Official Thread #045 : The "Black Friday Aftermath" Edition
Post your purchases below!!!!!!
Good Evening,
It's about time we consolidate graphics card discussion to reduce unnecessary thread clutter on /g/. Let's keep the shilling to a minimum.
Direct any and all questions regarding Graphics Cards and Display Adapters here first, including purchase and sale questions:
Use >>>/g/gcg/
For non-related questions, link to find the stupid questions thread:
>>>/g/sqt
In the news:
>Nvidia prepares the launch of its 960Ti super Price/Performance bracket card for the holidays:
http://techfrag.com/2015/11/26/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-ti-specs-leaked-will-launch-in-the-coming-weeks/
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/39343-nvidia-working-on-geforce-gtx-960-ti
>TweakTown: "AMD says the across the board price drops were not their doing." The world sighs in disappointment:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/48683/amd-price-drop-gpus-doing/index.html
Post your fucking news links in the thread. Two or more sources is recommended.
WCCFTech is 100% shitposting without a second source.
Budget crown:AMD Radeon R9 380X
Perhaps the 960Ti will take this spot? Discuss!
Performance crown:Nvidia GeForce GTX 980Ti
Buyer Guides:
www.logicalincrements.com
www.pcpartpicker.com
Logical Increments happily accepts suggestions, comments, and criticisms.
Drivers:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Thankyou.
The original for the OC pic was already low quality. I couldn't find an uncompressed version. It doesn't look as bad when its bigger.
>kepler
Best looking card.
>>51590764
Do seXFX do any triple slot cards?
Daily reminder.
What are the advantages of getting a Radeon card of similar performance to a 970 instead of the 970?
>>51590796
Cheaper, will have better performance in coming years, better compute capabilities, Freesync.
>>51590796
-Won't get neglected next generation
-No faulty memory configuration (which will become a serious problem, there is no denying this. The card is fine for the time being, but it won't hold up for long)
That's about it.
>>51590813
>>51590804
seems fair, are Radeons cards of good quality compared to Nvidia ones? do they last? lets say i theoretically get a Sli of 970... do that memory problem of being 3.5 gig VRam still matters?
>>51590837
>good quality
Depends on who makes the actual card. But usually, aside from some very faulty series with Sapphire, and usually low quality from Asus, most are at least equally good.
>do they last
Aside from faulty series as said before, usually they do.
>SLI and VRAM
It will still matter, since SLI doesn't really change anything about VRAM.
Havent seen SQT thread so I am posting here.
I have been running into a problem here, after updating to latest Nvidia driver 359.00 I have been getting black screen out of nowhere with an audible error, has this happened to anyone else? may it be not only driver problem? faulty dvi I maybe. gpu/psu failing? My psu is 750w FSP Raider
Pic related my HW Monitor
>>51590854
>970
>Free Game
>Farcry 4 or Assassins Creed Unity
>>51590791
Buying Nvidia is very very similar to the definition of being a kekold.
Looking at the 780 and its current performance, and price at the time. The 780ti, the 980..
Looking at the 970 and how people who bought it were "angry" at nvidia, returning it to buy a 980 (a piece of shit that's now worse than a 290x).
>>51590837
>lets say i theoretically get a Sli of 970
Then consider the advantage of theoretically getting Crossfire 390(x)'s
>>51590854
>It will still matter, since SLI doesn't really change anything about VRAM.
oh fuck really? and here was i thinking "2 cards! thats 7 Gig VRam guys its finee!"
i'm gonna sell this card and get a 980ti as soon as i can then.
Thanks for answering all the questions.
My 570 just died
Do I get
980 for long term future investment
or
960 because I really don't need that much power
or
Do I wait a couple of weeks for good deals?
Money isn't really an issue except that I hate excessive spending
>>51590874
270x and up receive 3 free games from this list, and they are cycled out every few weeks.
https://www.amd4u.com/radeonrewards/
The 970 shitstorm may have died down for the moment, but give it 12-18 months, and it'll be back in full force as people complain that the latest AAA titles run like shit on their cards.
>>51590914
Everything under the 980ti is trash for the nvidia side, on the mid-high end you get more bang for your buck with amd
>>51590914
>980 for long term future investment
I bet 780ti owners thought the same.
Just wait a few weeks and see what comes up. Hell, or even bite the bullet and wait a few months for Arctic Islands and Pascal if you're that desperate for a long term investment.
