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>>46765347
Do people really keep adblock on in sites they link and use?
>get this message on a site
>go into adblock options
>select the list that blocks adblock warnings
not a single fuck was given
I disable on some sites, but man if they just toned down the fucking ads I would gladly remove adblock
>>46765357
I personally don't, i like to support useful to me
Same for Youtube but i do it for the Youtubers, not for Google (not very annoying to see a 10 seconds ads if it's to watch a 10 minutes video)
>>46765378
Useful sites*
>>46765347
>>Please consider disabling adblock to support our website
tab closed
>>46765347
>this site uses cookies
>please consider disabling adblock
>please enable javascript
>your browser is not supported
I'll disable adblock for a site I use a lot if the ads aren't annoying. Not 4chan though because it has annoying ads, and the people here suck. The world would be better off without this place.
jokes on them I switched to ublock
>>46765378
>Supporting youtube users
I bet you watch LP instead of playing games and shit, faggot.
>>46765378
I deliberately keep it on because I DON'T want to support the YT'ers and their disgusting trend of making money by playing games.
Youtube should just go back to being a platform where people share video's because they love making them, not because it can make them rich.
Now we have thousands of faggots who act like pewdiepie in hopes of getting some attention to their vids, making money out of it and not having to work a proper job.
>>46765347
>"please consider disabling adblock"
>consider it
>leave it enabled
well that was easy
>>46765523
>>46765483
> he thinks being an entertainer isn't a job
>>46765483
>I deliberately keep it on because I DON'T want to support the YT'ers and their disgusting trend of making money by playing games.
You just need to stop watching those videos anon.
Having adblock but still watching them is giving them free hits on their view counter anon.
>>46765347
I don't even block ads by default. If a site ends up showing something like that it should stop whining and seriously reconsider its choice of ad providers.
>>46765483
try this to make browsing youtube less painful
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-blocker/jknkjnpcbbgcbdbaampbjlhkcghmgfhk?hl=en
>>46765378
>not for Google
Well good thing they split the revenue 50:50... oh wait its like 99:1...
>>46765650
There ins't an "easy list" with every letsplayer and faggots like that already added?
>>46765559
Depends
I'd say a man pissing himself on the street and crying while doing it would make for great entertainment for myself.
But that wouldnt make him OR youtubers entertainers.
They are just spectacles really.
Embarassing spectacles.
>>46765437
>do I fit in yet, guys
Edge: The Movie part 2
>>46765483
I don't see what is so disgusting about making money from doing what you love. You must be one of those narrow-minded stick-in-the-asses who shakes your finger at people claiming playing video games will never get you anywhere.
>>46765730
No, seriously, I miss old days playthroughs where you could see the game being played without any guy faking shit and pretending to be a friend to the viewer.
That's some autistic level shit going on, same with streamers.
>>46765711
>it's 99:1
And Google still doesn't make any money off youtube so they're lucky to get 1%
>http://www.wsj.com/articles/viewers-dont-add-up-to-profit-for-youtube-1424897967
>>46765437
No, most of what i watch is game related content YES but only funny videos like Birgirpall's ones, DasBoSchitt, mans1ay3r
0 LP
>>46765747
How the fuck is YouTube going to get them anywhere?
It's like working a dead end job, except at the end of your employment you can't simply find another YouTube to work for.
They are digging themselves an early grave. YouTube money doesn't last forever.
>>46765757
>To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Log In
No, and thus I wouldnt even believe anything written there.
>oh no we arent giant jewish conglomerates, we dont earn a cent i swear
I dont need an article of this
uBlock master race
>>46765776
Have you tried disabling your adblocker?
>>46765725
And yet you watch it? You can't call someone's job bullshit when you're helping to create demand for it, edgeLord.
>>46765804
>disabling adblock
>>46765814
I watch what I want just like how they upload what I want, this is not a trade if they asked money for it I wouldnt watch it, its that simple.
