What do I look for in a good 'gaming' monitor?
So far I've complied this list of minimum requirements:
>Minimum 120hz
>1-2ms response time
>HDMI input
>16:9
>Minimum 24"
>Under $350
What else should I be looking for? Any opinions on which monitor is the best?
>>51498445
A fucking higher-than-1080p resolution.
So 1440p.
Probably G- or Freesync if you play Quakelikes or shit like that.
>>51498445
There isn't anything good if you put such an absurdly low price tag as a requirement.
>>51498559
desu im only using it for PS4 as i play destiny.
1080+ resolutions will be upscaled and i dont want that also out of budget
>>51498445
This entirely depends on what types of games you play. If you play competitive games like CSGO or any competitive fps games really, you'll want a high refresh rate monitor. For this, you'll either want the ASUS VG248QE or the BenQ XL2411Z.
If you mostly play single player games, a higher resolution and IPS panel will server you better than a nicer refresh rate would. I'd recommend the Acer G257HU or ASUS PB258Q.
Korean monitors are also an option if you want the best of both worlds, albeit a little sketchy. The QNIX QX2710 and YAMAKASI QH2711 are both good options.
>>51498588
Well if you play shit on PS4 you can forget 120hz there's no PS4 game with that high fps that needs a competitive monitor
>>51498609
whatchu think of asus mg279Q 27"?
>>51498588
wtf you retarded?
>>51498640
Good monitor, expensive as hell though.
If this is OP, don't waste your money on a nice money for a fucking ps4 you retard.
>>51498611
i know this i'm just future proofing it
Any thoughts on BenQ?
+1 for XL2411Z.
I have it and absolutely love it. its color are not anything to brag about, but everything else about it is. pwm, flicker free. 144hz of awesomeness.
unlike the asus model which has a pwm backlight.
>>51498445
Sony GDM-FW900.
Iiyama Master Pro 514 if you can take 4:3
>>51498769
pic related, its mine
>>51498445
>PS4
>144HZ
can you see the flaw in your logic?
>>51498445
>hdmi
>muh response time
How about fucking kill yourself.
>>51498445
http://www.logicalincrements.com/peripherals/index.html#gamingscreen
>>51498804
you can literally see the lack of contrast and viewing angle degree of your TN panel anon
>>51498588
so you want a 720p 60Hz monitor at 16:9 ...
>>51498824
its a tn panel, what are you excepting?
for the price, which is under $300, its a fantastic monitor.
if i wanted and cared about viewing angles and color, i would use my imac. which i do for those things.
and anyways, the monitor is centered view with me when i sit down so the angles don't bother me.
IPS panel, otherwise you're going to have shit viewing angles and you WILL regret your purchase if you want the best experience with your games.
Yes, an IPS panel will have a 4 or 5ms response time. You will not be able to notice. It will not make any kind of difference to you whatsoever. It will look massively better.
Unless you are extremely good at twitch FPS and need every millisecond you are retarded for not buying IPS
>>51498708
Unless you plan on upgrading to a PC within the next year or two, don't fucking get anything above 60Hz. It's fucking useless.
YOU NEED AT LEAST 1000 HZ OR YOU WILL NOT BE A PROFESSIONAL GAMER LIKE ME
TAKE IT FROM ME, A TOP PROFESSIONAL GAMER ON THE PROFESSIONAL GAMING SCENE
>>51498858
it really doesn't bother you when you watch anime on it?.. i mean, even if it is 24", you can still see the brightness and slight color shift when you look near the edge of the monitor, don't you?
i'm so glad i switched to 75hz freesync IPS after getting buyers remorse with a monitor like yours
>>51498708
The PS5 won't do that either nigger. And the PS6 also will not. Console gamers have been taught that 30FPS is good. Most of them game on shitty TVs. If you are not gaming on a PC you have absolutely Z E R O need for a display above 60Hz. You also don't need an ultra fast refresh rate monitor because you aren't going to need the split second twitch reaction times you see in CS:GO or Quake. The most competitive fast paced thing you are going to be playing on a console is Gears of War or Call of Duty.
This is what you want
>60Hz
>IPS panel (NOT A FUCKING TN)
>HDMI input
>1920x1080
>24" or larger
There are a crapton of options there. 27" is a common "large" screen size for 1080p and will probably be your sweet spot.
