Help me find the best Chasis and Cooling solution for this setup /g/
As you can see, it's a mid-range setup with not extra fancy components but not all arround cheapest shit available.
General critic and advice also more than welcome.
>>51579330
Your gonna get a lot of flak for that SSD
>>51579330
>seagate
>>51579330
>Kingston
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184253-ssd-shadiness-kingston-and-pny-caught-bait-and-switching-cheaper-components-after-good-reviews
>>51579330
why do you want 16GB? you aren't going to be doing anything more intense than gaming
>>51579330
>intel
OP here, thanks for the replies.
I'll be sure to change the Kingston SSD for a Samsung 850 EVO
>>51579594
I work as a graphic designer, so I use a lot of Adobe stuff
>>51579627
then why would you get an i5?
>>51579330
2gb 980?
get either a evga 970 ssc or just a straight up 980 ti.
I would cheap out on ram(kingston fury 2133 2x8gb ddr4) and cpu(6500) and would put the extra money in a better gpu or probably just get a 970 and save the money.
I would get a nice cpu cooler like a be quiet! dark rock 3, I dont see that on your list.
I recently got a Fractal R5 case, I can recommend it. Really silent and good airflow.
>>51579635
I would love to get a 6700k i7 anon, but the sad truth is that I can't afford it ;_;
Should I get an older i7 instead of the latest i5?
>>51579685
yes. should also clear up some money on ddr3 instead of 4.
the progression from sandy bridge to skylake is so miniscule that unless you have a really good reason to buy it i would recommend you not to, if money is a problem
>>51579757
Thanks anon, it seems I'll have to start all from the beginning.
Do you have any suggestions for motherboard and CPU?
>>51579330
Your PSU is underpowered for a GTX 980, get a 620W PSU.
Get an R9 380 and a cooler, then you can overclock that thing.
You need a 600w psu.
>>51579886
>620W
u wot m8?
>>51579925
Whats wrong?
Seasonic S/M12 are good PSU, EVGA GS 650W is good too.
>>51579840
well if you are willing to buy the cpu used, go look on craigslist or something. haswell should be cheaper now that its a generation behind
4770K is around the same performance as the 6600K and you get all the i7 features, and it goes for around £130
on ebay
motherboard is probably the same thing. i am not sure if compatible motherboards are still sold new.
>>51579999
Should I get a K model for overclock? Am I safer just buying a regular CPU and staying out of overclock?
I've never done it and I'm not sure if this is the time to start or better just stay out of it
>>51580092
you can buy K models without overclocking
Should I build my PC around an i5-4690k Haswell or an i5-6500 Skylake?
I can find the Skylake for almost $20 less than the Haswell. But then the cost of the RAM goes up...
>>51580173
wanted to add to this post that I don't overclock. I might someday, but up til now I've never wanted to.
>all of those expansive parts
>fucking bronze 500 watt PSU
OP get a fucking gold, 650 watt PSU.
>>51580173
Idk where you live but Fry's is having a sale on 4690k's today. Got mine for $170, but it's for in-store pick up only.
>>51580173
There's an awesome deal on the 4690k right now if you got a Fry's nearby
http://www.frys.com/product/8125515
Get a i7 4790K with a Z97 mobo, you can OC it to near 6th gen i7s performance, get a coolermaster 212 cooler with it
If money's tight, you'll get better bang for buck with an AMD gpu atm
>>51580231
>>51580235
Thanks guys, and I did see that before, but it's too far away; I'm in Spokane and Fry's is 4 hours away near Seattle. The savings are not worth an 8 hour drive for me.
But I saw in benchmarks that the stock 6500 scores pretty much the same as the stock 4690k. Anyone got an i5-6500? How is it?
Help me out here, trying to build an easy to upgrade pc, is my graphics card fine if I don' care about pushing 1080p to the absolute max?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Nc9wdC
>>51580173
take the 6500 if you don't oc
OP here, how about this changes?
Still not sure on which motherboard and case should I get
>>51580310
>No link
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vjBFvK
>>51580310
>>51580336
>budget build
>62$ liquid cooler
Get a CoolerMaster 212 and be done with it m8
>>51580399
I'd hardly call this a budget build, it's getting pretty high end.
He may as well go all the way and get an NH-D15
>>51580399
Thanks anon, this will be my first build so I don't know how much ventilation is going to be enough.
Changed the NZXT Kraken for the 212 EVO
>>51580336
you're not going to overclock, follow his advice
>>51580399
otherwise you're just throwing money away
>>51579330
>Kingston
>4x 4GB RAM
why not 2x8? maybe you want to upgrade later.
>Seagate
yeah no.
>>51580485
>>51580474
Thanks for the advice anons, already made the changes.
In the OP I stated that this was a mid-range build, my budget is arround $1,200usd, of course if I can get enought for what I'll be using it for less money, it would be better
>been using dell studio for 7 years
>finally complete my build
>miss my laptop
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/BqWmwP
I still don't know what to do with the gpu, give me some recommendations.
OP here, how about the motherboard?
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97p
Built my first pc recently.
Whenever I save settings in bios the cpu temp readout shoots up from 55C idle to over 70 before I turn the pc off to be safe, goes back to normal after I turn it back on.
What's up with that?
>>51579673
You would seriously recommend a 970? Could you try and not be retarded for one moment? Thanks.
>>51580753
How much you looking to spend on the card? Usage? Games? Resolution?
>>51579539
It's only $25 with free shipping.
>>51580859
What's wrong with the 970?
Do you guys have a preference for cpu cooler types or brands?
I have a 4690k and am planning to get the GA-Z97MX mobo.
