots like you. We don't give a shit about "muh aesthetics" as long as the fucking OS actually works.
>>51686791
>tfw my 2760qm asus laptop is still fully functional
People are gorgetting that less market share means less product failures
>>51687627
But Windows doesn't work.
>>51687677
Forgetting*
HTPC/Media Server: Windows 10
Laptop: OS X El Capitan
Phone: Android Marshmallow
>>51687677
...
percents are relative numbers
Personally I would like to see the same graph broken down by how much people paid for their laptops.
Like what percent of issues from each manufacter come from which price points ?
Maybe then we might be able to see that shitty cheap laptops are the ones that break down the most Or that price has nothing to do with quality and the manufacturer sucks.
In my experience, Apple has not been a reliable laptop manufacturer. After 2 years of use, my 2009 Macbook Pro managed to have a failing hard disk controller. That is, it was not the easily replaceable hard drive itself that had failed, but the motherboard, which was communicating with it. I know for certain that the problem was hardware related, because the problem persisted after switching hard drives, and after reinstalling the operating system.
Beyond this, I have found that the chassis was easily dented, the screen easily cracked, and the CPU, easy to overheat. A number of these problems have yet to be addressed in subsequent revisions of the Macbook Pro.
While no laptop I have owned has been perfect, none have had as many problems in such a short amount of time as Apple. The one thing I could reasonably give them credit for is magsafe, as it prevents a problem where the laptop being knocked over or the cord being tripped on causes the port on the inside of the laptop to become knocked loose, or damaged in a similar manner. However, this benefit is very easily overshadowed by the fact that the cords themselves are designed very poorly, leading to many of them wearing away the shielding very quickly. Beyond this, the cords are expensive to replace. If we take the difference in costs between buying one power cord which will presumably be used for the entire life of the laptop, versus the more expensive magsafe (which one may end up purchasing twice over the course of the laptop's natural life), and divide by the probability of destroying a laptop by tripping over the cord, we may very well end up with it being cheaper to buy a replacement laptop than to use magsafe.
I use a Surface Pro 2 which is superior to the MacBook. It's a 2 in 1 which means it converts into a tablet. Built in digitizers allow me to use a Stylus to do art and design while it rejects my palm
>>51684989
Around 2005 I bought an iPod and extended warranty. Two days after the warranty expired, it died.
Also iTunes was a clunky hunk of shit, and I'm not a graphic artist so I never felt the need to own one.
When I was young and impressionable, macbooks (ibooks) weren't really a big deal yet. Most college kids used whatever.
So it never got ingrained in my head that I had to own an Apple computer to show everyone I wasn't poor. Nowadays I just can't stand their shallow garbage keyboards that the entire industry seems to be adopting.
>>51684989
I like having lots of usb ports and an ethernet port.
>>51686872
>a shiny mac that throttles within 5 minutes of usagel
Or you could get a shiny Mac that doesn't throttle within 5 minutes. 99% of them don't in normal usage.
>>51684989
macbooks are a joke
as i sit here, on one, typing away, i cannot explain how much i look forward to getting rid of it.
I want to be able to use my laptop everywhere.
Pic related, buddy of mine at my day job.
>>51688417
i wonder if HDDs can be used in space
Macs are shit with updates and clean installs. somehow bricking my mac while updating to Yosemite, installing the wrong browser extension could brick safari with no way of deleting it. Macfags pride them selves with reliability but I've experienced the complete opposite and when things do go Wong your fucked with no way of fixing cause its so locked down
>>51688437
Sure, It doesn't really change much
>>51684989
I went with an XPS 13
However, I might buy a MBA just for ios crap
>>51684989
I wonder what they constitute as a failure.
>reinstalling OS
>replacing or upgrading a part
>opening it up and looking inside
>paying significantly less money
>knowing how it works
This is the only reason I bought a mac. I have to get the fucking charger replaced every 6 months, but the device itself is solid.
Even after a year and a half the hinges are still as strong as on day one, and that's my biggest per peeve about laptops.
This all said, there are a million reasons these things are fucking shit and you should keep clear, from the hardware specs, cooling, and apple made software, it's just shit.
