I decided to make this thread solely because while /sqt/ works, I'm decently knowledgable about tech and just wanted to run it through /g/ to make sure it's good.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7LNbbv
I don't plan on OCing. At the price point, R9 390 > 970. My budget is about 850, but I don't want to add anything else since everything is good enough and the 4690k is marginally superior to the 4590.
Useful resources: http://pcpartpicker.com/
http://tomshardware.com/
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/nnvJcf
i'm planning on oc'ing both cpu and gpu. anything i should change before i order?
>>51671197
Why do you need 2 SSDs, 16GB of RAM, and a be quiet case when you could get 8 gigs of RAM, 1 SSD, and an NZXT S340 and save enough money to get a better GPU?
What's your budget?
I got a build question. For the past 2 years I've been using a cx500 to power an fx 8320 and a hd 7870. I have come across a good deal to upgrade to a 7970. Is my psu adequate?
>>51671239
my original budget was 2300€, but i'm way past that by now.
the second ssd is mostly for backups (and maybe one or two big games), since they're more reliable than hdds.
good point on the ram, though. that case also looks ok. i'll see if i can squeeze out enough money for a 980, thank you!
>>51671284
No. Especially not if you're going full AMD.
http://i.imgur.com/tgrbCnr.jpg
Use that guide. Aside from the 'le gayben xddd' memes that are associated with PCMasterRace, it's actually not that bad.
>>51671316
The CPU cooler doesn't need to be that expensive either. Unless you want to OC to insane levels, a 212 EVO will work just fine.
Torrent Windows and don't get an optical drive either, though it's not like the S340 even supports those.
>>51671365
won't be enough for a 980, unless i wait for the pcie ssd to drop in price, but at least you saved me around 150 bucks. i'm glad i asked here, thanks
>>51671466
Theoretically you should be able to get a 980 if you torrent windows and replace the cooler with a 212 EVO. At least that's how our prices in America are, you're in Germany so I wouldn't know.
>>51671318
Damn was hoping I didn't have to upgrade the psu. I might just try it
>>51671493
at this point i actually wouldn't mind paying another 70€, but is it really worth getting the 980 if i'm only going to play at 1080p?
>>51671493
Okay, so I managed to get you a 980Ti and keep you below the price you were initially going to pay.
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/dzs2Jx
>>51671655
980 is overkill for 1080p for fucking sure and the 980Ti even more so, but honestly if I can afford it, I'd still get it.
I know this rig is overkill but am I getting value for my money? Will it be able to surpass 1080p?
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/TQNM99
>>51671720
Get a 4690k. 4690k is for gaming, 4790k is mainly for video editing and the like. Power supply isn't good by any means, refer to http://i.imgur.com/tgrbCnr.jpg for a good one. Honestly I'd get an S340, I know I shill it a lot, but it's really the best case you can buy at that price point. R4 and S340 are basically neck and neck.
Get 8, maybe 12 GB of RAM. And a 1440p monitor, because seriously if you're going to go that far, go the distance.
An on the move build. I drive to mates places and a couple of us drink, catch up, games, etc.
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/VPLZNG
Can't think of anything else. Prices are Australian too
>>51671684
212 EVO is too small if you plan to overclock, the PSU is too small if you plan to overclock.
>>51671720
Fix up that power supply to a SeaSonic or equally as good one as well as the fans. For case fans you want AF (ASir-Flow), not SP (Static-Pressure) <- These are for radiators
>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
will the sapphire r9 390 gpu really fit in the fractal core 1300?
Dunno if I should blindly trust pcpartpicker with this.
On the official site it states that the case supports gpus up to the length of 380mm.
How long is the r9 390? Will it it?
>>51671859
Thanks for correcting me. I forgot OCing adds to watt usage. 212 EVO is fine for light overclocking though.
>>51671960
I'm retorded
>http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/VJX6Jx
can I trust pcpartpicker with this?
>>51671684
>>51671859
thank you family. going with a be quiet! dark rock 3 (non-pro), no pcie ssd and instead a gtx 980 now.
considering the monitor has 144hz, i might as well spend the cash on a better gpu rather than faster boot times. since i won't be torrenting windows (i don't trust closed source cracks anymore), the 980ti is just out of my price range.
>>51672036
>>51671960
>How long is the r9 390? Will it it?
>>51671805
>>51671859
Okay here's a revised build
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/PDs2Jx
i need more opinions. how does my build look, besides gpu, which i will upgrade later,
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6bFNdC
>>51671318
Not the same guy. Thanks for the guide. I'm still deciding on which PSU and motherboard and case to get.
Since don't know much about good airflow, I'm thinking Fractal Define S?
>i5 4960k
>Sapphire R9 390 Nitro
>Any Z97 (MSI, Gigabyte, Asus?)
>212 EVO
>PSU=????
>HyperXFury 1x8GB DDR4
Opinions?
>>51672359
Nope. Wrong one, fucked up on the ram
>>51671197
Your build is shit.
>>51672616
I don't think the 4690k even supports DDR4 memory. But I'd go MSI for the MOBO, and get a Corsair AX, EVGA Supernova G2, or really any Seasonic,
>>51671161
Your build and mine are extremely similar
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XDRdZL
>>51672932
Holy shit, no kidding.
>>51671720
don't buy kingston ssd's. after they got good reviews, they switched to cheaper parts, meaning you get fucked if you buy one of their drives. intel and samsung are better choices
>>51673087
Same with PNY. I'd have to agree with this anon. This thread turned out better than I expected to be honest, hopefully it'll ascend to the status of a thread you will always see on the first page, like /flt/, /sqt/, and /wt/.
>>51671720
>overkill
Do you know what that word means?
What's with all the morons in this thread buying 80+ Gold power supplies and saying overclocking requires 1200W?
I have my HD7970 overclocked from 925/1375 to 1050/1475 with the core voltage *lower* than default and memory voltage unchanged.
Even if you increase voltages, you aren't going to add anymore than about 10% to your power usage peak.
All the 'this brand is reliable' talk is nonsense, and the only thing that has evidence you can look up in detail is it's 80+ certification. Going for gold over standard 80+ might save you $1/year in electricity, but what's the point when the PSU costs $50+ more?
