I have a plan to end the OUTSOURCING OF ENGINEERING JOBS
Whoever wants to join just enlist in this thread and stick to the plan
Up until now the banter against Indians has been along the lines of "they turk our jerbs" without much detail on how. Many indians are unironically happy about this, and for some reason some even believe that they take jobs because they are better than western engineers.
We need to find out why it is that they are so oblivious since one of the key aspects of war is to know your enemy. I have a theory: Their """"consultancy companies"""" feed them that bullshit to keep them enslaved doing 15h a day of grunt work AND motivated, since if they weren't in denial they would be unmotivated and things would go a lot worse.
Well, we will focus our strategy on countering that. We will MAKE IT WELL KNOWN that indians in outsourcing are just cheap grunts doing menial meaningless labor that will be automatized soon. We are mad that they take those jobs because if they were in America or Europe they would be 8h a day for a decent wage, and many white people could actually use a job like that. Not to mention when some companies lay off a western engineer and hope that 20 indians working 15h a day will do the trick.
If Indians realize their dignity is being insulted, outsourcing will end and everyone will win. Easy as that. The problem is that now they are oblivious as fuck, we need a heavy campaign of calling them cheap grunts and subhumans. I already started on leddit since they are ""tolerant"" as fuck and encourage indians all the time, check this out: reddit.com/user/lyingtruth379
StackOverflow activity would be cool too but moderation there is a bit harsher.
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>>52067201
How about actually learning useful things so you aren't a replaceable code monkey? I doubt they teach cutting edge machine learning or databases at the University of Poo in the Loo.
>>52067201
>Many indians are unironically happy about this, and for some reason some even believe that they take jobs because they are better than western engineers.
Bullshit. People are taking jobs that they can take. Are you really going to blame people for applying and accepting a job offer? The reason why they select it because the pay is higher than in other places, and because it's something they think they can do.
> they would be 8h a day for a decent wage, and many white people could actually use a job like that
And may Indians would want a job with less perks; they'd be happy to settle for it. The evidence is that they actually do settle for it. What's your point?
>If Indians realize their dignity is being insulted, outsourcing will end and everyone will win.
What gives you this idea? "Tell people their job is worthless, that will make them stop doing their job." isn't a solution to anything. And it's not going to win over someone getting paid comparatively well to other jobs in India for the same effort but worse wages.
Make better paid jobs in India or whatever else you outsource to. That way people will select that job instead. The only thing this doesn't deal with is the Indians who have this sort of job as a passion. Those ones are probably better programmers though.
>>52067332
no matter how much i learn, there will always be fellow countrymen that could use a job that is ruined by indians
also, not everyone can get that kind of jobs right out of college, you know that
>>52067367
If you're a failure then you deserve to be replaced by them.
>>52067332
There are computer science courses there just as there are in other parts of the world. India doesn't have the worst CS courses in the world; it's pretty high on the list of developing nations.
But why learn things like that if you can get paid less (but enough) and with less effort? There's no motivation to learn these things.
If they are going to get replaced, let them. There's no need to tell people about it.
>>52067201
You want to stop people from being paid to do jobs that will be replaced by machines (maybe) in the near future. If this is the case, what's the problem with it? You want people in your own country to be paid more and then replaced?
What business would accept such an idea? It's not economical. Let the people who want to do jobs do them; if anything, you should be arguing for better pay.
>>52067400
this isnt about me you fuck, and i havent been replaced so far if that matters
>>52067365
i have to admit that there's nothing wrong with people taking outsourcing jobs if they need them to live.
but look at the pic in the op, or the many indian "coding rockstars", its a fact that they would perform worse if they knew their job is worthless
>>52067367
> there will always be fellow countrymen that could use a job that is ruined by indians
Why are your fellow countrymen better than Indians? Why should they have the job and the Indians not?
The Indians usually do it for cheaper. If you're not okay with that, help enact laws that make sure outsourced labourers get paid the same amount as the citizens in the country for the same job.
This means that companies will no longer outsource, as it is no longer economical.
>>52067201
You're an idiot. The only way outsourcing of engineering jobs will end is:
>If software development becomes a regulated profession that requires something like a P.Eng
>If politicians impose a minimum salary for H1B workers that can be audited
That Cruz fag said $100k min salary for H1Bs. It'll never work but its the right idea. Its too easy for companies to skirt the current requirements of proving that there are no citizens qualified for the job because things like technical interviews are designed to weed people out based on the tiniest thing instantly, so the next step is setting up minimum pay that is equivalent to what locals get. Using the H1B to get cheaper labor is abusing the system, its supposed to be use to solve shortages
But companies aren't interested in that -- the idea that there are no qualified candidates is a fucking lie if big companies that do a ton of outsourcing are notorious for only accepting a miniscule fraction of people that apply for their jobs.
