what is your primary linux distro, and why?
(secondary linux distro doesnt matter)
gentoo, been using it for years and cbf changing.
>>47150822
don't worry, gcc5 will break it, so you have time to change
is ubuntu the most stable linux for gaming?
>>47150803
arch.
been using it for about 6 months. it's only what i want and so easy to maintain. don't see myself switching anytime soon.
>>47150803
distros don't matter no more, just needs to be able to run docker.
>>47150916
>easy to maintain
>constant ABI breakage
>>47150803
debian - i'm working on /g/ebian considering those lo/g/os fags are weebos.
>>47150891
back to /v/
xubuntu
Ubuntu, because it just werks and not OSX
>>47150886
how so?
>>47150920
is this really the future for desktop distros? :^)
>>47150934
not sure what you're saying, but it hasn't caused me any problems.
>>47150979
only if it's lts.
otherwise enjoy your coming alpha systemd/mir releases.
>>47150803
Elementary.
I'm a newbie Linux user so I wanted a babby Linux.
I tried Xubuntu, and it was good, too, but I just liked Elementary aesthetically..
>>47150987
>how so?
gcc5 gets pushed -> mass-compile needed -> half your packages fail
Ubuntu for now.
>>47150916
i tried Arch, but I noticed that it requires some time to learn the basics. how long did it take you to get use to Arch??
ed.
Mint, because it's best not to learn TOO much. And the second reason is the pic.
>>47150803
manjaro, because the antergos was fucked up
Mint on my laptop that I use almost exclusively for web browsing. Simply don't have interest in fooling around with Linux any more so Mint is fine for what I use it for.
>>47151059
Antergos liveUSB*
>>47151008
cant wait for freya to come out
>>47150803
Deepin, looks good, and just werks
>>47150803
I installed arch for my dad because wine ran like shit on ubuntu
still don't understand why
>>47150803
NixOS
>>47151051
>a distro teaches one the distro
>no one is running arch in production
>zero sysadmin jobs for you
>>47150987
>is this really the future for desktop distros? :^)
Who's talking about desktop linux?
No one but some neckbeards try to use that.
Red Hat abandoned Desktop Linux years ago and even Canonical pivoted to mobile now.
Trisquel.
I've been getting really serious about free software. I feel it's the most stable of the Linux-libre GNU operating systems.
>>47150803
I believe you mean Leenux plus GANOO
>>47151074
PING PONG CHOW WOO MING WOO
>>47150803
RIPLinux
because that's what seems to be on the HBCD i keep using
otherwise full winfag, no loonixes installed to hard drives
I'm a student so they make me use a bunch of shit. Ubuntu for network programs, Centos for sever shit, arch for literally everything else.
>>47151180
XIE XIE
>>47151171
>I've been getting really serious about free software
You sound like a consumer.
It doesn't matter what you consume.
Contribute or else.
>>47151171
Before Trisquel I've been a Fedora ist since 15'
Debian, It Simply Functions
>>47151182
>net admin class
>'have to' use ubuntu for assignments
>install debian instead
>just werks
>passed no probs
Ubuntu Server for, well, my home server. Arch for my everyday computer.
I use CentOS a lot at work for VoIP systems. Am I the only one that doesn't like Red Hat-based distributions? They feel a lot more cumbersome than pretty much everything else.
>>47151221
RHEL owns the server market almost completely, why are you using Debian-like systems?
>>47151197
Working on it. I don't feel like I'm a competent enough programmer to contribute to the project yet. But, I'm practicing, and studying the GNU code to learn how it all works.
Would you have any tips for someone genuinely interested in getting good at coding so I can contribute?
arch
it only has the software I want installed
>>47151262
software like gcc, because non-devs need that.
>>47151278
Sorry, could you reformulate your sentence?