>>51673204
Forgive the second SLI bridge, by the way. I thought it looked hilarious but there's only one attached. Second one's a joke.
>>51673219
It doesn't. I think you can oc a 4690k on a 550w PSU.
>>51673204
Overkill for my budget
>>51673087
Yeah I swapped it out for samsung
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/KyCxpg this build has been through a lot, any further refinements I could make?
>>51672559
a-anyone?
>>51673404
Not bad fampai. I don't understand why people are opting for 6600k, I'd go for 4690k since its cheaper. Otherwise, pretty solid. I'd get some Corsair RAM myself but that's just preference. Crucial still makes Good RAM.
Considering a mini ITX build. Any input or advice? I've already checked that everything will fit so that's not an issue.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/R9kNdC
With regards to that 970 brand, I know it's not the best but it'll be visible through the long side vent so I don't want ugly colors and length is a consideration.
>>51673440
What is good Ram???
>>51673440
thanks senpai. i myself didn't know how to pick brands for both mobo, and ram, but those were the ones i ended up with
>>51673514
Corsair, Crucial, G.Skill, in that order in terms of quality.
I've got a budget of around 900€ and I'm thinking of getting a i5 6500 with a GTX 960
What would be a good mb to go with it?
Are the 6500 and 960 good for a future proof build or am I making a mistake?
>>51671161
Seriously though somebody advise me on my build. IMO it's pretty solid but still.
>>51673531
Depends on the motherboard you're getting.
Rate/Hate my build, I'm open to any suggestions, but it's the best I can get for ~$1200 CAD
>>51673496
>Getting an overclocking CPU with a non-overclocking board
>Getting a single stick of RAM, just get 4x2 unless you're upgrading later
>Getting a silverstone power supply ever
>>51673552
that's what I'm still unsure of though, the ones that are recommended online seem incredibly overpriced at €150+
>>51673560
Get a 4690k, 8gb of Corsair RAM, and an R9 390. I don't see the appeal of Mini-ITX. PSU is solid. Is this in burgerbux or maplebux? The price isn't quite right for our dollar.
>>51673560
Oh I forgot to downgrade the K after moving from an ATX build.
I have no idea why I'd get 4x2 over 8.
That particular line of silverstone is recommended by memeincrements and well-reviewed.
>>51672256
Yes, so long as you take a few of the drive cages out.
>>51672359
Go for a single channel set up, (2 sticks), 2x4GB. Less work for the motherboard. Otherwise, as much as I despise 980Ti Hybrids, it looks good.
>>51672559
Everything seems in order.
>>51672616
If you've got no color preference, I always recommend GigaByte UD-,The Ultra Durable's WILL last you quite some time. Next, an ASUS board, then MSI.
PSU's, SeaSonic, XFX Pro, Corsair AXi, RMi, HXi, Antec High Current Gamer (HCG), CoolerMaster Silent Pro, Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 11, EVGA SuperNova (Gold rated or higher only)
>>51672932
Looks good
>>51673219
Efficiency ratings generally contribute to more quality components inside the PSU rather than saving power. Higher quality caps, heatsinks, etc.
>>51673440
If it's new, people want it without second guessing.
>>51673514
Anything that comes with a lifetime warranty.
>>51673531
6500 is good, although you could probably get an overclockable i5-4690k and 380. It'll overclock therefore beat the Skylake, and the 960's are rubbish. 380 is cheaper, and more powerful.
>>51673560
Looks good, no HDD?
Happy to keep helping
>>51673368
Unless you're throwing away 1600 quid on a new PC every year, halve your budget and do the following:
Go with a non-K CPU and a cheap motherboard. Drop the CPU cooler. CPU overclocking used to be free food, but now they actually charge you extra, just for option to overclock! Only suckers fall for it. Save and money and put it into something else, and have fun overclocking your GPU instead. Think about man, you're throwing away perhaps 200 pounds just to make your CPU perform a bit better and die a little faster.
Go with 2 x 8GB RAM. It's cheap, and it'll give you more options, as well as that 'dual channel' mode if it makes any difference.
Go with a video card that's about half the price of the 980 Ti. Something that'll give you 60fps on the most recent and intensive games at very high settings. Overclock it to get the most out of it. I've had my HD7970 since 2013, and I still run everything on very high. You can buy a new better card in two years time or so, and not be stuck with an outdated 980 Ti.
Don't waste money on case fans. Either lie your case down on its side and reduce temps automagically by 10 degrees, or do some cheap DIY innovation. It'll be more rewarding and more effective than wasting 30 pounds on two fans (which might not even fit, given they're both 140mm).
Check the response time and input lag of the monitor you buy, those are the two most important considerations. Then consider 120hz/144hz and color accuracy.
>>51673657
6600k is marginally better. Honestly I'd only get one when 1151 MOBOS become dirt-cheap.
>>51673657
>380 is cheaper, and more powerful.
Isn't ATI supposed to be worse than NVidia when it comes to drivers and such?
>>51673671
Which post are you referring too, sorry. Sort of basted straight through everyone
>>51673610
It's maplebux, I wanted to make a build that would be just well-rounded overall, as I'd probably try out 3d modelling/rendering, and video editing/rendering. I'll try that out, but I'm not sure it'll fit in my budget
>>51673615
No worries, and since almost every modern mobo can take advantage of dual channel RAM, it's better to get 2 sticks rather than 1, as running them in dual channel gives quite a boost to overall performance
>>51673663
Literally this.
>>51673689
see >>51673440
>>51673681
Not really. Some games are unoptimized as fuck for AMD but very optimized for NVidia.
>>51673681
No, that's a stupid fucking meme that should've died long ago.
>>51673702
Oh, yes. Definitely. Some people can't get 1150's anymore though.
>>51673671
Same here. I got a Lancool PC-K58W case for dirt cheap and already planned on stuffing a modern Skylake-based system inside it.
I sometimes wondered why the hell Lian Li fell below the radar in recent times.
>>51673663
Will I be looking at 1080p or 1440p with this advice?