But after I had a machine in for repairs for a month only for the shits to finally realize they got an email on the first day saying the device was no longer supported, only acknowledging this after I fucking called all the distributors for them, I was fucking sick of it. I had a refund on the last laptop, but I could only spend it in one shop.
An Air was the only choice. Most repairable macbook around, no glue and shit.
>>51685527
If by that you mean it had driver support in windows then yes.
If not you're just lazy.
>>51687627
>It shits all over homos x.
You're serious aren't you?
>I'm sorry to tell you this anon but not all of us guys a fucking faggots like you. We don't give a shit about "muh aesthetics" as long as the fucking OS actually works.
Then why the fuck are you using a fundamentally broken OS?
>>51688521
Glued batteries are annoying but they're not very hard to actually remove.
What is a good temperature monitoring program for OS X?
>>51688560
I don't want to risk ripping a lithium cell when fixing a computer.
Plus, I don't buy glued stuff by principle.
I'd rather 50 proprietary screws than a dob of glue.
>>51688601
Well if you ever do work with a glued battery, just use a credit card or something similar. Also lots and lots of pure alcohol.
>>51688645
>pure alcohol
I want to buy a gallon drum of this stuff.
I am become isopropyl, melter of shit.
Joking aside, thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
>mfw my 2013 laptopt with shitty specs is still faster and more reliable than any Windows or ParrotFucker OS
>>51688677
>Keeping the dock visible
Literally why?
>>51684989
Waiting for skylake
>>51688692
I don't even notice it's here anymore
>>51688744
>literally waiting for a meme
>>51688748
Try using it hidden. It's not like the 13" has much room to begin with.
>>51688692
because macs are glorious, is what steve would have wanted , to be in a constant state of reminder that you are using such a great OS
>>51688761
Gonna ditch my thinkpad x301 for one. Macbooks are really the best, OSX is comfy for development. Sorry you're poor
>>51688772
Literally why I keep my dock visible.
>>51684989
I don't have a laptop, nor do I want/need one.
>>51688677
kek'd hard
somebody got homOSeXed by apple into a full blown stockholm syndrome
http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-unequivocally-better-than-os-x-on-apples-new-macbook/
>>51688797
wow that os is ooooooold
I have a t420.
>>51688772
>>51688797
looks like shit tbqhfam
>>51684989
>by AppleInsider Staff
Yes goy, put our computers at the top! You don't want to be on our blacklist, do you?
>>51684989
MacBooks are great and all but I really love my Latitude XT2. I just popped an mSATA SSD in it today, gave it a fresh OpenBSD 5.8 install. With this I get that aluminium case, a TrackPoint, and a tablet. I've got a USB3 ExpressCard adapter installed too. Plus at the end of the day I just pace it on the dock and it's charging and connected to my TV
>>51688837
And it's STILL more usable than Windows 10
>>51688902
Tim C.uck would like to have a word with you.
>>51688897
>How OS X looks matters more than how it works
If you're using Windows as your main OS then you really have no place to talk about what is and isn't a fisherprice OS.
>>51688925
Are you really going to try and argue that Windows is better than any Unix-like? You can't even mount ext4
>>51688971
wrong
http://www.ext2fsd.com/
>>51688947
>muh babbys first Linux
I like GNOME 3 and that Apple is making OS X look more like it.
>>51689031
>I like GNOME 3
So you aren't a winfag, you just don't know what you're doing.
Got it.
>>51689011
So at this rate you'll be able to mount btfs volumes in 2024. Nice.
I'm pretty poor currently, planning on buying one after I save up for a bit.
>>51684989
But Mrs. Edanedalneade, I can't afford a Macbook.
>ooh, class; did you hear? He can't afford one!
>let's buy anon a macbook, class! Come on, one by one, put $20000 in the basket. Come on.
>here, anon
>>51684989
Body's gains
Kek, I wanted to say vidya gaims but autocorrect choose that, leaving it there.
>>51684989
>I'm straight
>I'm not tech illiterate
>If i own a device, it's mine, not the manufacturer's
>>51689219
>I'm not tech illiterate
OS X is "Unix". It's only as stupid as the user.
>If i own a device, it's mine, not the manufacturer's
What are you even talking about?