Students pay $100k for a degree, and then apply to companies that only accept like 1 in 1000 candidates for a position. Then those companies turn around and say there aren't enough college grads, more diversity, more affirmative action, more CS programs, more H1B... all so they can get labor for cheaper.
>>52067367
>fellow countrymen
>unironically caring about strangers just because they happen to live within the same imaginary map lines as you
Ironically enough, it was taking the opposite attitude of this which made America strong in the first place. I got my own job lined up, so I really don't care about the pooinloo """""engineers""""" taking yours.
>>52067427
> its a fact that they would perform worse if they knew their job is worthless
So your idea is to make people perform worse, so that those people are let go by the company?
This doesn't seem like a good idea, and I doubt it would work in any large scale. Alternatively, try and get CS education in India to improve.
>>52067419
indian universities are a joke except for IIT which is like their MIT, and believe me, those aren't gonna work on making our shit for 1$ an hour
also, machines mean technological advancement, better quality often, and create new jobs. indians however are a lose-lose
>>52067451
because they are the ones buying the products that create those jobs
>>52067463
Auditing would be a great solution.
Companies would be freaking out since a lot of this crap would be thrown into the light, since absolutely no one pays outsourced indians what they say they pay them.
>>52067468
you dont know how much you would earn if indians werent there. maybe 50k more
>>52067201
I’m sorry but if you're in danger of being replaced by an Indian - you're worthless already,
>>52067499
nah. so outsourcing companies as a whole perform worse, because employees realize they dont have to do anything more than the minimum for them. i wish no evil for the poor employees desu.
>>52067578
xd you have no idea what you are talking about
>>52067201
Want to stop these companies from outsourcing?
Find people who have been fired and outsourced and bring their story into the light. It worked when disney was outsourcing people, and ended up having the cancel their latest branch when the media took hold of it.
Go to the media, social media, 4chan, reddit, whatever, and tell absolutely everyone what these companies are doing.
>>52067643
batch*
>>52067201
I don't care because I actually learned a useful skill in the tech world.
Go get trained in databases and you'll be set for jobs.
>>52067634
I seen their work first hand, they are useless. So I repeat, if you are in danger of loosing your job to them that means you provide no value already. Every project I've seen that tried "indian savings", always reverted back to using local people after they failed.
Just show this vid to Donald Trump
https://youtu.be/4eSfNu-bBWk
>>52067564
I'll be earning enough for a comfy middle class life. Beyond that, money means nothing to me.
>>52067463
If students pay $100k for a degree but never get a job, maybe the students should just stop getting $100k degrees and find other ways to make themselves competitive. Why would a company choose an expensive white hipster webdev over Sareesh just to appease your racist delusions?
>>52067728
>Why would a company choose an expensive white hipster webdev over Sareesh just to appease your racist delusions?
Well, the ones that care about their product, ie the vast majority, do. Deal with it Sareesh
>>52067714
kek
>>52067201
You are mad at people who despite not having electricity, infrastructure, clean water, proper educational institutes, income inequality, social castes and backward culture, manged to study hard and work hard enough to be accepted in an overseas company.
Against those odds many south asian men are defeated and now with visa restrictions, they have to step over each other just to get a job.
You are literally upset at disadvantaged people who persevere instead of making excuses.
>>52067728
>racist
I never said anything about the race of the student. Given that there are already tons of Indians and Asians in CS programs, often MORE than Whites this has nothing to do with race in the way you think it does
>If students pay $100k for a degree but never get a job, maybe the students should just stop getting $100k degrees and find other ways to make themselves competitive
I never said they don't get any jobs, just that a lot of companies that outsource don't hire them even though there are tons of them out there and do anything they can to get cheaper labor
Also this is OT, but if you pay $100k for a technical education its expected you're given the skills and knowledge to find a job in your field. If you can't get a job at all, I think its a failing on the part of the university or college. But they are degree mills and they don't really give a shit so there's that too
ITT: losers getting replaced by curries
Outsourcing is one of the few concepts of capitalism done right in this country, suck it up. For being a board filled with retarded Libertarians, you faggots sure dislike economic freedom.