>>51498864
i don't recommend this unless you can get a ips 144hz display for under $350.
i went from a ips screen to the benq. the one >>51498769 got. and i couldn't be happier. the colors are not great but the 144hz and pwm free make for a SUPER smooth experience. its near crt like.
i sit in center eye view with my monitor so the angles are not a issue.
unless your anal about color or don't sit eye center, its a great monitor.
>>51498895
i don't watch anime.
and again, if i cared that badly, i would use my imac which has a 8bit ips 1440p display. which i still don't use much.
>>51498934
also want to add, i don't notice the contrast issues much. its only really noticeable if i'm at an odd angle or trying to see it.
>>51498906
Do you game on a PC? He's a console gamer. Do you have any idea how slow paced games tend to be compared to PC when you play with a controller that uses analogues? You don't need lightning fast response times and a high refresh rate display will do nothing when you are displaying 20~30 images per second
I've owned several monitors with an IPS panel (all under 5ms response time gtg) and I currently main a 144Hz BenQ monitor with a TN panel with a 1ms response time.
I can honestly say that while 144Hz is nice, you have to be playing the right games. If you aren't playing games that take advantage of the high refresh rate all the time then you are better off with an IPS panel. If you aren't looking at a 144Hz TN you aren't going to notice any lack of smoothness in the IPS. If you aren't looking at an IPS to compare it to all the time (and probably even if you are), you are going to get used to the TN panel's high refresh rate very quickly and it won't impress you much over time. If you have them both side by side, you are going to notice the IPS's better colors more often than the 144Hz TN's "ULTRASMOOTH" refresh rate.
So again, if you play nothing but fast paced games, get the TN. If you don't play them at least 50% of the time, get the IPS. One of these days you can afford a 144Hz IPS display so just give it another year or two and you can move on to that later.
>>51498960
the pwm free and high refresh rate really makes it worth it.
i had a ips. i had those "amazing viewing angles."
the way i sit, the viewing angles are not an issue.
the contrast? eh yeah they look a tad washed out because the pwm free and high refresh rate really helps my eyes. i really do have less eye strain. it might sound like a meme to others, but i really noticed a difference.
i understand you fap to cartoon porn, but not everyone is that obsessed with making sure their anime is 100% perfect color with perfect contrast.
sometimes people care about other things and flicker free backlight.
>>51499006
I have both a 144Hz BenQ XL2411Z and an ASUS VS239H-P side by side right now literally right in front of me.
I am underestimating nothing. My BenQ is my daily driver with my ASUS being my secondary. If I lost both of them and had to buy a single monitor and I couldn't afford a 144Hz IPS, I'd get a high quality 60Hz WQHD IPS display.
This is me
>>51499055
op go to a store if you can and look at both an ips display and a pwm free, 144hz tn display.
its going to come down to your own personal preference of what you care about more.
the obvious observations will be better color and viewing angles if you sit oddly with the ips.
the tn 144hz, pwm free you will notice a more smoother experience.
whatever observation you like more go with that.
you have people here that masturbate to dolls and anime characters. they treat them as their wife so they want them in perfect condition.
you have others that don't and want an overall better experience.
two different preferences.
>>51499109
Before anyone says any bullshit, I run multiple high tier GPUs in SLI so every game I play is played at a high refresh rate.
OP here.
So i'm certain that I want a Benq monitor.
am currently looking at these 2:
>http://www.amazon.ca/BenQ-Performance-24-inch-Monitor-XL2411Z/dp/B00ITORITU/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448333159&sr=1-4
>http://www.amazon.ca/BenQ-24-inch-Console-Monitor-RL2455HM/dp/B007HSKSMI/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448333159&sr=1-2
excluding price, which one is better and why?
>>51499109 see >>51499129
>>51499129
i appreciate this comment
>>51499129
Stop samefagging so much jesus just shut up or be less obvious.
>>51499132
XL2411Z. If you're going to get a fucking TN panel in the year 2015 it better fucking be 144Hz. Otherwise it's a huge waste of money.
>>51499148
found the cartoon lover
>>51499132
XL2411Z hands down.
144hz vs 75hz and you can also turn the display around without having to move the entire display.
>>51499132
Hey OP. Can you tell me why exactly you want one of these monitors? What is making you decide on a BenQ monitor specifically and why? I'm here to help. There is some serious fanboyism and retardation circulating in this thread. If you can give me the reasoning behind your choice and what you are looking for I can tell you what I can from my own knowledge and you can make your final decision being more informed.
trip to avoid getting mixed with the idiots.