Will I be able to buy a cannonlake Xeon in 6 months? How much for a shitty one? I want to encode 10bit HEVC and shit.
>>51673663
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/qf6wdC are you talking about something like this?
>>51673845
It's worthwhile thinking about 1440p with a large monitor (i.e. 27"), but personally I side with 1080p because that's the most supported resolution, and the pixel density is still decent. Going with 1440p puts 77% extra strain on your GPU. 4K is a complete meme as I'll explain below.
Keep in mind that resolution is just pixel density, it doesn't affect quality. Someone will grumble 'anti-aliasing', but that's insignificant. All it does is decrease the distance between pixels. Look closely at your screen, and you'll see the black space between pixels. So long as you don't see the black space, you literally won't be able to tell the difference.
My eyes sit about 45cm away from my screen, and 23" 1080p is optimum for me according to calculations I've done. There's a lot more to be said about it, but basically 27"+ is too large for your central and decent peripheral vision unless you don't sit at your desk like a normal person. I would recommend 24" 1080p.
>>51674033
Sounds good, thanks
>>51673671
>Honestly I'd only get one when 1151 MOBOS become dirt-cheap.
how is the msi krait gaming mobo for $115 sound?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vCPgGX
I was trying to go as cheap as possible without dipping into technology that's too outdated.
>>51674061
Not cheap enough for me, I'm a poorfag.
>>51674126
500w PSU would be fine. When was the last time you burned a cd/dvd?
>>51673908
Motherboard and RAM should be the cheapest you can get. RAM speed doesn't matter at all, and in a motherboard you only want to make sure it's compatible with your RAM speed (2 slots should be enough unless you intend to expand) and perhaps USB 3.0 if you want it. You don't need 10 USB ports, quad-crossfire/sli, overclocking capability and all the other meaningless incentives. The Gigabyte GA-H81M-H has 2 x USB 3.0 and 2 x DDR3-1600, and it's only 36 pounds.
A good thing about the cheaper motherboards also is that they're smaller. I guess it might even use a slightly less power, but the most important benefit is that it's easier to work with in the case I find.
I don't know much about the GTX 970, but from the cursory glance I had before it seems like it'll at least run the most demanding games at 60fps right now. The GPU benchmark site says the AMD 390 is best value, but I haven't checked.
You should be able to find a cheaper power supply. Anything that's '80+' marked and 500W+ will do.
Researching true response time and input lag of monitors can be hard, but it might be particularly important if you're an online FPS gamer.
>Corsair AF140 QEs are more expensive than Noctua NF-A14 PWMs
What kind of world am I living in?
>>51674153
Years ago but I still regularly watch dvd's from netflix, and I figured for only $11 I might as well add some functionality just in case I need it
>>51674126
Get the 4590. It's only a few dollars more expensive. Get an R9 380 as well.
>>51674181
One where Corsair can afford to charge the price that they do since they're Corsair.
>>51674126
Have you used an SSD before?
If you haven't, you should get one. It makes a big difference to computer responsiveness.
PSU is overkill, GPU could be better.
>>51674197
I have heard that games are not optimized for Radeon and the 960 was a better choice, is there any truth to this?
>>51674223
How large of an SSD is necessary?
>>51674286
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vCPgGX
Don't believe the Nvidia shills.
All you need are driver updates for the less optimized games to work just as well.
>>51674286
I keep my programs on my SSD and videos/torrents/etc on my connected external drive
SSDs are cheap now, 250GB seems about the best value
>>51674286
That's NVidia shill, but it's partially true since NVidia probably gives companies the big bux to make AMD's stuff unoptimized as hell.
>>51671197
Don't get the Plextor M6e. The Samshit 950 PRO and SM951 are not only cheaper/GB, but also faster in every single aspect. The only advantage that the Plextor Black has is the heatsink, but that means you can't mount it in an M.2 slot. You need to use a PCIe3 4x slot.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nBg6Jx
Decent? Granted the mobo and GPU are barely used items.
>>51674474
>$80 for case fans
God help us
Ditch the case fans and go with a cheaper 80+ standard/bronze power supply. If you're not a serious gamer, why do you need all that fancy stuff for overclocking your CPU?
>>51674548
It's mainly for gaming.
>>51674474
i7s are meme CPUs unless you do heavy-duty shit with it like video editing and rendering. You don't need case fans unless you're running 3 way SLI. Get a cheaper case like the S340 (I know I'm shilling it hard but it's pretty damn good). Get rid of the speakers.
Your GPU is going to bottleneck you hard fampai, I hope you didn't purchase it already.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WdCTQ7
Here you go. If you don't want to OC, get a 4590. I don't see the point of getting a mech along with it, I'd honestly get them separately later since while peripherals are great and all, the hardware inside your PC matters more.
>>51674612
Also as a comparison, if you didn't insist on buying peripherals now, you could get a 980Ti and still fit inside that 1.2k budget.
Pc rebuilding question here
I have an EVGA 560 ti from 2012, and it has outlived its usefulness. Playing fallout 4 or Witcher 3 is painful. To upgrade, should I drop a few hundred on a new graphics card or
Or buy another 560 ti and try SLI? If I do SLI, do I need to buy the exact same card or can I got with a different (but still nvidia) card?
>>51674658
Buy a new GPU. SLI can be summed up with pic related.
>>51674607
Get a non-K i5 and a cheap motherboard. Spend what you save on a better GPU, or just pocket it.
If you've already bought that GPU, it's not bad, but you're best pairing it with an i5 nonetheless. I have the same GPU (HD7970) with i5-4670
>>51674658
What's your mobo/ram/cpu?
You just have to get the same model card, doesn't matter what brand it is, so long as it's a 560 ti
I'm trying to get an entry-level PC under $800 with a monitor that I can improve on as I go. I'm looking for above average as I'm just trying to play some games and enjoy college but not squeeze out every ounce of GAMING out of every game. What do you guys think?
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1HHVF7
Baby's first gaming rig. My budget is 2000 USD for the Tower and not 500 more for peripherals. How did I do?
