>How to request purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>$200 and under headphones:
http://pastebin.com/CCQCUv5e
>$200 and over headphones:
http://i.airi.su/hpg.png
>Earphones /g/uide:
http://pastebin.com/QQ4Gp7bQ
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>51456187
First for HD600 master race
>>51466713
HD600 for shit tier
>>51466616
>Symmetra
my nigga
>>51466713
That nice Neutrik jack is wasted on such a shitty pair of headphones
Can anyone tell me if the takstar pro80s are usuable on android phones?
>£60
>UK
>PC/android
>Full sized
>don't mind
>maximum
>Preferred tonal balance
>Rock/Acoustic stuff
If it helps I need comfortable headphones for being lazy listening to music/ using as a headset with my mic
Am I supposed to change this to the highest quality?
>>51467108
What's the point of it? My DAC (modi2) states on the site that it supports 24/96 and 24/192. What's the point?
>>51467244
pleasing placebophiles. if you tried to sell a 16/44.1 dac these days nobody would buy it
>>51467368
Is this guy full of shit?
>>51467073
>>51467244
16 bit and 44.1kHz. Someone told me there's no difference in losing sound quality if you use either 16 or 24 bit. 44.1Khz is used because who the fuck can hear above 20kHz? Can you? http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/hearingloss.html
This video explains unless you live in outer space you can use anything above 16 bit 44.1kHz https://youtu.be/nLEhfieoMq8?t=7m26s
>>51467397
Is there a test lke that that doesn't require flash? I don't want to install that cancer
>>51467380
yes, we're not fucking bats and setting your output to 96/192 means you're telling windows to upsample anything that isn't already 96/192 which will make it sound worse
>>51467411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf9nzvnd1k
![square_louped_hd_419_01_sq_music_portable_sennheiser[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/0usxdyx.png "square_louped_hd_419_01_sq_music_portable_sennheiser[1].png")
Seiheuser HD419 any good?
I've had mine for a few years now and it's still going strong.
>>51467417
the bassy frequencies sound great
>>51467380
>>51467397
This video says 24bit only matters if you're listening in a vacum/isolated sound room
So... what if you're listening with fucking headphones?
>>51467073
>>51467397
>>51467414
Where can you see the frequency of a given music file? I only see the bit rate
Sondy MDR-7506, Philips SHP9500 or BrainWavz HM5?
>>51467073
what would this settings do if you change it? I always tried and nothing felt different
>>51467567
http://spek.cc/
oh man...
>>51467685
Nothing in windows file info says it?
>>51467697
What does windows file have to do with checking the frequency? Try using the freeware ffs. Windows file will only tell you the maximum sample rate and bit rate.
>>51467737
I thought the 44100hz is also frequency, where do I see that?
What does 320kbps mean compared to 16bit/44hz
>>51467468
I've had mine for a few years now and it's still going strong.
>>51467073
depends on your source..
>>51467759
44100hz is how high your music file can go up to. It still means it could be any frequency inside it eg. a small sized mp3 file capped at 14kHz but still fucking says 44.1kHz.
I don't know how to explain your other question but 320kbps CBR constant bit rate, .mp3 v0 VBR variable bit rate, and .flac all sound the same.
>>51467873
What's the point of flac?
>>51467873
44.1khz sample rate does not mean it can go up to 44.1khz frequencies
>>51467690
>I'm an editor...
>>51467880
Lossless format whereas mp3 is lossy.
>>51468147
Which translates to my hearing how?
>>51468163
it doesn't rot when it sits on your computer over long time
>>51467891
Yes. You're right http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Sample_Rates
>>51468163
A proper 320kbps mp3 encode from flac will sound the same as flac.
Lossy to lossy encodes is when problems occur.
I picked up the Philips Fidelio X2
Where do you guys get your music I've been using youtube this whole time
>>51468354
With the lack of fidelity on the Fidelio X2, it doesn't matter where you get your music.
>>51468478
They sure are comfy though
>>51468354
Rutracker and what.cd
>all these people thought 44.1k sample rate meant the frequency it could hit or some retarded shit
what the hell people? is it always this bad when americans are still sleeping?
>there are people itt who haven't even heard about sampling theorem
For anyone who does understand bit depths and sample rates in audio, watch this:
https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml
>>51463321
Yes you should. The stock gain is pointless in the combo unit.
>>51468666
But anon, the sample rate of the file tells you just that. A 44.1KHz file can have signals reaching up to 22.05KHz according to the Nyquist's sampling theorem.
