>CS is a dead end
lmao who said this shit? CS is in greater demand than fucking Engineering.
>CS is in greater demand than fucking Engineering.
Says who, fuckweed.
>>47633804
>code monkeys are in great demand
enjoy that 100k/yr until you're laid off at 35, faggot. i'll be at SpaceX doing things i'm actually proud of
>>47633804
Learning computing skills is of course very important. The question is on the value of a CS degree vs. learning on your own.
Computer science IS engineering
>>47633840
>implying your job won't be automated
>>47633840
>janator at spaceX
>7.25$ an hour
Jobs will go towards Indians/Chinese who will do your job for 1/4 of the price.
This is why "CS is dead end."
This is why "we have a shortage of CS workers."
>>47633804
No one said cs is dead on this board I'm on here every day. Now gtfo pls and back to /v/
>>47633842
Computer Science != Computer Engineering
>>47633865
except that applies to every field, jackass. by your logic all jobs are dead end. homelessness is the new employment?
>>47633865
Retard with no degree or job detected.
>>47633804
> CS in greater demand than fucking Engineering
You say this like it's a good thing
>>47633857
>>47633858
Nope, those are the people with Bachelor's degrees. I'm defending my EE PhD in 3 months. My primary job will be design, not assembly.
>>47633884
Nonsense.
>>47633893
Computer jobs can be done over the internet.
You can't do non-tech jobs over the internet.
>>47633917
ever heard of ships/planes?
![Old_man_laughing[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HJy91Bl.jpg "Old_man_laughing[1].jpg")
>be freshman computer engineer in college
>programming will be dead they said
>programming will be outsourced they said
>programming will be automated they said
>current computer architecture will be shorty obsolete they said
>the field is over-saturated they said
>you'll be unemployed they said
>get a job right out of college for $60k+ salary
>three years later making $90k + stock options
>at work ~36 hours a week
>only really working about two hours a day
>practically getting spammed with job offers on linked in
>>47633903
lol EE is just CS but with retarded shit about signals you'll never use thrown in.
>>47633865
People said that 5-10 years ago. Too bad it wasn't and still is not true. Tech is booming right now and the demand for SKILLED workers is high. Conpanies learned that trusting your business to Patel overseas is a risky ordeal.
>>47633917
ever heard of robots?
Only bitch work code monkey bullshit is getting outsourced.
>>47633963
>EE is CS plus physics, math, and engineering
agreed.
>>47633842
No. It's mathematics. Someone who actually works in CS devises algorithms and so on, which is pure math.
Most CS students are actually software engineers / software developers / programmers / code monkeys, though, which are all things I would consider engineering (or mindless office work for the code monkeys).
>>47633917
HAHAHHA, you're fucking dumb.
>>47634006
A high quality rebuttal
>>47634006
No, why?
>>47633917
Course you can. You can't do all of them over the internet, but lots of people could. Reporters or writers, for example.
>>47633966
This. Programming isn't hard labor that any moron can do. Plus the language barrier all but guarantees some shit will get fucked up.
>Study EE with a focus on analog and embedded systems
>teach myself to program
>get offered everything from large scale power distribution positions to software engineering and semiconductor design roles
a EE who can program is truly a god among mortals
>>47633963
>retarded shit about signals you'll never use
hahahahahaha Jesus Christo!
>>47633804
>CS is in greater demand than fucking Engineering.
hahahhaah
>>47633840
>enjoy that 100k/yr until you're laid off at 35, faggot
I will.
>got a job directly out of college
>160k
>on track to be fucking retired by 35
>>47633903
wait wait wait calm down
and pls tell me what I need to study for EE
What was your curiculum like, and what field were there focus on ie do I need Calulus III and set theory and physics and frequencies etc
>>47634052
i'm actually in a position to choose EE and computing technology. should i go for it?
>>47633840
SpaceX is a terrible place to work at
Musk is a terrible boss
>>47634052
Look up mechatronics
thank me later
>>47633960
>linked in
Normie detected.
How's your facebook knockoff, chad?
>>47634052
Go to IC design if you have the talent. Try working on arm systems. Major fucking money to be made, so much the autists on here won't believe it.
>>47634052
You're worthless when it comes to who has more high level programming skills. You may know C but guess what, no one uses it outside of the microcontrollers :)
>>47634100
>no one uses it outside of the microcontrollers :)
guess what
most shit you use run on microcontrollers
most dosh is in the factory industry, not consumer shit
>>47634071
>mechatronics
Looks pretty cool. Most of the job openings Ive seen revolve around industrial usage though. I would like to work more towards consumer products so I can walk into a store and say "yep I fucking made that possible"
>>47634090
Yep. Currently slated to start a product engineering role at a major semiconductor company in May. They write their own test code for the machines to test their circuits so it should be pretty nice.
