Homeserver Thread
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>implying that is my setup
It all goes in the homeserver thread
Hello gee
I am basically at a cross roads here between picking up some older used enterprise hardware and building a homeserver solution myself.
I need a type one hypervisor to split some work and services into different VMs.
It won't me very resource intensive.
Long story short, I put this together:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vCbLqs
(mobo and ram are in the custom category)
What does gee think? Is this a worthwile build for the steep price point or should I focus on getting prebuilt poweredges/supermicros? Would it be wise to lower a gen into the ivy bridge field?
If you think I should go the enterprise route, what models of servers would be best to look into?
Please help me. I would really appreciate suggestions
>>45716134
out of curiosity, those UPS are there only to have a safe shutdown if the power goes out. They aren't really capable of powering that setup, right?
>>45716185
Essentially that is correct.
More importantly for me it also helps protect against some of the "dirty" power my area is known to have at times. Not the best obviously, but better than a simple surge protector (or six banger especially).
>>45716258
>>45716185
Failed to mention, I have a few more, but they are not shown.
>>45716185
I have that same old APC. It only outputs 350 watts for about ten minutes. So yeah, just for brown outs and safe shutdowns.
I don't actually use it anymore though, since my rig puts it into overload if I'm doing something even slightly intensive. Not really sure what to do with it.
>>45716294
It's still dandy for small NAS box protection. Most consumer NASes can talk to them.
>Home server thread
>not "Rack City, Bitch"
Hey /g/, is vmware workstation is better than virtualbox?
last time i heard its such ramhog and keep some services running on host even when you not running the program. is this true?
I use these now behind my rack. There's not a ton of room for cables, but you can get several cat5/6 in one and an ac cord in another. Makes a huge difference not worrying about tripping and disconnecting cables.
And yes - the rubber ones are cheaper but they always seem to curl no matter what you do. These please my OCD.
I run a tacked together Atom N330 + Ion ITX setup, running 4GB DDR3 ram.
I've had the drive fail on me once or twice since 2009
I'm contemplating on moving the web server part of the server onto a USB flash drive, would that wear down and die too fast?
Server handles about 2,700,00~5,500,000 visitors per year.
I guess I should keep this going.
Got a HP ProLiant ML350 G5, Xeon 5120 1.8GHz dual core. 5GB DDR2 FB-DIMM RAM.
Two 300GB SATA drives in RAID1 at the moment.
Waiting to upgrade it all, planning on two quad core Xeons with 32GBs of RAM and about 4TB of total storage from a funky RAID setup.
This all depends though as I may be able to get some IBM X Series servers
>>45718833
Just got that in my loft with a 24 port 10/100 switch as it's the only switch I have spare and have a wireless access point up there.
Oh and an Ultrium LTO2 tape drive with 4 400GB tapes.
>>45716115
Should I get a Linux server or just install the copy of Windows Server 2012 that I got for free?
>>45716177
I wouldn't ever build a server by parts, you're better off going with a prebuilt and getting a decent support warranty.
For business solutions I tend to use Dell Poweredge servers, good warranty, good reliability and a damn decent price. The only thing to be aware of with home servers is that they're very power intensive.
>>45718851
Is it r2 or just 2012?
To be honest both are good solutions but if you're looking to do something more client/server than just run a media centre and a website I've been very impressed by 2012r2.
I just have a dedi in a datacentre someplace in Germany.
I'm not rigging some fan-quieting system for some ex-corporate crap that then takes up space in my tiny room.
>>45718931
I'd give it a go then, I work in a mixed Windows and Linux shop and I've been impressed with how easy 2012 r2 is to cluster and manage generally.
Posting my Poweredge 1950 III.
Just bought a new 4790K and a new mobo to replace my 8350, so I'll probably be turning that into a ghetto server to compliment the Poweredge.
>>45716134
>orange font crt
Give please. That looks straight out of the Alien movie.
>>45719062
>orange
>implying it isn't amber
>>45719065
Please forgive me, amber is actually my favourite colour.
>>45719055
On top of the old HP Proliant DL360 G2(?) that it was replacing. Still have the HP, but I don't use it anymore.
>>45719101
Last pic, my server terminal.
>>45718851
depends
if you want to dive into Linux the knowledge pays off better in the future since you can deploy it for free
R2 is easier
>>45718888
Yup. Prebuilt seems to be the way to go here.
