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How come frontend/web developers get no respect?
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How come frontend/web developers get no respect from other programmers who consider themselves 'real software engineers' because they're using stuff like C/C++ and working on complex physics engines, 3D rendering systems, embedded circuits, etc?
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>>46700859
Please do not equate front-end developers with web developers. Web developer is an umbrella term that covers a wide variety of things.

I did web development in my old job in C++ doing lightweight image and video processing, heavy file operations, full-text search in image XMP/IPTC metadata, writing background services etc.

I did not do JavaScript and HTML/CSS.
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>>46700859
>How come frontend/web developers get no respect?
Because that's an easy task that even a monkey could perform after a short training.
For a good indicator if a task is easy, look at the % of women doing it.
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>>46700859
>How come frontend/web developers get no respect from other programmers who consider themselves 'real software engineers'
because those real software engineers are using stuff like C/C++ and working on complex physics engines, 3D rendering systems and embedded circuits.
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>>46700859
I can't take a woman seriously when they're dressed so sexy.
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What a qt
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>>46701434
I would say when someone is standing in there underwear for no reason other than to show off there sexual traits in a completely non sexual setting, they shouldn't be taken seriously.

If that were a dude in his underpants it would also be silly.
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>>46700859
>coding

even her stupid shirt has got it wrong
if anything it should've been
do{
lookCute();
} while(coding);

this is why female programmers need to go away
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Imagine being the fat one
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>>46700859
>other programmers
shiggy
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>>46700859
>>46701543
l-lewd
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>>46701543
why are they portraying themselves as objects by taking off their clothes?
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>>46701543
patty delgado is best girl
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>>46700859

Simple:

If your job can be done for you by installing a stupid framework that everyone else is using and your only job is to maintain it, you're obviously useless.
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>>46701485
she didnt make the shirt? The person doing wardrobe for the photo shoot does.
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>>46701609
Or Adda Birnir

6=3, 5, 4, 1, POWERGAP, 2
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>>46701591
i really don't get this. if they are smart and have a good job in a tech field. why diminish your own worth in your field by stripping? just be god damn professional!
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>>46701626
if she's a "coder" she should at least spot the problem, guess why she can't
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>>46701635
Swap 4 and 5 then its perfect
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>>46701655
tbh I was very close to putting 4 and 5 equal
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>>46701651

>but men can dress casually at work!

I love this excuse.

If more women came to work in jeans and a t-shirt there would be zero issues.

To dress casually is one thing. To dress like you're headed to the beach is completely different.
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>>46701622

But App Academy trains people to be Web Developers for free and:

>98% of our graduates have offers or are working in tech jobs. In 2014, SF graduates received an average salary of $105,000; in 2014, NY graduates received an average salary of $89,000.

>average salary
>$105,000
>$89,000

No one pays a useless person that kind of salary.
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>>46701622
can you really blame people for being replaced by machines? It's not their fault that the computer makes the job easy. WHat kind of tard takes pride in having a job that could kill him?
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>>46701678
I think you've replied to the wrong guy
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>>46701686

and when you get a job they take your money! such a deal goy...I mean, fellow developer!
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>>46700859
>JS is a serious language
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>I'm a mom, mentor, coder, hacker, strategist, and change agent.

Tech is interesting with the titles they come up with
>tech info evangelist
>awesome people support jedi
>happy social media enthusiast
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>>46701434
Wu pls go. There isn't going to be screenshots for you to take here.
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>>46701678
>This much of a virgin NEET he gets the sweats when he sees some skin
Literal muslim
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>>46701543
Jesus Christ check the size of that chick
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>>46701916

>actually wanting nudity in a workplace

You're just as bad as the writer of that one buzzfeed article saying that 3 piece suits are oppressive because "the upper echelon elite use it to keep working underlings in line"

There is a time and a place for sexual freedom. Expressing it at work is not only childish, but disgusting.
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>>46701961
I agree but if it's a hot piece of ass I am not complaining, livens up the workplace
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>>46701961
>You're just as bad as the writer of that one buzzfeed article saying that 3 piece suits are oppressive because "the upper echelon elite use it to keep working underlings in line"

I said nothing of the sort

>Expressing it at work is not only childish, but disgusting.

