I thought SSDs were just a meme.
Why is the 950 so based?
Do any of you peasants own one?
Looking into getting Sandisk Ultra 2 480GB.
it is only good for benchmarks
for system start up time it competes with $60 ssds
>>51508021
where did you read this?
>paying more money for the same amount of storage
Please kill yourselves SSD shills
>>51508021
>system startup times
Who cares? Why would you buy an ssd for the startup time
>>51508406
>ssds
>storage
lol dumb kuks dont know about ssd for speed and hdd for storage
how have you remained this stupid for this long?
>>51508299
Anywhere. Same is true of PCIe SSDs.
>>51508434
>Why would you buy an ssd for the startup time
weak bait m8
>>51508299
Just look up any review, the fastest M.2 are only a couple seconds faster to boot than the average SATA3 SSD. Same goes for launching programs. or just doing most shit really.
An SSD like the 950 Pro or Intel 750 is only going to flex it's muscle when doing heavy workloads like editing multiple 4K video streams.
fucking newegg reviews are bullshit
newegg is saying this shit is like fire and is like going from mechanical disk to SSD all over again
It's not, even when compared to slow 1066mhz ram
SSDs suck balls.
>>51508665
>compared with non-volatile memory
Why even bother posting?
>>51508665
Eventually people will get 128-256GBs of ram and run VMs of their OSs in 12-24GB/s RAMdisks.
>>51508694
You can save ramdisk images you troglodyte.
>>51507861
>I thought SSDs were just a meme.
People who think this are idiots who do not understand hardware fundamentals. Congratulations.
>>51508728
You can't boot from a ram disk you faggot.
>>51508665
>ramdisk
>mfw there are people too poor to have 1TB SSDs for mass storage
>>51508902
Is there any benefit to putting movies, songs and porn on an SSD anyway? I've got a 256 that I put the OS, all programs, and the 1 or two games I'm currently playing on it. Why would I need more unless I'm like editing shit?
I "had" to get one, because I'm out of SATA ports. Didn't put anything on it yet though.
I love Samsung desu
After my motherboard and SSD died because I wasn't using a surge protector (kek), Samsung replaced it overnight no questions asked.
>>51508902
>1tb
>not 2tb
step up sempai
>>51508902
>1TB
>mass storage
That literally wouldn't even hold my scat porn collection, let alone anything else.
>>51507861
I want to buy one, but they're out of stock fucking everywhere.
Went with it over the 750 series because of the cheaper price/GiB.
>>51509559
>downloading porn
>not using RAID
>>51508482
It's only marginally more expensive than a high end SATA SSD with the same storage space. It has a better price/performance ratio to top things off.
>>51508406
idk why all the shitposters on /g don't go back to the roots of what made these forums so good.
tell dipshit shitposters trying to market their shitty products to install gentoo a billion times until they realize their shitposting can't compete with the mass amount of shitposters here.
>>51508902
>there are people who think 1TB is "mass storage"
how the fuck am i gonna store 30TB+ on SSDs? my server only holds 24 drives you know.
>>51509559
why aren't you shitposting that shit in this shit thread?
or rather all shitty marketuer threads like this one?
at least put that shit to good use you faggot.
>>51508665
Even if you ignore the ramdisc part, they're comparing 1 SSD to a goddamn 4 drive raid array. I'd be interested to see the same test between equal sized raids of SSDs and HDDs though
>>51507861
Yes but I don't have a case yet
>>51509663
4TB+ SSDs you dumb fuck
>>51507861
I own one bruh
I have a 500gb 850 evo m.2, nothing else as storage (had to cheap out, but I wanted to do it in style), bretty gud.
>>51510436
2gb 980ti? WhatthefuckingMexicanSamurai?
I have an Intel 750 1.2tb
Same thing as an m.2 format I'm pretty sure, they're both PCI-E
I like it, but startup times are affected for sure. Everything else is nice though. Crazy fast transfer speeds.
>>51508874
>external power through backplate instead of a PCIe 6-pin
>>51511581
Because PCIe 6pin doesn't provide power while the computer is off you dufus.
>>51511600
Which brings up another issue... wouldn't that mean you lose all data if you unplug the fucking thing?