>>51590940
this
>>51590930
>but give it 12-18 months
thats more than enough time to save money, sell the 970 and get a Titan X!
>>51590960
You shouldn't need to get a new card within 2 years of buying a higher end card like the 970. Unless you call yourself an "enthusiast"and insist on buying a new card every 6 months. In which case, you would never have had a 970 in the first place.
>>51590914
nVidia is better in top tier segment and absolute bottom tier. Everything in between is AMD territory in price performance ratio.
I'd say get something decent and fall for a waiting meme.
>>51590981
i got the 970 because i ran out of budget.
i'm not a hardcore enthusiast of performance, just want my games to be playable at 60FPS, honestly i don't care graphics that much, i had a 560ti for 4 years and the last 3 of those played everything on low.
>>51590914
The 980 is a terrible card to buy due its pricing. For a little bit more you get them onstrous 980ti. For the same money you get a fury which massacres a 980 and for a decent amount less you get a 390x, which is just as fast.
>>51590873
the best way to check for a faulty display adapter is to check the others on the card. As for a failing power supply, if you had a socket multimeter around you could test, but not may people do. Try rolling back to your previous version of the graphics driver?
And if your PSU was right-proper failing, you'd see other system instability.
>>51590914
Consider the 380X. Mighty GCN1.2 for $250. You get all 4GB, free sync, Radeon Crimson. Good DX12 support, ACE. And it'll probably be quieter, faster, and less bearing on your system than the 570.
have a look through logicalincrements.com
>>51591045
Yeah, I rolled back to old vers of drivers will see how it will hold up, those nvidia drivers cause more trouble than help
GTX 980 for $350
>comes in 2 days
>mfw
GTX 950 worth it?
Can a Seasonic S12II 520W handle a 280X or 380 and an i5 4460, or should I go with a 620W?
>>51591119
Lol fuck no
>>51591120
The 520 will be fine.
How necessary are 4 gigs of VRAM at 1080p these days?
Are 3 still good or should I start looking for something to replace my good ol 7970?
>>51591124
What would be a good budget card? Nvidia cheaper than AMD from where I'm from.
>>51591158
How much is the 950 in your area?
>>51591153
7970 is still going strong in my machine, so I'd say you're fine for the time being. Just drop some settings to keep the framerate up high. I usually turn water textures down and keep AA down below x4
what brands make the best cards? or rather what brands should I avoid? I hear Asus are bad, but are there any other shitty brands?
Also, 380 any good?
Unrelated, are Asus mobos good?
So for someone who is used to using an 860M with 4GB VRAM, would buying a 750TI with 2GB VRAM be a good purchase? Or should I go for 4GB?
>>51591163
$170
>>51591023
Why arent 980 priced like back in Gtx 280 release price.
>>51591440
"muh Nvidia" basically.
is the 980 really worth the extra 200€ compared to the 970 for 1080p gaming?
>>51591464
No.
if amd had g-sync i'd go with amd. but freesync sucks.
>>51591476
thank you
>>51591478
It sucks so bad Intel supports it. The harsh reality is what Intel supports becomes a standard - g-sync will fade into obscurity.
There's no point in better cards right now than 970 right when playing 1080p?
1440p and 4k gamers should just wait for Pascal or get AMD now for value
>>51591532
The 390 is already faster than a 970 at 1080p.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9cKZiJw6Pk&feature=youtu.be
>>51591440
It's a pity, because the 980 is a great card that's just way too expensive. The Ti is overkill for a lot of users
>>51591532
If you can find a cheap / used with warranty R9 290 it's still good competition.
>>51590873
update: still crashing with old drivers what's up with that? Guess my gpu is going to shit
>>51591855
Anything specific triggering the crash? As ever disable any overclocks.
>>51591640
everytime I get monitor problems the PSU is always the culprit
I bough an xfx r9 390 dd about a month back and couldn't be happier. Stays cool at idle and load. Maxes any game at 1080p 60fps and most at 1440p.
>>51591903
I only oc'ed cpu and thats it, really low OC 4,0ghz
The crashes are so random I can't really pin point anything. I have tried running old nvidia drivers still crashing.
What the fuck?
Anyone heard the new crimson bug?
It's apparently frying cards, I'm really fucking worried
>>51591996
something to do with keeping the fan at 20% constantly I think
>>51592044
>>51591996
Apparently it overrides some fan controls and it sets the fans at 20%, which obviously shoots up the heat a shitton.