If you can't compete with curries, improve and innovate instead of trying to stagnate the entire economy because you're too big of a loser.
Also I do not give a flying fuck about my "fellow countrymen", all those niggers and tumblrina's and shit. It's the only reason I am against any kind of welfare, I don't want to support criminals and white fat hamplanets with their cunt studies degrees.
>>52068081
He's mad because they are persevering by taking advantage of our country.
>inb4 im a libertarian and free market
>>52068423
>Outsourcing is one of the few concepts of capitalism done right in this country
How? Please tell me how, I'll wait.
oh wait
>i don't support welfare
You have no clue what you're talking about. Outsourced workers are used to get more people onto welfare, you dumb fuck.
>>52067728
>just stop getting $100k degrees
Pretty much this. People aren't realizing that they're driving up the price of degrees, because now every retard wants to have one. Even if most people try to acquire a degree in a useless field, the university adjusts the prices for the other fields as well. Those Occupy Wall Street losers with their shit degrees are what making things harder for people who want an actually useful one.
>>52068081
Fair point to be honest. But outsourcing isn't true success at all, it's only better than starving, since it's an insult to the employee's dignity.
I mean imagine if things turned around and India was rich and the western world as a whole fell, which will eventually happen obviously. Would you be happy with a job doing menial shit anyone can do because you are cheaper than an Indian? Would you feel in any way proud of a job working for an Indian company and denying an Indian of a decently paid job through the ""great virtue"" of being shittier and settling for less?
Or in another words:
>>52068453
>>52068477
>failing to read
I just said that I don't support welfare, you piece of shit. Thanks for giving me another good reason.
>How? Please tell me how, I'll wait.
MORE MONEY FOR SHAREHOLDERS, BECAUSE CHEAPER PRODUCTION OF GOODS AND SERVICES. I own stocks in companies and I want them to maximize their profits, no matter what. I don't care if they have to replace you with Ranjid or kill your entire family.
It really isn't that difficult to wrap your fucking head around it.
>>52067201
Pro tip
Don't go to college to get a degree for a job that can be easily outsource
/thread
>>52068521
You're the one that is failing to read, Schlomoberg.
So basically your only argument is that you're a literal fucking Jew? Good job, my man. See you on the day of the rope.
>>52067468
If more Americans get paid more and have more jobs, we have less unemployment. This leads to higher happiness, less crime, better public health, better schools, more innovation...
You're telling me you don't care about any of this?
>>52068487
what the fuck do you want? everyone taking a STEM degree?
>>52068547
>being a capitalist == being a jew
I have bad news for you, you dirty useless commie. Typical communist cunt wanting everybody else to adjust their attitudes and give up their potential profits to pamper to their needs.
The easy way is to stop outsourcing is to hang any ceo that does it.
>>52068521
>MORE MONEY FOR SHAREHOLDERS, BECAUSE CHEAPER PRODUCTION OF GOODS AND SERVICES. I own stocks in companies and I want them to maximize their profits, no matter what. I don't care if they have to replace you with Ranjid
Try replacing american engineers with Ranjid you asshole and see where your stock values go :)
>>52068561
Trade school. Instead of getting a degree in Liberal Farts, Vagina Studies, Negro Pampering, etc. people could actually do something useful and become plumbers, chefs, mechanics.
>>52068588
Lol, you're a joke.
>>52068607
Fair point.
Tfw I'm a Computer Science major and my spoiled sister is doing Fine Arts
>>52068606
Up. American engineers aren't even the majority of stock holders, the entire world has money in US stocks (and bonds). If you think Americans becoming homeless is going to displease foreign investors, you'll have a startling awaking once you're out in the real world.
>>52068611
>ad hominem
Thanks for proving my point.
>>52068588
No one will make you give up anything to pamper to their needs if you don't agree to.
However, if they can force you, what's wrong with them doing it? It's the fucking same thing you live by
>>52068588
>being a capitalist == being a jew
Yes, yes it does you dumb kike.
Guess who said it :^)
>We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions
>>52068636
>Up. American engineers aren't even the majority of stock holders, the entire world has money in US stocks (and bonds). If you think Americans becoming homeless is going to displease foreign investors, you'll have a startling awaking once you're out in the real world.
I'm not even talking about that, but about the mentality that all engineers are the same. Then your product goes to shit for reasons you don't understand.
>>52068521
> I own stocks in companies and I want them to maximize their profits, no matter what. I don't care if they have to replace you with Ranjid or kill your entire family.