The only advantages I honestly see in my build are the new chipsets, DDR3, and the build being quiet. I could get a system from 08 with four physical xeons, 48GB of RAM and 2TB for 600USD used which seems like the more attractive option even with the higher power costs.
>>45718888
forgot to mention, thanks for the input
do older workstations make for good homeservers?
those running media streaming servers, what specs do you have? I've been thinking about it. not sure what kind of hardware I'm looking at.
Am I missing something here,
what makes this unmanaged 16 port gigabit worth 140USD besides faggot cisco tax
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2424194
>>45721459
reliability from a brand you can trust
>>45721514
botnet included :^)
I forgot to auto bid on it anyway
My home server is a netbook running transmission, nginx and a git repository.
>>45721514
>>45721459
also IOS....
>>45721531
its used for most of the networking in the world....learn it or be unemployed.
>>45721262
I'm running a perfectly functional streaming server from an N40L, I can stream 1080p perfectly fine.
>>45721149
They most definitely do. Unlike most racked equipment,they are meant to be somewhat close to people and are generally much more quiet.
And they don't even have to be that old TBH to get a fairly good deal on equipment.
Only con really is that some of the parts can be more expensive,you can't get stuff as dense as you could with racked stuff...but that's not an issue for most people.
>>45721555
>its used for most of the networking in the world....learn it or be unemployed.
too bad its unmanaged and 140USD+
>>45721149
Of course, I'm using a PowerMac G5
>>45716115
your cisco switch is the wrong way round, nigger.
>>45721581
kek, all its missing is an apple logo
>>45721633
>lel Apple r overpriced guise
Just go away
what's my best option for a plug and play NAS?
I don't really understand how to set one up and use it.
I would just be using it to archive anime, porn, and photos, and maybe watch porn off of it.
>>45721699
>150USD for unmanaged 16 port gigabit
>thinking he's not paying for the logo
>>45721738
its usually some box with low end specs and space for a raid card and HDDs
>>45721765
Then he should be making fun of Cisco, not Apple.
>>45721699
>implying they aren't
i just made that picture for you 5 seconds ago
not overpriced at all
>>45721787
Apple tends to follow the same trend with their hardware
see mac mini, iphone
>>45721549
and that's good enough for most anon
way to be powersmart
Does anybody know anything about Roundcube? I could use a bit of help getting autologon to work. I want to be able to autologon from localhost, and there's an extension that's supposed to do that, but it doesn't work.
Also, people who run servers out of their homes, do you have a residential or a business account with your ISP?
>>45721805
>>45721808
The Mac Mini and Apple's iOS devices are the only arguably overpriced ones, and even then, arguably.
>>45721836
It's also mostly silent
>>45721857
>localhost
just enable NAT reflection from your router's end maybe?
I have a home serv on residential
Its shit because they block 22 and throttle 80 as well as other protocols
>>45721805
>living in a third world shithole
>blaming apple
>>45721905
this is my trouble
trying to build a type one hypervisor for some work and personal use
its much more expensive to assemble from scratch so I've been looking at used enterprise gear
most of it is fuckhuge, needs a powerstation to run, and is comparable to the sound of a vacuum cleaner
been stressed about picking components since I don't exactly have thousands to throw away
>>45721981
moving the goalpost to hide the fact you enjoy Job's dusty cancer ridden dick in your ass
>tfw just got two IBM 16 port unmanaged gigabit switches off fleabay for 36USD alltogether
Its a good feel
>>45721955
>Its shit because they block 22 and throttle 80 as well as other protocols
Yeah, that sucks. My ISP doesn't seem to mind me running a website and will unblock 22 upon request, but they won't set my PTR record because my address isn't technically static, so I don't know if I'd make it through spam filters. Right now I use a dirt cheap VPS as a relay for my mail server, which I run on my desktop computer. I wouldn't mind paying a little extra to cut the VPS out of the equation, but I don't know how much more expensive a static IP would be. I can access my inbox remotely using webmail (Roundcube) or K-9 on my phone. I want to set it up so that when I'm actually sitting at my desktop/email server I don't have to log in to roundcube, like I don't have to log in to sylpheed, but I don't know enough about PHP to have much success at fixing the broken plugin that's supposed to do that
>>45722126
right, thats another thing, It seems that these days you have to be in quite a restricted IP range to have a proper mailserv
just get a cheap vps/dedi for services you have issues with at home
not too sure about your roundcube issues
mine worked out of the box with the script install I used
>not having a glorious $8 IKEA Lack Rack
>almost 2015
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40104270/#/20011408
>>45716927
yeah a usb drive isnt really made to be read constantly, maybe the best option (depending on how much it is) is to have the website stored in the ram (as in loaded from the harddrive during boot and caches it in the ram)
>>45722186
if I had those tools and time I would build one from scratch out of something that isn't painted Ikea cardboard
>>45722228
>if i had tools and time
that's just the reason why people go to IKEA in the first place you dipshit.