>>51580887
Just how it's less powerful and more expensive than it's equivalent, not even mentioning the 3.5GB meme.
>>51580874
Where? Only seeing around $40 on google.
Buying this in 4 weeks, is there anything that needs to be changed?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CdnpCJ
Everything will be ran stock (no overclocking whatsoever).
>>51580929
Screenshot for the lazy
>>51580911
Jet.com
Use promo code SAVE15NOW and get $15 off making the total $25. No tax + free shipping.
It's only 25 fucking dollars.
>>51580929
Why are you getting a CPU fan if you're not overclocking?
>>51581013
6700K doesn't come with a fan
>>51581018
lol what a rip off
>>51581041
>Having to spend $20 extra on a $420 CPU
Totally, dude.
>>51581063
lol it's suppose to come with the cpu. God damn Intel.
>>51581085
It's a CPU for enthusiasts, most of them already have a fan.
>>51580991
Shit that's cheap. Does the code expire soon?
>>51581063
You're also buying thermal paste for it. That adds up to an extra $26.73 you're paying.
>>51581134
You'd have to pay for the paste anyways.
And if the fan doesn't come with the CPU, I can guarantee you that the fan is still not free, it's just built into the price.
>>51581110
I don't know when it expires. The code is still working right now. Even if it's a gimped SSD, it's still a lot faster than a HDD. I'm going to put my OS on it and wait for SSD prices to drop before I invest in a better one. You can't go wrong with $25 here.
>>51579330
This build is poorly balanced and you're better off changing some components.
>Asus Z170
I've seen some bad reviews, might want to switch to Gigabyte or another manufacturer.
>Skylake
If you can afford it get it. You could save a lot of money here though. Maybe even get a i7 4790k + ddr3?
The i7 would help you a lot of you do more stuff than just gaming.
>GTX980
Bad price/performance. Only get this if you can get a really sweet deal. Otherwise either GTX 970/R9 390 or go all the way and get a 980ti.
>Dominator RAM
There is way cheaper memory that's just as fast. Only get these if you really like the aesthetics.
>Kingston SSD
Kingston tried to kuck it's customers. I suggest you get the Samsung evo 850. The 250GB version is really cheap right now.
>Seagate
I've had one for 3 years now and it hasn't failed on me yet, but a lot of people avoid Seagate. WD isn't all that better though so meh.
>Bronze PSU
Why overspend on almost every component and cheap out on the PSU?
EVGA's power supplies aren't bad in general but this is a cheap one. With the hardware in this build I'd get a better one just to be safe (gold rated).
Also get a beefier one while you're at it. You'll need more than 500w if you plan on overclocking that cpu, especially paired with a 980 which you might also OC.
Case is mostly personal preference. Just don't overpay for a l33t gaming ricer case and make sure it has plenty of room for cable management.
As for cooling; if you want to go cheap get the hyper 212 evo. If you want to keep temps low for overclocking consider getting a more expensive noctua cooler.
You could go water cooling but it isn't really worth the cost. Like the Dominator memory, you could do it for the looks.
Ok guys, OP here
After all the advice in this thread, I've come up with this, I'm just missing the case.
Am I missing anything else?
What do you guys think?
Is the RAM ok? Or should I go for G.Skill?
Am I going to have problems fitting the RAM with the Cooler Master 212?
Which case should I go for? Or which brands?
>>51581157
I'm sure the built-in price is a lot cheaper than what you have to pay for a aftermarket fan.
>>51580907
The 390 and 970 are really close performance wise. If you want to shill for AMD just say that Nvidea are a bunch of jews. Don't spread misinformation.
>>51581222
>$4500.76
>$4474.77
>>51581157
The stock Intel CPU fans have thermal paste on them.
>>51581041
>>51581085
If you buy a -K CPU and you even for one second consider using an Intel heatsink, you're fucking retarded.
It's like getting some $250 Z170 board meant for overclocking and SLI and then using it completely at stock with just a single budget-ass mid-tier GPU. Congratulations, you just wasted money twice.
>>51581157
>I can guarantee you that the fan is still not free, it's just built into the price.
This guy's got it right. If your -K CPU cost $420 without a heatsink, it would just cost $450 with.
>>51581181
I'm broke right now because of Xmas shopping but I'll grab one when I get more disposable cash if the promo is still going.
>>51581254
They do? My current 4770K didn't come with any... not that I remember...
>>51581205
Thanks anon, after considering all the advices now I've come up with this
>>51581208
Also, I just noticed I had the GTX 980 in my OP when instead I wanted the 960 derp.
>>51581208
You can get the 240GB model of that SSD for $5 more on amazon.
Which 390x is generally considered the best one? I'd figure Sapphire, right? I'm giving my younger brother my vapor x 280x for his birthday mostly as an excuse to buy myself a new GPU.
>>51581181
>>51581275
Oh and thanks for the info.
>>51581222
Actually no, not really, if you look at Intel's bulk prices, AND those Intel heatsinks are poor as fuck performers compared to even el cheapo aftermarket heatsinks. They're meant to be fairly small and light as to be able to do a "good enough" job in a variety of space constricted chassis.
>>51581250
Money well saved.
>>51581312
It makes no difference to me
>>51581285
>Also, I just noticed I had the GTX 980 in my OP when instead I wanted the 960 derp.
That explains a lot.
If the 380 is cheaper (which I think it is in 'murica) I think you should get that instead. ]
>>51581293
>Which 390x is generally considered the best one? I'd figure Sapphire, right?
MSI is doing pretty good at the moment. I'm not sure about Sapphire, they used to be the best though.