>>51511513
Oh sheittt... didn't even notice that. Speccy being a nub because GPU Z reports 6GB. Phew
>>51511564
Sorry here's pic
>>51511630
Why would you unplug it?
I think some versions had a small onboard battery so you could unplug it for a short time, but it's a RAM disk, persistence of data shouldn't be your concern.
>>51508874
this shit is for real?
>>51507861
I have the 512GB one. It's nothing special apart from benchmarks except in one key usage - scratch disk.
This thing will put 850 PROs in RAID 0 to shame. If this thing was 1TB, I'd probably be able to edit longer 4K videos, but for now I'm resigned to using this and an older SM951 512GB.
For consumer use, top jej this thing will shave a measly second or two off of your boot time. Games will not load any quicker than an 850 EVO or Vertex 180 (which I am currently using as a dedicated Steam library drive).
And they run hot as shit.
I see temps hovering near my CPU's load temps at 60 degrees or more depending on how large of a video I'm trying to edit. The SM951 is known to cut its write speed once it hits a thermal limit, one that you'll easily reach underneath a GTX 980 Ti with no air flow around it. I haven't seen any sort of thermal limiting on the 950, so I can only assume this thermal throttling was addressed. But it still runs as hot as the SM951 since it's also hidden under a GTX 980 Ti.
I think I'll just buy a regular ATX board with more PCI Express 3.0 slots to attach them to Addonics adapter cards so I can put heat sinks on the NANDs. But doing so will void the warranties on the 950 (the SM951 has no warranties, FYI). At least they won't be toasting themselves to an early death.
>>51509185
>I "had" to get one, because I'm out of SATA ports
WEW LAD
Your board will need to shut down some SATA ports just to get that thing running on native M.2 ports. I hope you bought a PCIe adapter card.
>>51512342
The fuck are you talking about? It uses PCIe.
>>51512523
Check your motherboard's specs
I have an ASRock Z170 board with three M.2 slots... And they take up TWO SATA3 ports each. Even though they're all PCIe 3.0 4x M.2 drives on them.
It's a damn good thing they have 4 additional SATA3 ports and enough PCIe slots for a miniSAS card, otherwise I'd be up shit creek without a paddle for hard drive expansion.
>>51507861
Why would I buy this thing that overheats instead of getting the Intel 750 NVME or waiting for 3DXpoint?
>>51512572
That's more M.2 slots than the average motherboard. Most motherboards don't need to use the extra lanes for SATA. It has enough not to bottleneck your GPU and support M.2. on Z170.
>>51508600
Newegg is a scam
>>51512623
I know Gigabyte disables at least one SATA port if you plug in a PCIe M.2 into its slot. I'm not 100% about MSI, but I imagine it's the same. Most M.2 controllers come from the same maker (ASMedia, I think), so they often operate with the same limitation. Using an M.2 slot almost always costs you SATA/SATA Express ports or PCIe lanes. Sometimes both.
>>51508665
you can't compare Flash ROM and its latencies with RAM. both serve a distinct purpose, but like I said and will reformulate in a more english post.
having ROM/SSD on its own DIMM format cards just like the RAM should be how things in the future would be designed, to maximize bandwidth, not going through several controllers but talk face to face with the CPU's memory controller, that's what I like with AMD's RAMdisk design. and keep a real terabyte-ish hard disk for the porn and warez.
>>51508665
WAIT
what the shit, I didn't read in details and thought it was a good idea but NO, it's completely fucking retarded!
it's not actual NAND flash memory sticks you plug on your free memory banks, it's a fucking software that emulates a mass storage on your extra RAM.
anywhere I go now I see the jew.
>>51507861
I honestly don't get /g/ sometimes.
>SSD is a Meme
You guys buying mechanic keyboards, $200-400 Motherboard, 4TB of HDD (Multiple Even) but you don't buy a fucking $45 SSD. Hell you can buy a 32Gb SSD for $30 just for your system
>>51507861
Waiting for 3D Xpoint in m.2 format.
Just kidding. No one fucking uses m.2 and 3D Xpoint is going to be fucking expensive for years.