It's for lazy ass neckbeard like you.
any suggestions on small racks?
Do racks like pic related help with noise isolation and heat or do they just add to both?
>>45722186
why not paint the wood black?
>>45722256
because its a utility not a piece of furniture
>>45722244
>implying that glued cardboard can hold anything heavier than your network stack
>>45722244
Actually, even google has experimented with lack racks... They are apparently were cost effective, but ikea stopped making the legs solid wood and now they cant be used in a stacking config anymore and need supports like that guys pic.
What can I do with a homeserver anyways?
>>45722273
>utilities can't look good
This is nothing but an excuse for laziness
>>45722350
host your own website
maybe stream stuff while away from home
private mailserver
the possibilities are endless
>>45722350
Centralize your data, offload certain programs from your main machine, not have to keep your desktop running for 24/7 things, etc.
>>45722350
seed gentoo tarballs
Let's say I want to learn how to setup Windows AD. Would a homeserver with an VMware setup be suitable, or am I just better off using Amazon EC2?
>>45722365
>private mailserver
I don't understand this. How would someone email you? [email protected]:2000 ?
>>45722350
I use mine to automatically torrent anime and serve them over http. I also use it as a VPN when I'm connecting on public WIFI. I also have a weechat client that's constantly running that I can access from anywhere with ssh.
>make a homeserver from an old pc
>don't have any use for it
It took me about 7 hours messing around with different computers I had laying around, too.
>>45722409
You register a domain name and make add an MX record to your registrar's DNS server. When another mail server has mail that's addressed to your domain, it looks for the MX record and finds your IP address.
o7
>>45722308
yes, thats what I was saying
they glue dried human waste and cardboard together and paint it black these days so if you touch it wrong it crumbles into dust
>>45722471
qt
could this work with an ssd?
>>45722641
>sdd connected via usb
>>45722020
A used workstation would be best for you then if power is a huge issue.
However,it should be pointed out that while a lot of /g/ users will say OMG VACUUM AND POWER DRAIN on a lot of systems...they really aren't.
While it may have been true of REALLY old enterprise equipment,most modern day'ish stuff has plenty of power saving features.
I have an IBM x3950M2 with 4xE7330s,64GB of ram,4 10K sas drives,and dual PSUs.
It uses from 350-400W depending on what it is doing. I only have a few VMs on it and it doesn't ever do too much,so keep that in mind.
While running some stress tests it would peak up to the 550W range,but I never noticed anything much higher than that.
That's about the same or possibly less than running a window AC unit. Where I live it factors out to about $15 a month in power.
If power is a big issue,look for L series Xeons,or AMDs similar low power models of Opterons.
Some of them have a 45W TDP.
The Dell SC24 springs to mind,it uses less than 1A most of the time.
>>45722641
Look into the bananapi, I think it has a SATA port
>>45722737
oh fug, that's right, no dedicated SATA
>>45722771
thanks, I noticed that modern enterprise doesn't take too much power as well, I'm just used to looking at old hardware that is power thirsty
is link related overkill?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291228103492?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
seems to offer everything I need, even though its at a 800W powerdraw.
I was also considering a later Poweredge T series or even an R710
Also, is it generally a good idea to avoid 2.5 inch bays if you don't need enterprise SAS? these smaller disks seem more expensive than their 3.5 inch brothers
pic semi related
>>45722365
Idiot here. Would one have to use different machines for NAS/web hosting/mail? Could you just have a few VMs? What about firewalls?
this would be a good place to ask this I guess
I want to turn my older computer into a NAS, its a Z97 board with 8 sata ports. I want at least 10 drives. I'm planning on using freenas.
Do I need a raid card? Or is there something else I can use for more sata ports? Apparently they cant be split
>>45723040
nope, the age of baremetal is over
you can virtualize the hell out of everything and split your services as needed on different OSes (provided your host is not a potato computer)
firewall on VMs can be set to NAT or bridged and configurations are open to be easily adjusted
To be honest though you could pull off mostly everything on one GNU/Linux box assuming you don't have special computing needs
pic completely unrelated
Wanting to make a fileserver that can stream to my tv.