Also if the price difference between the 390 and 390x is huge where you're at, consider getting the 390.
The performance difference is quite small.
I recently upgraded from an 8350 to a 6700k, but I'm still using my crossfire (2) 280x setup. Is there a worthwhile upgrade, or should I wait for new stuff from AMD or Nvidia? Would any of the current single GPU flagships be a significant upgrade?
Want to build low power fileserver.
I have a Celeron g1610t and want a cheapish mobo with plenty of sata ports, at least 6, which isn't too hard to find and lowend onboard video.
Anything else I should look for in a motherboard? I won't be using raid either, just manually mirroring discs from another machine.
>>51581344
Yeah the price difference is about 100 bucks between the 390 and 390x. I'll go with the 390 then. Thanks for saving me some money bro
I am looking for a CPU cooler on this build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b2LpCJ
I would go 212 evo and other ones mentioned a lot but the case doesn't like any of those.
Is a 450 watt Seasonic 80 plus Gold enough to run a GTX 970 and a i5 6600k?
>>51581508
If you're trying to save money, don't buy a CPU fan. The stock Intel fan is just fine.
>>51581508
I'd go for a cheaper 380.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121963&cm_re=r9_380-_-14-121-963-_-Product
NZXT Phantom 410 yay or nay?
>>51581627
Cool thanks.
Is there a "sweet spot" for price/performance on AMD cards?
>>51581691
Right now the 380 is the sweet spot. Good for anyone new to PC gaming. That particular card is very good for the price.
finally gonna build a gaming desktop.
I wanted to take the new skylake stuff but my friend says I should go for last gen stuff since its way cheaper. (current build is around 1200€)
how is this setup?
could I run newer games like fallout4,syndicate etc. with that stuff on high settings?
i7 4790k
msi m3 gaming mainboard
msi gtx 960 4gig
16 gig ram
or should I invest in future proof build and go with a skylake i5-6600K?
also I do digital/graphic work
Going to a triple monitor set up so I decided to upgrade a few parts. Wanted to stay with AMD (have a 280), but the 290/390's TDP is too high.Outside the PSU is there anything else that needs to be changed?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qhzpCJ
Should I get a Super Flower power supply or has something better been made these days? It's been few years since I built my last computer and I'm out of the loop.
I could consider a Seasonic power supply as well.
>>51582214
Why did you buy 2 1TB HDDs?
>>51582249
For context, I'm looking for a 80+ Platinum power supply for a NAS.
>>51582270
I bought one about a year ago and then wanted one specifically for movies/tv/anime. Also if one HDD fails I'm not SOL.
>>51581386
>Is there a worthwhile upgrade, or should I wait for new stuff from AMD or Nvidia?
Depends, are you happy with the frames you're getting now? Those two 280x's should do fine in almost all of today's games.
There will always be better stuff on the horizon so don't wait forever, but next year is looking quite good. Your cards should hold you over just fine.
>>51581431
>Thanks for saving me some money bro
Np man, enjoy your purchase.
>>51581546
>Is a 450 watt Seasonic 80 plus Gold enough to run a GTX 970 and a i5 6600k?
No. You should get atleast 500w but it's better to get 600w+ just to be sure. Especially when you want to overclock.
>>51581691
>Is there a "sweet spot" for price/performance on AMD cards?
As mentioned the 380 is bretty good. The 390 is also a price/performance king.
>>51582152
Seems like you're in the same boat as op. A lot of advice given in this thread should apply to you.
>>51582214
>Outside the PSU is there anything else that needs to be changed?
Looks good to me.
>>51582249
>Should I get a Super Flower power supply or has something better been made these days?
Check this out. Basically any psu in tier 1 and 2 is worth getting (mostly Seasonic rebrands).
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
>>51581110
That SSD has been under $40 for ever, and its a really bad SSD.
Sandisk Ultra ll is way better for the same price.
Also more durable.
>>51579330
OP here, this is what I ended up after all this thread, final thoughts? or am I still fucking up in something?
>>51581546
No.
500W its enough and pushing it.
You should get a 620~650W bronze gold PSU.
>>51582635
EVGA GS 650W is a gold PSU that was better election than your current PSU.
Everything looks just perfect.
Hey guys can I get a hand too? I'm building a gaming pc and these are my parts the case is taken care of but the ssd not so much I wanted to be able to play gta 5, fallout 4 etc... on a decent to good fr and I want to be able to do some video editing on the side as well The budget was supposed to be 1200$ for the whole thing but I kind of went overboard... how does it look and is there anything I can add to better it (parts being bought in ontario canada)
>>51579594
>"You don't need more than X number of Ram powers!"
Any tips for aussies? First time building and im sure there's something i can do to lower the prices
>>51582635
>final thoughts?
Looking good family. Just a few things:
>i7 4770
The i7 4790 is slightly better and sometimes even cheaper for some weird reason.
>120GB 850 evo
The 250GB version is only like 10-20 dollars more if I'm correct.
>Bronze PSU
It has a higher wattage than the previous power supply you picked, but the quality is still sub-par.
Try looking for a gold rated psu. You'll have to spend a little more but it's worth it.
A bit further up I linked a thread from Tom's hardware forums where someone made a power supply ranking.
Definitely worth checking out.
But like I said it's looking quite good already.
>>51582724
the rest
>>51582724
Why couldn't you just take a screenshot?
Go to PCpartpicker.
>ASrock motherboard
You fucked up.
>I5-6400 instead I5-6500.
>That PSU for that Price
>>51580286
Yo.