>>51689229
OSX is basically unix forked long ago and filled with bullsbit and botnet-tised since.
I prefer to decide myself what i can and can't do instead of trusting this to the manufacturer.
Also, if i pay $1200 i want $1200 worth of hardware, not $500 worth of hardware and the fucking bomb inside the device
>>51689329
>OSX is basically unix forked long ago
Not at all.
>filled with bullsbit and botnet-tised since.
You can't complain about botnets if you're using an x86 system, especially an Intel x86 system.
That being said, the "bullsbit" can be ignored. Hell, you can even just boot straight Darwin if you want.
>Also, if i pay $1200 i want $1200 worth of hardware
You mean $1200 worth of specs. You don't care if the keyboard flexes, if the screen has a shitty gamut, if the speakers are quiet and tinny, or anything like that. It's 2015. Even a T60 can fill most people's needs.
>not $500 worth of hardware and the fucking bomb inside the device
Love the "a few Macs exploded in 2004 so all Macs explode" meme.
I'm poor
>Apple products are gud
let go to their own website...
Shit OS and overpriced.
>>51689446
The chargers are pretty shit, but people who take care of their stuff won't have an issue.
>>51684989
MBP 2008 here keeping it reliable and up to date
>>51689475
Because for $80 you want a power cord that you have to pamper like it is a 1 day old baby.
>>51689446
half true. the cable sheaths are shit and you must shrink wrap the charger/magsafe connections for any durability.
but still, it's a nice charger
http://www.righto.com/2015/11/macbook-charger-teardown-surprising.html
>>51689507
Literally all you need to do is wrap the cord up with the provided prongs. and not bend the shit out of it. Apple really should put some kind of rib or sleeve on it though.
>>51689516
>you have to modify a power cord just so it doesn't fall apart
>costs you $80 before modification
>it's good
>>51689381
In that case i'll just go for
>i don't want to be found dead near a mac
>i'm still straight
Also with "$1200 hardware" i also mean durable stuff.
I have an asus (n550 jk with 1tb hdd added) that costs exactly that and it's based apart from the shitty removable device boot (i developed a workaround though).
To the people who say that Apple cords are fine as long as you don't treat them badly: you are fucking nuts and just plain stupid. Half the people I know own a mac or iPhone and each of them has lightning cables and chargers that look exactly like the picture. I've never actually seen one in decent shape before. If your cable lasts less than a year for an average person then you failed at product design. If there is some tiny minority that is so diligent that they manager to have a pristine cable for 10 years that is fucking irrelevant. Might as well claim a car has a 5 star safety rating so long as it doesn't get hit by anything.
>>51689550
This
>>51686223
tell me more about how you used to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow. and how good benny goodman was in person. and how you used to be in pictures.
>>51689624
It's fine to hate Macs, it's not fine to spread misinformation of any kind however.
There's plenty of issues with both Mac hardware and OS X and only one poster has touched on them ITT.
>>51689636
>To the people who say that Apple cords are fine as long as you don't treat them badly: you are fucking nuts and just plain stupid. Half the people I know
Ancidotal evidence isn't evidence at all, especially when you're talking about normies who treat their devices like shit
>That person who throws their $1000+ laptop on the floor of their car with dirt and books piled on it
>Those people who manage to break their every few months
>Those people who run off the battery when they have a charger right next to them and only charge their phone/laptop when it's almost dead
It makes no sense to talk about people who treat their expensive devices like shit.
>>51685080
i found a macbook in a dump and it worked
>>51688971
ill mount your mom, dude.
>>51689636
2 years now, it's the one that came with my rmbp
>>51689794
+it's always on the floor and I often roll over it with my chair
Bought my MBP for the connectivity options. Since Intel is refusing to support firewirem which is one of the more reliable ways to connect an audio interface for recording, I went for it. There is alot less issues when working with audio on a Mac than on a PC, in my experience. it just works.
>>51685457
But in exchange you get shit UX
Windows is for getting shit done.
Mac is for people that want to brag on the internet.