The current idea is to build a NAS, get fire tv, and put xmbc on it.
Is there a better, cheaper solution?
>>45723175
nas > raspberry pi running openelec
use NFS to share to the pi, it's much more efficient
i use my tv remote control to control it, via hdmi-cec
if you're tv is too old for cec, you can use any linux-supported media center IR remote, or an android phone
>>45723206
note: basically any remote that supports "windows media center" will work in linux and xbmc with no additional configuration
>>45723107
>Do I need a raid card?
Do you want to raid the drives?
Yes = Yes
No = No
also
>pic related
>>45723206
I'll check that out. Thought about using a raspberry pi, but wasn't quite sure.
Got it for free from a company that wanted rid of it.
Mostly use it for backups.
>>45723265
most people who claim the pi is too sluggish for this are using an ntfs usb drive, or samba
both of which put a lot of strain on the pi's slow cpu
nfs takes that strain off the pi, so shit runs great
>>45723248
If I'm using freenas doesnt it use software raid? Haven't looked into it yet
>>45723107
>Do I need a raid card?
no, use ZFS
if you need more sata ports, just get a plain pcie sata card
>>45723355
From what I found the pcie sata cards can apparently bottleneck transfer rates.
>>45723026
I bought one of those, then upgraded the ram to 24GB. Couldn't be happier, pretty loud though
>>45721262
I have an old dell optioned 740 with an old amd cpu of some kind (can't remember off the top of my head) and 2 gigs of ram. It streams 1080pp just fine. I use a chrome cast mainly as I went cheaper than cheap, but it doesn't stutter.
If I were you, get an old ish pc, stuff a bunch of drives in it along with a good gigabit adapter, throw Linux, smb or ftp, and plex. That's what I use, and it works
>>45721590
Looks like a Cisco 1921 ISR, not a switch.
>>45723406
probably going to get the supermicro as well. The hotswap bays, included ECC RAM, and CPUs is just too much of a bargain, to hell with the noise and powerdraw
Here look:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vCbLqs
I tried building something myself out of haswell and it doesn't even come close to what the supermicro has for half of the price
sure its newer quieter hardware but its the difference of 350USD versus 900
I'm running NFS and rtorrent on a RaspberryPi plus a External HD. Works pretty well for me.
Is there a good alternative to Dropbox I can run on it? BitTorrent Sync seems to suck, has anyone run Syncthing or OwnCloud?
Muh 2 bay ReadyNAS.
Serves all I need.
>>45723373
they work the same way your onboard sata ports do
>>45723494
If it's only for you just use SFTP. IMO you don't really need a website unless you're going to have a lot of users.
>>45723519
yeah I know but i thought I saw some shit talking about how the pci lane could bottleneck the transfer
>>45723529
Yeah, makes sense. I'll give it a try, thanks.
>>45723543
pcie3.x is 984.6 MB/s per lane
if you need more than that, either use less drives per card and get more cards, or use a card with more lanes
pic, 4x card, or 3938.4 MB/s (in pcie3.x)
>>45723598
FYI OpenSSH, the SSH server included in most if not all Linux distributions, includes an SFTP server that can be enabled in its configuration file, and many Linux file browsers are SFTP compatible, so you may not even need extra software. You can set up key-based access so that you don't need to enter a password to securely access your file server.
>>45723682
Just curious, is there any advantage to using SFTP over SSHFS?
Does a good rack reduce noise and temps?
What is a good rack that is not DC fuckhueg?
>>45723026
If you need tons of local storage,that will work very well.
I'm not a big fan of supermicro cases,mostly because of their small PSUs. They have small fans that have a high pitched sound that is kinda annoying.
And the 800W is the power supplies rated wattage. Since it has two,they are probably redundant supplies,eg one fails the other can keep it running.
My 3950 has two 1.4kW supplies,and as I said it uses nowhere near that kind of power.
As far as the 2.5 vs 3.5,it's just whatever you want to use. 2.5 is used on most racked equipment because you can fit more drives in an area.
Most 2.5" drives will fit in the sleds and work just fine. Remember,you can put SATA drives in SAS slots,but not the other way around.
>>45723724
I've never used it but as I understand it, SSHFS uses SFTP to create a virtual, local filesystem. That might be useful if you want to use a file browser that doesn't support SFTP directly. I don't know what the pros and cons of using it or not using it are, if you don't need to do that.