Pretty much this. I don't own stocks but I run my own business and people give me shit for not hiring overrated and overpaid American engineers. I don't run my business to help make rich losers who can't compete with some dude living 7 time zones away in a slum.
>>52068611
Call him what he really is.
>The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
>>52068694
where's this quote from?
>>52068686
how long have you been outsourcing and do you believe it will end well?
>>52068521
>kill your entire family
So like how Hitler killed yours? Hopefully it'll happen again in my lifetime, kike.
>>52068655
>>52068694
>literally Hitler
This is what America has become and I'm supposed to just like welfare and social programs to support cretins like this. Good night American exceptionalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism
>>52068731
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/angrif03.htm
>>52068744
>oy vey g
>>52068744
>oy vey goyim how dare you say Hitler wasn't a bad man, how dare you!!!
You've been identified, kike. Now get the fuck out and go back to reddit.
>>52068731
>how long have you been outsourcing and do you believe it will end well?
Almost 7 years now. My business isn't completely outsourced. The ratio is 1/3 US based employees and rest are outsourced to India or freelancers form where ever.
I'm an engineer myself overseeing the outsourcing, which is probably one major contributor to our success.
>>52068778
what do you have in india? like testing and customer service?
>>52068744
>This is what America has become
This is what America has always been. Keeping niggers as slaves until we literally had to stop it with a war. Taking the rights from niggers for 100 years after that. Being the last hope for Nationalism after the fall of Hitler. You are living in the wrong country my friend, and you better leave before you're head is on the chopping block. Because we're getting sick of you, kike.
>>52068795
Customer service is done in the US. We have employees go out to clients, it has to be done in the US. Testing, engineering (most of it), virtual assistants, administrative tasks and some more minor stuff is in India. We also have a graphic designer located in Lebanon.
>>52068820
Where do you do your printing?
The rich don't understand how tenuous their position in society is, should enough of us get unhappy we will kill them.
No one is entitled to anything, create a sytem which damages enough people and they will dmage you.
>find channel
>am against outsourcing
>hitler propaganda against people who support outsourcing and capitalism
welp guess I am supporting outsourcing too now
>>52068820
Interesting. How has your experience been so far(with outsourcing)?
>>52068860
Jew pls.
>>52068860
You're not fooling anyone.
>>52068820
>engineering (most of it)
wow
good luck
>>52068847
We don't do much printing. There's a Canadian company that served us well, though.
>>52068863
Going strong for almost 7 years and only ever been in the red for 2 months, but that's because we acquired a small office floor on short notice during that time.
>>52068819
>Marxism
Literally the opposite of capitalism. So what is it, capitalism is Jewish and Communism/Marxism is Jewish too?
Well, guess Jews really own and control everything. Might as well support the system that doesn't force me subsidizing other people's crappy lives and decisions.
>>52068512
Western society has forgotten hardship and the concept of living within your means. Your people deliberately incur credit card debt and whatnot with such painful interest rates. They just cannot fathom living on the same income level and lifestyle as south asians. that is part of the reason people hire 3rd world workers as they will work without any extra benefits and lower wages.
its pure economics and free market in effect, the very thing capitalism dictates. white people are a victim of the very system they created, eventually economies of scale and costs will lead everyone to outsourcing.
>>52068931
You just don't understand. An ideal society is a Nationalist society. Whites helping whites and community. A millennial living in a "post-muh nigger" times wouldn't understand what it's like.
>>52068932
there's no dignity in being literally inferior though
>>52068932
>its pure economics and free market in effect, the very thing capitalism dictates.
Finally someone gets it.
>>52068952
Why would I give a shit about other whites? For instance, I don't give a fucking shit about you. If a nigger can make me more money than you, I'll prefer that nigger over you any day every day.
If you were in fact superior to curries and niglets, you'd leave them in the dust in a purely free market capitalist system. Since you obviously can't, you're literally worse than niggers, kikes, curries, sandniggers, chinks.
>>52068974
feeding yourself and your family is more important than dignity for poor people. their culture glorifies those who made it in the west and also helps them with their marriage prospects. so it may seem degrading to an observer, but to them, its an upgrade from where they come from.
life isn't fair.
>>52068932
Actually it was the Jews who started the birth of capitalism while whites were using Feudalism. Jews have always been known for putting people in debt.
From the Magna Carta
>If a man dies owing money to Jews, his wife may have her dower and pay nothing towards the debt from it. If he leaves children that are under age, their needs may also be provided for on a scale appropriate to the size of his holding of lands. The debt is to be paid out of the residue, reserving the service due to his feudal lords. Debts owed to persons other than Jews are to be dealt with similarly.