There's apparently a bunch of fried gpus already, should I just do a clean reinstall with the past catalyst?
>>51592076
Might as well
>>51591996
>>51592044
Why can't AMD release fucking functional drivers for once
>>51591996
o-oh dear
Any sauce on that?
>>51591996
ayyyyy
>kills support for old cards
>kills rebranded cards as well
>>51591996
You just can't do anything right amd, I trusted you.
Now I'm scared as fuck.
>>51591996
>bug
People enabling shit without reading anything
>>51591996
lol people are reporting dead cards
what a shitfest
Can you still install good ol' catalyst?
>>51592103
>>51592144
>>51592098
i hate nvidia because they're greedy fucking shitstains
but amd is beyond incompetent
what the fuck do i do?
my card just broke. should I wait for new announcements in the 200-300 dollar region?
>>51592190
Make a new company and fuck them both by not being a complete jewish retard
>>51592144
People being retarded and enabling a fixed fan speed globally in overdrive is whats causing cards to die.
>>51592140
What's the enabled setting that causes this?
Just to be in the look out
>>51592276
Don't enable Overdrive/if it's to late set fans to 30%+ manual and than to auto
>>51592306
>>51592274
>open overdrive
>big ass fucking warning on the front explaining how and why it can cause damage if done outside any specifications
Uh what the fuck
Is this really what's causing it? What a bunch of fucking retards
>just when AMD was starting to get good rep after the >no drivers meme, they release drivers that literally kill your card
ayy to the lmao
>>51592336
They enable it without looking at any settings except muh MHZ
>>51592349
NO CARDS
NO DRIVERS
FINAL DESTINATION
>>51592306
>>51592336
what does overdrive do? cause obviously I don't think its intended purpose is the annihilation of thousands of cards
I'm getting a 280x soon and I want to know how not to kill it within 5 days
>>51592357
This is why ovewdrive doesn't deal in votlages - tards would deep fry their cards by instantly slamming max volts through it.
(this is why trixx is so dangerous - it allows +200mv by default)
>>51592385
It is the overclocking option for the drivers. Just read it and don't just slam every slider to max.
>>51592397
so if I'm gonna OC I should do it with another software like afterburner?
>>51592385
>>51592397
>>51592357
>>51592336
Theres apparently some people saying that they didn;t used overdrive and still got this issue.
Can't find the source but just a guy saying it, ill try to find them
>>51592426
If you're going to OC, you should take your time, and not slam every slider to Max.
Just roll back to the latest Catalyst until AMD fixes this bullshit
>>51592491
There's nothing to fix but the stupidity of children who don't understand the effects of overclocking.
>>51592517
Children going full retard with OC sliders is one thing, drivers setting your fans to low speeds is another story
>>51592491
No fix until next year
Poor cuks will get their black friday 390x tomorrow and fry the shit out of it.
AMD is legitimately finished now. Stock prices will tank below a dollar tomorrow.
What's with this new shit menu
Where do I find all the fucking stuff, literally
>>51592550
>>Poor cuks will get their black friday 390x tomorrow and fry the shit out of it.
If you OC it to the max without reading you deserve it desu
So I'm looking into getting an r9 390 but which one should I get? I like that the Sapphire Nitro has 3 fans, but it's long as fuck. Do those fans really make a difference or should I just go with one that has 2 fans, if so, which would be the best?
>>51592535
The fan speed control profile is changed once you enter Overdrive, and is set to what AMD judge to be a "Minimum safe speed", but that is without Overclocking taken into account.
Quite literally, the only problem is that these children don't understand what they're doing. They're all too eager to crank the Mhz right up, but don't bother even changing Fan speed.
>>51592567
Get off your high horse and look down.
Alright boys.
This question has probably been asked a million times already, but
GTX 970 or R9 390
I don't give a shit about power consumption because electricity is dirt cheap where I live. I want something that's quiet though, so that's why I'm leaning towards the ASUS STRIX 970.
If I have to get the R9 390, it would have to be a MSI or a Gigabyte version of the card.
The R9 390 is cheaper where I live, by quite a large margin, about 12% cheaper. I play games on 1920x1200. I just want something that can max out Witcher 3 at that resolution, and play some other AAA games until 12nm cards start coming out.