>>51468234
This is bullshit
>>51468328
So what's the point of flac?
>>51468890
Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.
I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.
>>51468926
>Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps.
Does it show in the file info?
>>51468890
An archival format.
>>51468943
Anon...
>>51468943
>>51468926
I see, that's probably the reason why I dislike most of music I was obsessed about in previous years.
I have a pair of AKG 550s, should I get a sound card, if I should, I need one for under £100, would it be worth it?
Can't decide between DT770 80ohm and AKG K550s... Can anybody lend some help?
>>51469339
K550 sounds better but you might run into sealing problems. DT 770 has better comfort and probably better isolation too.
dt 770 pro or custom one pro? Probably not going to take them outside but profile switching sounds interesting and it costs the same.
Is the Sony MDR-V55 any good for a person that it need to use it for alot of hours is it any comfortable. Currently i use Ozone Rage ST
>>51469212
If you think you need one/ your source is shit then yes
Buy a fiio DAC or something
Hifiman are having a Black Friday sale from 23rd to 30th. HE560 for $699 and HE400i for $299
>>51469698
Hifiman = shit
My new K612 are clamping too hard. Is there any chance this will get better over time? It's like my skull is being crushed.. They sound really great so I wouldn't want to send them back.
Everyone go into facebook and like the page "headphone addicts"
>>51469411
DT770 bro..
>>51469698
this will be international r-right?
>>51468478
The Fidelio X2 are so good and unforgiving they will point out any small difference between a 320 kbps Opus and a Flac or even between a poorly encoded Flac and the source file. Stop pirating music and start listening to CDs or even vynils.
>>51469980
2/10
>>51469980
as much as this might be a meme, low bitrate shit sounds way worse in my x2s than my 880s. just sayin
>>51470042
It's a meme for just those who blindly believe that X2 isn't this good.
when we say "mids," is there an exact range thats spoken of and established? is it 2-5khz as thats what were most sensitive to? or no? i feel like 5k is getting a bit high for a mid, but what do i know
>>51470283
Mids range from 250 hz to 5 khz
really that low? shit mane
>>51469786
Is there any hope left, or am I fucked?
>>51470385
Next time you'd better collect the measures of your head before buying a new heapdhone.
>>51470510
And with that I can magically calculate the contact pressure of the headpieces? Show me your ways master.
GOING TO BUY HEADPHONES TOMORROW. WHAT SHOULD I BUY? 350 DOLLARS AND I WANT SOMEEE NEUTRAL HEADPHONES WITH SOME DEEP BASS BUT NOT TO MUCH. THEY NEED TO BE COMFORTABLE AS FUCK
>>51467629
If the file is the same bitrate, it'll play it how it is. If it's lower, like 44.1 but your computer is set to 192, it'll upscale it. Which doesn't improve sound quality, and will probably introduce artifacts in the audible spectrum, since the conversion isn't perfect.
>>51470746
HE400i
is there any IEM guide that is legit
>>51469705
I collect tho...
>>51470945
collect what?
>>51470951
Headphones
>>51471002
can i have some?
>>51470759
Colored shit.
>>51471060
Just like all other headphones.
>>51469373
the sealing issue can be fixed easily (pic related)
comfort is dependant on head shape (just like sealing)
So if I want to try a better amp than my O2 what are my options under a budget of $1000 or less? I'm interested in the class A amp that Bob Katz uses in Big Sound 2015 but AFAIK, it's DIY only no? The measurements look superb.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/katzs-corner-episode-8-my-current-affair
>>51469786
Just stretch the headband or let your skull used to it.
Philips X2/27 Fidelio or the new Audio Technica R70x? Primarily for music but also for gayming like CS
>>51471475
dude, theres no difference. anything you think you would hear is because it's just coloring the audio
>>51467397
>>51467629
>>51470752
Is this shit for real /hpg/?
>>51471577
go play some more rocket league melody
anyone have experience with these?
a lot of mixed reviews on Amazon
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k267-tiesto-dj-headphones/talk
>>51471505
The problem is, that I'm used to wear a Sennheiser PC151 which only weights 200gramm and is on-ear. I have got a Superlux HD681 as well and have no problems wearing it for a longer time (but I hate the heating issues due to them being semi-closed).
>>51471600
Can you provide a justification please? I could just flip a coin if I wanted to choose one arbitrarily
>>51471577
HD 600 because it's higher fidelity
>>51471645
Good sound quality, shitty build quality
>>51471711
well, hes here
guess ill see you guys next thread
Do mp3's really degrade with time?