Theres no "creating demand for youtubers", theres far more of them than "needed" because everyone wants the easy way.
>>46765405
>>your browser is not supported
>switch user agent
>it works perfectly
>>46765906
>have blank useragent
>"your browser is not supported"
>site still works fine
>>46765749
Yeah, (not that guy) but the only gaming content I watch are longplays (no commentary - such as cubex55) or speedruns. If there's commentary on a speedrun it's almost always just describing exploits, maybe the occasional joke - but no fake personas or "characters."
>>46765347
nice blog ioioyea aphallys
>>46765357
I disable it on sites like stackoverflow, w3school, php and other programming sites I use
>>46765830
Bruh. You're an asshole.
You're like a guy who'd take a free burger every day, enjoy that burger, then turn around and say "burger chefs are faggots, I'd never pay for a burger"
>>46765918
You shouldn't be using a blank user agent though. You'll stand out from the rest instead of blending in if you were actually using a popular user agent.
>>46765523
spat water on my keyboard
>>46765347
/g/ has convinced me to uninstall ad-blockers and cookie destroyers. If I can help speed up the ending of all things, well, I am going to try as hard as I can.
I use to joke that I owned the zippo lighter which would start the fire that will consume the earth.
>>46766008
Blank useragaents are pretty common, many bots use them.
>>46765982
>supporting w3schools
Please don't.
>>46765347
The funniest ones are those sites that try to appeal to your emotions through some clever words and smilies. How fucking pathetic can you get?
>>46765830
Is that how you justify pirating? You wouldn't have bought / went to cinema for that movie anyway so pirating is no harm right?
>>46766068
>Pwease disable adblock, hon. :) For me? <3 xox
>go to download site
>4 different buttons that say "download now!"
> only one is real
>>46766207
The smallest download button is usually the correct one.
>>46766207
>>go to download site
why
>>46766218
This or the text button.
>>46766000
No, you are a stupid conditioned consumerist faggot.
If I shit on the street and you eat it, thats your business, and putting up your own video channel on the net for everyone to watch FOR FREE, is the same thing.
I can eat it if I want and shit on it if I want.
Fuck you fuck you and fuck you.
If you are an "entertainer" whos building quality entertainment for me, invests his own money and time to create something worth watching - HE BETTER HAVE THE FUCKING BALLS TO ASK MONEY FOR IT, IF HE THINKS ITS WORTH PAYING MONEY FOR.
Just because theres a "loophole" that they can get paid by youtube for creating some traffic for them, and earn money by making products which ARE NOT worth paying for, thats their thing.
Create product
Ask money for it
Get paid
Not
Create product
Put out for free
Demand money
So fuck you and the rest of your "hey I'll just make shitty witty videos where I cut 8192 times because I cannot act before a camera because I never had any training or studies regarding this, and hop on some popular fad to get hits and touch on the most shallow controversial stuff!"
Playing vidya on camera is not a job.
Putting up videos on a free to use site is not a job and under no circumstances you can complain about the lack of getting paid for it.
If you dare think its a job - then simply ask money for it.
If you dont dare do it but still demand it you are BEGGER.
>>46766256
someone needs to take some Ritalin
>>46766316
Because in murrica anyone who makes sense should take some ritalin so they stop.
>>46766000
No. He is like a guy who won't load ads. Your analogy is shit.
>>46766316
He has a point though
>>46766335
I wouldn't know. I didn't even read his post.
>>46766371
Cause you already taken your Ritalin.
>>46766380
i know someone else who did
>>46766256
Hey gramps, the entertainment industry is changing. If you think the only way for a media to be legitimate is to have major funding and be on the shelves of your local Wal-Mart™, you're a faggot beyond compare.
>>46766415
I'm a faggot if I think work = pay?
I'm sorry kid but you wont be able to have your easy rich life by sperging out on youtube forever.
I mean you are obviously too young to do it right now but I'm sure you are planning on it.