>>51688971
What's wrong with using ntfs outside of your OS drive? Both the hdds in my laptop are formatted that way, and the only time they ever need a defrag is when I move seriously large amounts of files around. My media storage (music, videos, etc) has never needed a defrag regardless of what I throw at it, my programs drive takes a defrag every month or so to drop the 3% its picked up
>>51684989
because i do more than browse facebook
>>51684989
the three broken ones i orderd for ~$70 total haven't arrived yet..
>>51684989
Asus and Dell surpassed them with Ultrabooks.
>>51690023
oh shit im on the wrong website
>>51685290
>Latest OSX runs on everything they've made since 2007 and even that's only because they now demand both a 64 bit CPU and 64 bit EFI
>Latest iOS runs on all iPhones from 4S (2011) onward and iPads from the 2 (also 2011) onwards
Yeah... That to me sounds like pretty good support and I'm pretty sure the Samsung Galaxy S2, HTC Desire S and Nokia N9 from the same year as the oldest still supported iPhone are still totally supported with software updates.
>>51684989
I have an MBA. It's okay. It's plenty fast, doesn't throttle (the i5 in mine mostly runs at ~2.2GHz when doing shit). Gets hot as fuck when doing anything intensive at all, cooling on this thing is shit.
mostly boot Windows, I generally only boot to OSX when battery life is an issue (thing lasts forever in OSX, and dies really quickly in Windows)
>>51688521
>An Air was the only choice. Most repairable macbook around, no glue and shit.
is that true?
>>51688677
apple wasn't always like this with laptops
brother of mine gave me his old G3 iBook from 2001 (the white dual-USB one)
most components were user replaceable -- battery, wifi card, one of the RAM banks (max 512MB + the 128MB on the board, so 640MB RAM), keyboard -- everything but the damn hard-drive (where you literally had to strip the entire machine down to replace it, would still have it if I could have put in a bigger drive, that 10GB was miserably small)
>>51685561
I have a thoughts.
>ipad pro
"pro" means professional, correct? Unless apple has their own patented definition for that word, this has lead me to believe that a particular ipad is considered "professional". "Professional". Professional what, exactly? I'll admit, I do not know the specs of any of the ipads and I don't care at all about tablets, but what does apple consider professional in relation to an ipad? What do users? I see them sometimes utilized in cash register settings which seems hassle free, but a cashier is not usually considered a professional. Thoughts? Shills welcome!
>>51690086
>300
>>51690558
How is a cashier not considered a professional? Do you even know what professional means?
>>51690599
Simple Definition of professional
: relating to a job that requires special education, training, or skill
: done or given by a person who works in a particular profession
: paid to participate in a sport or activity
source: http://beta.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professional
I work at an apple repair shop and i can confirm that macs are fairly reliable machines overall.
Here's what i've seen fail a lot on these machines, excluding the typical HDD(they always use the shittiest drives around) and battery, dented metal or chipped plastic, broken LCD, liquid damage on keyboard, cracked trackpad, or the stupid firmware issues(SMC & PRAM)
2006 polycarb macbook:
-video chip issues(similar to the HP dv600 video chip issues). Usually overheating related(apple has shit coolers)
-charging curcuit issues. usually caused by some sort of short, surge, or idiots using fake crappy adapters
-some units came with a small coating of what i thinm is lithium grease on its ram sticks. fucking bizarre, it causes issues over time.
-mouse button fucks up over time due to repeated use
2008 ploycarb macbook:
-video chip again
-charging curcuit again
-the fucking rubber mat that doubles as its feet and bottom lid gets loose and shitty like an overused vagina
-mouse can crack and fuck up if you have a bloating battery, although they sometimes just stop responding on certain parts
-mouse button fails
Macbook pro pre-2008:
-Video chip again
-charging circuit again
-mouse gets fucked sometimes if the battery bloats too much
-serious battery bloating issues(worth mentioning)
-one of the ram slots fucks up due to the use of shitty lead-free solder
-mouse button fails
macbook pro:
-video chip
-charging circuit
-hard drive cable. i shit you not. a fucking cable fails. This is what caused >>51687851
's machine to fuck up.
-mouse sometimes just stops functioning.
-wifi circuitry fucks up sometimes. On i5 and up machines its replacable but on older C2D machines its on the board.