>>51499169
he's is planning to play 30 fps games with his ps4 and people keep recommending shit tier 144hz tn panels to him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlUHBQDlYgA
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/pulse_width_modulation.htm
don't get why people don't take pwm free seriously.
why aren't they making OLED monitors yet?
>>51499169
Here's my situation:
I want to transition from a TV to a monitor for console gaming.
In terms of monitors, I currently use a U2412M by dell on my PC and it's 16:10 and stretches the image. Also if I were to suck it up and use it anyway, i wouldn't have a monitor for my pc unless i switched the cable manually each time. also, i don't want to buy an HDMI switch because it degrades the image and switching inputs using a switch is potentially dangerous.
I'm deciding on benq because I dont trust asus, HP, or LG for quality. Also benq tailors their monitors for gamers so it just makes sense
Preferably i want it to be over 75hz as its probably going to be my main PC monitor in a few years.
>>51498445
Hi OP.
I've had different monitors in my past and currently got my friend into buying this
http://www.amazon.ca/LG-23MP75HM-P-23-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitors/dp/B00JTGVHK8/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448334899&sr=1-2&keywords=LG+monitor
all i can say is that it is an excellent choice for very little money. IPS with beautiful colors, 75HZ, slim bezels, vesa compatible and 2x5Watt speakers which are somewhat usefull when you just own headphones like my friend does
>>51498445
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160177
dunno if anyone has reviewed them side to side
>>51499281
the lack of popularity and reviews is a red flag for me.
also it being out of stock means amazon doesnt care to supply it because its not profitable for them.
>>51499353
to be fair, their floating stand and almost bezel free monitors are quite new to the market and making them not dedicated to gamers doesn't get them as much of attention i suppose
>>51499282
i'm this shill >>51498804 and i too looked at the AOC one before i got my benq.
like you, i ended up going with the benq because i like benq more. the asus model isn't pwm free and felt more flimsy, and the AOC... well i don't have much experience with them. benq really jumped on the 144hz, pwm free bandwagon and has done a great job at it. i know they have released four new firmware versions over the years to update the XL2411Z so they really support their monitors. the latest one really took care of blur issues and made it near nonexistent.
the only other one i looked at seriously was the philips 242G5DJEB
>>51499246
For starters, you can use that ultrasharp for your console if you just use DVI for your PC. You can leave both plugged in and easily switch via the monitor's menu.
ASUS, LG, and ACER are all top tier monitor manufacturers (in this day and age). HP is utter shit. ASUS and ACER are in constant competition for the latest and greatest gaming monitors, with ASUS having a slight edge and better reputation. LG on the other hand has shifted their focus to high quality ultrawide 21:9 monitors. ASUS is especially known for tailoring their displays to gamers, with ACER coming in 2nd, and LG 3rd.
While it is true that BenQ was once known as an iconic gaming brand, they have stagnated. Their main selling point was high refresh rate displays in an age when the competition was behind. Their existing products are still good for what they are but they haven't made notable advances in years.
Onto the subject of making it your future main monitor now. Your current monitor is a good monitor. There's hardly a reason to replace it unless you are going all out with this new one. The ultrasharp series' biggest flaw is the higher response times. If this is noticeable and bothers you then I can see wanting to replace it though.
(continued in next post)
I want a gsync monitor but after owning a 27", 1440p, IPS korean monitor, its hard to settle for smaller size or a TN panel just for gsync.
also gsync monitors are pricey as fuck still. sort of regret not getting an AMD since freesync monitors seem to be around $200 cheaper than their gsync counterpart.
>>51499353
i mean see this for example.. amazon is not the reference shop of my choice either way. you might want to check other retailers in your country
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-Electronics-23MP75HM-P-23MP75HQ-P-Monitor/dp/B00I3GJ6IK
>>51498708
What the fuck are you trying to future proof it for? PC gaming is the only thing that can use a monitor refresh rate higher than 60 Hz.
Just find a good deal on a 1080p IPS instead of shit you're not going to use.
>>51499382
gsync, the way its meant to be jewd.
you can thank nvidia.
>>51499376
this guy knows what's up
>>51499224
Costs a fuckton of money and static images are no bueno.
