>asus laptop

Just based on reputation, Lenovo is probably better

>>51245579
yes lenovo goes great with telemetry and build-in backdoors.

>>51245588
>not running Linux on Lenovo hardware

>>51245612
>buying hardware from companies that install spyware on them by default

>>51245630
>caring about software when you're gonna replace it anyway

>>51245630
>implying every craptop company doesn't install proprietary Spyware

Find me one that doesn't, please.

>>51245681
So you support the business practice?
>>51245701
I'm sure there are a few, unless you consider Windows spyware. Because nobody is going to sell Linux laptops ever.

>>51245721
>unless you consider Windows spyware
Not him, but it is.

>>51245630
So basically anything with Windows?

>>51245732
do you build your own hardware and write your own software?

>>51245740
It's public knowledge that Windows 10 comes with built in keystroke logging & additional telemetry, I'm not going to have this redundant conversation with you.

>>51245760
I am aware of that, not denying it. My point is that on top of the operating system Lenovo willingly put spyware in their machines, and you seem to be fine with this ergo you buy their products.

>>51245721
No, I'm critical of all spyware, but just about every manufacturer does some type of dumb shit with their bloatware and nowadays Windows just amounts to spyware in itself. So when buying a laptop I'm only looking at hardware (since I replace everything above UEFI software-wise anyway) and Lenovo is pretty solid in that regard.

>>51245828
>lenovo is pretty solid gear
Once again I beg to differ, their consumer line-up is terrible. Only their business products are good, just lik HP and Dell.

In the pice-range of the OP, given he wants a new product, he shouldn't be looking at Lenovo. What he should look for is another question I can't really answer since I don't buy consumer grade laptops.

>>51245857
All I want is a full HD 17.3inch laptop with a relatively low power cpu so it's quiet and cool.

Lenovo is full of spyware and acer is just fucking trash.

I'd say go with Lenovo because Acer is just fucking trash.

>>51246551
>I don't know how to handle tech appliances so I hate them they suck
I have an acer from 2007 and one from 2013 and they don't even have a hinge cracked, plz learn 2 use laptops

Lenovo always has a shit load of bloat.

>>51245526
Chinknovo has preinstalled malware.
Also Fn to the left of Ctrl.

Get Acer.

bump for any othrt opinons

Asus? Maybe PC Specialist

Buy a used thinkpad you fucking retard

I had a lenovo notebook. The hard drive failed within six months and they refused to fix it under warranty. I replaced the drive myself, and two months later the screen hinges failed and the the screen popped out at the corner.

>>51245526
SNSV is good brand

t. chink

>>51249055
As stated above I want a full HD (1920x1080) 17.3inch screen with a sub15w tdp. show me the thinkpad that has that

>>51249534
there's a 17inch thinkjpad coming out next year