-its rare, but sometimes the ram slot fucks up
-mouse button fails
-USB ports become loose easier than normal, and audio ports
>>51690558
Maybe a professional artist already using and utilizing apples AMAZING products. Maybe he is talented and will create more better art by using the ipad pro's 4 GB RAM and blazing fast Dual-core 2.26 GHz (Twister). Maybe he laughs at all the sad winblows users and poor ass linux fags. maybe he feels he is the future and is on his way to create, design, and engineer media and mind to it's absolute limit.
Or maybe he couldn't get any work as an art major and is now the cashier using an ipad pro.
>>51684989
Because I do not wish to learn an inferior OS on shitty hardware. What's your excuse for using one, aside from that the school took kickbacks to force them into the classrooms?
>>51691020
2008 macbook air:
-charging circuit
-not as often, but video chip
-batteries bad lots of bloating issues which warped the frame sometimes
-shittier than normal HDD. they used a fucking ipod HDD(1.8" IDE)
-the little USB/audio jack moving hood shit would fail for mehcianical reasons
-FUCKING TERRIBLE HINGES. this is really worth mentioning
2010+ macbook air:
-charging circuits
-mice sometimes fails
-mouse button sucks
-SSD's aren't the best in the world and can fuck up sometimes.
retina MBP:
-older units had screen burn-in problems and the oleophobic coating sometimes got scraped off by the keyboard when the lids closed
-charging circuit fucks up but not as often
-SSD isn't the greatest thing and sometimes fucks up. Good luck finding proper aftermarket ones for that odd connector
Video chip, storage issues,batteries, busted glass and charging circuit fuckups are definetly the biggest 5 failure points. All the video chip machines used nvidia chips with terrible cooling
Newer machines look more reliable, but not enough time pas passed to confirm.
>>51685636
You appear to be misusing the word 'joy' there.
>>51684989
>most reliable
im a student who uses a laptop
>hp probook 4530s
>i7 sandy bridge
>4gb ram, seperate dedicated graphics card (albiet entry class)
>inbuilt fingerprint reader, SD card reader, wireless modem card slot
>wifi, bluetooth,
>STANDARD HDMI/VGA and conventional internet connection ports
>1000 bucks back in 2011
5 years on, just upgraded to a SSD, inserted another ram chip, replaced the battery, and reapplied thermal paste.
performed a clean win 7 reinstall.
ran a geekbench, specs performed same as if it was new.
the difference between macs and PCs is pretty much this.
it costs little to repair, and you can upgrade bits and pieces at will.
macfags have to buy a new device completely.
>>51691020
>>51691050
Lessons for you all to improve your machine
1: clean out all dust from the vents all the time. It's easier on newer machines, but if you dont want your video chip to fuck up then do it
2: replace the HDD with something better. SSD is a bonus. i dont give a fuck about your shit on there, just restore it during install or clone it.
3: replace the ram. Many macbooks support faster ram and higher capacities than what they advertise, but certain sticks dont work. It'll be good overall. perfect time to clean ram slot too.
4: replace your batteries after about 800+ cycles, or if it starts to complain/mouse starts to not click well(shittier travel)
5: dont fucking drop it, or step on it, or spill shit on it. Dont let it near bugs or animals, pet hairs and dead roaches are fucking nasty
6: NEVER use fake adapters. they will die and sometimes take the machine with them.
7: OSX 10.6 is the best version of OSX for pre-2011 machines. 2011+, it's 10.7/10.8
8: reduce your consumption of phallic objects and wash your hands after you eat shit
>>51691020
>>51691050
>fairly reliable
>lists THE FUCKING USB PORT BEING LOOSE
are you fucking kidding me.
that shouldnt even be an issue.
>mouse button fails
i propose a simple solution for that.
if you have 2 buttons they'll last twice as long!
oh wait.
>>51691264
the machines themselves are fairly reliable, but some have just the dumbest issues. Many machines wont fuck up, but when they fuck up it'll be one of what i just listed. Mouse buttin fails because the metal dome gets fucked up over time. tap to click fixes it, or replacing the whole touchpad(since the button is on the underside of the pad)
I bought a memebook before I came out to NC, while it's nice to use it I honestly find myself not using it often as my x240 cause I'm so worried about scratching the screen it since I spent such much on it. To me it's like a garage queen, you'll talk so much shit that you own it but you don't use it enough to justify the purchase in the long run
just my anecdotal evidence senpai
>>51691302
get a case/film to cover up the metal and use a rubbber keyboard cover so it doesnt scratch the glass. It'll look like new years from now.