>>51498445
120/144hz is my favourite gamer meme
>>51499404
some of the cost is hardware associated with Nvidia technology needed to make gsync work. It is not exxxxactilly nvidya making companies pony up 200 sheckles to use a name.
>>51499376
Now to talk about console gaming. You are not going to get very much use out of a display above 60Hz. The highest performing console games are capped at 60FPS. Buying a high refresh rate monitor isn't going to give you very much at all for your console gaming. However if you want a high refresh rate display NOW for your PC GAMING, you can hook up your console + PC to it and switch inputs at will (DVI/HDMI) and then this would be a good purchase, as long as you ACTUALLY HAVE THE GPU TO BACK IT UP. Remember, if you aren't running your games at above 60FPS you aren't seeing much of a difference with a 144Hz display.
If you however do not have a problem with your ultrasharp, and still want a good monitor for your console gaming, and you understand it's probably not going to be replacing your ultrasharp as your main in the future, then your best bet is an IPS display. IPS displays generally fall under a 60Hz refresh rate and a 4~5ms response time, which is more than enough for all but the most fast paced PC gaming. As a result the colors will be more vivid.
Do you have a laptop by any chance? Bring up the same image on your laptop and your ultrasharp monitor and notice the color differences. If you game on your console with an IPS display you will gain that and lose practically nothing compared to a 144Hz TN display.
Also keep in mind the resolution. No console game is going over 1080p. You can generally find an excellent 60Hz IPS 1080p monitor for under $200.
>>51499376
OP here.
Thanks for the response.
When you say i can just use the ultrasharp for the console, do you understand that it stretches the image vertically to accomodate 16:10?
Also, although I do use DVI on my PC, the ultrasharp doesnt have an HDMI in or another DVI, thereore, no monitor menu input switching. Also I would like to have both pc and ps4 visible at the same time (i.e. 2 monitor config). to add to this, my wear and tear OCD on the monitor buttons would kill me.
I looked up my dell and i agree its a great monitor.
in terms of acer/asus, sure they have the technology, but i just feel like build quality is poor. i could be wrong
>>51499465
you are with pwm free
>>51499452
that's what they want you to believe
>the way it's meant to be proprietary
is there a 27in IPS 1440p monitor with 120hz refresh rate?
cant justify going to a TN panel because the colors looks horrible
no gsync because fuck those kikes
>>51499724
just get 60hz you retard
>>51499519
Yes. I just meant you can do it without some external HDMI switch if you really wanted to. I looked up the model and it states it has both DVI and HDMI. Interesting. On a side note, DVI doesn't have audio so it wouldn't be a viable option for the PS4 anwyays.
Moving onto the topic at hand, Acer and ASUS can have excellent build quality depending on the specific monitor. They obviously make much cheaper items than BenQ, like $110 budget monitors and such a thing would come with a really crappy stand, etc. They also make monitors with excellent build quality. Remember, these are very big companies that make products for a wide range of customers.
An example of a decent monitor for your needs is Acer's H6 series which comes in 21.5, 23, and most ideally, 27" sizes. These are known for their very glossy and colorful displays while maintaining decent 5ms response times (but note this is NOT VESA mount compatible). Even if the stand is not the most feature filled the display really delivers.
On the other hand if you want your PC and console to share a monitor, and want to convert to 144Hz on your PC, then BenQ actually does offer some of the best solutions, especially with their XL2411Z among others.
I'll just say this
If you want 144Hz for your PC and also share the monitor with your console but know it's not the best console experience, get the BenQ stuff.
If you want to have a dedicated PC and dedicated console monitor, get something like the Acer H6 H276HLbmid
>>51499724
ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
Acer Predator XB270HU
Asus MG279Q
>>51499246
>i don't want to buy an HDMI switch because it degrades the image and switching inputs using a switch is potentially dangerous
Explain
pls
>>51499829
ok so heres the thing, my current dell i discovered is an IPS and researching TN displays tells me it would be a downgrade to go with anything but an IPS.
Does benq make an ips monitor under 400$?
my monitor only have VGA and HDMI.
been using HDMI with the PC, but i really want to leave the HDMI port to console, will be VGA bad for the PC only?