>>51674634
>980Ti
Taxed to hell in this shithole of a country. At least 750 USD for a Palit and break through 800 USD for an EVGA.
As for the GPU, I got it for cheap as a stand-in just to get it running. Might replace it with a 290X/390X or depends on what Arctic Islands have to offer.
>>51674726
Cpu i5-2500k
8 gigs ram
Asus LGA 1155 z68
>>51674733
Buy the parts and build it yourself. Pre-builts are always trash rip offs.
The GPU in that computer is garbage. It runs Crysis 3 @ 1080p at 24fps.
>>51674733
scratch that. With an operating system It's $964. Still doable, though. Any opinions?
>>51674733
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3CLG99
>>51674769
Get a 4690k or 4590, get a 212 EVO instead. You don't need a MOBO that expensive, get a Z97 PC Mate. 8GB of RAM is all you need, preferably Corsair. Stop being a faggot, get 1 SSD, 128GB for vidya and windows, and a WD Caviar Blue. Get a Fractal Design R4, and instead of that atrocious RM, Get an EVGA Supernova G2. Get rid of that meme optical drive, and torrent Windows.
All in all, by doing that you can get a pretty bitchin' GPU.
>>51674815
Should run SLI at x8 rather than x16, but it doesn't make that much of a performance difference.
I just looked up the 560 ti though, and it says it has 1GB VRAM? If this is correct, you will just have to buy a new card, as most modern games require 2GB, sometime 3GB or 4GB in some cases. Memory doesn't stack with SLI. Your CPU/RAM is still alright.
>>51671161
Here's a better build for a little bit more than $850.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DFGQrH
>>51674917
PSU isn't that good, I want a Z97 so if the 4690k is ever dirt cheap, I can buy it and OC. I'm just not planning on OCing now since it's my first build. I don't want an SSD and WD > Seagate. 390x is neat though, but I'd rather have a higher-end case than the spec-02.
I'm a miser that wants to play recent games (say the latest call of duty) at medium settings and at medium resolution - basically the minimum to maintain true immersion. I also will be doing some relatively light programming in my spare time. How does this build look for that task?:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9x69kL
I want to keep it around $400 if possible but I can push it to $450 if there is a compelling reason. Thanks in advance.
>>51675003
Not bad actually. Though I think the 260x outperforms the 750Ti.
This is the best bang-for-buck $800 config:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rMb37P
>>51673700
The performance boost when using dual channel is negligible, you'll only see benefits doing serious simulation like CFD, parametric analysis. Gamers, mainstream users, and office users shouldn't care.
>>51674885
Thanks mang
I know I'll sound like a faggot saying this, but I'm rather proud that the thread got to 100 posters.
>>51674978
>PSU isn't that good
It's an EVGA PSU, while it's not modular it supplies clean power to the machine.
>I don't want an SSD
You NEED an SSD. SSD help boot times tremendously and any program or game installed on them will have fast as fuck loading times.
>WD > Seagate
Don't fall for Backblaze meme. There's no actual evidence that Seagate is better or worse than WD. If you wanna know more check http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html and save yourself a couple of bucks when buying Seagate over WD.
>390x is neat though, but I'd rather have a higher-end case than the spec-02.
Always, always prioritize GPU performance over anything else. If you can get a better GPU by sacrificing cosmetics, then brother you better throw cosmetics out of the door.
Anyway taking some of your things into consideration I created a new partlist that still has better performance over your original build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4GPCHx
Again you might go another route but if I had ~850 I would choose my build because it has better performance.
>>51674860
Every bit helps. Except Western Digital, not touching that with a 75 foot pole. Otherwise all good things to take under advisement.
>>51675073
>best bang for buck
>16gbram
>optical drive
First time building a medium to low end PC
currently set on a i3 4170 and 8 gb RAM
should I buy 2x4gb or just 1x8gb, is there a noticeable difference? Should I just get the cheapest 1x8gb or is the Hyper Fury X MLG 420 ultra sniper shit actually a thing?
>>51675182
I don't want an SSD. I'm fine with Windows taking 30 seconds to boot. I don't plan on maxing games at 1440p, I plan on maxing them at 1080p from 40-60 FPS, my build does that just fine so I don't see the need for a 390x over a 390.
>>51675003
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nBLG99
You could wait for a deal on the SSD, it was $40 recently
A Hitachi 750GB HDD only costs $35 if you need extra space
Maybe try and find a cheaper case and PSU that is at least 500W 80+ rated, but I wouldn't go lower on any of the other parts. This GPU will play every current game at 60fps on high/very high settings so it'll last a while
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BXL3P6
Any suggestions?
>>51675192
I've had 16GB ram for 3 years now, and there's been times where I've used more than 8GB. It's only an extra $28 anyway.
CDs/DVDs are still in use and an optical drive costs only 3 hot ham & cheese croissants
>>51675322
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rMb37P
>>51675230
No dude no, spring a dollar or two for an SSD. It helps everything, it makes everything better. I am running fallout 4 on a hard disk, and that shit is painful. In game loading, detail loading, and kind of loading makes my rig sad. You can get SSDs for a song right now. No excuses
>>51671161
We already have an /sqt/ for this exact purpose, OP.
Help me build a NAS/server, /g/
It has to be cheaper than $2000, run 24/7, and have at least 12TB of storage.
>>51675377
>I decided to make this thread solely because while /sqt/ works, I'm decently knowledgable about tech and just wanted to run it through /g/ to make sure it's good.
>>51675367
Maybe later, but not now.
>>51671161
r8 me /g/
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W7PpCJ#incompatibilities
>>51675449
The biggest update anyone, and I mean anyone can do to their PC is a boot SSD.
Unless you are doing some crazy shoestring budget build you want an SSD on your system.
>>51675513
this is now an abuse thread
>>51675552
Fuck off weebfag
>>51675600
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>>51675513
what is this i couldnt find anything through reverse image search
>>51675787
karahara shima
>>51675513
plz someone rate me
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W7PpCJ
used for mid to high level gayming
>>51675810
looks good
just fyi if you're on a budget you can get a 290 with a worse cooler for $220. basically same performance, more heat and noise, less money.