ITT: neckbeard version of tumblrinas complaining because the economy doesn't pamper to their needs
Rarely does one see this kind of display of smug white superiority coupled with the pathetic fear of getting replaced by brown people.
Top fucking kek, mates.
>>52069024
>Why would I give a shit about other whites
I'm guessing millennial have no sense of pride in there heritage or country, what a shame.
>>52069055
Hello Punjabi. I'm surprised they let you off during the weekend. Don't you have some Jewish corporate dick to suck?
>>52069024
>Why would I give a shit about other whites
Because eventually when you step on them enough they'll bite you. Ever wonder why Hitler got into power?
>>52069045
>Jews have always been known for putting people in debt
Because in the other 2 major religions in and around Europe, lending money for interest (fundamentals of banking) is a sin. Their "predisposition" to money lending comes from the fact that they pretty much had a monopoly on it, because other religions were dumb enough to forbid it.
>>52069108
You mean smart enough you parasite.
>>52069108
Okay, but I don't understand how that disproved anything I said?
>>52067201
moron
>>52069108
Not surprised a religion that says it's okay to kill non-gentiles is also okay with killing people financially.
>>52069108
Interest is literally asking money to appear out of thin air. The world owes more interest than there is money in circulation. Why do you think that is?
Because interest based finance and banking is inherently a disease for society.
>>52069163
>Interest is literally asking money to appear out of thin air.
Interest, in the classical sense, is the fee it costs for you to have hard cash on hand at that very point in time. Why would anybody lend anybody else their own money, which loses value due to inflation, for free?
>interest based finance and banking is inherently a disease for society.
Except we live in the best times the world has ever seen. If you can't cut it out there, it's on you.
>>52069157
Think you'd get along with all the Hitler supporters in this thread.
>fucking $boogeyman, we should totally kill them all.
top lmao
>>52069191
>Except we live in the best times the world has ever seen. If you can't cut it out there, it's on you.
yup
>mfw take $100,000
>mfw declare bankruptcy shortly after
>mfw do the same thing again in 5 years
life is sweet
>>52069233
take $100,000 loan*
>>52069219
>killing people who are taking advantage of you is bad goy!!!!
Once again, you're not fooling anyone.
>>52069233
I got nothing against that. To me, that's capitalism at work. If you can rig the market, the market either adopts or doesn't and you continue with your scheme.
I have a friend who used his mother's life insurance to pretend he's going to buy a house from a mutual buddy. He managed to scam over 300K from a bank, gave the mutual friend 20K and escaped to South East Asia.
>>52069268
check out >>52069157
Top kek, full circle. You guys are retarded :^)
What exactly are you trying to prove?
>>52069287
This is getting way too derailed. The whole point was to fuck with poo2loos originally.
>>52069315
Poo in loo is a symptom of a broken system run by the rich. Who needs to be held accountable is politicians and ceos.
>>52069219
What? I'm Jewish, you fucking retard.
>>52069343
not outsourcing anything and not allowing anyone in would solve the problem entirely. they are free to poo in designated shitting streets all they want
This thread is funny, if you've got the skills then a transplant worker should not be on your radar. A guaranteed minimum wage is also a bad idea because it would shut out a lot of the creative jobs that don't necessarily make as much money as tech jobs.
>>52069055
kek this pretty much
it's hilarious to watch how furious neckbeards get
What faggot Americans fail to understand is that the Indians ARE better than them (in general) at engineering jobs. They also (in general) don't expect as high a living standard so they don't aim for as high an income.
The problem is that the cost of being a middle class American is going up and up, but pay isn't. Stupid whites ask for salaries that would put them in the middle class but Indians don't, so the Indians get hired.
They're better than the Americans and they ask for less, it's win-win for companies.
>>52069411
And yet you're a neet yourself. How cute.
>>52069427
>implying I want to be code monkey
kek
>>52069425
>They're better than the Americans and they ask for less, it's win-win for companies.
Hello Rajeesh, look at you, only 5 grammatical errors in your entire post! Way to go, buddy.
The reason corporations like outsourcing so much is simple - "costs".
It is how much money you want to pay for doing something. What you anti-outsourcing cunts dont realise is that not all jobs require super high quality and so price premium. There are lot of costs operations mostly that are required to be just good enough and not more.
