It seems like Xubuntu is the best beginner Linux distro. Fairly decent looking, not too bloated, uses the Ubuntu repos which have a good selection of software, and doesn't require constant maintenance like Arch.
That's not Mint
Xubuntu is a fine distro. My first main one. But I use Arch and not sure why you think it requires so much maintnece. The AUR actually makes it easier than most . But to each their own
>>47277902
don't you need to mess around with configurations constantly on Arch to prevent new softwares from breaking?
>>47277940
it's gotten pretty stable but i wouldn't recommend it as a first distro
ubuntu is ok but, enjoy it
I'm on my first Linux machine right now and I chose Lubuntu because it looks like muh Windows
>>47277870
I'm going to be switching my laptop to a Linux distro tomorrow. Why should I choose Xubuntu over Lubuntu? It's what I'm currently planning on.
>>47278106
>not installing Gentoo on your laptop
stay pleb
>>47278106
A matter of preference, really. I think Lubuntu looks a little ugly out of the box, but you can probably rice openbox to look good. It also comes with GDebi and Synaptic, which is really nice.
Xubuntu looks prettier and it's only a little heavier than Lubuntu.
Linux Mint 17.1 is awesome. Everything works out of the box, unlike Debian.
>>47277870
Arch doesn't require constant maintainence though.
>>47278682
Okay, fine you fucking shills, I'll just get Mint
>>47278700
Make sure to use the Xfce DE :^)
xfce is pretty much dead because there are no updates sure pull bug fixes are submitted but no one has permissions to change anything
inb4 no bugs there is a page dedicated to it and nothing has been changed for years
>>47277873
Mint isn't evaluated well and too much software preinstalled.
>>47278106
Lubuntu looks outdated. Xubuntu looks really nice out of the box even though XFCE looks meh without any customising.
>>47278761
It just werks.
>Good beginner distro
It's the best distro out of the whole fucking lot unless you want a barebones setup.
>>47278761
>xfce is pretty much dead
>new version out a month or so ago
k
>>47278719
But that's wrong you dummy.
>>47279027
>a point release in 2 years
>typemoonfags will defend this
>>47279027
>new version
>basically the same shit as the last one
>>47279027
it took years to release essentially the same shit
>not dead
>>47277870
>xfce
>>47278761
Perpetual development is really silly.
>>47277870
new kde looks a lot better and doesn't lag go for the kubuntu beta version
>not ubuntu MATE
What's wrong with all of you?
>>47279141
>only good for single displays
>limited customisation compared to XFCE
>>47279194
>only good for single displays
wut
>>47277870
i like lubuntu over xubuntu because i like the 20 year old ui and performance
>>47278106
lxde is probably more customizable, like you can drop in whatever file manager/mixer/screensaver you want
imo it doesn't work as well and feels less cohesive
>>47279346
What's a good file manager? I always find nothing really beats Windows Explorer. Thunar is alright but the thumbnail size doesn't go very big.
>>47279381
>actually liking windows explorer
it's like you've never even heard of total commander
my go to filemanager on linux is gnome commander
>>47279052
>constant visible changes are good
let me guess, GNOME user?
>>47277870
>not choosing trisquel
>wanting to be raped
>>47279745
>trisquel
but muh proprietery blobs
>>47279704
There weren't even that many bug fixes either. It's still the same old shit only with tabs in Thunar.
>>47279141
who is that fluid druid?
>>47277870
all this fucking shit buntu shilling lately. what ever happened to a healthy dose of shame?
>>47277940
no, it's stable as fuck, running it for a year now.
try antergos, choose your DE, enjoy arch
>>47278997
>mint is evaluated well...
Please, expand on your shitty assertion.
>>47277870
I couldn't get ubuntu running on my pc because of hardware incompatibilities. Wasted like an 1 installing it too. Fucker should have told me i had hardware incompatibilities before installation.
>>47277870
>constant maintenance like Arch.
you have no idea what your talking about.
>>47280456
1 hour installing it too*
>>47279075
if it ain't broke...
>install loonix for the first time in a while
>have to use edgers ppa for "latest" gpu driver
>screen tearing out the arse while scrolling the fucking browser
>removing one simple program requires removing the whole desktop environment
Oh well, time to put Windows back on. I need a fresh install anyway.
>>47279745
Trisquel is FSF's Ubuntu.
> Parabola master race
>>47279115
>Let's ignore the fact that our compositor sucks
>Security fixes? Nah, man, that's only Microsoft.