>>51471684
X2 is fun, the R70x isnt just like the hd600
>>51471762
Everything you said in that post was meaningless to me
>>51471790
Everything will meaningless if you dont try them yourself.
>>51470746
HD650.
>>51471799
can't tell if troll or just retarded. Anyway well played.
Unfortunately it's impossible for me to try either of them out
>>51471711
first of all, your debate should be between the hd600 or x2.
if you like accentuated bass and treble, for like pop and rap and techno, go with the x2s. if you like a flat, neutral response that stays true to the source of the music, get the hd600.
>>51471832
Why is the R70X not part of the debate?
>>51471669
The heating issues is caused by pleather pads, not the semi-closed design though.
>>51471843
because they dont have measurements by any reputable source, as theyre still pretty new. theres no reason to buy them as you would be making a completely blind decision. unless thats okay with you, but then coming here to ask isnt very helpful, as we CANT do it in this case, unless someone here has them and has also listened to the other headphones we would recommend to compare them
>>51471830
X2 does not need an amp
R70x does need an amp
X2 has build a good reputation
R70x is fairly new with much less feedback and reviews
X2 is cheaper
R70x is more expensive
X2 has a more fun sound
R70x is more neutral
>>51471859
Then I'll be the pioneer and get them. Will report here how they are but unfortunately I only have Ad700's to compare
>>51471864
X2 is also over 150 grams heavier! No thanks jim
>>51471882
sounds good, good luck m8
>>51471894
Watch out we have a 12yo 40kg guy here
Okey so now I would like to really get some answers and I want all of u headphone faggots to help me out!
I want some headphones for hip hop, trap and dubstep listening but the thing is that I don't want alot of bass or wobbling bass, I want more neutral sound with some deep bass but not to much.
People has suggested me the X2 and HD650 but the thing is that I think the HD650 are a bit to expensive for my budget and the X2 are not comfortable. The headband on the X2 are so loose so my head are pushing them up because of the headphones not having any fucking clamping forcentre at all so that makes the pads being under my ears and that is so fucking annoying.
Some people founded me a way to fix the X2 headband shit thing but I'm not sure if that would help it.
Ive been testing the HD600 out and I did really like them but people are up in my ass with the "nobass" memes..
Now I want you fucking people to help me and suggest me some headphones I can buy.
>>51471907
If you like it just buy it faggot. Why did you seek approval from this shithole?
>>51471906
call me a 12 yr old all you want, but when you routinely have your cans on for 8 - 10 hours at a time, even the smallest amounts of fatigue and discomfort add up.
>>51471907
Its not the fault of the X2, its your fucking small head. For everyone with a normal head size (motorcycle helmet M or L) the X2 is perfect and the HD600 clamp is head grueling.
>>51471939
Stfu and thank you sir
>>51471953
No. I want alot of clamping force! That the thing. I like it
>>51471947
After you used the X2 for week you will have enough neck muscles so that it will not brother you anymore.
>>51471982
I bet you also get off by getting other men to punch and kick you hard in the balls
>>51471581
If that's true then why there are higher end amps available out there? Even the O2 itself has upgrade modules.
>>51471953
Besides Im using a L helmet on my moto
>>51472017
Then you are a real masochist
>>51472011
the same reason dodge's "hemi" engine exists.
the same reason $300 hdmi cables exist.
people are retarded and think it matters, so a market exists for them
>>51472033
I don't really know what that means but sure ok
>>51472075
this person is literally 12
>>51472084
Actually 19 but yeah sure
>>51472090
are you a vegan/vegetarian?
>>51472115
>>51471992
>>51472097
No.
>>51471907
Get the HD600 then faggot.
You tried it, you liked it.
>>51472127
guess you just got the shit end of the genetic variance spectrum. or your parents are stupid as fuck too, thus making it an average genetic pass. not that the difference between the aforementioned scenarios matter
>>51472149
>>51471939
You're right
>>51471907
X2 are far far better than the overpriced AM radio-like HD 600
X2 shills sure are desperate.
>>51472217
>HD600 shills sure are desperate.
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-open-back-headphones-under-500/
HD600 BTFO
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>>51472167
Why someone isn't making durable headband for them though?
>>51472275
more money for snapheiser, if you buy a second pair.
HiFiMan HE400i master race
>>51472299
Colored shit.
>>51472299
>shit tier build quality reporting in
fixed it for you
>>51472243
HD600 in 2nd place beating X2 and DT880. Good job.