What does /g/ think of this m-itx build? I wanted to go skylake+nano without any overclocking. Let me know how I can improve as I'll be willing to throw in more money for efficient, quality parts. This will be used for work/gaming.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YjvrNG
>>51674860
That setup has no cooling or operating system tho?
>>51675937
or am I missing something
What is the best cheap cpu heatsink for mini itx build out there? I prefer cooler master because it is easy to find here. But I dont mind other suggestion. Thanks
>>51675994
For what case, you idiot? Some can even handle full-sized coolers (larger ones, of course). My tiny sugo, on the other hand, can barely squeeze in a low-profile cooler between the CPU and the PSU.
(And I fucking love it)
>>51675952
Torrent Windows. At any rate the case will come with some decent fans.
>>51675937
Why the hell would you even need aftermarket coolers for, you fucking autist? It's not even an overclockable CPU to begin with.
is the MSI 970 gaming 4gb worth the extra cost if i plan on overclocking my 970? or am i better off getting the EVGA Aco2.o FTW?
>>51676173
I'd go with MSI's 970 either way, it's quieter.
>>51676173
>970
>4gb
Pick one.
>>51676290
Nice maymay friend.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ytHc8d
New mini itx build iteration. Any input?
I mostly wonder whether that cpu sink will be able to handle a 4ghz OC. I can't fit a 120mm fan in the correct orientation so I had to step down to a 100mm. The case's airflow should be adequate barring cables so the cpu fan will be the limiting factor.
>>51676337
Call it a meme all you want. It's a shit card that stutters when VRAM consumption gets high and everyone knows it.
You either get the 390 or spend a bit more on the 980 (or 390X).
970, never.
>>51676378
>970
Disgusting.
Again, get a 390, or move up to the 980. Do not buy that shit card.
And I'm not going to research it, but are you sure you can use coolers like that in this mITX case?
And are you sure just 120 GB is enough storage?
>>51676467
Other than the 4gb meme (I don't have any interest in more than the two 1080p screens I have now so I don't care), what's wrong with the 970?
I checked the dimensions, everything fits.
The SSD is 500gb.
>>51676507
Nvm didn't read your reply to the other guy
>>51675902
Looks good, could chip in a little for a low-profile Noctua CPU fan.
And protentially something other than a AsRock board. They're... not the best.
>>51675994
This is my mITX build if interested.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VPLZNG
>>51676173
Did you really just say GTX 970 4GB? Heh.. Adorable.
>>51676378
Input would be to toss away the 970 and the Silverstone Strider. It's not about a meme. You want to keep your card for a while, right? Games will begin to exceed those VRAM limits, then no matter how powerful the card.. you'll need to turn textures down. But quite frankly, is people are into that sort of thing then by all means.
>>51676467
I will agree that the 390 is superior, and sorry to say, but people have preference.
>>51676576
I'll look into the 390. The strider is a specific selection because it's only 140mm long which is required for a modular psu in that case.
>>51676507
The problem is the 4 GB issue.
Everyone who says "you don't need more than 3.5 GB for 1080p" is being extremely short-sighted. Just a few years ago 1 GB was plenty for 1080p. Then came the overkill 1.5/2 GB cards. Then 2 GB became the norm for 1080p gaming. Today 2 GB is already pushing it for 1080p, and you want at least 3 GB to be comfortable.
Don't let those retards tell you there's such a thing as a fixed ideal ammount of memory for a given resolution. VRAM requirements increase over time even at the same resolution (specially because of textures, but due to other assets as well, even geometry), and specially now when consoles have an abundance of it.
The problem then is that while you may not experience the stutterfest today, soon when games start pushing 3.5 GB at 1080p, you will. While other 4 GB cards like the 290X and 980 will not.
>>51676578
>prefering the shit gimped card
You can prefer Nvidia. Just get a 980 instead, which is not a shit card. If you deliberately buy a 970, you're a retard.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/seinthebear/saved/jZHmP6
Did I do well? Plan on getting more RAM asap.
Is CAS latency a meme or does it actually matter?
>>51676628
Latency matters as much as frequency.
>>51676617
>860K
>290X
It's like you take a baby bird and chop off its wings to make sure it never achieves its potential.
>>51676638
I'm gonna go Intel soon, this is just to hold me over until I get more money
>>51676636
Then not at all. Got it.
>>51676584
I see, I would've said the Corsair RM though it's 10mm longer.
>>51676617
Not much to rate however yes it a solid build.
>>51676628
It matters when you're talking within 2-5 margin, anything lower you won't see much difference
>>51676661
May as well want till Zen or Cannonlake, that build will keep you going for another few years.
>>51676628
How fast a memory module seeks data is a consequence of both timings and frequency.
CAS 9, for example, means it takes 9 cycles to retrieve data from a particular location (forgot the exact circunstance CAS refers to). DDR3-1600 runs at 800 MHz, meaning 800 million cycles per second. Do the math and you'll know how many nanoseconds the module takes to seek that data. Repeat for every frequency/timings combination you are considering to know which is the fastest in seeking data.
(There's bandwidth as well, it's a different story, but extremely few programs have a high demand on that.)
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/y6yNdC
Hiya /g/ this is best build i was able to make for a decent 1080p mid-high build for the next for years.
I'm happy with it and I will be ordering the parts very soon. Any advice until I nail the coffin in this build for no regrets?
>>51676045
Shit. For CM 130 Elite i guess? It's the cheapest and looks okay
ANTI-970 SHILLS BTFO
>>51676857
Hate to tell you fampai, but there is no way in hell the 970 outperforms a Titan Z, the Fury X, and the 295x2.
>>51676843
>CM 130 Elite
That case is fucking huge for mITX. You might as well make an mATX build instead, which is be only a bit larger in volume.
If you actually want something small, get a Sugo SG13. But mind the GPU limitation, only up to 25.5 cm (or 10 inches for ameritards).
>>51676857
>thinking passmark can be used to represent GPU performance
Just look at the techpowerup performance summaries, you fucking idiot.
>>51676903
Yeah.. Already checked. There's no Sugo 13 sold around here.