>>51499958
switching when the power is on (monitor) can damage it.
making the hdmi go through a separate device will create input lag or other problems
>>51500041
vga is shit man
>>51500048
They are normally produced by splitters.
switches only change the direction of the output signal to another, should not produce lag, it is the same as using an extension
>>51499985
Hence why I said the Ultrasharp is already a great monitor. LIke I said earlier if you happen to have a lower quality display like that on a typical laptop do a side by side comparison with the same image and see the difference.
Yes, BenQ does make some IPS monitors. The GW series stuff. Note that the GW series monitors are NOT marketed at gamers. I have absolutely no idea how they will perform for gaming. They are marketed at photo / content editors. Their 1080p model, the BenQ GW2760HS is NOT AN IPS panel, but a VA panel. This is a halfway point between the two and was for the most part a failed experiment. VA panels have good specs on paper but in the real world most people are dissatisfied with them. It also doesn't look to have the same type of build quality as their gaming high refresh rate TN stuff, and the stand is horrible.
Their 1440p model, the GW2765HT, is actually an IPS display and has a better stand but costs way more and is 1440p so it's completely wasted on a console. It might be a decent compromise as a monitor you use for both PC and gaming though. The increased resolution would be a nice addition to your PC as a main monitor and it's still an IPS panel. Both of these have VESA mounting holes.
In short BenQ offers no 1080p IPS solution. Consider this. Do your ultrasharp's response times bother you at all in games? If not you could also consider one for your console as they have good build quality and good stands.
just let the poor op get a second display dedicated to his ps4.
he clearly doesn't want the hassle of switching back and forth.
if its going to be used purely as a gaming display then it doesn't matter if its ips or tn unless your extremely anal about everything.
really op just get a $170 24in tv for your ps4.
if you really want a monitor then the benq is great for 144hz. pretty much the best for a tn panel. any cheap ass ips monitor now is great if all you want is viewing angels and contrast ratios.
Are the Ps4 gonna catch up to Pc and play in 4k 120Fps anytime soon?
Is it worth paying $100 more for a monitor with Free sync if I never plan to use AMD? Does it still have adaptive sync for movies and stuff when used with Nvidia or is it just better to get a monitor without?
>>51500839
Even the PS5 won't do 4K. MAYBE just MAYBE the PS6 might do 4K 30FPS content
>>51500886
nvidia has no plans to use freesync since they have their own proprietary gsync.
only amd and intel support freesync.
>>51498823
Why does the XL2411Z have its input lag listed as "N/A"? Even if it's 0, it's an input lag, right? Also according to Google its input lag is like 5-15ms. Please explain?
>>51500938
Will 4k movies have screen tearing without free/G-sync?
>>51501041
>XL2411Z
>>51501084
Response time isn't the same thing as input lag. Also this isn't helpful in general, please try to rise above being a memester for the sake of the board.
>>51501041
http://www.displaylag.com/what-is-input-lag-the-breakdown/
>input lag and response time are not the same thing. Response time is the gray to gray duration, basically how fast the monitor changes colors. Input lag is how long it takes the monitor to display an image in comparison to a CRT. Input lag is never advertised. A 10ms input lag is VERY GOOD!
>>51501107
Uh.. agreed..
>>51501066
i don't notice any screen tearing with my none gsync / freesync 144hz monitor. in anything.
some people are overly sensitive. others are not.
I use a 23" acer IPS monitor, and it's beautiful for casual gaming. I don't play CS:GO or anything like that. I think they're going for like 100-150 bucks right now.
>>51498445
>What else should I be looking for?
decent colour reproduction, good blacks, good input latency, good viewing angles, no bullshit which gives different hues near the borders..
i'll never get over the greatest tech ever released. plasma t.vs, please come back...please
>>51501158
tn vs ips?
i want to get the benq XL2411Z but its tn
does it really matter?
im gona buy it tomorrow and return if its shitty
>>51501218
It's not bad if you use the calibration software Display Pilot. It makes the colors look decent, not accurate by any rate but good enough for image viewing.
When I first got my monitor I thought it was fucked up because a friend sent me a dark picture and it was almost 90% black on my screen and I had to look at it on another monitor.
What's a good monitor under 32' that's has at least 3 hdmi, 1-3 ms response time and 120hz refresh rate. under 300$ if possible and has good reproduction of colors and blacks.
120hz/144hz isnt completely useless for consoles if you will be watching movies or blurays because these numbers divide evenly into 24 and the 3:2 pulldown or judder you see on a 60hz screen is eliminated