>>51472296
Even if my HD600 snaps (it won't because it's durable), I'll buy another because it's the best open headphone on the market due to its fidelity.
>>51472311
Dumb faggot
>>51472318
Dumb faggots' sidekick
Evening guys
>>51472323
>HD600 in 2nd place beating X2 and DT880. Good job.
X2 and DT880 are alteast 100$ cheaper and better build.
>Even if my HD600 snaps (it won't because it's durable), I'll buy another because it's the best open headphone on the market due to its fidelity.
>fidelity
Oh damn you got me, please get a trip so i can ignore you.
HD800 IS ON SALE ON AMAZON GUYS, IT IS THE TIME TO GET IT.
>>51472243
Fidelio X2:
>the bass sounds a little boomy to us; and the treble sounds a little too sizzly
>>51472453
But it is always on sale, called DT880
>>51471907
PEOPLE FOR GODSKE help me!!! Why are these knops fighting over HD600 and x2???? JUST TELL ME WHICH ONE I SHOULD GET! I like the X2 sound better but the comfortable let on hd600 more
>>51472462
>opinion from a hd600 fag
>>51472432
HD600 is more durable than the DT880 though.
>>51472471
Literally dogshit sibilant no mids inaccurate colored treble cannons.
>>51472243
>http://thewirecutter.com
>>51472511
>HD600 is more durable than the DT880 though.
What the fuck do you guys do for cable management on headphones with super long cables on them?
I love my Takstar Hi2050's but holy shit is this 8 foot cord starting to get on my nerves...
>>51472243
kek, they tested the DT880 but didn't even mention it in the writeup.
Literally trash tier headphones.
>>51472556
Buy a shorter one? Modify it
>>51472573
I do not trust my shaky hands with a soldering iron.
>>51472556
wrap it around your neck
>>51471894
the weight is distributed very well on the X2. It's still a sit at your desk headphone but comfort is on par with my 598 and mad dog, so excellent.
>>51472636
Then purchase a shorter wire.. if it is detachable
Can I use hm5 velor/leather pads on the X2?
Can everyone post their X2 modifications here!
why the fuck is this so expensive
>>51472243
Many journalists seem to like the HE-400S but there are only a handful of measurements available.
I'm not sure what to do.
>>51472871
there are good headphones at every price, anon.
>>51472894
Why
>>51472924
Well fuck it, HD600 is $320 and that's tempting. Do I hold out for black friday?
its perfect and comfy
question, how good/bad are these headphones?
>http://v-moda.com/crossfade-m-100/
>Budget
~ $200
>Location
Washington, USA
>Source
Sound Blaster Z sound card
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-Sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Want to be able to wear for a few hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral? (completely new to this, don't really have too much of an idea)
>Preferred music
Chill, Symphony, Pop, Rock
>Past headphones
Logitech G930 Headset, Sony MDR-XB500
I am completely new to headphones, I'm sick of shitty gaming headsets and plan on buying a decent pair of headphones on Black Friday / Christmas. I will be using these headphones for a combination of listening and [spoiler]gaming[/spoiler] so I'm not entirely sure what is good for both at my price range. I've heard the AD900x are a good set with a great sound stage. Tried out the HD598 at a local store and liked that sounds however it seemed a bit dark. Any help/advice would be appreciated, thank you!
>>51473104
are you fucking kidding me?
Hey /hpg/ does anyone know why equalizer APO will not work with Xonar essence ST cards/drivers in version 1.0, but 0.9.1 does work with them? It is also the case for unified drivers as well.
>>51473104
>spends $1500 on colored dynamic headphones
>uses a shit camera
A whole new level of pleb.
>>51473185
K612, it's brighter than HD598.
>>51473174
Good.
>>51473277
You have to reinstall APO for the device using the configuration file every time you update drivers. I had to do it for my realtek digital source today.
>>51473356
I meant that the drivers stayed the same, but different versions of APO work with the same driver.
Fresh installs after driver cleaner too.
>Budget
100$
>Location
Israel
>Source
Oneplus 2, might buy an amp for it to stop it from hissing
>Preferred type of headphone
In ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
wearing them for a couple hours without my head exploding would be nice
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, maybe a little bassy.
>Preferred music
/bleep/, rock, metal, vapour
>Past headphones
cx-300ii, ath-ad700x
would like to upgrade the cx300ii..... every time i plug them in a few seconds pass with me thinking something is wrong with them because they sound so aweful compared to the ath ones, which is to be expected, but id like to close the gap a little.