>Wayland? But X WERKS!
Kek
>>47280495
install a retarded bloated distro, get retarded bloat problems
>>47280552
>features are bloat
Are you runing in a fucking late 90's machine?
>>47280552
Screen tearing is an universal linux problem, bloated distros are actually better because of their compositors.
>>47280495
>paid MS troll spreading FUD
Leave.
>>47280569
no, i'm running a distro not built for retards
enjoy your windows
>>47278997
>Mint isn't evaluated well and too much software preinstalled.
lol
Fucking fedora wearing fags I tell you.
Maybe it comes with too much software preinstalled, because it is actually a useful OS right out of the box? How about this, you uninstall what you dont want?
>>47280571
stupidest post in this thread
>>47280581
>i'm running a muh minimalism distro who hasn't any features except the lack of features
Okay.
>>47280571
compton uses like 340kb or HDD and ram space, and fixes the tearing.
>>47280601
>muh X Windows
>muh XFLDs
>muh tiling wms
>muh primitives
No.
>>47280609
But not completly anyways.
>>47280571
not universal and it's easily fixed
>>47280603
sorry friend, i have no problems uninstalling packages without having to remove the entire de but go ahead and re-install windows, you clearly have no use for a linux based os
I personally think that some of XFCE's elements are a bit too restrictive for a newcomer. For instance, the Thunar file manager did not (admittedly, last I used it a few years back) browse network shares (samba, NFS etc..) by default. In comparison, other DE file managers do this easily.
I'd consider Lubuntu instead, if you wanted to stay with a particularly low resource DE distro. Then again, Ubuntu MATE is another option.
Though really, unless your hardware is really old, it may be easier to use something a bit more resource and feature intensive - Cinnamon, KDE etc.. (or even Gnome3 and/or Unity if it is to your liking).
I-Is this the Linux general?
I started using Mint and I like it a lot. It's really pretty and fun to use!
>>47280617
wtf are you on about? just because your shit screen tears doesn't mean its a problem with linux.
>>47280631
Ok, kiddo. Men have to back to work
>>47280617
it fixes it for me at least, adds blur and transparency/saturation/brightness modifiers, and shadows. All the features most people used in compiz without the massive dependency list.
>>47280646
It's a problem with X windows really.
I'm not saying that "hurr linux sucks" Only I have big hopes with Wayland/Weston
>>47280642
What DE are you using? Cinnamon?
>>47280495
Also: told Qt programs adopt the native style on loonix.
>exactly the same disgusting fisher price icons as windows
Can't even achieve that small victory. I really wanted to switch over, but alas, it's still not to be.
>>47280669
I use X and my screen doesn't tear.
this seems to clash with your claim of X making screen tear.
makes me think that maybe this is a problem specific to your system and not the X software in general.
>>47280609
>compton fixes tearing
Nah, I still get tearing. KDE was the only thing that solved it.
>>47280646
Microsoft Windows™ doesn't have this problem.
>>47280680
Yes!
I know it's bloated and stuff but I think it's much nicer than the older versions I used before...
>>47280688
>Microsoft Windows™ doesn't have this problem.
then use that.
>>47280687
>>47280687
>problem specific to your system
And millions of others. How does it feel being stuck in the windows 95 days?
>mfw there is people defending X Windows
>>47280711
works on mine too
you probably fucked up
>>47280688
i dont know what to tell you other than you set up the config wrong. I mean you can literally google configs for compton that fix the tearing issues for specific cards / manufactures etc.
I just lifted a config file from arch wiki and modified it a little : Without a config file, or a million flags when launching it, compton does nothing.
>>47280704
Then don't claim that loonix is perfect and that every fault is a hardware issue. I use both. but for video/gaems windows is the undisputed king.
>>47280698
I use Cinnamon too, hence why I asked. Don't get me wrong, XFCE is pretty fucking nice and I would easily have it as a second, but I do honestly think that Cinnamon is just fucking pretty and nice.
>>47280729
>How does it feel being stuck in the windows 95 days?
you tell me. a lot linux code is as old as X.
doesn't mean it causes screen tearing.
>>47280711
X doesn't even handle screen refresh rates - your video drivers do.
>>47280730
not saying X is great, it is a disaster. but it does not inherently cause screen tearing for "millions of users". that's probably just a driver issue.
>>47280769
i didn't claim those things.
>>47280754
>config
I spent hours on that shit because I didn't like kwin, you just got lucky.