>>45723730
lackrack
>>45723730
Wtf? Did someone just start tossing racks on top of the other without mounting them, hoping that the rails that were there already would support dozens of computers?
>>45723730
sorta, it's depending if your rack is open or sealed.
>dat pic
ohgodwhy.jpg
>>45721781
wow, thanks for that helpful insight anon.
>its a computer
I was asking whether to buy a prebuilt one, or if not, what software to use and how to configure it.
>>45722255
Why would enclosing it help with the heat?
>>45723724
sshfs is basically sftp mounted to your filesystem
it's still sftp internally, just presented differently
sshfs can be useful for working with remote data in software that doesn't directly support sftp, or if working with your filesystem is more convinient
So can anyone tell me if running a server that serves up to around 5,500,000 visitors annually from a SD card or USB flash drive feasible? I'm on my third HDD in 5 years of uptime.
Will this burn the writes on the SD card or USB flash drive too fast?
The database itself is less than 16GB, I just don't know why it's killing HDDs on an average of just over 2 years.
>>45723853
you funnel the air directly over the parts.
>>45723860
Use an 256 GB SSD.
>>45723860
You either have shit luck or are doing something wrong. I have a MC server with 50-60 people on at any given time, with LogBlock running. I get 6k MySQL hits per second on average, along with everything else, including a website with forums that gets 5k hits a day. Been on the same SSD for the last 4 years. 80GB Intel 320.
>>45723770
Thanks for all the insight. I really appreciate it
yeah, I know that Supermicro doesn't really care that much about noise and power consumption. Dell seems to be better at that with their newer R and T series altho
Is there any way in hell that I can swap the microserver PSUs for something quieter and better at conserving power?
I'm just really attached to that particular listing because I want one machine to keep my large data library (instead of getting a SAN/expander)
>SATA into SAS
thanks, I did not know that. Should have done more research on my standards
>>45723904
Speed isn't actually an issue though I just wanted better reliability.
Would a 60GB SSD do? SD and USB flashdrives are cheap while SSDs are not.
>>45723927
The highest record set was 375 users at one time, but it's usually 30~60 users at a time.
Average for Dec is currently around 10K hits a day.
I really have no idea why the HDDs are failing so much on my server, it's a headless server so basically it just boots up and the only thing connected to it is the power and internet.
I only connect a USB keyboard/mouse, a screen to it when it goes down so it's not really being used as anything but a server.
>>45724089
>Would a 60GB SSD do?
if the data fits it'll work
his point is that ssd's last longer when you're only replacing a relatively small amount of data constantly
aka, writing say, 16GB data per day will last longer on a 256GB drive than a 64GB drive
as for the hdd's, are they cooled properly? ~30-40c is ideal
and do you allow spindown on idle? if so, disable it, it wears out hdd's
>>45724089
>Speed isn't actually an issue though I just wanted better reliability.
SSD's are both.
Bigger drives give longer lifespans and the controller will shit the bed long before the actual memory
>>45724044
>that image
Specs:
Supermicro PDSMU
Xeon X3210 2.4Ghz
4GB DDR2 ECC
2TB HDD (Toshiba)
Used for:
RADIUS AAA (SQL-based), DLNA, NAS, webhost, seedbox, mail server, and H@H.
I don't have any pics, sorry.
>>45724089
SSDs are a lot more reliable than a HDD. If you have a database, consider adding more RAM. Cache hits are everything. I get 40-50 thousand SQL hits a second but over 90% of them are memcached.
>>45722113
>10/100
Shit.
>>45724285
no
10/100/1000 aka gigabit
>>45724245
Cool. What virtualization? How would a layman setup the firewalls for a local NAS and a public webhost on the same physical machine so it's not a security nightmare?
>>45724177
Spin down is disabled, drive is ambient +10~15C averagely so temps are ok.
>>45724280
It's running 4GB DDR3 but it doesn't seem to run over 50~60% most of the time. I'ld need to replace the whole thing if I wanted more ram in it.
>>45724219
Can't really squeeze SSDs into the budget at the moment, I got too many regular drives running 4yr run times that need replacing.
So SD cards and USB flash drives are a no? I got that idea after reading a lot about people running servers off those tiny boards with them.
What's the best virtualization software?
>>45724539
>Can't really squeeze SSDs into the budget at the moment, I got too many regular drives running 4yr run times that need replacing.
