So I started collecting laserdiscs about a year ago, and since then have amassed a collection of over 200 discs. I feel good about the investment (only paid an average of $1 per disc) but my only worry about the future of keeping the alive is the simple fact that the players are all going to become extinct (they are already basically endangered thanks to ebay).
So /g/, tell me if this idea is out of the bounds of reason for something that could actually sell and/or revive physical media.
Bring back the laserdisc format. I think one of the biggest reasons people aren't investing in physical media over over digital these days is because the packaging for dvds and blu-rays don't seem worth the investment over the convenience of downloading a digital copy. Another problem with blu-ray is that people are beginning to realize that it is not the definitive format to last into the distant future like people thought when it first came out. So why doesn't the industry make one last ditch effort to sell a definitive physical media that will last at least two to three decades into the future?
I honestly think that physical aspect of the laserdiscs could make this possible. Think about it, you have 12" of surface space, two sides to double the maximum capacity, a durable and well made disc resistant to dirt and scratches. You've got packaging that is even better than vinyl (you might scoff at this, but i guarantee people would buy them on this fact alone). It could be very easily marketable, and make the new players not only play the old laserdisc formats CLV and CAV (upscaled) but also a new "HDV" format:
*4k-8k resolution
*200-400GB per side
*lossless audio w/ LPCM, dolby true hd and dts-hd
*limitless number of digital audio tracks
Does anyone think this idea makes any sense? Would you feel better investing your money in something that is bigger, better and will last longer physically and in the media market?
The only thing worth watching on laserdisc is old subbed anime releases from the late 80s.
You ARE watching classic subbed anime, right?
>>51406236
Could be a competitor for Blu-ray Ultra HD but what wouldn't, it's dead in the water already.
Whether or not it's do-able with a cost-effective advantage over simply making another small disc format is another story.
Nobody really cares about dinosaur physical formats except for collectors.
If you can get imperceivably similar quality from a digital download, then why wouldn't you?
Anyways, your idea will never happen, because nowadays every physical media format requires some form of DRM, from Audio CDs to Blurays.
You also have a bunch of dinosaur codecs implemented into the standard. Sure, weebs will use it, but they're immediately going to change it out for FLAC or whatever the hell is in vogue.
>>51406236
> in ten years
> factory written read-only USB 4.0 pen drives capable of storing more than 1TB of 16k HD video with production cost of today's DVDs conquer the media market
> less than 0.5% of nostalgic disk-lovers hoard the unwieldy video disks
>>51406314
Collectors have been the bulk of the market for physical media since the rental market died. There is no way physical media stands a chance unless it is sold under a market that prioritizes collect-ability over practicality because downloading and streaming will be the most practical thing for most people from this point on into the future.
>>51406410
video games
>>51406346
>16k TVs in 10 years
>people caring about the difference between 8k and 16k displays that can fit in their living room
>>51406410
>downloading and streaming will be the most practical thing
>being sold a single-user license to watch movie/play game and not a physical item you can lend, share, sell or give away to others
good goy
>>51406236
I would buy this proposed new format, as long as it's fucking DRM free and doesn't contain trailers before the movie. That's the main reason I pirate movies, I don't want to pay to get fucked in the ass. You buy a CD, put it in your player and you hear music. You buy a record, put it on your turntable, drop the needle on it and you hear music. You buy a DVD/BD, put it in your player, and you have to wait 10 minutes through copyright warnings and unskipable trailers.
>>51406473
>physical item you can lend, share sell or give away
those are incentives for people to collect media, but not incentives for the average consumer to consume the content on said media.
>>51406677
>average consumer
>content
>consume media
Holy fuck, those consumerist fucks got you good.
When the fuck did dehumanizing economics jargon like "consume content" replace "watching a movie"?
You sound like a fucking machine.
>>51406676
That was one of the best things about laserdisc. You put the disc in, there's 1-2 distributor logos and the movie starts. In addition, there was nothing to prevent you from skipping forward or anything like w/ dvd, no region coding or any other lockout shit.
Another great thing about laserdisc was how fast and smooth you could scan the video, all the way down to frame-by-frame with no digital compression artifacts (because it was analog video). To this day I don't believe there is a format that is capable of such precision.
If you were to revive the format with HD, I would imagine that it would have to be digital video however, there could be a dedicated way that the laser reads the data like it did before, from the inside of the disc outward. I'm not up on the technical side of how digital optical media is read, but if you could replicate how old laserdiscs were read, i'm sure you could get the same results with those advantages that the format had.
