What's the verdict?
Better than Windows 8.1 functionality wise, worst aesthetic design by far.
It is Windows. Same shit, different theme. Install 8.1 Pro N.
literally botnet
>>47542532
>everything is a botnet meme
>>47542535
>everything is a meme
>>47542398
Meh... I hated 8 and 8.1. Still don't like 10 much either although the UI is better than 8. Its the general direction microsoft are going in that im not keen on.
Im gonna move to linux when I buy a 1TB SSD, gonna have to get an nvidia card as well because apparently AMD a shit on linux.
Anybody know what is up with the Spartan browser?
>>47542865
A very very beta browser which is missing some very basic functionality and options.
>>47542865
>>47542872
remember its still in beta
>>47542398
Apparantly still has those god awful file permission setups that breaks almost anything needing access to files
Is the classic theme still there or is it gone?
>>47542791
Why not just run 2 500gb in raid 0? I got 2 120s on my laptop and the read and write are 300gb/s. It's cheaper too, twice the speed.
Botnet/10
>>47542791
>Im gonna move to linux when I buy a 1TB SSD
I'm planning this too. I'm going to dual boot Xubuntu LTS and Win7 with Xubuntu being the primary.
>>47542955
I have a 500gb hard drive right now but I need 1TB of space in total, new games are getting pretty big.
>>47542398
It's okay. I like the concept so far. They really do need to change the start icon though.
>>47542955
>twice the speed
Are you retarded?
>>47542955
This may upset some of the MS Fanboys/Shills, but I have not even remotely liked Windows since the XP/2003 versions NT 5.1 and 5.2 and only then after years of updates and service packs fixed their issues. Since Vista and newer it's all been asinine and egregious BS stacked on-top of itself with little to nothing new that benefited the end users.
>>47543012
Linux is doing the same thing though. More and more distros keep popping up and they're just minor tweaks of the last one they made.
>>47542987
2x 500 = 1000gb
>>47542997
Yes two hard drives working as one is twice the read and write speed. Fucking YouTube it.
Before was around 130-150gbs read and write. Now just over 300gbs.
https://youtu.be/eULFf6F5Ri8
>are you retarded?
>>47543054
>gbs
Again.
>are you retarded?
>>47543086
See>>47543077
And yes I am a retard for that. But I'm still right about raid 0.
>>47543054
Oh right, I was confusing raid0 and raid1.
>>47543143
>I have a childish mentality so I have to be right about everything
Some actual improvements and features for the first time since XP. Too bad people have autism attacks about squares and no aero which somehow people can't live without these days despite being considered the worst thing in the world when it was first released.
I just want to see some real application of DX12. Maybe we can finally stop optimizing games for an 8 year old OS. I mean just look at BF4, 8.1 users get way better FPS.
All the little things like smart window manager, integrated dark themes, and virtual desktops are nice.
>>47543145
Raid 0 also improves performance. Raid 1 has the two drives store copies of the data and probably is the fastest (at reading, at least), but Raid 0 uses striping and also improves performance.
>>47543226
Literally the only thing I prefer about Windows 7 over XP is the Aero Snap feature. The rest of it was utterly useless to me. The new design was better than XP's Fisher Price shit, but I just used the classic themes in XP anyway. Of course, the improvements under the hood were nice, but they aren't really user-visible.
I would have liked an updated XP much more than a new UI.
I really like it a lot. The icons suck, but everything else has really come together nicely in the latest builds. Seems to still be unstable though, bit concerning with it close to the release window. 8 was rock solid at this point in it's development cycle.
>>47543284
Piece of shit ready 2009 had a better theme than xp default
>>47542535
It's the first windows where they didn't even try to hide the keylogger. Microsoft account can be closed without warning or reason and all your files are gone. CPU can be remotely turned off. Computer can be remotely turned on if it's not unplugged (e.g. Laptop).
Do you not understand how this meme became a meme in the first place?
>>47543226
>aero
I want Classic dammit!
>>47543323
Yeah, the XP default theme was bad. But if you go back to the theme with the nice square corners and the blue gradient title bars I think XP looks better (or at least not worse) than 7.
>>47543329
sauce, what the actual fuck
>>47543329
Do you have no idea what the fuck a developer preview is?
>>47543364
Seconded for source.
Ive heard of this before. But I would be interested to learn more.
>>47543329
> It's the first windows where they didn't even try to hide the keylogger
It's a test flight, and you're given lots of warnings about this.
> Microsoft account can be closed without warning or reason and all your files are gone
What is... no.
> CPU can be remotely turned off. Computer can be remotely turned on if it's not unplugged (e.g. Laptop).
I think you dropped your tinfoil hat...
> Being this retarded
>>47543364
>>47543411
>>47543329 is a retard, but for the preview build, and Windows test flights, here is the privacy statement.
This is for beta and pre-beta ONLY.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-privacy-statement
>>47543414
>What is... no.
That one's kind of true. I have an Outlook account for email and Microsoft's policies really piss me off. They locked me out of my email without warning because someone was supposedly trying to get in, then gladly reset my password after I gave them my date of birth and the subject lines and recipients of a few recent emails I sent. You know, so I could reset my password *and so could any of my friends who I'd recently had email exchanges with*.