>>47151051
i've been using various distros off and on for about 15 years, but wouldn't have what i'd call a thorough understanding of the OS. before Arch i hadn't used linux for probably 5 years. even though it's seen as an overly complicated disto to run, i felt the more comfortable installing/running it than any other i've tried. the wiki has all the answers i've needed so far. good documentation is underrated, it's what separates arch from the rest in my opinion.
don't be intimidated by the beginner's guide and and installation guide. it walks you through the installation and basic configuration process so you can get a solid system up and running, and you'll learn a lot in the process. more than what other installation processes teach you, anyway.
after that, it's smooth sailing. "pacman -Syu" keeps you up to date, or "yaourt -Syua" to keep your AUR packages current as well. so easy.
>>47151320
you will utterly fail red hat's linux certification with your arch knowledge
Gentoo because I hate having to deal with -dev pacakages and being forced to maintain my own compilation of an application just because the repo version didn't have a flag I need set.
>>47151345
can't wait.
>>47151365
Like USE flags work so well.
Let's try to get KDE w/o semantic search bloat through USE flags.
>>47151396
>Installing a DE
There's your problem. Useflags work fine.
-vqan is the perfect set of flags for portage too, lets you see all your flags for all the stuff you're getting ready to install.
>>47150803
Xubuntu
>>47151320
>smooth sailing
>not reading NEWS
>using random AUR shit
>not maintaining any production software which can't be just recompiled all the time to counter constant ABI breakages
>>47151431
anything else you'd like to greentext?
>>47151415
>not using a DE
>still trying to use desktop linux
>only DE brings tools for (k)dbus/polkit
>having no printer
>having no wifi
>having no automount
>...
>using some ancient WM that doesn't even use cairo
>GUI is slower than in a full-blown DE
>>47151493
>having no printer
I don't know if that's true or not since I never use printers.
>having no wifi
>having no automount
Wrong. You can easily do both without a DE.
>using some ancient WM that doesn't even use cairo
cario is shit anyway. Compton is what you should be using. And why would I be using a WM that old when stuff like openbox and i3 exist?
>GUI is slower than in a full-blown DE
You mean it's less smooth than a full blown DE and that's still debatable.
Arch/xfce4 with openbox WM
>>47151051
Honestly easier for than debian was. everything is in the AUr themes and other shit. so it's easier and quicker to get shit done.
And use evolution installer.
>>47151493
>not being able to mount disks or connect wifi without a GUI
your mother probably dresses you too
>>47151550
>being root all the time to do such simple tasks
>wonders why one gets infected by rootkits
>>47151119
>no one is running arch in production
GUYS NO ONE IS RUNNING _______ IN PROD
>5 years behind
>>47151577
You are arguing into territory you're not familiar with. This is very clear.
>>47151539
>debian: actual giving you sane default configs
>arch: just using upstream configs even when different projects have contradicting configs
>debian: secure by default
>arch: no security if you don't do it yourself
>>47151606
Leave, please.
>>47151598
true, X11 already runs as root, so desktop linux is trivial to root
>>47151550
you are quite the leet haxxor
>>47151590
soz 100 mb of updates every day is never gonna fly
>>47151590
>actually looking for sysadmin jobs
Ubuntu has some foothold in clouds, otherwise it's still a RHEL monoculture
>>47151644
>never heard of weekly maintenance
>>47151705
soz 700 mb of updates every week is never gonna fly
>>47150803
I use Linux Mint on my desktop and Elementary OS beta (Freya) on my laptop.
Feels good, man.
>>47151365
>Firefox
Enjoy your bloat
>>47151784
Chromium on Linux is trash
>>47151705
>weekly maintenance
read security advisories and see if there's something to do
>arch:
nothing to do because there are no steady security notices
>>47151073
http://isfreyareleasedyet.com/
>>47151801
you just have to follow upstream and remember arch only supports full system-updates or nothing.
so instead of just applying the bugfix, enjoy qa'ing the whole new stack
p.s. there's no easy way to rollback not even for the kernel:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16702?project=1&cat%5B0%5D=31&string=linux
enjoy your unbootable system
>>47151796
>Chromium is trash
ftfy
>>47151885
Best browser on OS X.