Just go with Skylake. In 2-3 years you might want to upgrade that CPU to something with HyperThreading when you get the money. If you have LGA1150, then you wont have as many options. With Skylake you get LGA1151 which is the newest socket and will have better support in the future.
You can get i5-6500s for $250 right now, probably. Maybe more, maybe less. But they don't come with fans.
>>51580485
4x4gb > 2x8
4 modules > 2 modules
You probably get shit perf in your gaymans and other apps.
>>51581247
3.5 GB isn't misinformation, it's a fact.
>>51579673
You shoudn't give people advice on what -you- would buy, because you're not the person buying the PC and your needs don't match.
>>51582854
>4x4gb > 2x8
>4 modules > 2 modules
Literally what? Dual channel is better in this case.
>>51582724
>>51582757
>/v/ builds his first gayman PC
>>51582892
>3.5 GB isn't misinformation, it's a fact.
Not arguing it isn't. I said the 970 and 390 are very close performance wise.
The 390 has got more raw power but the 970 has better software support and lower power consumption.
Not shilling for either one, just stating facts. I'd still go for AMD though because I don't agree with nvideas business practices.
>You shoudn't give people advice on what -you- would buy
He is obviously talking in a "if I were you" type of way.
It would be different if he said "scratch everything, get 2 980 ti's and a 5960x, that's what I would do!" but now you're just acting like a dick.
Are you the same guy that posted this? >>51582832
Because that advise is pretty shitty too.
>Implying intel wont just make a new socket in 2-3 years which has even more options
>Future proofing meme
>>51583012
Better than suggesting he buy a 3 year old socket. I mean if he's gonna buy 2-3 years from now, at least LGA1151 will have the same options LGA1150 has now. But yeah, I "meme'd" at him. You got me, man. You fucking got me. Damn me and my "memes"
>>51582724
>>51582757
get a new monitor while you're at it
Right.
I can get a:
>980ti for $480
>980 for $375
>960 for $230
I'm using a GTX960 as is, and going to sell my 960 since it barely cuts it for 4k.
I don't game a LOT, so I don't need the max top-of-the-line card.
Keeping in mind stuff like anti-aliasing is gonna be mostly useless on a 24" 4k monitor.
Which is gonna be the best card? I'm partial towards the 970 just because it's so cheap, however the 980ti would be endgame in performance.
AMD isn't really an option in this scenario.
>>51583155
They were suggesting a $170,- i5 4690k. I'd take that over a ~$190,- i5 6500 anyday.
>But muh new socket
It has a few new technologies which are not interesting at all for the average consumer.
People are still doing just fine with on socket 1155 with 5 year old cpu's my memeing friend. 1150 still has some life in it I'm sure.
of course if you have the money go for Skylake, newer is better in most cases. But not if it means having to drop a tier.
>>51581415
Anyone
>>51583238
970 won't cut it for 4k
980 is bad value
980ti would be best but a waste if you don't game a lot
Your choice senpai.
>>51583238
It's not like you're getting a new GPU every year, might as well go for the best OR go with the 970 and wait a couple years for jewvidia to release a new card.
>>51583308
I don't know what to believe.
Via some crafty working with the drivers (disabling anti-aliasing mainly) you can get pretty impressive performance out of even a 960. Pic related, what I'm currently getting (at worst it usually dips into mid-30s.)
A 980ti will last me for a long time, but part of me knows I'm gonna blow my money on other shit anyways. I think I'll fork over the dough for a 980ti anyways, as I'm already getting a pretty great deal on these cards. A 970 I'll probably regret for not having enough performance, a 980 just seems like a shit purchase but the 980ti I'll probably be happy with. For now, at least.
>>51583500
Forgot pic. Downsized from 4k to meet filesize.
Save some $ buying haswell
>>51583500
>I don't know what to believe.
Well it depends on what game you play, if you want to play everything maxed out and also what your "minimum playable fps" is.
I'm sure the 960 and 970 can push those pixels around, but the 960, besides being too weak, will be bottle necked by it's 2gb vram and the 970 is just not powerful enough to maintain high fps in demanding games.
The 980ti can play almost every game maxed at 4k/60fps, and the rest too if you don't mind turning some stuff down.
$480 for a 980ti is fucking great dude. They retail for 720 euros here.
I say go for it. Great performance and the resell value isn't bad either so in the end you wont even lose the full $480.
Seems like a pretty sweet deal to me.
>>51583279
Yes, you're right. Get a 5 year old socket, and a five year old CPU.
Building a server for Plex, possibly other applications down the track. r8/h8.
Disclaimer: Australian prices
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Nc9wdC
My $600 build
I can go up to $650 if it means getting a better graphics card
>>51584089
That SSD is $40 on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Internal-240GB-2-5-Inch-SDSSDA-240G-G25/dp/B00S9Q9VS4
This HHD is cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desktop/dp/B004RORMF6/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&srs=2530774011&ie=UTF8&qid=1448762867&sr=1-9
>>51584159
>Disclaimer: Australian prices
>>51584174
Oh. I'm sorry you have to suffer terrible prices.
Is this budget pc good enough? my benchmarks are wolfenstein, shadow of mordor, and dragon age inq, and witcher 3 at normal/medium settings
>>51584228
Looks like shit, but if it's the best you can do, then it's the best you can do.
>>51582832
it costs $190 right now, though
>>51584248
if prices get low enough on monday I could maybe do better. what changes would you recommend? would i have to start over from scratch
>>51580092
Op. Upgrade the PSU and go Haswell E 5820K. It would suit what you are using it for (intensive multithreaded software) and you will never exceed the max PCI lanes with 1 card and it comes in around 299 at Microcenter
>>51579330
You may want to get a fully modular 80+ gold psu
>>51584025
>1150
>5 years old
K.