X2 > AKG K7XX >>>>> HD 600 >>>>>>>>>>> HE 400 S
>>51473447
>Oneplus 2, might buy an amp for it to stop it from hissing
you mean a dac then, fucking dumb jews
>>51470746
Open or closed?
>>51473454
highly doubt the k7xx is better than hd600, and highly doubt he400s is that bad
he400s > x2 > hd600 > k7xx
He-400i is going to be the black friday deal of the year right?
>>51473459
fine fine whatever
was going to buy a fiio q1 anyway
pls recommend headphones goy-kun
>>51473501
headphones? didnt you want in ears? and i dont know shit aboutem so someone else will have to take this ticket
>>51473474
he's a memespouting 17 year old, expect very little from him
> inb4 ...............
>>51473454
>>51473474
HD600 > K7XX > HE-400S > X2
HD600 is the most neutral therefore it's the best from an objective point of view.
>>51473511
im fucking up today
yes earphones
ive been looking at the sennheiser momentum g ones but
>100$ cost
>50$ shipping
>30$+ import charges
>>51473476
Why is that? Wouldn't you prefer the purportedly superior 400s?
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>>51473552
>>51473534
There are still people on /hpg/ thinking that neutral = best
>>>>>> /b/
>Budget
≥$50
>Location
'Merica
>Source
Android phone
>Preferred type of headphone
in ear
>Comfort level
as long as it doesn't fall out easily
>Preferred tonal balance
warm
>Past headphones
xiaomi piston 3. I liked em but they broke
>>51473612
Not the case at all, but simply listing a group of headphones in order of personal preference is bait at best, shitposting most likely.
At least give some reference in terms of rationale.
![ToqiGk[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/rGgo62r.png "ToqiGk[1].png")
i mean, this looks pretty good to me (400s)
Nice-sounding, comfortable and an affordable set of headphones that can easily be modded to reduce the amount of bassy-ness the headphones inherently have.
>>51467071
They're about <£40.
>>51473642
1) hearable bass
2) sub 300€
3) balance
4) clarity/instruments' separation
5) music enjoyment opposed to music analyzing
>>51467073
Definitely yes if you're a mantis
>>51473683
Have you tried dt880's? If so what did you think of them? They seem like they'd fit in with your preferences pretty well.
>>51473759
>dt880
Literally treble cannons.
Not worth considering and is made obsolete when it gets outperformed by $100 headphones.
At least stuff like the X2 isn't neutral and aims for a colored sig. DT880 is just a failure.
>>51467073
I find I have to set my essence ST card to 24 bit or I get audible hissing. It's quite [spoiler]problematic.[/spoiler]
>>51473759
Thnank you for the recommendation, but the X2 I own already grants me all of these things at the highest level.
Finally downloaded and A/B some FLAC's and my olde 128kps MP3s. Well...looks like the MP3s have zero low end and overall sound like shit. What do I do now? How can I safely get flacs without the torrent police cracking down on my ass like when I downloaded a harry potter movie?
>>51473787
Would you describe the k712 the same way when compared to the X2? I know they have a bump in the treble that can be somewhat disturbing to some people.
>>51473805
> How can I safely get flacs without the torrent police cracking down on my ass like when I downloaded a harry potter movie?
Where do you live?
>>51473818
The bump isn't as gigantic as the DT880's and at least the K712 has mids.
>>51473792
I can't tell who's who, but I guess you're the first poster in this train yes? The other guy seems to like labeling and dismissing headphones without justification or reason.
>>51473840
What I first wrote: >>51473454
My reasons: >>51473683
>>51473836
'murrica
>>51473837
Yeah that is one thing I remember the 880's lacking.
I'm wondering if the problem with my 712's is amplification, being that the only amp I have after my o2 power connector broke is the on board one from my essence ST. Do you think it would help with imaging/separation to buy a new amp?
>>51470746
HD 650
>>51473918
Fake boomy bass isn't enjoyment for me.
>>51473918
yeah I gathered that you were that guy, I just couldn't tell if you were also the dt880 memer "literally treble canons" as the two didn't seem to match up.
Ignore me, just being retarded.
>>51473923
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Don't pirate music, buy CDs and buy a X2: done.
>>51466601
Is it possible to get a closed black, decent sounding (preferable V shaped; kinda like the Xiaomi Piston IIs) pair of headphones that swivel in wards for around or less than 50 bucks.