>>47151891
>OS X
>>47151767
>employed
best of luck on your sysadmin job search.
>>47151899
The best desktop *nix OS by a wide margin.
>>47151906
oh, you're a pedophile
that explains your horrible taste
>>47151796
>2015
>all browsers have sandboxes but firefox
>any security whole on ff is a critical one
>>47151916
>Thinks he's some kind of computer expert
>Still thinks OS X is locked down or whatever nonsense he read on /g/
What else is new?
>>47151950
Not an issue for me.
xubuntu
I am a lazy fuck and it works. It doesn't work perfectly. It is very, very, very far from perfect. But it works, mostly in the way I want, and I don't need to change much from a fresh install to be entirely at home with it.
>>47151891
it really fucking is
why the hell is it so polished on OSX, meh on Windows, and completely shit on Linux (it used to be about equal on Linux with Windows for a while, after Chrome 32 or so was released, shit dropped off hard and it got slow as fuck on my shitbox for no reason, ended up switching back to Firefox on Linux)
I really don't understand.
>>47151997
>Firefox on Linux
>polished
>still using GTK+2
>looks alien in every DE
>>47151906
Weren't you just bragging about how you don't need WMs and run everything ultraminimal?
>>47152093
On Linux yes. I don't use Linux as my main OS anymore though.
>>47151861
was pretty surprised how arch handles kernel updates coming from ubuntu, haven't had a kernel update fail in forever but still feels sketchy
Fedora since fedora 12 annd I'v have been reinstialling it eevery single month any of you guys reinstall yoour OS even if is right. I think I have a problem.
>>47152101
I see. I meant DE btw not WM
>>47152062
I've said for years they need to convert that shit to Qt. Hell, they started to once and now it's just a half-assed done mess that barely runs even with tons of hacks and patches.
what's the best distro for netbooks?
Antergos. Easy to install, recent versions of everything.
I've been happy with Fedora since 21 released. How long is it going to be good for until I have to run away and install Alpine?
KDE Mint.
Ubuntu server with OpenBox
it's the tits
>>47153021
>Ubuntu
xD
>>47153039
do you recommend something else?
>>47153068
Don't come here for approval. Go with your gut and hardware.
>>47153068
Arch if you're a more advanced user otherwise no
>>47150916
Same here. Except I am not suer about not switching...
Arch L00nix
>>47153141
I tried arch, the only difference I felt was it's package manager. I've always used apt, so it's hard for me to switch
OpenSUSE
>>47150891
windows
>>47151254
because they are like this... add selinux and yur fucked if you are not from nsa
>>47150916
>>47150934
i think he means ABS... the arch build system. it has issues from time to time if you dont update it properly or carefully, but PKGBUILDS are simple enough to hammer out the bugs yourself when they're there.
>>47153257
NSA only initially wrote SELinux.
Current codebase has prolly near zero lines from the NSA.
Apparmor is half-dead and even OpenSuse is now moving to SELinux.
>>47153289
archfag doesn't even know what an ABI is.
>>47151197
or particpate on irc support
>>47150934
Only if you don't know what you're doing.
>>47150803
ur mum
>>47153380
>>47153513
i'm confuse, what's abi matter when you're compiling from source, and if a lib breaks compatibility that's their fault and they should change the version
Ubuntu Gnome
I like it because the Ubuntu underpinnings Just Werkâ„¢ on my hardware with no configuring, and Gnome Shell is the best DE in my opinion. Sure Ubuntu development may be out of sync with the Gnome project but it makes little difference to me honestly.
>>47153548
Enjoy your dead-end.