>>51592621
get the gtx 970. msi has the quietest model
Dammit, was ready to pull the trigger on a r9 380 for $180 for my budget build, but now it runs the risk of dying?
I'm not overclocking so am I good?
>>51592621
get a msi 390 or sapphire nitro 390, maxwell is gonna get gimped with the release of pascal
>>51592621
970, AMD drivers will kill your card.
>>51592643
>I'm not overclocking so am I good?
Correct, don't go playing with overclocking options like a retard and no problem.
>>51592621
Did they fix that 3.5 GB VRAM bug?
>>51592643
>>51592579
Just set fan speeds to auto in overdrive and its good senpai
>>51592643
>but now it runs the risk of dying?
Idiots killing their cards by overclocking is by no means a new thing. It's just with a new piece of software, every idiot clicks every button and sets every slider to max.
The drivers are not faulty, or we would see far more reports of cards being killed, but right now, all we see are reports from people who complain that their overclock killed their card.
which graphics card+ cpu+ mobo combo should I get to max out all games on 1080p at 60 FPS?
>>51592640
>end of 2015
>intentionally paying for less vram
>>51592573
It is the best cooler because it is a 3 fan monster with enough metal in the heatsink to die-cast a cannonball from. See also: PCS+
The gigabyte card is voltage locked which is an instant NYET from me. The two fan msi card is good because the fans are larger than most (the card is also pretty wide) and it has one fucking massive baseplate along with a huge heatsink to dissipate heat.
>>51592657
Its not a bug, its a design choice and CANNOT be fixed withotu redesigning the hardware.
>>51592657
No, it's not a bug, it's just how the card was designed.
>>51592652
I thought that was only if you are reckless with the overclocking settings.
>>51592649
Noted.
>>51592640
The strix isn't quieter with the 0db fan mode?
Thanks for your input, boys.
>>51592643
You can just use MSI Afterburner or anything similar and set a manual fan profile.
>>51592671
Any i5 + R9 390 +whatever mobo
>>51592679
What a deal breaker.
>>51592682
>I thought that was only if you are reckless with the overclocking settings
It is.
But it's a NewEbinMeme that people can shitpost. So expect to see it a lot. Honestly you can shoot it down pretty quick by just simple copy paste along the lines of
>Idiots killing their cards by overclocking is by no means a new thing. It's just with a new piece of software, every idiot clicks every button and sets every slider to max.
The drivers are not faulty, or we would see far more reports of cards being killed, but right now, all we see are reports from people who complain that their overclock killed their card.
>>51592701
Not defending this choice, but it's kind of hard to break 3.5 GB of VRAM usage on 1080p.
Anything above 1080p, the VRAM will definitely throttle performance a fuckload though.
>>51592687
>>51592668
>>51592662
>>51592656
Okay, thanks.
Glad to know there's hope and I don't have to settle for the 960 that is bottlenecked on the 4GB model, and the 970 with muh 3.5
Will a PSU of 70% efficiency and 550W handle a R9 390 or should I get a new one?
I'm not planning on overclocking.
>>51592714
What do I do? WHAT DO I DO!?
(the gpu has no fans plugged into it as i'm using custom cooling)
So, are there any actual real life differences between Nvidia and AMD?
AMD seems to be stepping up their game by churning out new drivers lately, but I dunno how long that'll last.
Nvidia has been releasing drivers regularly for a long ass time, and I don't see them stopping.
So, when it comes to drivers, both companies seem to be doing a pretty good job today.
What about features and shit? TressFX vs PhysX, Gameworks and all that garbage? Does this shit even make a difference, or is it all just gunpowder for the marketing division?
My question is this; if the hardware is identical, would I see any actual real life difference between the software provided by the two companies?
I broke down and got a gtx 980ti
http://m.newegg.com/Product?ItemNumber=14-487-142
How bad did I do :(
>>51592768
550W should be more than enough
>>51592783
How much did you pay?
>>51592770
>the gpu has no fans plugged into it
Well there's your problem.
>>51592783
Good for now, but the card is going to be slower than a 290x in 1 year.
>>51592794
$570 total
>>51592770
Its dead, Jim.
>>51592682
>I thought that was only if you are reckless with the overclocking settings
Nah that's just shit tier damage control. The software is doing it by itself.
>>51592682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmiVf9cmA9I
Is the best $200 card the 380?
>>51592800
Heh. While my claim is technically true the fans are plugged into a fan controller.