>H97/Z97 is little over a year old
>Oy vey, we better get the new Intel® Skylake® socket 1151® processor on the new Z170® chipset!
>>51584306
Seagate 1TB is a definite no-go.
I'd try going for an EVGA Gold PSU.
To be fair, outside of those two, the build is solid.
>>51583238
Why is AMD not an option?
A 390 would be perfect in your situation, at the price of a 970 but with 8gb vram for way better 4k performance
>>51584257
>Maybe more, maybe less
What is reading comprehension?
>>51584425
>Mentions 1155 in post
>"FIVE YEAR OLD SOCKET DUDE STILL GOOD"
>respond to it
>"NAW BRAW WAS TALKIN ABOUT 1150"
w/e man.
how is mine
I'm building for my bro, he said his budget was around $700
is a 1TB hybrid a bad choice for a primary storage drive?
>>51584089
Just realised I have a thousand empty cases sitting around. re-r8/h8
>>51584158
I wouldn't get the r9 380, shit card
>>51584564
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!?
ARE YOU BUYING AN INTEL SOCKET THAT'S NOT EVEN 3 YEARS OLD!?
>>51584526
Not him, but the TDP of the 390 is almost double that of the 970 so he may need to upgrade his PSU as well (adding to the cost of the card) if he was using a 960.
>>51579330
Tf 2gb 980?
>>51579330
Literally
>bsod the ssd
A lot of anons have brought this up, Kingston ssds are unreliable, their ddr4 is the best value/price though (especially their valueram 2133, which I have in my baby), btw everything but the mousepad is less than a day old. The case is an antec gx500 (not really best out there, but has fucking fan controllers at a price point of €40-50.
>>51584547
>talking about 1150 vs 1151
>mention even 1155 is still holding up quite well so buying 1150 is not a bad investment
>HAHAHA BRO WHATEVER GO BUY 5 YEAR OLD STUFF
Are you stupid?
>>51581647
I'd go h440. In my experience, watercooling doesn't work well in a phantom. But maybe you aren't watercooling. I have a Noctis and its the same as an h440 on the inside, and I have a 280mm Kraken x61 and an EVGA GTX 980 ti hybrid in there and it works just fine. There is room on the top and front of the case for big-ass 360mm radiators if you are so inclined.
>>51585533
Isn't that your point? Why ever buy anything new when you can just run old Intel hardware?
I mean shit, Anon. You're already saying that a 3 year old socket might as well be you only choice since if you buy the newest socket you can't ever upgrade it ever because that's a stupid meme you should feel stupid for ever memeing.
Christ.
>>51585867
You shouldn't take a shitty deal over a good deal because of future proofing. Period.
What triggered you so hard senpai?
>>51586002
It's just an alternative. If the guy is fine with not having Hyper Threading right now, he can get the Skylake i5 and wait until he has more money later on down the road.
It's just one way of handling the situation, but apparently this is not acceptable. The only way is to get the Haswell i7.
Plex server. What do you think guys?
>>51579979
The 650 GS is really small but worth it.
>>51587365
unnecessarily overpowered, imo, unless you have future expansion plans.
>>51584564
Hybrids are dumb.
On a tight budget just stick with an HDD.
With some breathing room get an SSD big enough for the OS and some other stuff.
With a bigger budget go all out on SSDs 1TB+
>>51579330
Rate my build
>>51588253
terrible prices
at least you have health care
>>51588315
but the build is decent tho rite? Ordered it all on Friday
>>51587928
what if I am building the PC for a dumb person who doesn't want to understand SSDs and HDDs, and doesn't want to hear why he has to move all his shit from his desktop/documents folders to his D drive constantly?
>>51588410
Just give them a HDD.
>>51579330
>ddr4 mobo
>4x4 ram, not 2x8
>a fucking 2gb 980
>k processor, no aftermarket cooler
>a goddamn v300
This is either some top tier bait or some shit tier building
>>51588410
Can't you tell windows to put the folder on D: ?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PKvjdC
This a good build? Budget is $400, still need a monitor and keyboard too
>>51588454
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ChtKvK
This is another option, factors in the monitor. Which one is better and how can I improve from here?
>>51588417
I will, but only because I can get a 1TB HDD for $36.00
If I were going for 4TB, though, I would definitely get the Seagate SSHD, since it only costs $0.032 per GB and the SSD-cache makes everything you use-frequently open at SSD speeds.
Also, SSHDs being less reliable than HDDs is 100% a myth; in fact they are more reliable due to the SSD making reading off the platter unnecessary much of the time
I'm thinking about upgrading my graphics card to a r9 380. Do I need to worry about bottlenecking? Should I upgrade anything else or choose another card?
Which is the best value for a 4GB graphics card?
>R9 380 - $160
>GTX 960 - $180
>R9 290 - $200
>>51588436
I could do all that with symlinks and try to set it all up for him but I doubt it would last long. Most normies want one single local drive; if you give them a small SSD C: drive and a big HDD D: drive, they will just have the D: drive always empty and the C: drive always running out of space
I have been told that you should buy the best Gpu you can buy, but the 970 is abit overkill for 1080p with all my steam games, most demeaning being gta 5.
Is it better to buy a 380 and have to lower the graphics for next years games or spent the extra 200 dollars for a 970 today, and then have better chance of hit 60fps 1080 high?