>>46766256
The internet has washed out the old well-defined roles of provider and consumer
In a way it's just the sillicon valley corporate culture taken out of the corporate level.
"We're all buddies here"
I can't stand it
Give me some fucking clear-cut roles and a hard-defined transaction
>>46766335
what
>>46766456
Trading favours is one thing, that'll never go away and its the evil of our world.
But I dont care if people can earn themselves rich through donations and ad-revenue - but dont they fucking dare demand I support them.
If they dont want a non-supporter to see their content then make me pay for it.
I could probably make my entire paycheck if I fapped on chaturbate for a month - but that doesnt fucking mean thats a job.
It would be if I went on a site that requires payments though.
>>46766532
Pointing a webcam at your penis and jacking off is nothing like writing a script, making a video, editing the video, uploading it, and tjen engaging with your viewers to make the next. If your idea of a serious youtuber is raw footage of gameplay while someone mouth-breathes on the mic, then yes, that's not a job. But if we're talking full production, like AVGN, Projared, Jontron, or the Game Theorists, you're way off base.
>>46766715
Doesnt matter.
If you think what you are doing is worth money, ask for it.
Its that simple, fair trade, something for something.
You are supporting the idea that cyberbegging, asking for alms and donations is a respectable profession - well fuck you, you are just insulting ALL the real professions.
You cannot make a point against this so stop sucking their dick you wannabe beggar.
>>46766207
> downloading things from a website
windows users are so funny
>>46766802
>>46766715
Funny thing is that "proper" business practice is completely incompatible with what these people are doing
There's some heavy dublethink going on. The pubescent girls realise pdp is acting, but at the same time they still like and believe in his persona. If he moved behind a paywall the illusion would shatter completely
It's a cancer
>>46765559
Are you producing something useful for society?
It's not an job negro. You're just a parasite.
>>46766802
The only thing that confuses me about your arguements is how do you compare this to TV/cable tv/magazines/newspapers all things that have plenty of ads in them, some even after you pay for the service or item still
>>46767000
I'm not a youtuber.
Bunch of bitter autists in this thread.
>"it's playing a game, therefore it's not work! Ever!"
>"they don't ask for money upfront, so it's not a real job!"
>"it doesn't require skill!"
Meanwhile, no one in this thread could
>have an interesting format
>script and shoot a video with any degree of quality
>hold an audience/gain a following
Fact: there isn't a marketplace for this kind of content with the same exposure or ubiquity as YouTube.
>we noticed you are an adblock user, if you would like to support out site here is our paypal donation link
Why don't more sites do this?
>Please consider disabling adblock to support our website
Market is changing. Adapt or die.
>watch a board game review
>I like it and want to buy it
>google knows I like board games
> serves me an ad for a local board game store
>buy game from them
>google, content creator, and store make money from me watching a video I paid nothing for
>play game with gf
>she's moistened by my strategy skills
>fug all night
>this is somehow a bad thing
Thank you based google
>>46767436
Congrats on giving them $0.001
>>46765357
How are you supporting a site merely by enabling ad frames? Unless you're clicking said ads, they're not generating any revenue for anyone. All you're doing is wasting their bandwidth, which is even worse than simply blocking them.
>>46767489
Actually, each click is around $0.2 and I click quite often.
>>46767408
>search for herpes treatment
>google finds out you have herpes
>herpes ads everywhere
>gf thinks you told everyone about her herps
>breaks up with you, cries rape
>arrested, end up doing prison time
t-thanks google
>>46767436
Corporation cocksucker
>>46767556
that's what you get for dating a degenerate and being part of the botnet
>>46767436
epic meme
> people acting like not having to pay for content they didn't like is a bad thing
You mean to tell me NONE of you have ever bought a movie, game, or program that ended up being shitty?
>>46765347
>>Please consider disabling adblock to support our website
I did it just once and they repaid me by ruining my computer. An ad slipped a trojan full of pure cancer past my av and gimped my os so bad I had to reformat. Never again.