>>51592808
fffffffffffuck. Hold me anon.
>>51592802
Figured if it was getting close to out dated I could add another... I guess we'll see if and keeps pushing
![Natalia+has+a+porn+star+look+alike+abigaile+johnson+you+re+_d4b8e41e89fca4a3d1b5ff698053a147[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/d7bkybL.jpg "Natalia+has+a+porn+star+look+alike+abigaile+johnson+you+re+_d4b8e41e89fca4a3d1b5ff698053a147[1].jpg")
>>51592788
Why do I see 600W PSUs recommened everywhere for this card then?
Also, when upgrading from my 7870 which uses the same drivers, will I have to do a clean install of the same drivers or just plug my new 390 in and play?
>>51592810
Why is my card not fried then?
>>51592770
>49°
It's already overheating, get a nvidia the way its meant to be playedTM card right now
>>51592819
Oh fuck, thanks bro.
>>51592843
People talking shit, the system wont use more than 450W max.
Do a clean install with DDU.
I just bought a 970 for $410
Tell me what an idiot I am
>>51592937
keked
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>>51592876
>Do a clean install with DDU.
Why would he need to do that?
These cards both use the same drivers, retard.
>>51592770
>custom cooling
>49c
fail
>>51592955
>confirmed for never changing a graphics card
based retard
>>51592860
I tried but the internet threw this picture at me.
>>51592970
I said custom cooling, I didn't say water.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3up8r2/amd_bugged_new_drivers_killed_my_gpu_and_others/
IT'S OVER, AMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
>>51593011
>pcmasterrace
wewled
>>51593011
>5 hours ago
Legit
>>51593011
that's what happens if you give normies too much power over their GPU
>>51593011
>redditors btfo
All the better
Also fuck off
>>51593030
Look at his post history. He didn't oc. He installed the drivers and left it alone.
The other victims said the same thing.
>>51593069
>implying he is not lying because enabling overdrive rapes your warranty
User /u/Mufinz1337 from /r/AMD posted this temporary fix for now until AMD creates a hotfix.
http://imgur.com/a/o04Gl
Unfortunately, this will have to be done at every reboot. For whatever reason, the drivers default to the base 20% lock.
TOP KEK AMD FAGS
Regardless of whose fault it is that so many AMD cards are getting nuked, this will go down as another massive fuckup in the history of AMD drivers, even if it has more to do with consumer retardation than with AMD incompetence.
Nvidia must be laughing their asses off right now.
AMD HAS NO DRIVERS
>>51593115
It's a permanent 20% bug. It reverts to 20% after a reboot. It also disables trixx/afterburner fan control.
You can setup a custom fan curve and it'll revert back to 20% the next reboot.
Pretty sure that classifies as malware.
I was thinking about buying the 950, but now everyone tells me AMD is better at the 'poor fucker' price range
wat do?
>>51593069
He looks like a retard, desu Maybe he is lying so he looks less like one, the power of habit senpai desu
Got same card, never touched overdrive, everything is fine. So one anecdotal evidence for that case.
>>51593098
Hes saying his warranty already expired.
So for the real question... Ethernet or PCI?
Poorfag Cards with Poorfag Drivers
Neets BTFO
I've been using crimson for like 4 days now and played games on every single one of those days and things seem fine.
But I'm quite worried now.
>>51593142
Buy 7970/280x.
You can also save on electrical heater that way.
Seriously, got open case standing on the table with 7970 inside, putting arms close to it feels real comfy on cold winter nights. I'm not joking senpai
>>51593142
960 gets murdered by a 380.
>>51593190
I uninstalled that shit asap.
>>51593190
Sell it now and get a proper card with real drivers.
>>51593199
Lol wrong resolution. Statement holds true though.
>>51593204
is the latest catalyst still available at AMD's website?
>>51593204
There's no way it could be permanent right?
Like, if it did fucked up going back to the catalyst couldn't carry that, could it?
>>51593199
380 gets murdered by drivers
>>51593199
>>51593214
but the 960 doesn't fry itself
fuck off Rashid
>I had those settings by default, I enabled overdrive to see how the UI worked then disabled and left everything as it was before
So, this is how people from reddit "don't touch overdrive", yup. All is clear now. Shit with that defaul fan profile is fucking weird tho, who thought that would be a good idea?