Gnome wants to switch to Wayland at the end of the year and Canonical is hellbend on having Mir ready for the next LTS.
use debian mainly, but giving fedora a shot on my desktop, but still have a win7 partition for a few games coming out soon.
learning the ropes on that for now.
got two VPSs running now, one with debian the other with centos.
>>47153615
I know I'm on borrowed time, I just haven't decided if I'm gonna switch to Fedora or if I actually want to learn Arch once and for all. I'm leaning Fedora.
>>47150803
>Using Linux®
Eat shit, consumerist whores.
I've been using arch as my daily driver for a couple of months now without any major issues, not sure if that's going to continue to hold true once gcc 5 comes around though
>>47150803
>Xubuntu
Because I'm a faggot
>>47150803
Manjaro
Started using ubuntu for the first time ever a few days ago.
So between Antergos and Manjaro, what is the better arch4noobs distro? In the little research I've done it seems like Antergos has the edge.
man
so little manjaro in this thread
>>47153021
>>47153039
>>47153068
>>47153141
Ubuntu's fine if you're not using unity.
>>47153727
How are you liking it so far?
>>47153742
a niche-ier niche you are in.
>>47150803
ubuntu = human
arch = faggot wannab
gentoo = autist
anything else = lel tier
>>47153742
>>47153759
I use it. Pretty happy with it. Although 2 weeks ago an update trashed my user profile, and I had to set up a new one and migrate my data over to it. Working fine now.
>>47153764
canonical shill, go home.
>>47153764
ubuntu is for race mixing cucks
Normalfag here with a protip. In the "real world" people arent using gentoo and arch. They use debian, suse, and RH.
>>47153842
>oh my god stacy, that guy is using gentoo!
>like oh my god, what a fucking loser
>i know, he could at least use debian or a rpm based distro
>>47153865
>I will never have a job
>I will never shave my neck
>I will never be at a healthy weight
>b-b-but at least I can install gentoo
Fedora because red hat
>>47153879
jokes on you i have no skills
Ubuntu Ltr.
everything else is non polished bullshit.
> mfw canonical does a better job than freetards At their own jobs.
>>47150803
manjaro masterrace reporting in
>>47153897
yfw you are the only sad bastard that believes a word of that gibberish you just posted there.
Arch
>>47150803
Slackware
still setting up thogh
>>47153842
>They use debian, suse, and RH.
Real world is like
Ubuntu: 20 million users
OpenSuse: 400,000 users
Fedora: 100,00 users
Others: don't register
https://lizards.opensuse.org/2013/08/23/more-on-statistics/
Debian has hardly a Desktop presence. Hard to install, missing drivers, ancient software versions.
All in all it's basically all Ubuntu, tho Linux Desktop peaked in 2009.
>>47153811
Three men can't racemix though.
>>47150916
same, been using it for about 1 and half years now
tried gentoo too but compiling everything is really just a huge hassle and the speedup you get from use and makeflags is really not that noticeable to me
>>47154155
Just look at the numbers.
Canonical really did bring linux desktop forward.
Now of course freetards are butthurt that someone actually took a leadership role in desktop linux.
>>47154950
neither is there any speedup from those custom package selections, just annoying to setup.
quite the contrary instead of sane defaults, most arch systems have horrible configs like no power savings or all ports open.
Xubuntu master race
>>47151008
You just need to install some wannabe osx gtk-themes on Xubuntu and have basically the same or better experience than elementary.
>>47151493
>>not using a DE
Stopped reading there. Whatever it was, you deserved it.
>>47155099
This.
Just stop fisting your dicks and try to pull your head out of your haping ass.
Else Linux will be remembered as Ubuntu.
>>47155245
>>47153705
>>47151423
>>47150959
These right here, xubuntu it works just fine and doesn't come with a bunch of shit i don't use. Also xfce isn't super demanding, or shit like unit; and is actually customizable.