>>51473925
Essence ST shouldn't sound any different than the O2. Amps never make a difference with imaging/separation.
>>51473951
K
>>51473949
> X2
> boomy
Check the English dictionary
>>51473988
X2 is boomy though.
Measurements prove this.
>>51473925
> Do you think it would help with imaging/separation to buy a new amp?
No, but if you buy a X2 you can have the best separation available and you don't need any amp :)
>>51473949
Fake bass? That doesn't actually mean anything. That implies that the low frequency range isn't actually bass, which by definition it is.
This is what I meant by memespouting, I just pointed the finger at the wrong poster it seems.
>>51473925
youre the dipshit from before who i told amps dont do this shit
just stop it you moron. or go ahead and buy it, and pick up yourself some hdmi cables and a fucking dodge hemi while youre at it you dumb nigger
>>51474020
How would you rate the hd600's separation and imaging in comparison to the x2? I've heard the 600's and have 712's, but I'm looking for something that gives a better "in front of the stage" feeling.
>>51473447
pls?
>>51473104
I'll give you my EQ to try out in a few hours when I'm back home. Maybe you like it even more soon.
>>51474061
lol not even the same poster
you're not even directing your impotent rage at the "right" person buddy
watching you fail this hard at trolling is pretty hilarious
but seriously, you seem like you're sad, go outside
>>51474012
> measurements = truth
> boomy = detailed and slightly enhanced bass
I want Golden Ears to leave.
>>51474021
Yeah don't even take >>51474012
>>51473949 into consideration. He's trying to sound brilliant when he clearly doesn't know what boomy means.
>>51474077
thanks mate. i plan to buy a new amp asap. My magni isnt enough for this but plan to buy some tube amp in the coming weeks
>>51474021
He probably means the additional of bass is fake to the source.
>>51474095
Measurements are the truth though.
>>51473447
xba-100
>>51474076
I'm pricing in $AUD for this, because I don't know american prices.
You're comparing $70 earbuds designed for phones to a pair of headphones costing $150-200. Of course the AD700x are going to sound better by far.
If you want to upgrade to something better you'll probably need to spend more than $100 to get comparable sound to the AD700x.
That said I'm no expert on buds, so I'd probably just recommend you go to a site like innerfidelity and look at their recommended IEMs.
>>51474085
>>51474113
sir you almost forgot your hdmi cables! wouldnt want to waste that 300 on nothing right?
>>51474134
its obvious to me that the iems are much worse and will always be, i just want something that is better than the cx300ii i have for the gap to feel smaller.
>>51474064
I own a X2 and its "in front of the stage" vibe is amazing. As for the HD 600, don't even bother about it unless you're a sound engineer or you mean to analyze music instead of enjoying it.
>>51474064
HD600's balance of sound is very good and as a result the separation and imaging is accurate.
Better than K712 and X2 for sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262152580858?rmvSB=true
whats the catch?
>>51474163
> good balance - - - - - > good separation
>>51474121
And to those who say measurements can't tell you the whole story? You don't think there exists a single piece of audio equipment that tests differently to how it sounds in an actual listening test? Are you denying the possibility completely or saying that you haven't yet found a pair of headphones whose measurements are different to your experience with them?
Either way what you're saying is an entirely subjective thing posing as objectivity. It's not even a valid argument.
>>51474162
I'm very analytically minded, and enjoy that aspect of interpreting and understanding music composition, so maybe they are the cans for me after all. I just wish I could find an opportunity to test the x2 myself.
Q701 will be $99 this black friday.
>>51474223
Measurements are a truth. Dummy heads don't tell lies like 'in front of the stage vibe is amazing'.
>>51474246
not either of those two fagtrons, but you should probably buy the he-400s
>>51474163
Do you mean balance as in L/R stereo? Or that the neutrality of the hd600's sound signature in effect makes its stereo imaging better?
>>51474259
Still overpriced.
>>51474271
I had forgotten that possibility. Thanks for reminding me. I'll keep my ears open.
Have heard they're neutral like the hd600 but posess superior imaging and separation? Is that an accurate description?
>>51474271
lol
Good alternative to K612? I need something more comfortable and with a little bit more bass (which doesn't exist on the 612). DT990 seem to have too high treble, so maybe a DT880 edition? Or something else entirely, but I would want to stay at about 200€.
>>51474266
So in lieu of being able to actually answer questions and argue your point your response is "trust me I'm right".
You might be thinking you're more qualified to say these things than you actually are.