>>47634129
Idk where you are located but here in California engineers who know their shit when it comes to arm are in heavy demand. I got a coworker who's been headhunted like 3 times in the last 5 years before he ended up with us. Everyone he just gets offered more money. There's always work too.
>>47633840
>talking about layoffs
>SpaceX
hooo boy are you in for some fun
>>47633840
I'd be satisfied with 40K tbh. If I get even half of what you disparagingly claim I'll be getting after I graduate I'll be pretty excited.
>>47634237
the only place where you'd even make 90k is japan i think.
>>47633804
Computer, electrical, and software engineers only say CompSci is a dead end because they are ass ravaged.
While they studied excessively at school, CS guys got to fuck all the rare girls.
And then everyone ended up with the same job, except they got no pussy.
>>47634237
I started 45k with bennies but taxes raped me. I'm paying like 8k I'm taxes
>>47634195
What areas of ARM? My senior design project used a 32-bit ARM microcontroller so Im familiar with programming it. You mean hardware design wise?
>>47634195
arm?
>>47634237
>40k
that's some lower standards of living, bruh
but it will be strange graduating and making so much more money than minimum wage at a part time job, 11 hours a week
>>47634274
Engineering is like the biggest bro degree of them all. cS for me was like 98% male half of them where gaymur faggots that just wanted to make dem gaymens. No pussy to be had at all.
>>47634306
I don't go to school for pussy
>>47634280
Yea I mean hardware design. Mad money Bro. I mean MAD MONEY....BRO!! Turn around happens sometimes though. When one company doesn't want you anymore there is another 100 companies right around the corner that will take you and pay you more. You have to have the talent though. I'm looking to retire early and sail around the world with my bitch and come back when I'm 40 and pump a couple kids in her while I unretire. MAD MONEY BRO! That's all I'm gonna say.
>>47634355
>>47634085s
And you wonder why you can't get a job and fail at basic life tasks.
>>47633804
CE get's 70k starting
Petroleum Eng, Chem Eng and Aereospace do better
>>47633960
CE is not CS retard
>only counting current students
millions more have a CS/STEM degree and aren't even in the field
>>47634062
someone pls respond
>>47634115
Consumer shit is made out of microcontrollers as well
Only fart apps don't run on microcontrollers
>>47634496
Yeah, but it's fucking impossible to find a decent chem eng job unless you want to move to the third world.
shit makes no sense.
>>47634519
>counting dropouts
never do statistics please
what does /g/ think about networking and sys admin major?
>>47634619
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee normies trying to take muh jerbs reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>47634619
being killed by the cloud
I have a BS in math. I'm a 27 year old code monkey. I hate life. What should I do next, /g/?
>>47634750
kill thou self or apply to different job
>>47634750
get a phd
>300k starting
>any job i want
>>47634765
you do realize that getting a phd takes effort right.
>>47634750
End it all and leave forever.
Or start doing something else you find interesting.
Help me out /g/. I was set on computer science (in second semester college now) but all this CS is dead threads are kind of making me doubt CS. plus im bad at math. Any of you know a degree that involves programming (want to be a code monkey) and has little to no math involved?
>>47634707
but... but I want to learn about security without going into a bullshit computer security program.
>>47634787
>doubting major life choices because 4chan threads
Studying CS here, anyone give any advice on what to specialise in, or any code monkeys able to tell me how bad it really is? I mean I like programming but is a shitty field to work in like /g/ says?
>>47634787
>im bad at math
Kill yourself, there's no reason to live.
>>47634805
We need people like this in CS, they make me look better.
>>47634787
>>47634835
I'm tired of grading their math tests.
>>47633960
lol, is this what uninspired nobodies get excited about?
nightmare-life.
>>47633865
You get what you pay for. This does happen but isn't common enough to matter for any real jobs.
What the fuck do you do with a CS degree? AI and ML?
Fuck being a code monkey, I'm half way through my CS degree and I dont know what the fuck I want to do
>>47634750
Math undergrad here, try out actuarial exams. I was raining in offers with only one exam, it's like the pussy magnet you never had.
>>47634787
>bad at math
Wtf are you doing nigger? Being good at math is what basically makes you a man right after having balls. You can't math you might as well become a trap and whore yourself out. Fucking useless.
>>47634085
Linked in is how many companies find valuable employees to hire and has been for the last few years...especially in IT
Dunno why u are ragging on a good anon about that.
>>47634849
>there is a local minimum at (0,0)
>there is a saddle point at (0,0)
>>47634938
Calc III is obsolete for CS students. Fucking stupid to take. Linear Algebra and any stats course is way more useful.