>>51676805
Yeah get a much better video card.
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/ysfwdC
>>51676584
Is there a significant difference in cooling efficiency between the MSI and Gigabyte 390 versions? I know MSI is less seedy overall, but the itx case I've selected has the card right up against a big vent on the left side and I don't particularly want the MSI card's bright red shining through.
>>51675810
>2015
>not getting a 295x2 strapped to a psu as your comp
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PTxwdC
>>51676576
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MVQkpg
I updated the build a little, I'm now using m.2 storage instead...because I can.
>>51676984
No sugos at all? To my knowledge they are the only affordable mITX cases that are actually small.
You can find other small ones (<15L volume), but they won't come so cheap.
If you're looking at CM Elite or Thermaltake Core kinda stuff, just go with mATX instead. It will be barely bigger and easier to work on.
(I love my Sugo, but I had to cut PSU cables off with scissors for everything to fit with space for airflow, because the extra cables made it too cramped and it doesn't support modular ATX PSUs)
>>51677200
Beautiful. But get a Z170 board instead (unless the wi-fi versions are too expensive). H170 loses many features for usually insignificant money savings.
>>51677022
A 970 sorta go's over my budget I could squeeze it in there if it really needed, but the 380 already play GTA 5 at 60fps. I could also swap out the 6600 with a 6400 to lower the price
>>51677253
What do I lose other than overclocking? I wasn't planning on overclocking anything anyway.
>>51677263
>970
Ew.
If you're going over the 380, get the 390, not the 3.5 GB disaster.
>>51677295
I don't have the exact specs handy right now, but mostly PCIe lanes and some IO options. Nothing really important, but not worthing saving $10 on. Check the prices of similar Z170 boards, if it's close you might as well switch.
>>51677263
Dump the evo.
>>51677331
I could i get sandisk ulrta || for $120, but for 10 bucks more the Evo sounds like a better deal.
>>51677300
The 970 is still cheaper in Australia so price to performance is better.
>>51676805
Asus H170-PRO
This mobo looks about the same price as yours, but you get usb 3.1 with it.
>>51677427
I mean dump the SSD altogether. They're nice but I'd rather have a 970/390 class card over it.
>>51677217
Any of this good?
>>51677506
I don't see much worth into buying a 970/380 now with the newest cards coming out very soon.
The 380 already play everything in my steam library nicely. Maybe i should just buy a second hand gpu now.
I saw a 290 for 350, i'm not sure how great of a deal that is thought
>>51677553
A good 290 deal would be 66% of the price of a new 390.
Why do we even get these threads. the sticky covers it all
>>51677071
pls
Current build I've got
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VdQkpg
>>51677583
Thanks, but really want to know if it is logical to buy a higher class cards when the gpus are around the corner
>>51677697
That's excessive as fuck.
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
Doing a overhaul of my computer, bringing over my PSU, GPU, RAM, and HDD, will eventually replace them as time passes, but focusing on these parts first.
Anything particularly wrong?
>>51678003
>/parts/partlist/
You did it wrong fampai.
\ >>51678003
>>51678015
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tLm9kL
Whoops, I'm a dumb faggot.
>>51677697
You could have 90% of the power and effectiveness this computer has for >$1000 less.
Your price/performance is shit so I assume you're loaded.
Run RAID 10 or something if you're spending that much.
My friend has a system in the mail I chose. I got him a 5820k + Hyper 212 Evo + Asrock X99 Extreme4 + 16GB Corsair Dominator + Samsung 250GB PRO SSD + 2TB Caviar Black + 290X TriX 4GB and he chose a HAF case. For peripherals some 1080p 144hz Asus monitor + CM quickfire rapid w/browns he already had a mouse.
>>51677697
>that excessiveness that isn't gonna get much
Jesus Christ, there is a point where throwing more money isn't gonna do shit.
>>51677697
All that money and you're running a pleb tier mainstream i7.
baka desu senpai
>>51678100
What is the most powerful commercial build out there and for what purpose?
>>51678025
You're kind of missing half the shit needed to make a PC.
>>51678038
Even if I were loaded, I wouldn't spend that much on a PC. Once you start going above the 1.5k price range, you're building a specialized type of computer, or you're a retard who thinks "MOAR EXPENSIV, BETTER PC!" which is generally true, but not once each of your parts start going above the 200 dollar range.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qJLG99
Excessive and better price/performance.
>>51678071
Not bad, though Quickfire Rapids are kind of poorfag tier mechs. They're not bad by any means, I'm typing on one currently, but Corsair is generally a better option.
>>51678137
Tianhe-2, it's a supercomputer with over 32,000 Xeons. In terms of consumer? Probably some workstation bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2#Applications
>>51678025
>>51678167
I already have the rest of the parts, I'm just switching over to a new case and picking up a new mobo and CPU.
My GPU is a AMD Radeon HD 7870, my PSU is a Crosair (cannot remember which brand atm, I know it's about 600w or so), and the RAM sticks at 16GB DDR3.
I'm just checking to see if I'm getting screwed out of this mobo+CPU+case+SSD.
>>51678167
I am also using a quickfire rapid. Mines got vintage cherry DS and gateron blacks in it. Its still the best keyboard in its price range. I dont like the plate level case on the corsairs and i trust costar to build my keyboards (not always cases).
>>51678259
I don't like the rubber coating to be honest.
>>51677427
I'm sorry but where in Australia are you where a 970 is cheaper than a 390 you wanker...
>>51678688
Me neither. But I used to get these for $57 a pop when i worked in retail and the market price is like $70. its a helluva steal. Needs new keycaps and its good to go as long as youre not autistic about the case but even so theres very little flex and its well built.
any advice on psu n cooler?
planning to OC
>>51677697
Am I the only one who doesn't see a problem with this build?
Pretty darn close to my own personal build.
Page wouldn't load for that monitor but I'm assuming a 1440p. At that point I don't blame him for using that much graphical power if he's playing AAA titles l@1440p/144Hz.
>>51679602
Shit build to be honest family.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8Db37P
Around the same price from rough calculations, and will perform a lot better than that system, with an M.2 SSD.