Well not really, but this rather pointless photoshoot was just that, a photoshoot.
Not the work place
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>>46701591
They're doing object orientated programming of the social kind.
>It's not compiling.
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Who gives a shit? Do what you enjoy.
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>>46701543
So which one of these strippergrams can actually program?
My idea of a stag night isn't hiring a stripper to acknowledge my pull requests.
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>>46701543
>Adda Birnir
10/10 would marry.
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>>46702025
It is mine :^)
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>>46702010
Best but also most boring post in this thread.
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>>46700859
I'd smash her stack if yannowaddimean
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>>46702083
I still don't understand how she is in her underwear, but whatever
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>>46702083
It's time to lose weight when you have the body proportions of Dr Robotnik
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>>46700859
>"BLAH BLAH BLAH MISOGYNY BLAH BLAH BLAH OPPRESSION BLAH BLAH BLAH"
>BUT LOOK AT ME IN MY UNDERWEAR DURP DURP
fucking attentionwhoring cumdumpsters.
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>>46702083
>creator of style
>she is literally exploding out her underwear

i try not judge people but i am laffin
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but does she got a booty
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>>46702083
Her lack of chin is disturbing.
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>>46702083
She looks kinda like smug Pepe or whatever...

>pic related
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why are you guys so threatened by women in their underwear again? like seriously i really dont understand its just people in their underwear.
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>>46702279
I'm not threatened, I'm turned on
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>>46700859
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>>46702153

Since this thread has derailed into "why female developers get no respect" I'll chime in.

I work in electronics recycling, and there is a new woman working on our website. I've yet to see any of her work yet, but I have faith that she will get the job done. However, I've met plenty of other female developers in the past that can't and they've all had one thing in common, at least to me: they have an irrational fear of competition while simultaneously have an equally irrational impulse to always be right.

A prime example being that there was one woman I met while doing simple front-end work to present an eula to customers.

I essentially wrote something quick that didn't open a popup. She become aggressive after I suggested an alternative to her, but instead of defending her solution and saying it was better, she said "both are equally effective, but I suggested mine first." Needless to say mine was used instead. She left a few weeks later to start her own business.
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>>46702083
absolutely disgusting
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>>46702494
>manspig
>check yuor privileg
>muh patriachr
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>>46702279
no one understands the point

like do you want us to look at your tits or don't you?
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>>46702279
It's not being threatened, it's laughable. What would you think if you saw men in their underwear trying to present themselves as serious people?

They're in their fucking underwear. The times when you see a woman in their underwear is when you're about to wreck her vagina.
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>>46702246
Someone needs to edit the hand in
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>>46702083
being fat is one thing but why is she posting pics of herself in her underwear to the internet???
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>>46702682
i care about peoples work i dont give a shit about what they wear.
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>>46702741
Feminists. They think people will respect them if they're underwear models.
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>>46702752
If two people show up to a job interview, and one of them is in their underwear, which one would you hire?
Assuming everything else is equal.
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>>46702741
it's acceptable to be fat and show off your fat disgusting body now

in any other time in history we would have shamed these people into exercising and being healthy

it's truly a terrible time to be alive
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>>46702682
>What would you think if you saw men in their underwear trying to present themselves as serious people?
Men and women are different, dumbass.
>lol why do women put on make-up? if men did it'd be laughable
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>>46702772
Don't give them the respect by calling them feminists
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>>46702799
All the rich and powerful people used to be fat as fuck not too long ago.
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>>46702809
not according to feminists

and plus lots of men wear makeup and it's not laughable, so your comparison doesn't make sense
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>>46702824
that's because you had to be rich to afford food

they were still disgusting to look at, it was just a status symbol
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>>46702827
>why do women put on bras? men don't
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>>46702790
Depends on if underwear guy was a chad or not
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>>46702809
Yes, men and women are different. They think that posing in their underwear will make people respect them.
This is why they don't get respected.
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No work environment needs a woman who is more focused on her body and social aspects of her life instead of doing actual work.

I work with such a woman who acts like this and it drives me and everyone else I work with up the wall. Women who act like this are cancer and create toxic environments.

It's similar to be who want to fight racism while perpetuating a stereotype, it's fucking retarded
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>>46702790
the person who would be a better team player.
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>>46702855
still terrible

women wear bras for support

men wearing underwear to work is just as ridiculous as women wearing underwear to work
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>>46702873
>assuming everything else is equal
Are you illiterate or just an idiot?
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>>46702881
This, let your balls dangle free like God intended
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> technology needs women
Why? Why the verb "to need"? Why would we "need" them. Unlike other professions with a ~0.5 women ratio, the engineering sector is pretty healthy and has always been.
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>>46702902
because shitlord equality

stop oppressing me
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>>46702930
You are triggering zyme. Stop it already.
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>mfw women desperately trying to infiltrate the tech sector in bulk to stop the developments that will render women obsolete
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>>46702983
Women already are obsolete outside of the home.