The cheapest HDD's are 50$ and so are SSD's man
It's not like you need the space.
it desperately wants to be put in a case... yet it's laying there since months
Hue
>>45724566
>mfw my first custom PC build had no case
>mfw the CPU cooler bracket broke off so I glued it
>mfw this worked for 2 years, even though the P4 smelled like fire
>>45724602
forgot my face
>>45724089
Just invest and use a RAMDISK.
>>45724515
No visualization, it runs CentOS.
I just put it on a DMZ, close all ports except the ones that are needed, and restrict the access to the NAS service to the local subnets.
>>45724539
>drive is ambient +10~15C averagely so temps are ok.
if you look at googles' reports on drive failures, you'll find having drives too cold is just as bad if not worse
when i said 30-40c, i didn't mean "under 40c", but literally not less than 30 or over 40
you need to slow down your fans
>>45724710
There are no fans, besides the PSU everything is passively cooled...
>>45724565
I dunno man, I've heard quite a few disasters going with some cheap branded SSDs.
SSDs feel like HDDs 20 or so years ago when there were a bunch of makers.
>>45724667
How about no, I live in a shit tier third world making average $300USD a month doing fucking translations, I'm not gonna spend money on ramdisks.
>>45724760
>There are no fans, besides the PSU everything is passively cooled...
you must live in a pretty cold place
maybe you can try restricting airflow from the front of the case or put the machine somewhere more enclosed
>>45724760
Crucial MX100
Cheapest non-shit SSD's you can get.
They don't have the top performance but still beat the shit out of everything but the best.
>>45724793
I just ordered one yesterday for my main system, aka the one I work with and make money with.
I can't splurge on another one so soon.
I'll definitely consider it though.
>>45724776
Actually I live in the sub-tropics. It's a nice toasty 24C atm and it averages 30C in the summer.
>>45724861
Just get one if the harddrive in your server dies again
>>45724861
>Actually I live in the sub-tropics. It's a nice toasty 24C atm and it averages 30C in the summer.
how does it run at 10-15c then?
>>45724878
I said ambient + 10~15C as in 10~15C over room temperature.
>>45724704
Huh. I was talking to my sysadmin at work about building a home server and he said one should never put a local NAS on a web facing system. Is he too paranoid?
>>45724903
if that's what you meant then that's fine
>>45724912
You don't want to take the chance that someone on the internet will hack into your server and then report you for possession of CP or piracy.
>>45724912
No, I'd say he's right, but I don't have another system to use for either one. I haven't had any issues so far, though.
Here is mine. It is hidden under a chair and behind a door at my home because I am afraid a family member will unplug it if left in plain sight. I use it to host media at home and access it from my college dorm which has monitored internet.
It is an old Compaq machine, with a single-core Intel Celeron D @ 3.20GHz. The only thing I did was pull out single 512MB stick of RAM and shove in 2x1GB that I had laying around from an old fix (I posted them here at the time asking what to use them for, that was about 2-3 years ago).
Next on the list is a bigger hard drive. It currently has an 80GB drive, but that is enough for now because I don't need to store anything on there long-term.
>>45725085
>turning it off... ever
Got a question. I bought some Rackable servers some time ago, and they work great but they sound like a jet engine. Is there a guide for building like a sound-suppressing box or something? Could I just make one out of wood with foam stapled to the walls and long intake/exhaust tubes?
I'd replace the fans, but there are no cpu/gpu fans as it relies on a wind-tunnel to cool everything and I'd be worried about the cooling ability of quieter fans.
>>45725085
I should also mention it's running basic Ubuntu Server, I just never took off the Windows sticker.
>>45725104
:^)
>get a old sun, run Debian (netra x1 is what I got)
>get 3 or 4 raspberry pis
>get a old/new cisco switch
>control you raspberry pi cluster with your Debian sun machine
This is a pretty good guide for a simple but very decent cluster. I already had a raspberry pi and bought 2 more, my cisco switch was from a recycling center and I bought the netra for 25 bucks, it's dope bro. I don't know what to do with it though...
>>45725114
You don't want to put them in a box of wood with foam stapled to the walls.
It'll overheat in no time even with intake/exhaust, and possibly catch on fire. The school server room I worked at before had two A/Cs @ 20C and the server fans were still going full blast.
>>45725139
How's that old Sun? I was thinking of getting one and popping OpenBSD on it. You have to install through serial, right?
I have my old machine in a spare room in the basement. I'd like to turn this into
1. a fileserver where everyone can have their own private folders. If possible from outside of LAN as well.