>>46765347$ wc -l < /etc/hosts
47173
~50,000 line long host file + uBlock for cosmetic cleanup
>>46767557
>>46767596
So angry
>>46767754
>n-no y-your mad a-anon.
>I-I love being a corporate bitch.
>>46767639
I've never bought a movie, a game, or a program.
I use NoScript. I enable ads for websites I use given that it isn't drowned in the equivalent of a master's essay of script URLs.
>>46767803
Once you graduate from primary school and start making your own money, I'm sure you will, anon :^)
>adblockers are known to cause issues with this site. Disable them for a better experience
I don't mind ads as long as it does not intrude on my browsing.
>>46766019
>I use to joke that I owned the zippo lighter which would start the fire that will consume the earth.
You're a humongous fucking faggot.
>>46765357
4chan is my most used site and I don't allow ads here.
I wanted to see neat ads, but it was always weeb shit. It wasn't worth allowing.
If there's a noteworthy ad, there's usually a thread about it anyway.
>>46768416
So is everyone that thinks the fire won't consume them. You are all little kids running around with matches burning down the internet.
Good job.
When it becomes what you ``feared'' most, you will only have yourselves to blame. Enjoy it while it lasts, children. You are about to get an achievement.
Cold hard reality sinks in. 100₧
>Live an ignorant life all the way to the end.
>>46767436
HAHA I've seen it on 9gagz too. I never use dese "ad blog" thingies, and I wouldn't dare to have poodiepie lose money, amirite?
>>46768448
>If there's a noteworthy ad, there's usually a thread about it anyway.
lol wtf? a thread about an ad is few and far between so put the pipe down jamal
>>46767261
Holy shit your one of those fucking faggots who watches pewdiepie shit arent you? Why anon? Are you that deprived of any decent entertainment?
>>46768448
I wanted to see neat ads, but it was always porn and autoplaying video shit. It wasn't worth allowing.
>>46768662
The DDG ads got some threads.
>>46768720
>It wasn't worth allowing.
Exactly.
>>46768699
I don't like PDP, no. I find him annoying, and he's the aforementioned "raw footage with mouth breathing" from >>46766715.
>>46768734
>>46768720
>mfw go on 4chan on a non-adblocked computer for first time in years
>autoplaying unfunny DDG ads
I was actually thinking about disabling, but fuck if those things aren't obnoxious. On 4chan of all places. I would have been fine with the ads selling onaholes.
>>46768848
I actually like the animated "read the fucking rules" ads, since they're kind of the same as our banners, but fuck the DDG ones. [spoiler]and FUCK jewcob advertising his fakku bullshit here[/spoiler]. J-List reminding me to buy an onahole with a cat in a suit is perfectly acceptable though, at least they're somewhat humorous.
I block ads everywhere.
On a fundamental level, ad-revenue is exploiting your users. Most users may not care, or even be glad that they can support you in a way that they feel is doing them no harm, but that does not change my view.
Online advertising has far reaching and disturbing effects - to target ads more effectively, more data on the user must be gathered. There is a financial incentive to harm privacy.
Again; Many do not care, many view this as something that will never hurt them. Maybe it's true - maybe only computers will use that data, and maybe that data will only be used in life-enriching ways, but the overall structure of the system is one of limited consent and transparency.
I will block all ads. If I become a content creator, I will never enable ads. There are ways of earning money, and exploiting my users is not one I would consider ethical. If that means I have to get a real job, which I hate, I'll simply deal with it for the good of my users.
I can't compel others to do likewise, that's their decision and down to their own views on ads and their user-bases, but I'm not going to support them if they decide that exploiting their users is the right course of action to take. They'll earn money from others, others with different views or no knowledge of ad-blocking software anyway.
>>46765357
why go to the effort of disabling it?
ads are always a) useless and b) shit
>>46769287
What about ads that do not have tracking capabilities?