I thought it was appalling, especially since I deliberately avoid all sorts of security questions like that because I don't think they're secure.
>>47543452
The agreement to test it on developers is just for beta.
The code that does this will ship.
>>47543513
No, it won't.
>>47543505
Locking your account because someone is trying to break into it? Alright, I'll give you that. But deleting everything without warning doesn't happen.
>>47543529
Yeah, it definitely will.
But don't worry, the agreement will not say anything about it, so MS will not use it. Right?
>>47543568
Again, no, it won't.
You should really check your sources.
>>47543611
Just screen shot the thread and rub it in everyone's face once it gets released.
>>47543550
You're right, but it may have the same effect. Windows 10 has some sort of cloud storage, right? If your account gets locked I doubt you could access it.
And if they keep their same absurd password reset policy I think someone else could hijack your account pretty easily.
>>47543767
So don't use a live account. It's not required, unless you want to use apps. And in that regard, is no different the Android or Apple.
>>47542398
Verdict. I'll be using Windows 7 til' I die.
>>47542398
I'll use it.
https://soundcloud.com/deck_1/slurr
https://soundcloud.com/deck_1/slurr
https://soundcloud.com/deck_1/slurr
>>47542398
Should I just wait till it's released?
>>47542398
Absolutely disgusting
The best.
Running it in a VM and I have to say the interface is beautiful. Animations and transitions are porn. The start menu and icons leave something to be desired, but with a few minor tweaks even they can be superb. Spartan is also looking like it's going to be an excellent successor to IE. With these and all of the under-the-hood improvements, it'll be hard for Windows 10 to be anything but a smashing success.
>>47542548
>just install gentoo xD lol now I fit in now guise?
I've been using it for a couple hours and I literally cant come up with a single reason why anyone would use it instead of windows 7. It has a shitload of annoying botnet features and animations but it looks kind of cool I guess. Overall better than windows 8 but worse than windows 7.
>>47544952
>wanting animations and transitions in your UI
Not out yet?
>>47544952
>mspaint icons
holy shit, they still haven't fixed these?
>>47543329
>Microsoft account can be closed without warning or reason and all your files are gone.
Create a local account with no MS account linked to it, problem solved
>>47543329
Anyone know what the actual fuck he's trying to talk about yet?
>>47544952
>actually liking the disgusting two-paneled start menu with the search box as a disproportionate overlay that includes web 'results' that noone asked for that you can't disable
How do I disable the XAML start menu in the most recent update? It's so shitty.
>>47545066
>le botnet me me again
Did three 14 year olds just discover xbox live or something?
Better than Windows 8.
are the icons better than win2k's?
>>47545151
>botnet me me
Seriously the thing wants me to sign in with my microsoft id and password and connect to one drive bullshit. Some things are actually true based on evidence. You cant just go around calling everything you dont like a big stupid may may.
>>47545245
Signing into a backup service isn't a botnet. Do you people know what a botnet is anymore?
>>47545245
Or maybe your intelligence is just too limited to understand even this simple thing.
>>47545274
Its not just a backup service it is literally using my windows id and password to sign into my local account on my computer without even asking me.
>>47545245
You can create a local account, you insufferable dingus.
>>47543364
>>47543411
>>47543414
>>47543452
>>47543529
Look at the privacy control panel in 8.1 RTM. This is what 8.1 users get today, and you can expect 10 to be more of the same.
Is there a dark theme? I want a factory dark theme in windows.
WINDOWS CLASSIC THEME PLEASE
Why the fuck would WINDOWS operating system not have WINDOWS CLASSIC theme.
Fuck you I don't like those shitty icons.
>>47545390
They have to make money somehow anon. No one is keeping you from running a live USB of gentoo when you download your kiddie porn and order heroin on the dark web.
>>47545424
I'm not complaining, only pointing it out in response to the anons I replied to. I run Ubuntu myself.
>>47545420
Windows 7 already has classic theme
>>47545464
Honest question, does Apple do anything similar with data collection?
>>47545468
We're talking about windows 10.
Why wasn't it in windows 8? Why did they get rid of it?
>>47545420
Windows classic is incompatible with the new taskbar.
Ever noticed how companies like Lenovo make their shitty taskbar addons like the Power Manager that look like total shit in Windows 8? That's why.
>>47545485
Only somewhat-modern Apple OS I've tried was OS X 10.1 or something. The only thing I saw privacy-wise was that it had a confusing dialog during the initial installation that seemed to require you to create an online apple account to continue. There was a way to bypass it, but it seemed purposely confusing.
>>47545552
Because someone at Microsoft believed that He was the next Steve Jobs.
But he hasn't the vision, the aesthetic sense and the borderline manipulative personality of the former, and he got fired
>>47545197
These icons had problems because they tried to have volume but where limited by hardware specs. We now have the hardware specs but recently it's become popular to try and save as much as possible so more important wasteful applications can get as many resources as possible, even if minor.
>>47545390
Privacy settings != keylogger. Stop being an idiot.