2. Automatically download torrents (presumably through a client and RSS feeds).
3. Host Windows VMs on it so I don't need to deal with the work VPN and using the office VMs when I'm working from home.
I've messed around with Ubuntu in the past and used samba/deluge but RSS feeds were a bitch and I couldn't figure out wtf I was doing for VMs either. I kept getting grey screens and stuff.
What would the ideal OS for this be? I also have 3x3TBs + other drives in it but it doesn't necessarily have to be in raid 5 I guess.
>>45725085
You're not from Canada by chance?
>>45725263
Nope, did I do something Canadian or is there someone like me who lives there?
Anyone got any guides to setting up a web server? I want to run my website from my desk (with a separate machine).
>>45725291
XAMPP
UNISERVER
pick your poison
>>45725291
This is a decent guide if you're looking to do it this way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKJ55ebMcOc
>>45725291
Install and configure lighttpd. Put site files (HTML. CSS, whatever else) in site's root directory. Boom, you have a website. Getting it accessible from outside the network is a different ball game.
>>45725172
Yes, I have no idea how to do that but only spent 25 bucks on it. You however need to get a semi-cheap rj45 to serial adapter, if your a Linux wizard it should be decently hard. Its only a 500 MHz machine though.
>>45725333
also, get a sun ultra 5 instead. There MUCH easier to work with.
>>45725333
500Mhz is enough for a simple network monitor and alert mailer.
>>45725359
Can't you do that with some off the shelf hardware that uses a tiny fraction of it's power consumption?
I know some people like tinkering with old hardware, but sometimes the hardware take more power than it's worth.
This is my home server. Used to have tons of old servers from work but I've downsized. I always have the temptation to build up a nice big rack -.-
From top to bottom:
- Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite
- D-Link DGS-1100-08P (L3 + PoE)
- Airport Extreme (Just as a WAP)
- HP Microserver (Sickbeard, Couchpotato, etc.. 10TB of storage)
>>45725390
Shhhh, it's okay. Electricity is cheap as fuck where I live.
>>45725398
Image came out wrong. Attached here.
>>45725280
You just reminded me of a college buddy who I'm fairly certain browses /g/.
>>45725434
Oh alright, yeah I don't have any friends so it's not me.
I hope that his server is running well.
>>45725412
Still, Sun systems are a REAL hassle. I don't even need a cluster I just dick around with this stuff for a hobby, just buy a shitty old hp Pentium 4 with windows xp those are easy to use and are usually free if you give the seller on ebay a message or ask some friends.
Mac OSX >>45725225
What anroid app would you recommend for me to use so I can ssh into my home server?
Also, is that proper grammar? "ssh into the server"
>>45725568
Windows Server 2012R2
>>45725591
JuiceSSH is what I use, not sure if there are any better because I haven't tried them.
That sounds right, not sure if I would even need to say it in a formal setting anyway.
>>45725591
JuiceSSH, without a doubt.
>>45725600
I appreciate the response, thanks.
>>45725568
I tried installing OSX on this PC a few years back and it wasn't compatible at all. What advantages do I have with OSX over other OS's?
>>45725628
You need OSX86
It just werks
>>45725628
>Easy to use
>built upon unix
>time machine
>Apple also produces a server variant of mac osx which I have heard is very, very good
>stable
>fast
>has good and secure security wiping and encryption
>boot camp for multiple windows vms.
>>45725424
Is dat sum Ubiquiti?
>>45725707
Yep, see >>45725398
>>45725703
>bootcamp
>for VMs
Anon you what
>>45725726
he's either confused as to what bootcamp is, or what VM's are
>>45725653
tonymac
Anyone else here using InfiniBand for their homelab?
Just moved to it and I can't believe the speeds I am getting using IPoIB.root@C6100-1-N4:~# iperf -c 172.16.10.2
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 172.16.10.2, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 648 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3] local 172.16.10.1 port 37831 connected with 172.16.10.2 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 14.1 GBytes 12.2 Gbits/sec
>>45725359
>network monitor
Anyone Nagios here?
What can you do with a home server? Could an old computer you have lying around suffice?
>>45725752
>>45725653
Was there supposed to be another way to do it? That's where I got all my info from. I've created 2 hackintoshes for people with their help. It just doesnt "werk" with my motherboard.
>>45725811
Do you have a need for something? File storage, email server, local webserver?
>>45725811
yes, see
>>45725085
>>45723300
>>45721149
You can host files, a website, etc
>>45725737
>>45725726
I think he's confused. I wanted a hyper-v/xencenter style solution.