>>46769373
Not him, but the people producing ads are garnering for clicks, and you're more likely to click on something if it's relevant to your interests. The tracking happens before you even visit the page with the ad.
That's not to say anything of ads being vectors for malware or whatever other shady shit goes on.
>>46769392
projectwonderful displays chill ads
>>46769373
I consider them exploitative too - they still use the users bandwidth, etc, without explicit consent. (loading a consent form would probably cause similar use levels and be more overall inconvenient, but there's a basic principle at work here.)
I would give some consideration to unblocking them as a transitional measure - provided they were entirely tracking free, yet also not blatant scams. (I'm not sure this would be profitable - certainly not as profitable, but I feel there must be some potential in a non-tracking "This uploader put their videos in the "Technology" category, so let's show technology ads" system) since although they are harmful, they're a lesser evil, and perhaps I'd be willing to encourage a lesser evil over the greater evil we currently face in the form of tracking adverts.
I hold other questions over the morality of ads as a whole, but these are less articulate so I'll not bother detailing them.
I would likely refrain from using non-tracking ads to fund my own content, again preferring self-funding and donations to risking exploitative action. If I did choose to use adverts to raise money, I'd probably be unpopular with advertisers anyway as I would feel compelled to remind my users that if they dislike the ads, they should install adblock.
>>46769392
True, but you could give a website a monthly payment for just showing your ads. That way the content creator gets some money and the users privacy is not hampered.
>>46769476
Seems pointless now that every content creator has a donation page.
>>46769470
look into projectwonderful they seem exactly up your alley
and just like you say the profits you'll make from them are lower than other alternatives
>make website that appeals to smart people
>ads blocked by 50% of users
>make website that appeals to stupid masses
>ads blocked by 1%< of users.
>>46769564
even if those numbers were inverted, stupid people are better investments.
>>46769470
I agree, ads are an easy way to produce revenue for content creators . They have no purpose but to lure you buying a product/service that you never asked for.
But what about ads that promote your own products? Let's say I made a game and created a website with a download link, news, forum etc. As a way to gather donations I sell clothing with the logo of my game. In order to direct people to the webshop that sells my clothing , I place a banner that redirects to the webshop. Of course I could add a 'shop' to the menu, but a banner is a lot more flashy and fans can share the banner.
>>46769692
Self-advertisement in that way (I'm assuming you don't go to the effort of tracking what pages the user visits and suggesting the most relevant merchandise based on that.) is negligibly harmful. It would probably be caught by "block-by-default" on my end, but there's little actual issue with it. It's relevant enough to the content of the site.
If you were doing something other than a game, such as perhaps an LPer, it may be of questionable taste, possibly appearing obnoxious or such depending on the specifics of the advert. That's not a "moral" issue though, merely an aesthetic one, or one of personal taste.
>>46765347
Fuck your ads.
Provide a service / product that I want and I will buy it.
Revenue from ads is sleazy. Crying about your ads being blocked is babby tier.
Fuck off.
>>46767436
yes, fuck you.
you're not supporting your faggotry lets player friends, you're supporting jewgle.
i block ads for a simple reason
too many malware ridden ads are out there, and im at the point that i will root my phone just to install an adblock, because fuck all these pop-up blocker bypassing, porn ads that happen on random sites
especially on boorus
fuck ads in general
>>46766008
>Use windows 8.1
>change useragent to firefox linux
why would I install an adblocker only to later disable it? please don't tell me what to do with my own equipment.
I use adblocking software and no one can stop me. Don't like it? Put your videos behind a paywall.
why do people feel so entitled to money
why aren't they content to do it >for free
see if everyone wanted money that would make sense, but they don't, some people are willing to do things for free, sans salaire, pro bono, for the fun of having an audience.
yet others seem to want more, to want not just an audience but swathes of paying customers.
that's not why i block ads - i block ads because ads are ugly wastes of space hotlinking to blatant viruses - but i wonder.
>>46772476
An audience is enough for me.
I just write horse smut though.