>>51593232
>>51593234
Hey AMD has a long way to go - Nvidia has still released twice as many card frying drivers AMD has.
>Radeon R9 380 for $139 on Newegg
Is this the best budget card right now?
>>51593267
based retards dont know that you cant disable overdrive after enabling it
>>51593271
20/100
>>51593282
Yes, though ideally you want a 4gb version.
if I buy a 380, install it and let windows search for drivers what drivers will it download?
can i get rid of this crimson thing?
>>51593330
no you need to buy 2 because the first one is gonna overheat
>>51593330
You can also install crimson, don't enable overdrive and be fine. How about that?
>>51593139
Then why is mine turned off?
It seems people complaining never installed a driver properly.
>>51593387
Quiet down I think rajeet is trying to say something
The nvidia price cuts are great, I'm thinking I'm gonna pick up a 980. My current is 760 FTW, should I get my 980 FTW also or SC/SSC? The only difference I know about them is the way they dump heat. Any other major difference? I'm also using H100i cooling.
Also, do you think the deals will be better on "cyber Monday" or should I pull the trigger on this deal?
I'm gonna pull the trigger on a Sapphire Nitro R9 390 (upgrading from 560ti), if I encounter some driver bullshit fuckery within the next few months that makes me unable to play some new release or whatever i'm gonna be mad as fuck
If anyone has a hot deal on this card in europe let me know, i'm gonna go with scan otherwise
>>51593352
Why take the risk of using a malfunctioning driver?
I don't see the downside of using an old driver while AMD get their shit together and release a new version...
>>51592621
970 for sure
A 390 will just fry itself
>>51593492
Its a hassle to uninstall-install-reboot in the future. But whatever, you are welcome to do it.
Alright /gcg/ i need advice. So my 750ti borked after a measely 6 months and i'm having a hard time trusting nVidia again. I have been thinking about various options for my next GPU
>option 1. Get new 750ti from warranty, use it for a while and save money in the meantime then sell it Q1 2016 for flagship shekels
>option 2. Same as option 1, but switching out the 750ti for a r7 370
>option 3. Return 750ti, hunt for a used r9 280 and sell it q1 2016 for flagship shekels
>option 4. Return card and suffer on a ps4 until 14nm cards drop
>option 5. Return 750ti, buy current flagship card
Tldr: gpu shit itself wat do?
>>51593632
Buy AMD card, be a retard and fry it. Never trust any of the GPU companies in the future.
What a priceless life lesson that would be.
>>51593282
No, get a 960 that won't fry itself to death
>>51593632
How did you fry the card?
>>51593632
Option 1 desu senpai
>>51593632
Option 2, but swap the shit-tier suicidal 370 for a better 950 or 960 that's on sale.
There is no reason why anyone would buy a 370 unless they want an outdated card that will burn itself to death.
>>51593387
Most likely they straight installed without doing a full uninstall of the old catalyst drivers / beta drivers.
I'll have to test it, but I'm sure this is the problem because my R9 290 is working just fine and not reverting after a clean out of the old driver and installing the new. But for me, that's common practice.
It could also be a compatibility issue between third party software like afterburner.
>>51593727
That's the fun part, i did jack shit to the settings other that upped the power limit and adjusted the automatic fan curve to kick in earlier in afterburner...
>>51593768
Even then, I didn't bother removing the old drivers and it's still working fine. Then again I also went through all teh settings and tested them all out, even the fan settings work if on manual or auto. Unless they didn't have default settings in the old install and it picked up a bug from that I suspect it's entirely user error.
>>51593821
Were you using Beta or Standard release drivers prior to update?
>>51591255
No one?
>>51593852
15.7.1
15.8beta
15.9beta
In order, haven't bothered to do a driver wipe on this install yet. Only bug I've noticed in crimson is the gpu not dropping to 300mhz idle when I up the power limit.
>>51593854
>>51591255
How to spot the guy who has no idea what he's talking about.
Get the 2gb retard.
>>51591532
>>51591023
Why isn't the 390 on there?
>>51593921
Most likely answer is they have not reviewed one.
>>51591532
im sure fury x and 980ti handle 1440p just fine.
>>51593902
That is an interesting bug. Is it scaled in anyway to the standard 150mhz idle and standard power output? The baseline could be getting adjusted with it.
I was using the 15.11 Beta before I did the wipe and still have the installer. I'll test it out and then try an install of afterburner.