>>51691295
same can be said of pretty much any machine out there.
IMO macs are for the tech illiterate.
>>51691302
as a general rule, if you are afraid of damaging it, you probably shouldnt have bought it in the first place.
but there are steps you can take:
1. buy a sleeve for it
2. screen protector
3. keyboard cover
4. laptop stickers, to cover exterior against stains.
i have something similar for my surface pro 4.
- STM case, protects against drops, scratches, etc
- tempered glass screen cover
- sleeve
should cover all faults.
if anything goes wrong, i call microsoft support and get it replaced. (assuming its a hardware issue. which it is)
>>51691183
ONE LAST THING. REPLACE THE FUCKING THERMAL PASTE. the one that they provide is the biggest steaming pile of shit.
>>51691410
you're a terrible shill
>>51691404
macs by themselves are for the tech illiterate, but since it's running a BSD/unix hybrid, it can support your typical loonix shit with a bit of tweaking (homebrew nigga). SOme things are completely idiot (window buttons are useless. they don close, fullscreen takes up the whole screen, minimize is redundant due to close button not closing)
>>51691440
id recommend a mac to any idiot, but a proper PC to those who look like they have half a brain. I deal with these humans shit all day long and their stupid ass problems, and a lot of them are attributed to misuse. fucking idiots yank out cords, put strain on them, use shitty 3rd party shit, drop machines, drink shit near them, etc. Macs, in and of themselves, are great machines, but its usually idiotic customers that fuck them up. That and repairability is expensive, albeit possible. MBP is still the most upgradable machine ever made by them, next to the old mac pro.
>243 replies
>106 posters
kek butthurt chinkpad and lagdroid shill
>>51691153
i too have a probook from that era. it's a 5 lbs clunky piece of shit that barely got 4 hours of usage. i also bought a macbook air around that time and it danced circles around the probook in battery life, ease of use and productivity. 2 years later i sold that macbook air for $120 less than i paid for it and upgraded to a haswell macbook air which gets 16 fucking hours of battery life. i'm still using it to this day and if i wanted to i could resell it for $700. meanwhile my garbage probook runs like crap despite having maxed ram and SSD, the hinges are coming apart, barely get 2 hours of battery life on the 2nd set of HP official replacement batteries I bought for it and worst of all: if i wanted to off-load it on the second hand market i would only get $100 for it.
>LOL FUCKING HP GARBAGE AND WINBLOWS
>EVEN ONCE
>>51691553
cut out your losses before it devalues too much
>>51691580
demand is pretty high for macbooks in my area. you see C2D models still going for $500. besides i don't think i even need to upgrade until the next major refresh.
>>51685825
>saying "maymay"
kill yourself
>>51690182
>use ios 9 on ipad 2, laggy as shit and makes you feel like wanting to kill yourself or buying a new iPad
>use a custom rom of lollipop 5.1 on galaxy s2, smooth as fuck, no lag whatsoever
>>51691607
i mean the hp. C2D models still go for 500 which is insane, but you can get lucky with broken models that have stupid issues such as HDD, shit battery or cracked touchpad(these are easy to fix)
>>51684989
i have an ipad why would i need a macbook?
I haven't used my iPad ever since I got my rMBP
>>51691655
I have a launch iPad 1 which i use explicitly for reading mango, and occasional text books & light novels in PDF format. light browsing too. i use it everyday, but have not had the urge to upgrade to a newer model. tbqh i find myself browsing on my macbook more, but nothing beats the comfy of reading on a tablet
>>51687308
>I wanted a macbook
>I got a Lenovo U400 macbook clone instead
>ran like shit, bios imploded and wouldn't boot after reinstalling windows, felt cheap, hinge floppy, sharp sides of the notebook aluminum dug into my wrists
It's like it wanted me to an hero, but then I got a real job, and bought a macbook pro