>>47280786
>X does not inherently cause screen tearing
10/10 keked hard.
>>47280786
>i didn't claim those things.
>this is a problem specific to your system
>>47280818
0/10
he's right and you're just a shitty troll
>>47280830
Oh? Seriously? I didn't know that X windows could know when a frame is ready or not.
>>47280821
>loonix is perfect and that every fault is a hardware issue.
>this is a problem specific to your system
maybe its just me but those don't seem to be even close to one another.
>>47280818
think about it a little bit - Xorg doesn't do anything with refresh rates or video timings - all it does it tell kernel what to draw on the screen - the video drivers handle the way the frames are displayed.
What are the odds of MGS5 being able to work decently with WINE?
>>47280859
low, your best bet is windows running in QEMU.
>>47280858
>don't seem to be even close to one another
They are when you assume that my perfectly functional hardware (you don't even know the specs) is at fault.
>>47280881
meh, if I have to virtualize I might as well just dual-boot
It's literally the only thing stopping me from switching to linux.
>>47280886
im not saying your hardware is broken im saying either the drivers or related configuration specific to your hardware is the problem.
>>47280902
>meh, if I have to virtualize I might as well just dual-boot
QEMU is a bitch to set up on most distros anyway.
>>47280775
umm, please don't use swear words...
>>47280939
>>47280928
>implying I didn't try every possible setting
The driver is definitely the culprit, makes it a linux issue. Don't just assume these things.
>>47280960
possible that you just need a different driver
>>47280939
umm, please go find a humongous black cock and use it to fuck yourself shitless, you faggot
>>47280960
what vid card?
>>47280990
Anon, why are you projecting tonight's fap fantasies onto this poor innocent other anon?
>>47280976
The proprietary driver fixes it but causes random crashes on firefox.
>>47280995
because this anon is an even larger faggot
>>47280990
I'm asian, I rather have a white cock...
I just want a monogamous relationship and not casual sex and hooking up though...
>>47280990
Whoa, he just wants /g/ to be a safe place for all. No need to be upset.
>>47277870
>Linux®
>Good for anything besides demolishing freedom
Good one.
>>47281006
Good point. Continue on.
>>47281046
>most of the servers on the internet run a linux based os
>demolishing freedom
heh
>>47280647
Actually, China is converting all their systems to GNU/Linux operating systems and they all work harder as a population than every other country.
Russia is following along with converting to GNU/Linux.
You use a poorly designed operating system with many useful programs built for such a shit system...as it was popular at the time.
I understand you have no use for GNU/Linux so I would suggest your "manly" persona to continue with the system you consider to be of employable nature...which is true if you want to work for a business oriented employer.
Though, many have begun the transition to a more elegant system rather than the old familiar symbol of money, which is the Bill Gates fortune.
He made most of his money on converting encyclopedias digitally into the CD which was know as Ecarta, I believe.
Have fun with your toy and judging others based on the items they use.
At least the system I'm using doesn't see me as a "consumer".
Russia is also converting their computers to GNU/Linux.
>>47281080
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet
The distro you use doesn't matter. Bloat doesn't matter.
>>47281116
Wow, you look like a preacher.
>>47280375
Milana Vayntrub. Youtube lets talk about something more interesting.
>>47281140
thank you for proving my point
>>47281116
Oh, here's Mr. "Big Shot", You think you're cool because you don't use windows. Well want to hear about what I use?
I'll have you know every program I use, from my os, to the drivers, to my internet browser, i program myself by typing 1s and 0s in my text editor (that I made) then just saving the file as .exe.
And the computer I have? Yeah I built that myself too. I don't mean I bought some shit off new egg and threw it together like you did, I made every component personally. I hand made my motherboard using spare coathangers as wireing, and welded them together (soldering is too mainstream.) I handmade all the resistors, capacitors, everything.
I don't even have a hard drive, i just personally memorize all the numbers of my data, and manually input them as numbers into my computer whenever I want to access it. The keyboard I use is actually just 2 buttons, for binary. I don't need the crutch of having more than 2 unique characters for input.
So think about that next time you feel special.
>>47280456
Nobody ever told you to run a live version of a distro before installing?
>>47281140
>later in that article
>0.2% of TOP 500 run Windows
why
>>47280698
It's hardly bloated. You are using XFCE for not retardeds, enjoy yourself.