>>47153842
>Normalfag here with a protip. In the "real world" people arent using gentoo and arch. They use Windows, OSX and Ubuntu
Fix
>>47155327
wayland/mir will prolly kill xfce tho
Fedora has been kind to me over the years. Wish I was better at ricing though
>>47155304
I'm a scrub using standard Ubuntu with KDE installed.IMHO KDE is the best with unity being a close second.
I also do admit Ubuntu is not the most popular Linux distro,I mean let's face it:
http://distrowatch.com/
>>47151623
no it doesn't. i mean if you are a root account, yeah no shit. and you can run in root with sudo, but it doesn't require elevated permissions at all, and most people don't run it in root.
>>47155427
>distrowatch
>measuring popularity by clicks on their own site
>totally accurate
>>47155436
retard detected
Xorg runs as suid root because it needs direct hardware access by design
>>47155478
>Xorg runs as suid root because it needs direct hardware access by design
source
>>47155490
ps aux
OSX 10.9 Mavericks for work and home and pron and fap
>>47155490
X11 is just completely broken by design. root or not, there's no application isolation:
spam detection doesn't like that link, so google for: linux-security-circus-on-gui-isolation
>>47150803
Linux For Niggers(TM)
>>47152101
Why do you have that stupid fucken flower there, are you a fag?
Lubuntu 14.10
I'm a big fan of eOS though.
>>47150803
Debian because it just works and is build upon free software. Secondly because I have great respect for the OS's history and developer ethic.
I like kubuntu, no real reason though.
>>47150803
ArchLinux because it is very lightweight and customizeable
>>47156018
>lightweight
As is Debian and it's customizable too. What made you choose for a half baked distro?
Been using Ubuntu Gnome for over 2 years.
Couldn't be happier.
Windows runs far worse on my laptop (yes you heard it right) and can't customize it to fit my tastes.
OSX is too much of a babyOS.
Fedora 20 since I had it on a CD and didn't want to fuck up my expensive desktop, and needed something "safe" and reliable for schoolwork and everyday use.
arch
it's the simplest to use overall imo
>>47151365
what DE is this?
>>47156292
Read the screenfetch, retard.
>>47156304
how do you use gnome 2 and gnome 3 at once?
>>47151159
Bait/10
>>47156304
if you looked yourself you'd see it does not mention DE
arguably, anon's not using a DE, he probably just wants to know which panel
the panel looks like tint2 to me
>>47156323
now what even gives you that idea
>>47156332
i can't see any DE and i see gnome 2 and 3 there
Lubuntu, you config it and there's really no need for Gnome or Xfce.
Reminder: the official Ubuntu beta will come out within days.
>>47156367
where?
are you talking about the gimp toolkit 2/3 themes? gnome just happens to use gtk, gtk isn't gnome
>>47153257
SELinux is much easier with the tools in CentOS 7. And it's waaaay more powerful than AppArmor. The only thing that comes close ie grsec/pax
Xubuntu
>>47156230
>>47155916
Because I'm a faggot.
>ITT A bunch of plebs who don't make their own distro from scratch.
kubuntu
>>47156418
Really going to give this a shot next month
People who use Xubuntu and not Lubuntu - you are fucking idiots. Learn how to config, it can look and feel exactly the same.
>>47156415
topkek
>>47156458
Calm down, fagtron. It doesn't make any difference at all which *buntu anyone uses
CentOS is best OS.
SELinux ftw.
>>47156546
Lubuntu does use less resources, imo. (set up your own experiment)
So we're talking about saving the planet, you massive faggot!
>>47156562
>less resources
Yea, that desperately needed 40mb of ram
>>47156573
My laptop idles at least 5C lower than it used to.
A couple coal power plants are shitting up the environment with toxic crap just so you can run your shitty, bloated Xubuntus and other *buntus.
Fedora, but I wish they'd change the logo.