A SATA SSD or one of those PCI-express adapters is the best /g/ can hope for without a motherboard upgrade.
>>51512795
/g/ is not one person. A lot of things come down to personal preference and how value you can get out of it. And then there's shitposters.
>>51507861
Its weird that the 256gb one has a shit write speed compared to the 512gb one.
Is it possible to run them in Raid 0, think of the Fallout 4 load times
>>51507861
It will feature in my new build
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/CFFrK8
>>51507861
Enjoy your samsung shit firmware fucking everything up
>>51507861
>SSD
>"meme"
>taking technology advice from faggots who buy mp3 players and praise the value of CRT monitors
>>51508874
My brain just farted...
I mean this shit will get bottlenecked by the PCIE slot.
>>51514349
>Its weird that the 256gb one has a shit write speed compared to the 512gb one.
No, that's actually par for the course for all SSDs. A 120GB SSD will have worse performance than a 250GB version due to the controller having to compensate for the lack of NAND to utilize, plus keeping the remaining NAND usable for as long as possible.
>Is it possible to run them in Raid 0, think of the Fallout 4 load times
No benefit over a regular SATA 3 SSD. I've barely seen a one second load time reduction on my SM951 AHCI with a heavily modded Skyrim. Games just do not come anywhere close to utilizing the SSD's full read potential.
The 950 Pro is more money than the SM951.
>>51514907
But the 950 has a warranty, the SM951 does not.
>>51509185
>>51512342
>>51512523
>>51512572
>>51512623
You're all retarded, M.2 is a form factor with several different implementations. Some M.2 drives use PCIe lanes, some use SATA lanes, it's determined by the drive. The two most common types of M.2 modules are B notch and M notch, B can use two PCIe lanes or SATA, and M can use 4 PCIe lanes or SATA.
The 950 NVMe drive uses PCIe lanes and is keyed for M notch M.2 slots.
>>51515210
>needing a warranty on a SSD
Those things like never fail
and if you're super worried just get the newegg protection plan or whatever, it'll still be far cheaper
>>51512314
you do know that semiconductor properties usually become more desirable around that tempreature right?
>>51515210
>buying a warranty for products
>>51515210
RAMcity, the Amazon seller gives a 3 yr warranty.
>>51511698
It's a shopped pic. You're an idiot.
http://blog.codinghorror.com/building-a-pc-part-viii-iterating/
>>51508665
You dumb little shit, have you heard about latency, random access, etc.? Try copying two different files to another disk at the same time with a HDD - it shits itself.
The very moment I bought an SSD, I could feel the damn speed in my face!
>>51515270
You're equally retarded as some of the board manufacturers, because using an M.2 PCIE drive on a ASRock Z170 motherboard disables your SATA ports. Why? I don't fucking know.
>>51515340
>you do know that semiconductor properties usually become more desirable around that tempreature right?
Yes, but Samsung SM951 throttles its write speed at a certain temperature. It's well documented and I've experienced it a few times while using it as my primary scratch disk.
The 950 PRO doesn't have this problem so far.
950 pro + 960gb ultra II master race.
welp time to download more HDD space
>>51515734
950 PRO 512GB
SM951 NVMe 512GB
Samsung 850 PRO 512GB x2
OCZ Vertex180 480GB
Samsung 850 EVO 1TB mSATA x2
master race
>>51507962
This. Though I'm getting the 960.
>>51515305
Other when there is a sudden powerless like during a storm or blackout. God help you if something was being written to the drive when you lose power.
>>51514781
It would, yes, but 8 years ago we were on SATA-2 which was a max of 300MB/s while PCI-e was at 2.0 which could push 500MB/s through a 1x connector AND we didn't have SSDs that could fully saturate a SATA cable.
So the PCI-e was blazing fast. Now it might be marginally faster than a PCI-e SSD or m.2 due to access times but there would be nothing in it.
>>51508447
They're both considered storage though faggot.
The day I go SSD is the day a 1TB comes down to 200USD or less.
>>51508665
>intel 320
is it 2011 again?
>>51508873
>saving a matter of seconds for something you do maybe at max a few times a day
Startup is the least relevant aspect of computing, you fucking retard.