>>51588344
why a 500Mb ssd and only a 1Tb hdd? should have just gotten a 1Tb ssd
>>51588592
290
>>51588592
290
>>51588677
See if there's a deal for a 290 if you're worried about price/performance over the next year
a 380 should be fine until 2016 though
I'm planning on building a new rig. My current build, which is about 5 years old now, is running an i5 2500k on an msi p67a-g45 mobo, 12gb ram, gtx 560 ti, 650w psu, 2tb hdd for mass storage and 960gb ssd as my primary drive. I'll only be replacing my cpu, mobo and gpu since I plan on re using everything else cause I'm broke and need to save as much as possible. I want to upgrade to an i5 6600k or equivalent cpu (I can get the 6600k for about $250 new) but I want to stay with ddr3 ram. Reason why is there isn't much of a performance jump from ddr3 to ddr4 so no need to sink money into that. I'm having trouble finding mobo's in my price range ($120-160) that'll take the new skylake chips and ddr3 ram so any recommendations are appreciated. As for the gpu I'm torn between a 4gb 960 gtx or going all out on a 980 ti. I'm trying to save money where I can, that's why I'm using what I can from my current rig. I'm not opposed to going for a cheaper 700 series card either but I'd like to not have to spend more money down the road to upgrade an already old gpu. Thoughts and recommendations are appreciated.
Is a 3.1 usb a meme? do i need to spend an extra 20 bucks for a 3.1 capable one or cheap out.
is this a decent case if I think I'm having airflow problems (high mobo temps)? (I'm currently using a thermaltake versa h2, with only one fan spot)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107
it's got a 20$ rebate today is why i'm asking, and i've already spent a lot of money recently so i don't want to spend too much more
>>51579886
500W is plenty for a 6600K and a 960
My oc'ed 2500K and 7980 (which uses more power than a 960 anyway) draw ~370W at maximum load from the wall and that is with fur mark and IBT. Regular work load should be way below that anyway.
>>51581157
it's really tempting at 25..would it be better to drop an extra 10$ for the sandisk x300?
>>51582582
where can you get an ultra ii for 25?
This is right at my budget. I will be using the 2tb HDD from my existing machine. Anything you would change? I want to play games in 4k at some point. But I will only be playing in 1440p for now.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/HP9yYJ
do i go for 500gb of sdd storage and a 970 or a 980 instead of the storage?
Get vengeance instead of dominator
>>51590667
>>51590667
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html
Stop posting that trash.
>>51590749
Drop both 970 and 980 ideas, get something from AMD (that matches those, 390, 390x) and then get a regular HD from WD or somewhere for storage.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cxCgGX
gaming, 1080p
y/n/tips?
>>51591261
Outside the SSD brand (I only know Kingston and Samsung desu) looks really good.
Why 1x4 instead of 2x8 ram though?
>>51591340
can add more RAM later, but might grab 8. I don't see a need for 16 - I only play games and browse.
i3 4170 or i5 4460 for gayman
280x, 380 or 960
asus mobos good?
best brand for a cheap, 1TB hdd?
samsung 850 evo 120 gb ssd good?
decent sub €150 monitor?
I'm a poorfag and about to buy a GTX950 as I assemble my first gayming rig, convince me otherwise.
>>51587365
Overkill, $500 is enough for a plex server
>>51591764
amd is much better at that price range
how does this look for a sub £1k mini itx pc?
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/d6bc8d
>>51592150
never buy seagate
>>51592187
never failed on me before, i have like 6 of them running right now.
Do I have to worry about graphics card size with pic related? Thinking about upgrading my GT 640 to a R9 380 or equivalent.
will Nvidia ever make something to cover the gap between the 960 and the 970? why no 960 ti?
>don't want to get something as shitty as the 960
>970 is too expensive
>have to get AMD and suffer housefires and shit drivers
>>51592523
why not get AMD
>>51592523
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/39343-nvidia-working-on-geforce-gtx-960-ti
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XP62Jx
How's this look? I need the hyper-threading which is why I'm getting an i7 plus 16gb of RAM.
>>51591764
I'm pretty sure you can get a fucking 380 for $170/180
>>51592823
Just curious, what do you need ht for?
The build itself looks fine, but i'd go for another monitor and keyboard.
Why 23", why not 24", there are cheap and good BenQ, ASUS and DELL monitors.
Regarding the keyboard, personally, i' no fan of roccat.. i'd go for something like a CM Storm Quickfire TK.
>>51593001
I need it since I'm a digital artist, so I work in adobe and render shit.
As for the monitor, it's more of a placeholder honestly. I haven't had a chance to ask my brother about a good one yet; he plays fighting games so he researches his monitors heavily.
I also see that the CM storm has cherry reds, which are better for games? Are they loud, I'd prefer it not to be.
>>51583640
>980ti can play almost every game maxed at 4k/60fps.
By almost every game you mean 2D scrollers right?
Wrong, a solo 980 Ti can play 4K at medium to low settings at 60 frames average, depending on the game.
But maxed, you're off your fucking rocker if you think one card will do that.
>>51593197
>re off your fucking rocker if you think one card will do that.
What is Fury X2.
>>51593187
You can buy the CM Storm with browns,too, but as they are mechanical they're all loud.
For the monitor, if you're into digital arts and such i'd not recommend you to go cheap on it.
If you want a placeholder solution get a used one for 50 bucks or so and save up for a good one.
>>51583640
>The 980ti can play almost every game maxed at 4k/60fps
I have OC'd Titan X.
It got 30-38ish FPS in GTA V/TW3 when I maxed everything.
@4K.
980Ti is made for 1440p more like it.
>>51593291
U so funni xD
>>51593332
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. I may be coming into some money next semester and if I do I'll put that towards a good monitor. Thanks for the advice.