No one needs women in the workplace. There are plenty of men that need jobs. Giving women jobs has ruined the economy.
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>>46703012
>economy goes well
>more women join the workplace

>economy goes badly
>nothing wrong with being a housewife

It's like clockwork
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>>46703012
I agreed to everything but:
>Giving women jobs has ruined the economy.
Well, yeah, no. It's perfectly fine to have women in places where people just shuts the fuck up (i.e. manual jobs and the like).
It does makes the ambient in other sectors way more shitty, however.
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>>46702902
Because it's only women who want to solve life-changing problems of course. Can't you read?
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>>46703058
when women started to get into the workforce, the biggest issue was that there became too many people looking for not enough jobs
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>>46703061
Ah sorry, I didn't know men were only good at playing vidyae because men are manchlidren, no exceptions. Wymyn are here to save us.
brb, I'm checking my privileges and tipping my fedora.
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>>46703058
It's impossible to raise a family on a single income anymore. They've made it so we all have to work in order to survive, instead of having a sole breadwinner and a wife at home.

As it should be.
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>>46703100
>there became too many people looking for not enough jobs
Jobs are not a fixed resource, but a dynamic one. The more people have works, the more they consume, the more the market expands, the more jobs are available. The less people have jobs...
So no, it was not a problem of there being women or not.
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>>46700859
>look guise to say shit i need to be in underwear
>;)
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>>46702083
Why do the fat ones and the "strong womyn" types always have those same glasses?
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>>46703148
I've always wondered that too.
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>>46703138
>I'm a girl btw
>>46703114
>It's impossible to raise a family on a single income anymore.
It's very possible, but you'll have to lower your life standards, that's for sure.
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>>46703148
they think it hides their fat disgusting face somehow
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>>46702246
This is Little Caprice all over again.Can someone post the pic i need to fap.
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>>46703137
If half of the people looking for jobs stopped, there would be way more jobs available.

Are you really trying to refute that?
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>>46701543
rebecca garcia is cute.
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>>46703226
>actually being this retarded at economy
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>>46703170
>It's very possible, but you'll have to lower your life standards, that's for sure.

Exactly. At every level of society except the very top, people tend to spend just as much as they have, whether it's minimum wage or 8 times as much.
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>>46702887
the person i liked more then. its clothes or lack thereof, get over it
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>>46703262
So you can't refute it really, you can just insult.

In the current market of jobs that are available, if all women stopped looking for work, the jobs that exist would not cease to exist.

There would be more jobs available for the people who don't have them.
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>>46702812
Subtle.
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>>46703289
I wasn't him, but I do agree with him. You're stupid at economics. If all women stopped to work, they'd stop both to produce and to earn money, they'd consume much less, so the market would shrink, and the percentage of jobs would be the same.
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>>46703563
Not even him, but that's fucking wrong.
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>>46703582
What part? The part where women don't earn money if they don't work, the part where they consume less if they have less money, or the part where market shrinks as the number of customers decreases?
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>>46701579
She's grotesque
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>>46703606
If women were propping the market up it was an artificial market anyway.

Lots of jobs don't need to exist, but there would still be enough of a marketplace solely for men.
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>>46703720
I'm talking about whether women working cause a higher unemployment rate or not.
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>>46703720
So producing and consuming is "propping the market up" in an artificial way?
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They do in the real world. It's only on online communities where this attitude persists. Same with PHP.

Opinions get amplified on the internet.
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>>46703764
The production jobs would still exist. They would still consume, just with their husband's money.
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>>46703228
Shame shes a fucing mexican.
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>>46703793
;^)
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>>46703563
>>46703606

The part that assumes that women will stop having needs and spending money

i know women who spend $200 on makeup.
that sort of shit makes me laugh
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>>46703793
I know I'm a race traitor but latinas are cute
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>>46703848
Plus they cook better food.
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>>46703910
very true
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is op for real with this question?

you can learn the context of html and css in a dedicated week.
developer languages take a month or more.
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>>46703848
Latinas are cute, but if you thought Americans were fat....
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