>>47546316
Did you actually read the settings?
Is win10 also vulnerable?
https://ma.ttias.be/remote-code-execution-via-http-request-in-iis-on-windows/
>>47546477
>doesn't effect XP
Glorious XP master race confirmed.
>>47545197
win2k icons are better by far.
I don't know what's up with the present plain minimalistic fad. Use colors and depth, dammit.
Windows 10 is an NSA-sponsored botnet keylogger. ANYONE who says otherwise is a Microsoft or NSA shill.
>>47546541
That's because nobody cares about old people
>>47546891
>muh NSA botnet
Opinion discarded.
>>47546891
I'm generally not one to jump on 'botnet' or other seemingly paranoid claims, but I agree with you for the most part. Furthermore, I'd add that most of this is already implemented in Windows 8.1.
>>47546891
botnets have literally nothing to do with spying
I swear it's like every normalfag got the internet last year and googled 1337 hacks and decided to run with the headlines
>>47542398
same shit, different smell as per usual.
>>47546931
>>47546891
key logger =/= botnet
[spoiler]literally[/spoiler]every site you visit collects information about you anyway
>>47546891
>Windows 10 is an buzzword buzzword I don't know computers fully
>>47546922
Shill detected.
>>47546932
How is it not a botnet to distribute the spying by making other people's devices do it for you?
>>47546420
Have you actually seen what's collected, or the code behind it?
>>47546891
I think you dropped your tinfoil hat
Also, it can all be turned off, but that would require having a thought of your own, which is apparently difficult for /g/ tonight...
>>47546970
>Also, it can all be turned off
But that's wrong. Please look carefully at the provided pic, which includes screenshots of what happens when you try to turn it off.
You get the following:
"We'll continue to use the info anonymously to improve our products, but it will no longer be used to help your PC and Cortana get to know you."
So you are wrong, it cannot be turned off. You can only stop Cortana using it. Still gets collected and sent back to Microsoft.
>>47546992
Either pull the source behind it, or pull a packet capture, and tell me what PII data gets sent back...
Also, your pic shows Windows 10. This is test flight, remember? Microsoft was very direct that the test and preview flights will collect data. You get a big fucking warning when you go to download it.
Wait until the code goes gold / RTM.
> zOMG Micro$suck botnet NSA cuck...
Microsoft right now, as I type this, actively fighting a warrant to collect data from a US citizen on a Dublin mail server, with the argument that the US governments reach does not extend beyond it's borders.
If you wana run Linux (GNU+Linux), MacOS, or BSD, that's fine. But if you're going to try and argue something, at least have an idea what you're talking about.
>>47543329
>CPU can be remotely turned off.
>being this fucking retarded
>>47545298
Android and iPhone os do the same.
>>47546970
Eh you're grasping at straws. The settings descriptions are pretty clear.
I haven't even tried windows 8. I knew it was going to be shit. Windows has been alternating shitty and good releases for a while now.
8 - shit
7 - preddy gud
vista - shit
XP - good shit
ME - kill me
98 - :^)
95 - this might be where the trend stops. I liked 95 but I was also extremely young by this time.
I'm expecting 10 to be pretty good, but I haven't bothered to fuck around with it yet because 7 works fine
>>47542398
Still crap. Microshills would disagree though.
>>47547041
>pull the source behind it
Right, because that's an option with Windows. It's not like Windows is proprietary closed-source or anything.
>pull a packet capture
Why? Just look at the fucking settings.
http://i.4cdn.org/g/1429170467350.png
>Microsoft was very direct that the test and preview flights will collect data.
Yes, that much is absolutely true. But what the pic I've posted clearly shows is that this is core functionality of Cortana, which is the core of the new Search tool for Windows 10, so I think if you're expecting Cortana to suddenly STOP collecting all of the info listed when Windows 10 gets released officially, you're kidding yourself.
Let's go over the list of info Cortana collects again: (Reminder, this info comes direct from the Windows 10 Settings app and Cortana itself)
>- Your identity (Microsoft account sign-in)
>- Your Location
>- Your contacts (This matters even more for mobile devices)
>- Your "speech pattern" (Forensic voiceprint?)
>- Your "handwriting pattern" (Forensic handwriting sample?)
>- The contents of your emails AND text messages (4th amendment?)
>- Entire browser history
>- Local search history
>- Content of your calendar
>- Your entire "typing history" (But it's totally NOT a keylogger, right?)
>>47547151
>still argumenting with an image
Experience teach me that images are liars.
Anyways, I don't use windows.
>>47547203
If you think those screenshots are doctored, install Windows 10 in a VM and check for yourself.
They aren't.
>>47547203
I'm not 47547151, and I'm talking about Windows 8.1. Look at my screenshot further up the thread. This is pretty much already part of 8.1 RTM.
>>47542398
im not gonna install it, i already use linux on few of my home computers, ill use win7 for few more years on rest and the switch everything to gnu
>>47544952
Looks like Plasma 5.
>>47547063
My Android doesn't.
>>47546970
>Have you actually seen what's collected, or the code behind it?
No because it's proprietary software.