>>51593428
It is one card tho.
stay mad tard
>>51593455
Actually it's classed as two cards. It still requires Xfire.
The equivalent would be 980Ti SLI, which also is more powerful.
So yeah, no 'single' card - that means unos gráficos, José. Entiendes?
>>51593609
Wait what? Fury X2 is gonna require Crossfire? What the actual fuck will the adapter do here?
>>51593639
>actually thought putting two GPUs on a single card made it act as one GPU.
You can't make this shit up. Why am I not surprised you're shilling AMD.
Is this good enough for a first time builder with £600 maximum budget?
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/qd337P
What's the best Z170 motherboard for around $200 or less? I've been looking at the Asus Z170-A but after hearing some negative things about it I'm not sure.
Secondly, is the 6700k that much better than the 6600k? I'm mainly going to be using this rig for gaming, and I most likely won't be doing any video editing or rendering of things.
>>51594240
dont know about skylake but there is like a 1-5 fps difference between 4690k and 4790k in games and the price difference is like 100 bucks. skylake is probably the same, google it tho
in my opinion
>amd cpu
>nvidia gpu
>cheap SSD for operating system
>HDD for the rest (1-2 TB)
everything else is really up to you
>>51594318
Thanks dude, I will.
>>51593639
You're a fucking retard.
You see that tiny silver box on the bottom of the PCB between the GPUs? That's a PLX chip that essentially emulates PCIe lanes within the card itself. Because of that, if you try to install one of these in a mobo that does not have Crossfire enabled (like a really shitty H81/110 or A68 board), you will only get access to one of the GPUs.
You need to have a Crossfire enabled board to fully utilize that card. Same story with the R9 295x2 and the HD7990. Titan Z and GTX 690 are the same story, you need an SLI-enabled board to use both GPUs on the PCB.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dvhG99
R8. Build inspired by OP™
Only problem is that i live in France , and part are overpriced , some are not available , ect
What do ?
>>51594640
Order from mindfactory (German shop), cheap as you can get in European Islamic State
>>51579999
>4770K is around the same performance as the 6600K and you get all the i7 features, and it goes for around £130
Outside of a few limited cases no one has any use for hyperthreading and having 4 fake cores isn't doing the user any good.
In fact due to stability limits most people disable HT so they can put on a faster OC.
With the 6600K you can hit 4.7 no problem.
pcpartpicker.com/p/N8pFvK
will this be a good server?
i don't need a lot space for storage
thoughts? what 16:10 monitors should I be looking at?
Upgrading to 980. Is there any noticeable difference between FTW, SC and SSC other than the way the heat is dispersed? I have H100i cooling
>>51594756
YOU HAVE MOTHERBOARD FOR OVERLOCKING
YOU DONT HAVE CPU FOR OVERCLOCKING (NON-K PROCESSOR)
OTHER THAN THAT MAYBE THINK IF YOU CAN SQUEEZE EVEN HIGHER END AMD GPU FOR YOURSELF U GOT PRETTY GOOD SETS GOING ON
>>51594794
I want that mobo for future upgrades and when I'm ready to mess around with overclocking.
I didn't want to drop too much more money considering I still have to pick a monitor - is there a better gpu that isn't terribly expensive?
>>51594845
You save money if you just outright buy a K processor now instead of having two processors in the future dude.
>>51594756
Out of interest, why is 16:10 important to you?
Looking to replace an old 20'' Acer Al2016w monitor that I got 7 years ago with this
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9509910&Sku=HEW-102773028
Is this a good replacement at the current price?
Also looking to replace my old motherboard that has an LGA 1155 because that socket type is ded and I don't want to hunt down a second hand processor off ebay for about the same sales price as a new one
>>51594862
I meant upgrade as in waiting for the next round of cpus next year.
>>51594863
It isn't. I'm curious about ultrawide monitors as well but my local store didn't have any so I haven't seen one in person. I won't be doing much gaming, so I'm definitely flexible.
>>51594794
Look at his memory speed. H170 and lower chipset does not support DDR4 speeds over 2133MHz. Plus, Skylake responds much better to faster RAM speeds than Haswell did. I'd even pair a cheaper i3-6100 with the cheapest Z170 board and DDR4-2800MHz RAM for a tangible 10% increase in most CPU-bound games.
What is the k equivalent to a 4460?
And if I get a k processor, I don't HAVE to overclock it instantly right?
A Z97 on sale is about the same as a H97, but I will overclock down the road when I have a FULL understanding of it
>>51579330
Your original idea was actually really balanced, only thing is if you are able to save the money and see what will this actual new gen of GPUs bring..(But wait at least a month or so after release, it takes a little time for dust to settle, to see what shit lies underneath all the hype and bullshit).
Also, do a research about Kingston SSD.
You didnt took other things in consideration, this one is really important..
How much will those components cost when you will sell them, it can make a huge impact on your next build.
This 980 will loose 40% of its value in next 4 months.
Also, dont listen to people about Haswell, Haswell is the worst series from Intel even before C2D(its not bad, but it is worst among the best).
Stick to your original design, you wont lose much money when you will sell it eventually(yes, even 5 years from now).
ATI/AMD loose value over time drastically, INTEL/nVidia dont, as far away from mainstream you go, the more you loose.
Also, another thing,I would buy used 280x 3gb, it will hold you until actually good CPUs come out, and you can sell it for 10$ less in no time. And since best combo is still AMD CPU/nVidia GPU or INTEL CPU/ATI GPU(look in to your heart, see that its truth).