You almost certainly don't need 16GB of RAM unless you're running like 4 VMs at once and video editing on each of them.
>>51679602
PSU is fine.
Heatsink, the Corsair H55/60 is on sale for like 40$ right now on New egg (unless that ended). it'll take up a 120mm fan slot.
>>51679602
Literally almost my build except I would only get 8gb of ram.
>>51679704
>Going Skylake CPU
>Enjoy your bent CPU
>>51679710
The 212 evo is better and risk-free.
Im rocking 4,4GHz @1.25V and temps dont go above 72C.
>>51680403
Literally only been proven to happen with manufacturer, which was B-Grade at best and mounted with bracket deformation rather than superior springs.
You fell for the meme son.
>>51680432
>implying a Cooler Master 212 isn't a one way trip to bent city
No but seriously I just caught the biggest white tail spider I have seen in my life crawling across my wall and I snatched it up in a jar but now its really angry and I have to take it outside but seriously this thing is huge I need advice anon should I just take the lid off the jar and run away like a girl or should I put the jar on its side so it can crawl out preferably away from the house
>>51680446
White-tails are scum of the earth, pour lighter fluid into the jar and chuck a match in.
Those fuckers are the worst.
>>51680446
>white tail spider
cum on him
post pics
>>51677528
You can't scout around at Lowyat itself?
Guess I'll post what I'm planning on buying.
A friend that really loves building computers recommended most of this, but the case and fan have been changed. He also thinks I should get 16GB, for "future proofing." Sounds kind of like overkill but I do tend to browse with like 25 tabs open while gaming.
Anyways, how's it look? Good idea? My paycheck just came so I'd like to get it started as soon as I can.
>>51682136
Gonna recommend the same build I gave the other guy earlier, the 390 will be better dollar for dollar compared to the 970. If you don't want AMD or whatever feel free to get the 970 but watch out for the 3.5GB frame buffer limit when gaming past 1080p or with really high res textures.
You don't need 16GB even for what you're saying, I play with 25-30 tabs open all the time and I only get to 6GB used, you'll be fine.
The case you're getting is a budget case, get something decent when you're spending that sort of money.
It's kind of a waste to get a WD Black as secondary storage.
SATA SSDs are deprecated now, join the M.2 Masterrace.
The U12S is a good cooler, if a bit pricey.
Your mobo is way to expensive for what it is.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TvYkpg
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wqwJcf
I've built an HTPC out of some parts I had laying around from other systems. I bought the case and mobo.
Will this be enough to view and stream at 1080p? I mean if a Roku can do it surely an i3 with the integrated GPU can right?
Is there anything wrong or suboptimal with using a Intel Core i5-4590?
Not interested in overclocking, but just something to play games on. It seems to be pretty good for it's price. My local microcenter has it for $160.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3frNdC
Good to go?
>>51682201
>You don't need 16GB even for what you're saying, I play with 25-30 tabs open all the time and I only get to 6GB used, you'll be fine.
Sounds good. I thought it sounded completely against everything I had read so far (I'm a networking student but this is my first build and hardware is all greek to me).
>The case you're getting is a budget case, get something decent when you're spending that sort of money.
I...actually already bought the case. My original plan was to just buy it piece by piece as I could afford it. Maybe I'll return it when it arrives.
>It's kind of a waste to get a WD Black as secondary storage.
How come? Price? Though I'll definitely swap it out for that 2TB.
>SATA SSDs are deprecated now, join the M.2 Masterrace.
Benefits? It's faster, I'm guessing? *google* 4x faster than SATA, got it.
>The U12S is a good cooler, if a bit pricey.
That's what I've heard. I'm not sure if I wanna overclock yet but I'd like to leave the option open for it. (hence the 6600k)
>Your mobo is way to expensive for what it is.
I've been wondering about that. How important is the mobo in that regard? As long as it has all the connectors the components need it should be good, right? It's not like a xX420EXTREMEXx mobo would have any extra benefits aside from what it might support or have slots for?
Sorry for all the questions, super nervous, first build, wanna make the best I can and I'm trying familiarize myself with the whole building process.
i5-6600k
i5-4690k
Xeon E3-1231 v3
Which one should I pick if I don't want to upgrade my CPU for the next ~5 years?
>>51682502
Considering that you can't overclock, the CPU cooler looks a bit expensive. And a 500-550W PSU is enough. I also recommend getting a better monitor, you stare at it for hours.
>>51682671
Would a cryorig m9i be better then? I don't really like the looks/noise of the stock cooler. That PSU right now is pretty cheap and I'd rather go for it in case I need the power in the future, right?
>better monitor
What's wrong with that one? My needs for one are : IPS, 1080/60@23-24'', matte coating and VESA mounting.
Also did I choose good RAM? I read on reddit that 2666/15 DDR4 is the same speed as 1600/9 DDR3 so i chose based on that.
>>51682627
Higher clocks with the i5 but more threads on the xeon so depending on what you're doing or if games can take advantage of more threads like battlefront. I just bought a 1231 myself, love it.
Plus side to the 6600k is newer and if the next batch of cpus are significantly better (which seems unlikely) you can upgrade.
Can i still upgrade this pc, to be better at video editing (after effects, nuke, maybe some C4D), to run newer games at 1080p 60, or should I just replace everything except the fairly standard looking case? It's like 5-6 years old, and I bought it used 4 years ago. Can't even play fallout 4 on lowest everything, and After Effects just runs totally poorly.
AMD Phenom II X4 B55
ASRock 970 Extreme 3
2x4 GB Ram
Radeon HD 5830
Be Quiet! 400W psu
tl;dr Can i ugrade this for 1080p 60fps/Video edit.
>>51682811
New gpu, new psu to support gpu, and 8320 assuming that's an am3+ board
What HDD's are recomended, i've been using basicly 1x500GB and 1x250GB Seagate HDD's for almost 7 years, got no clue on what kind of drives are reliable now.
>>51671161
Why not skylake or xeon 1231?