>>47281425
Oh for fuck's sake you giant fucking cunt. You come in here swinging like a precious and frail 8 year old and the moment someone puts you on your ass (rightfully) you sperg out with that shitty little creative writing asshole gibberish.
Worst fucking post since the reddit exodus and you make fucking twelve year olds seem like learned scholars.
I really want to switch to switch to linux, but the prospect of having to learn an entirely new OS and re-configure everything is scaring me.
Not to mention replacing ALL of my software.
>no foobar2000, mpc-hc, notepad++
>having to switch from PS and 3dsmax to krita and blender
HNNGNGNNH
>>47281616
it's fucking fun. Don't look at this like some kind of fucking test you get fucked for failing. Secret Hint: People install Linux because it's fucking fun.
>>47281616
Quit being a baby and learn new things.
By the way Archfags actually believe all the nonsense they say and will defend their flawed opinions to the death. Just ignore them.
Can't wait for Lxqt to hit 1.0.
>>47281634
Ok, I have this 40gb hard drive from a broken laptop, I'll put linux on there.
>>47281638
Is it okay if I use antergos?
I have lubuntu on my laptop and don't really like it.
>>47281489
I didn't even know windows could do Ultra, Top 500, High performance computing....
>>47281014
This is /g/. How thirsty can you be gook?
>>47281616
>foobar2000, mpc-hc, notepad++
these run in wine just fine - so do older version of photoshop
>>47281651
You probably wouldn't like the LXDE that comes with Lubuntu. That's an acquired taste that comes from being too poor to afford more than 1GB RAM. Try out Fedora 21 if you want a nice GNOME desktop; there isn't much point in running Antergos other than being too lazy to put together Arch yourself. If fixing font rendering and installing multimedia codecs from a third party or with the tool Fedy is too much for you, Chapeau is nice.
>>47281711
I don't want to use wine.
The point of switching to linux, for me, is to leave everything windows, both advantages and disadvantages, behind and enter into a completely new environment.
>>47281616
I-I just started using Linux Mint and most of the applications are there.
There's the mpv meme going on but I just use bomi instead because it has a GUI and I don't have to type it in the terminal every time I want to watch something.
There's sublime text too for Notepad++...
>>47281711
>mpc-hc
>>these run in wine just fine
I don't think you can configure the filters and stuff properly
>>47281732
Clementine, MPV and Geany are better than each of those things anyway. You may want to buy a Mac or something to run your Adobe software on though, high tier consumer software isn't very high on programmers and engineers' list of things to make.
>>47281751
> high tier consumer software
IT'S PRODUCTION SOFTWARE, NOT CONSUMER SOFTWARE, FUCK YOU
>hurr durr we engineers are so cool, don't care about producing anything but code lmao xdDDdDDDDdd
YEAH, WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT IMAGE EDITING, VIDEO EDITING, AUDIO PRODUCTION ALL OF THAT SHIT IS KIDDIE STUFF FOR LIBERAL ARTS MAJORS, WE ONLY CARE ABOUT WRITING TWENTY DIFFERENT TEXT EDITORS THAT ALL DO THE SAME THING
NOW THAT'S A PRODUCTIVE USE OF TIME AND RESOURCES FOR US, ENGINEERS
:P)))))))))))))
>>47281751
Can you elaborate on those?
What I care about in foobar is tagging, encoding and having an instantly updating media library that just werks with ctrl+f "albumname".
And didn't the developer of mvp purge all filters and stuff and fire their developers, deeming them "placebo"?
>>47281784
It's consumer software, and of no concern to programmers and engineers. You lot have your OSX for that shit anyway.
>>47281784
i was going to read your post but capslock
>>47280533
>>Wayland? But X WERKS!
But this version started the port towards gtk3
>>47281798
Pro tip:
The only reason adobe software isn't on linux is because adobe doesn't deem linux as enough of a market share to bother porting it.
"Programmers and engineers" don't have a say in the matter of whether linux has photoshop or not.
On another hand, programmers and engineers seem to be unable to make image editing software worth a shit.
>>47281797
I'm not sure about tagging, but I do all my encoding with ffmpeg and I'm pretty sure Clementine doesn't have any problems with its library or seach function.
I don't know about you, but doesn't banding a video for the sole purpose of debanding it seem a bit much? MPV doesn't get in the way of my anime: it's basically just a window with a video in it.
>>47281829
Adobe doesn't feel like porting Photoshop to Linux because they know they won't make much money selling their Walmart-tier image editor to the programmers and engineers that use Linux.