Also, never ask here or anywhere, do your homework and stick to it, here you have as much experts as posters, and everyone thinks his opinion is the best...
Its a solid build, everything is really balanced, just remember not to go to high end stuff(unless money is of no importance, then fire away) because of really huge decremental gain on every field.
>>51594967
>do your homework and stick to
as a person without no eletrical engineering/such comparable background HOW DO I DO THIS?
>>51594967
>Haswell is the worst series from Intel even before C2D
How so?
What does /g/ think of my $500 bucks 1080p game machine?
>>51590667
>blackblaze
>>>/trash/
>>51591227
>Stop posting that trash.
Post the comically worse debunking.
But they used the consumer drives too much that's why they broke!
>>51595070
pretty nice
>>51591261
I got a better build for you f.am
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2FssD3
No need to thank me.
I would replace the 980 Ti with a r9 370 and call it a day bud.
>>51591261
>>51595452
If you need more power, be sure to check this one out, less than 10 bucks more expensive.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dTYwdC
Thinking about doing a Mini-ITX build due to both limited space and muh portability. I don't play very many games, but the ones that I do play are really taxing my W520 and I loathe to get a gaming laptop. I'm looking to play SC2 and TF2 on max settings at 1080p.
Thoughts, /g/? I'd prefer to keep the total price under $650 canadabux. A few of the components have some decent rebates on them right now.
>>51595452
>ocz ssd
>not intel
>toshita hdd
>not hgst/wd
nigger
>>51595545
Toshiba is a good brand, hell most of the name HDD brands are good for gaming rigs.
That SDD at that price is a no brainer. Again this is a gaming rig not a NAS or Video Encoding WS.
If you want a solid sub 1k machine, you need to learn to take brand loyalty out of the window and get the most out of your money.
This is what i'm thinking of building,
it's my first time so i'm nervous
I can only afford about half now and the other half by january.
>>51595930
Good lord, what the hell is that?!
Anyway tell me your budget and your use case and I can whip out a much better rig.
>>51595930
>5900RPM
>buying windows
>windows 8.1
>2015
End yourself.
>>51596023
O-Oh, i have some of the parts on the list but my budget would be £2500, thought i would've preferred £2000. My PC case is so terrible it's not mentioned in PCPartpicker so i have no knowledge of the case.
>>51595930
maybe bait, but:
64GB of RAM. What do you need that for? I've got myself in a moment of crazyness (which are very frequent btw) 32GB and i use only 7~8GB (but i will RAMdisk soon)
Why an X series i7? overclockable i7 should be fine...
Why two HDD that have different rpm? it's hell! try an SSD and the archive Seagate
You don't need a Titan, do you?
and
>buyng windows...
try again / 10
why not this?
pcpartpicker.com/p/4syqt6
>>51596147
U got pbudget of 2500 Sterlings
thats fucking 3500 euros or something
Get fucking sli Titan X to a proper ATX case and watercool the fuck out of them and game at any given resolution like proper gayboy
or idk buy 8 ram sticks and stuff them to your ass
>>51596139
I have a copy of 8.1 which is why i included it there, if you think any other copy of windows is better please tell me, i posted the list for a reason regardless of my embarrassment. I can only use windows due to the software i will be using which would be incompatible with linux, macs are terrible.
>>51596175
I'm a media student, i need a lotta rams for render farming and good graphics card for real time rendering. Ok I will remove the other hard drive and keep the 8tb seagate one. I'll get the regular i7 instead of the Xeon one.
>>51596186
As attractive as watercooling is i don't want water anywhere near my titan x(s), i'm too clumsy for that. The thought of SLI is in my head but for now i'll just get one titan x and spend the rest on other pc parts, and if i even manage to spare some change i'll get a new monitor, sound system and maybe keyboard.
>>51596390
>manage to spare
>budjet is 3500 euros
Fucking order that shit from mindfactory (german shop) and you get it piss free holy shit I would cum buckets with your budget.
>>51596424
If I had 3500 eurodollars I wouldn't spend all of it on a PC. After all all I do on the PC is internet and gayman, and you don't really NEED more than 800-900 for a good gayman computer.
>>51596424
Basically my situation is that i just started uni and knew my current pc is shit, the uni is 2 hours away from an unreliable transportation service so i have to do my best standalone without having to depend on the university's pc's.
I'm not from a rich family or anything, in fact i'm broke, however my source of income is through the governmental system that pays me each semester, i started off not even owning a mobile and had to pay off for a bunch of things.
Now i can only afford to pay about £1200 for half of the PC parts on the list this semester and the other half by the end of December when semester b starts. I can't risk buying softwares and other shit on my current pc that can't even run vanilla fallout 4 in a low settings for 30 minutes so my thought is to blow out big bucks for a machine that would still be relevant and powerful for 3-5 years whilst i still have money. This PC is gonna give me grades and money for my future job whilst still giving me (i hope) 4k gameplay. So yes, all crit and help is appreciated.
Had a weak laptop for the last 7 years and I finally got money. Looking to catch up and run newer stuff on low (maybe not even that). And I'll likely just find cheaper accessories locally.
Tear into me please.
I need some advice
I'm building a new PC that's supposed to be future-proof. I'm not sure if I should get an i5-6600k or an i5-6600. I have never overclocked and maybe never will.
The price difference is around 100€, including the CPU itself, CPU fan, mainboard, RAM.
My main goal is not having to upgrade my parts anytime soon. Is the i5-6600k worth it in this scenario?
>>51596390
>if you think any other copy of windows is better please tell me
windows 10, 7, xp
>buying windows in 2015
top kek m8