Not too worried about the card, getting 2 Fury X's tomorrow anyway.
Any anon using the 15.11 Beta Prior to Crimson having the issue?
>>51594014
I actual can't recreate the bug, maybe have been a one off thing. Mine's always idled at 300mhz, never down to 150.
Anyway just did some quick furmark testing and fans kicking in to stop it going above 80deg, dropping to 27% fan speed when no load and slowly cooling down. Manual fan overrides in openHWM working as well.
All I can do now is laugh at AMD.
Nvidia always give them a chance to get back in the market and AMD always fucks it up. The recent blunder with Crimson is the cherry on top. I fucking hate Nvidia and their horrible business practices but AMD is just so fucking incompetent.
Hi guys, I'm currently on an old card (GTX550) and I'm considering a new one.
Should I get a 380x? Or wait for Arctic Islands?
Thanks!
>>51594174
We need Samsung or Intel to enter the GPU Market.
>>51594114
On my laptop now, and posted the same question in the other thread, time to get uninstalling and reinstalling... twice. Fun times ahead.
Upgrading to 980. Is there any noticeable difference between FTW, SC and SSC other than the way the heat is dispersed? I have H100i cooling
>>51594216
If you can wait 18 months do so, if you can't then a 380x is a solid choice right now.
>>51594220
Intel tried and it was a disaster (knight's landing iirc).
>>51594301
>18 months
You're fucking delusional. They're just over half a year away.
Also you remember half incorrectly, the name was Larrabee and it was indeed fucking trash.
Knight's landing isn't even out yet, officially.
>>51594366
>They're just over half a year away.
I'd habeeb for the low volume flagship models but I anticipate the high volume mid range cards (which if one is considering a 380x thats where their budget sits) to take slightly longer.
That Crimson bug reminds me of that one driver which fried NVIDIA cards after overclocking them
It's even funnier though because you don't even have to OC your card this time, it can happen while simply playing games
>>51594406
You do have to turn off automatic fan control though.
So uber-poorfag here, whats the cheapest video card that won't break after 2 months of playing videogames? don't care about high graphics, just the usual 1080p and 30fps.
thanks.
>>51594216
Why do girls wear almost nothing and wonder why men ogle them and make passes at them?
>>51594220
I'm hoping Samsung or qualcomm joins the market, but hell will freeze over twice before either one of them even considers the idea.
>>51594517
Considering nVidia pushes shit
and AMD pushes shit
it cant be hard to take over the GPU market
Here's what I built with Black Friday purchases. The $0 were combos.
Be gentle.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qz2jdC
>be here earlier
>people were saying oh yeah AMD crossfire beats everything fuck yeah! fuck gtx
>come back to check thread
>AMD is frying cards
???? , so... now what?
>>51594544
>it cant be hard to take over the GPU market
It's not a matter of how hard it is (and yes, it's actually pretty fucking hard if you're just stepping into an already established market), it's a matter of if you will be able to make a healthy enough return on your investment for it to be even worth it.
There is a very good reason why Nvidia is expanding their product line outside of consumer GPUs. It's not the moneymaker that it used to be a few years ago.
>>51594561
>buying Windows 10
>>51594504
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4GH3396553&cm_re=gtx_660-_-9SIA4GH3396553-_-Product
You can play games on 60fps here on medium settings with 1080p
>>51594594
It doesn't help that they're losing consumer confidence left and right with the way they're doing business.
Nvidia because of shady practices and AMD because of incompetence.
They may make console gamers of many people.
>>51594602
seems like a good deal, but if thats the cheapest it can go i'm fucked(taxes here bring this card up to 240 USD
thanks anyway.
i found a GTX 740 of 2GB for 108 USD, how good is it? 1080p on low?
What card will I need for Planetary Annihilation?
>>51594504
I played the Arkham games (not including Knight) on a 5 year old GPU with 512 MB of VRAM, Intel i3, and 4 GB RAM. I had to set the settings to Low. It played Fallout 3 and New Vegas on Ultra at 720p. Half-Life 2 at 1080p with everything maxed out. Played a bunch more games on it too. Just ask me.
Most games I had to play at 720p, but it still looked better than Xbox and was way cheaper in the long run. I bought a lot of games for $4.99 or less on Steam. Sometimes I got them for $1 on Humble Bundle.
No regrats.