>anon why are you using facebook os
>>47151493
>not being able to use polkit/udisks without Guis
lol
>>47151493
>>using some ancient WM that doesn't even use cairo
>>GUI is slower than in a full-blown DE
>not using a compositing manager like compton that works with any WM
lol
Manjaro
>AUR
>Out-of-the-box config
SuSe 4 lyfe
>>47150803
Funtoo
>>47151259
>the GNU code
>my sides
First get a good book about programming. Learn to program before you learn how to code. That's basic.
>>47158023
>is one of those dumdums who think AUR isn't the worst idea for a user repository ever
Mint Xfce
Fedora, I don't have the time to tinker with everything and this shit just works out of the box. Also m'lady
ubuntu , and my operating systems professor is still using ubuntu so quit the autism guys
>>47150803
Arch. Switched from Ubuntu a week ago after using Ubuntu as my main for around a month. Prior to that I'd been using Ubuntu on and off with dual booting. Seriously, what is with people and the Arch install process? I was lead to believe this shit was going to be problematic as fuck... Apparently some people just can't into computer on /g/
>>47159743
>doing what your professor does
>Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.
Ubuntu. I need the nvidia drivers and cuda.
>>47159818
It's not really hard, it's just a hassle and you get nothing another distro wouldn't give you better.
>>47150803
lo/g/os for the may mays
>>47159857
It's not hard OR a hassle, though. My point is that the people who make a point of it being difficult/painful are actually just retarded. You literally follow step by step instructions
>>47159845
no i do not follow my professor, actually i asked him why he's using it and he said why would i use another one when i have all what linux offers ? i couldn't respond to that answer because i've been using ubuntu for 3 months and i didn't try anything else , maybe you can respond to his answer ...
>>47159921
bloat
spyware
:^)
>>47156650
Maybe FB should change their logo.
>>47153734
Antergos is arch, manjaro is arch based, choose
Debian GNU/Linux with sysvinit master race reporting in.
You Gentoo and Slack folk are cool too.
Fuck Archfags, though.
jessie here
>>47150803
arch, because I can be a part of the l33t haxxor community by copypasting commands from the arch wiki
>>47161116
I just installed Antergos, it works super great, super easy.
I've been using Mint for almost 3 years now. I've tried out most of the major distros, but keep coming back to Mint as my main OS. It's almost the perfect operating system. Everything just werks, comes loaded with a lot of useful software, preinstalled codecs & flash, and Cinammon is a really nice looking DE. Easily customized, and doesn't look like something from the 90's.
Mint also has some nice unique tools, like the backup tool that makes a copy of all the packages you've installed, so if you have to reinstall, you can simply install all your favorite programs with a couple clicks. You can take a fresh install & setup everything in less than 30 minutes. Useful as hell.
>>47162396
Is slackware compared to gentoo still a thing?
Never used it.
Would you guys recommend it for a gentoo autist ?
inb4 deprecated shit, using meme OS.
Fedora + XFCE
I remove all of the extra packages I don't need to get ~1000.
>>47150822
gentoo is the death grips of /g/
it's a meme m8
>>47164128
>it's a meme m8
so many people using and love it, can't be just a meme m8
Backtrack as a Desktop because I am a huge faggot
>>47164128
telling tards to install it is the meme. gentoo is a fine distro but not for newbs.
Arch, it takes a good while to configure the user space to you linking and set everything up right after the install, but once it's all done it's worth it and I've been using it for almost a year now and had no breakages at all, with the way autist on /g/ described it, it sounded like if you even considered updating it would burst into flames yet that's just simply not true.
>>47156615
calling bullshit:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/517413/how-do-ubuntu-flavors-compare-regarding-resource-consumption-and-performance
>>47158331
what you get out of the box
>open ports
>miserable font rendering
>no mp3/h.264 playback
>no prop drivers and always latest mainline kernel even when it breaks things
>rpmfusion isn't a solution because insecure as fuck
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3313
>>47159913
sure, but that still gives you a shitty config and is a waste of time
just picking security and compare against https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
>>47160425
needs to switch distro instead of configuring his system