Im thinking of getting some used poweredges off ebay, are there any good ways to quiet them down?
>>45725850
Don't buy PowerEdges, they're loud as fuck, draw immense amounts of power, and their BIOS is backdoor'd by the NSA.
>>45725832
I could use somewhere to keep my massive porn collection, what should I look into?
>>45725901
Your basement, probably. Don't have any old ones? Check friends and relatives for an old one. It just has to work and viruses don't matter because you're just formatting it anyway.
>>45725901
If you want a no hassle solution - get a NAS. Synology are good, but there are other options.
If you want to learn and build it yourself, could use FreeNAS or some other OS to build a file server.
>>45725873
so hp? supermicro?
>>45725950
Just build your own. Buy a cheap 4U Rosewill case and you can make your own servers. That's what I do.
>>45725934
I have this compaq that i never use, seems cheaper than buying a NAS
>>45725984
Well yeah - make sure it's got SATA, get a SATA card if you need to. Chuck FreeNAS on it and away you go!
>>45725114
What you are thinking of are baffles,and yes,unlike the other person who replied,you can build something like that.
Pretty much make a long rectangular box that will fit it pretty well and make sure to leave some space in front of and behind it.
Then use foam blocks or even wood to extend about 60% of the way across,then move forward a bit and put another block on the opposing side about the same 60% of the way across. Make sure whatever you use that it is SECURELY connected.
It shouldn't impede airflow,but it will make a marked difference in the amount of sound you hear.
>>45725163
You do realize that rackmount enclosures are pretty much exactly what this guy is asking for?
He's not planning on cutting off airflow,just directing it.
>>45726049
Rackmount enclosures aren't made of wood, they also don't have foam stapled to them and long intake/exhausts
They are made of metal for heat dissipation with large powerful intake/exhaust fans that scream like jet engines in an effort to remove the heat ASAP
>>45724704
whats this from?
its relevant to all 3 of my interest
>>45725775
would like to.
is it available for free somewhere?
i'd like to play around with/learn it at home...currently use Solarwinds at work
>>45725764
I wish. How much did it cost?
Also, do you have any latency figures?
Eh, I've got some generic old boxes with a P4 and a Celeron D that I slapped OpenBSD on and got some services running.
I used them for all sorts of things, but they're power hogs so I tend to keep them off these days. I fire them up when I want to run some LAN experiments, though.
I've only got one old server that's currently out of commission from a dead hard drive controller, but here's my networking homelab so far
>>45726476
What do you use this for? It just seems so excessive, no offense intended.
>>45726476
Why's it outside?
>>45726504
you obviously have no idea what they are capable of or what you can learn from the most basic of equipment.
>>45726504
Studying for CCNP and CCNA security right now, along with college classes
>>45726509
That's where I was doing the drilling to mount the bottom devices
Plus natural light looks nice
>>45726529
Obviously we know what they are and what the are capable of. The question is wtf do you need them for?
>>45726529
That's why I asked...
>>45726556
This is why we need tripcodes/why you need to look at tripcodes
>>45722737
What are 0ms seek times for 500 Alex?
>>45726509
>not putting his rack outside
>>45722350
I store all the pictures I take, all my music, all my movies and TV shows, several programs, and random backups of stuff.
I can access all this from my laptop, desktops, and tablets.
And since it's running WHS 2011 it backs up my desktops and laptop every night.
All this and it uses about a quarter to half the power of my main desktop.
>>45725316
Looking at this now since I'm on my desktop. Thanks.
>>45726279
Nagios (core) is FOSS. It's only the shitty "enterprise" things that they try to sell. You can install it from most Linux repositories.
>>45726386
>P4
Couldn't you find something else that doesn't produce so much heat?
Home servers double as electric heater?
HP masterrace reporting in
>>45727507
You have the G8, not the n-series?
>>45727513
yeah got it cheap
file server:
dell optiplex 330
core2 duo 1.8ghz
2gb ram
80gb boot drive
2x 2tb wd reds in raid 1
debian stable / nfs
>>45716134
whats the g3/8600 do?
>>45719062
its not a monitor, its a terminal
>>45727437
Only the Prescotts were hot tbh willamette, northwood before, and the Cedar Mill after were decent.
>>45727853
My Pentium 4 HT Northwood blows out the fucking heat like nothing I've ever dealt with.
>>45723107
>Do I need a raid card?
no. use mdadm