Here's a great starting point. Let the community help you improve it:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GCvFjX
>>51594736
I've been playing everything on my 560Ti still. I haven't tried any brand new games though.
I think I'll install the first reboot Tomb Raider game and give it a go and see what happens. If I remember right, that game is pretty graphic intensive.
I did play Witcher 2 with no problems, that game still looks great. Witcher 3 would probably have to be set pretty low though.
>>51594785
had a 560ti, it runs everything new on low just fine, GTA V, Witcher 3(well "fine" means never over 33FPS), Battlefront beta everything on low perfectly fine.
>>51594785
Ah, sorry. Thought you were looking to get into PC gaming.
>>51594725
What games are you planning to play anyway?
Im on GT630
Playing dota 2 on medium settings 1080p
>>51594785
I played Tomb Raider on Low with the build I mentioned here: >>51594736
>>51594508
>Implying woman don't like to be admired
you just can't be a creep though
>>51594859
all kind of games between 2010 and today if possible.
>>51594819
I played Battlefront on medium settings just fine, at least the beta did.
>>51594842
Dunno who you think you're talking to but I was just talking about how these old cards still got some legs. I am looking to upgrade but to hell with this current market. If anything an R9 390 might be what I go for.
>>51594889
Is looking away as soon as she makes eye contact with you considered creepy?
>>51595006
probably, considering you must be pretty ugly
>>51594725
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125776&cm_re=amd_260-_-14-125-776-_-Product
How bout this one specs are around 1.5-2x better than 740
>>51595039
oh thats a good one, not much more expensive than the GT740 but it does look better.
>>51595039
Performs close to a 750 Ti, not too bad but if you can find a 750 Ti for the same price or cheaper go with that.
Who's got theirs already? I wanna see these installed in a case.
>>51595039
AMD Low end cards can compete against Low end Nvidia.
When it comes to high end noise, heat, power consumption goes way out of hand, wish they can improve on that.
Guess Im going to buy AMD as a quick fix card if my High end Nvidia dies and a new series will be sold in a few months
>>51595297
I got the EVGA Hybrid 980Ti.
No picture tho my case = closed.
Why doesn't this work? it won't tell me the age even though I gave it a value.
>>51595332
I considered those but they are reference PCB, right?
So, can we all agree that moving forward sli and crossfire are obsolete now? The two biggest pc release this year, tw3 and fo4, are poorly optimized for dual gpu's and the developers today just don't give two shits about dual gpu's optimization. Always stick with one gpu.
>>51595349
ops wrong thread
>>51595371
Is it bad if they are ;_;
>>51595394
It's just going to be limiting in some situations where you will be hitting the TDP limit.
>>51595320
>AMD Low end cards can compete against Low end Nvidia.
not really, the 970 is $200 on b-stock now and creams everything AMD has
AMD cooking their cards and setting houses on fire. They literally can not catch a break.
>>51595431
> b-stock
Yeah nice argument
>>51595431
>cites refurbished/used card
>flat ignores the possibility of used/refurb AMD cards
That's it I'm never buying AMD.
>>51595431
Are you retarted?
Go jerk off to your ego stroking graphs
>>51595531
there are no refurb AMD cards at the $200 price point that would compete with a factory OCed 970 though
>>51595554
>Go jerk off to your ego stroking graphs
facts are hard for shills like you
I'm about to take the r9 380 out of my cart after reading this thread.
Fucking hell
>>51595580
There's literally a $200 r9 290, brand new
>>51595580
You can get used ones though.
>>51595594
The power of Nvidia's legion of shills has got to you eh?
>>51595431
nice shill site senpai
>>51594174
AMD is going to be in deep shit if Nvidia improves their lower end cards. AMD always has owned the budget card area but if the 960 is any indication of what nvidia has planned then AMD is fucked.
>>51595628
Unshill me senpai
>>51595644
1) It is idiots who can't read and are globally setting a fixed fan speed
2) You can always use the previous drivers until it gets fixed
3) the 380 is the faster card than the 960 on the older drivers anyway
>>51595628
>>51595617
>$200 reference 290
it won't perform near where a factory OCed 970 performs though, which is what you'd get from b-stock
the OCed 970 performs on par with a stock 980 or a 390x, not even close to where AMD would give you without paying more
>>51595633
>Nvidia has good budget cards
>960 that bottlenecks on the 4GB model
>970 with "you'll never use that much vram"
Baka desu senpai