>30cm in diameter
Not gonna happen OP.
>>51406730
the reason i used that term, is that it now applies to every aspect of media including games and music. when someone pays another person to be entertained they are consuming the entertainment that they paid for. there's nothing dehumanizing about a term involving the trade of goods or services. It's not like we're calling a sex worker or escort a whore or hooker or anything like that, but so what if we did. At the end of the day the bitch sells sex for money just like hollywood sells you piles of steaming shit for money, and we consume those piles of shit with fistfuls of cash and smiles on our faces!
>>51406918
>it now applies to every aspect of media including games and music
Alright, mr. consumer whore.
You realize this harmful mentality is the reason why anti-consumer things like DRM and region locking exist, right?
They view you with contempt. You're a dumb sheep ready for their next shearing.
>You shouldn't be able to buy a movie cheaper from the country next to yours, fuck you. Your DVD players only work with your country's movies.
>>51406236
Please tell me how a reader for this would fit in my pc or any other device, also tell me how the cost would be remotely viable, the space taken up by these worth it, and the quality being superior.
Oh wait.................you can't
>>51406987
This is the OP btw, and you couldn't be more wrong about the way i see it. I am in total agreement with you on everything you said. The main reason I support physical media is to prevent a digital-only market that is dictated and controlled by the greedy distributors. The ability to invest in tangible media that contains digital content is in jeopardy, and of course they want it that way. I don't really see why using the same language that they do is going to do any harm. If anything, it will help people to understand what the market situation is, and what their role as the "buyer" is to prevent it from happening sooner rather than later. But to think that physical media will always exist is just wishful thinking. At least we can try to make it last longer into our lifetimes.
>>51406283
I don't watch Korean cartoons stuffed with creepy sexual undertones usually involving underage kids. Fuck off, pedo.
>>51407099
Laserdiscs are the same size as LPs (a little bit smaller, actually), they're not enormously large.
>>51407194
>>51406236
>*200-400GB per side
so the combined sides of the entire disk, would just barely match blueray discs from five years ago..
pretty sure they even managed to make 2tb bluerays the year after showcasing the first 1tb disc..
>>51406236
You're a fuckin idiot.
Nobody wants this shit. There is a reason nobody makes them anymore.
Even if there is a retarded ass cult following including you, similar to the cards that collect vinyl, most people don't even want physical copies of shit.
You will push content formats that take even more space than our current content for a negligible difference in quality, at least on our current TV consumer tech.
tl;dr - Rule 6
>>51406236
It doesn't matter how much it can hold.
THE PRICE FOR THE MEDIA ON THE PHYSICAL DISC IS ALWAYS TO HIGH FOR IT TO BE ADOPTED FOR TIMES TO COME PERIOD.
There is nothing more to it,there has to be serious price drop if anything is here to say.
>>51407297
>if you aren't a brainwashed consumer of DRM encumbered streaming shit, you're an idiot
>>51406872
>vinyl
>21st century
not gonna happen xD
>>51407395
>let's revive an old format nobody wants
Nah, fuck you kid.
Netflix/AmazonPrime/Hulu/Popcorntime/Torrents is all you need.
Physical copies does not mean you own it. Enjoy watching your ads and 14 FBI warnings while I can just hit play and watch.
>>51407243
http://gizmodo.com/sony-crams-3-700-blu-rays-worth-of-storage-in-a-single-1571508568
lel OP if you want to go retro, at least get something that's actually good.
those laserdiscs are both dumb and gay, and redundant.
>>51407530
WOOH. gotem
also cable. good ol basic cable is bangin
>>51407530
>Physical copies does not mean you own it
Walk into your local record store, thrift shop or any other store that buys and sells used media for profit and tell them that.
>>51407931
>record store
That doesn't have built in ads, anon.
>>51407677
Just because current technology makes something possible doesn't mean that the media that uses that technology can currently be manufactured in a cost-effective enough way to make the format marketable.
One of the advantages of going back to laserdisc is the physical size. You could fit the same amount of data per cm of space that is on say a regular blu-ray disc, possibly even with multiple layers, but since a 12" laserdisc has 4-5 times the amount of physical space, the production cost of the discs would be comparable to what a standard blu-ray costs to produce but with way more space for higher quality video and audio.