>>51682921
hitachi & toshiba > WD > everything else
>>51682921
WD Caviar Blue
>>51682991
>>51682947
Thanks mane.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/lstpanda1996/saved/XTsNnQ
My first build I kinda feel confident in but I would appreciate advice if I did something wrong
>>51683132
You don't need 16GB of RAM. Get a cheaper case, spending anything more than $110 is excessive to me. You don't need case fans, at any rate the case you buy given it's from a good brand will have case fans. Ditch the external storage, the 970, and network adapter. I'm guessing your budget is 1500?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Xcnxpg
There you go. Now you have yourself a 980Ti. I'd recommend you get a 4590 if you don't want to OC, and use the savings to get a click-clack. But that's just me.
Are there any advantages of R9 390X over 390 if its £40 more? Is it worth it?
>>51683386
The 390 is a 290 on steroids, whereas the 390X is a 290X on steroids. That's really all the info I can give you. But for 40 pounds more, I'd get the 390X.
>>51682283
Yes. Get it. It's only slightly worse than the 4690k and significantly cheaper.
>>51683401
I mean is the 40 pounds more definitely worth it even if the 390 may be good enough? Is the 390x that much better? (First build)
Also, both of these are sapphire which I have been told run the coolest?
i3-6320 or i5-4460?
They're only a few dollars apart and I'm choosing between an H110 DDR3L board or an H85 board.
Did I do well /g/? Christmas build for my 13 y/o nephew. It'll be his first time gaming on a PC.
>>51683845
4GB on 960 is useless senpai.
>>51683868
How come? I thought games were quickly moving into 4GB territory in the next couple of years... Like my 770 2GB struggles with a game like Witcher 3 because of the textures but a 4GB 960 has no issue with it.
>>51683845
How skilled would you say our nephew is with computers? Do you think he's capable of building his own computer or upgrading it? If I were you, I'd get a better case that's easier to work with, even if it's a bit more expensive. I've heard that case isn't horrific, but it has a lot of minor issues that are annoying.
>>51684264
His computer skills are at zero. As in, I'm going to have to teach him how to install Chrome. He's 14 in 3 months and apparently everyone else in his year is about the same proficiency with a computer.
I blame iPad's.
Is this a good build for a minecraft machine?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JqKvXL
It's for my lil bro, he plays Minecraft on my mom's tablet but he wants his own PC. I will also give him an old 720p TV and some peripherals.
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
What are the advantages to buying a pre assembled mobo/cpu?
I've never built PC before, should I just stop being a bitch and learn by building it myself?
>Find cheap r9 380 online at some cheap store in black friday
>Few units left
>149€
>Order it
>Still have no news about it
Man,
I might not find an r9 380 for that price again. Fuck these people for real. Now I'm GPUless unless I go for a 370.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zYVkpg
Lost my first workstation/gaming machine while mining the doge to an accident that could have been prevented. X58 I7 960 2x gtx580 2x gtx780. fell back onto a Q6600/9750 diet for over a year. Intel and nvidia planning to launch hardware updates in the next 4 months?
anything for a poorfag like me top is 500$
Do AMD processors have integrated graphics? I want to know if I can buy a motherboard and CPU right now and then order my GPU later in the year when I get more money.
>>51685375
Find a used i5-2500k PC on craigslist or ebay for $200 or less, then buy a $200 graphics card and a $70 PSU. Boom.
>bought a R9 390
>550W Psu
>shit overheated
>burned
>fucking exploded
so what're the chances that I burned my mobo/GPU/RAM/cpu as well?
>>51685423
They are called APU and for the most part they are on the lower end spectrum in terms of performance. While the iGPU of the APUs are better than Intel's offerings the CPU part of the APU are subpar compared to Intel. My advice if you can't get money for a good GPU is to buy an intel CPU with iGPU.
>>51685497
No other way than to try with a different PSU
back in 2008 I had that happen to me and I replaced the PSU and nothing else was fucked.
>>51685497
Shit really? What brand? I'm getting a 600w for my 390
>>51685516
Okay, that's what I thought. Thank you. Guess I will have to wait another month to assemble this rig then.
>>51685559
Just a shitty no name brand.
Never again.
>>51682504
>I...actually already bought the case. My original plan was to just buy it piece by piece as I could afford it. Maybe I'll return it when it arrives.
That's fine I guess, buy a computer when you can afford all the parts because it's useless up until then and parts get cheaper/products get launched.
>How come? Price? Though I'll definitely swap it out for that 2TB.
They're intended as a boot drive, more expensive than Greens or Purples.
>I've been wondering about that. How important is the mobo in that regard?
Connectors, chipset, form factor, all you need. No point in spending more money than you have to.
>As long as it has all the connectors the components need it should be good, right?
Pretty much
Will I find a better deal for a good i5 than a 4590 for $175?
How does this build look for 1080p gaming?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Qwc9kL
>>51683132
I'm not a fan of diminishing returns on computer builds, get what you can comfortably afford and upgrade later, however, there's plenty of wiggle room in this build to upgrade to a 980 or 980Ti if that's your thing, I don't really care about your peripherals, it's mainly personal choice, but don't get extra fans, you don't need them.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8Db37P
This build is miles ahead of the other guy in most places except the GPU.
>>51684646
Build it yourself if you do want to be jewed out of $100 or so and get fucked with promoted products.
>>51685265
No hardware updates but what sort of retard needs that much RAM? How can you multi-task that much?
>>51685775
Depends where you're from, the 6600K isn't that much more.
>buy a computer when you can afford all the parts
Will do.
>Connectors, chipset, form factor, all you need. No point in spending more money than you have to.
>form factor
So form factor won't actually affect performance, right? A mini atx will work the same, it just /can/ fit in a mini case if I wanted it to?
One more thing, from PCPP:
>Compatibility Notes
>The motherboard M.2 slot #0 shares bandwidth with a SATA Express port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA Express port is disabled.
That's not a big problem, is it?
ayo famfam can someone post those graphs of all the graphics card scores? like >>51676857 but with lots more
(or at least tell me where to look for them)
>>51685953
I'm in the US but not really looking to get different RAM (as I have it already) and motherboard for the socket as that would up the overall price