Some wall st jew punk bank dont need top quality software. They just need something that works because at end of year IT is just cost line item for them. You know since they dont make money from IT but from being a bank/jew.
Now the question is what are you as provider of IT services willing to charge for that work to bank. Typical american answer is cushy job, benefits, lawsuits...you know because you are born in america and so entitled to all the crap and it would be slavery if you settled for anything less.
The simple solution to end outsourcing as some other anons have mentioned is to compete with them. If you cant do job x without your all entitlement or because you spent on $100 k on some piece of paper you are not good enough for job. The companies dont care for your $100k piece of top quality engg paper specially since they can get same job done for a lower cost.
You can continue with your wishful thinking that somehow magically you would get paid more if all the curries are shipped back to s*** hole they came from. But thats not likely to happen because market only supports lowest common denominator for costs and it is going to take it either on us soil here or from curries s*** holistan.
tl;dr stop your entitled thinking that you should be paid so and so because you are esteemed holder of some $100k paper and born in burgerland. You should only paid as much market allows and if thats your case then compete with curries on costs and see the turn around.
/rant
>>52069425
yeah man, india is best, when it comes to culture, technology, everything, india is best
im sorry that we westerners take your jobs by degrading ourselves like worms, we have no creativity so theres not much else we can do for a living
>>52069440
And two in yours.
>>52069440
you sure proved him wrong
>>52067201
>indians
>dignity
You make me laugh.
>>52069425
>What faggot Americans fail to understand is that the Indians ARE better than them (in general) at engineering jobs. They also (in general) don't expect as high a living standard so they don't aim for as high an income.
Did your slave owner tell you this? Because this right here is the very reason I made this thread.
I work management for a graphic design department, so I don't how it is with tech companies, but from what I've learned, you never outsource if you want quality or timeliness.
Outsourcing is just a phase that people fresh out of a business major thinks is a great way to save money. Then they quickly learn it's a horrible decision, when your outsource team is 3 months late on the project. Plus if you're ordering anything from overseas it will literally take months to get to the US, and by the time you get it it's already useless plus being pretty shitty quality wise.
Tech might be different, but where I work you never outsource and you never order from overseas.
>>52069425
This is an example of the delusion OP talks about.
This guy has the full set in fact, congratulations Infosys.
You are by definition NOT better than an engineer from a western country. You got a worse education and lack a proper environment to develop your skills.
You don't have a competitive advantage because the cost of american middle class is going up, you earn ridiculously less than any american because you don't even live by human standards.
Sorry to break this to you m8.
>>52069474
they are people you know
>>52069425
>Stupid whites ask for salaries that would put them in the middle class but Indians don't
Yes, but that's because Indians live in mud shacks and can't even afford toilets. You live just as bad as negroes, and there by almost every definition monkeys. So what does that make you?
Poo in the fucking loo
>>52069589
>people
No they're not, they're apes.
Does a monkey know what dignity is?
>>52069596
that's the fun part, he thinks he earns marginally less than americans but he gets the job because americans are too greedy and he's also more skilled, so now he sucks jew dick enthusiastically and proudly
>>52069612
honestly m8 the joke is fun and all but i think its a fact that indians are actually people
I seriously doubt they care about your first world problems. If you want to change things, stop playing the victim and change them.
>>52069638
>and change them.
or kick them out??
The reason companies give for outsourcing isnt that there aint enough americans for the job.
But that there aint enough americans at the cost of poo in the loo for that job.
Who here is willing to pay $1000 for something thats available for $100.
Oh right you welfare cunts because world is better place due to your generosity.
But guess who isnt, any sane person running a business.
>>52069632
Joke's on you, I'm not even Indian.
I'm white mate. Americans are just deluded.
>>52069664
slav detected
>>52069661
"I want products made in America but for the same price as the ones made in China."
What do you expect from these retards? They can't wrap their heads around supply and demand, terms like "production costs" is fucking voodoo to them.
>>52069661
The field is so lucrative that paying engineers 100k$ a month is not a problem.
The problem are the stubborn 60 year old management rednecks that have just that mentality: "Who here is willing to pay $1000 for something thats available for $100."
I will take you out of your delusion in just one sentence: If you pay $100 instead of $1000 you aren't going to get the same thing, not even close.
>>52069661
>The reason companies give for outsourcing
No, the reason is that the American government allows them to. It's a lot harder to outsource in European countries, and they do just fine.
>>52069759
Actually it's usually the younger people who start outsourcing. Usually because they haven't spent a lot of time in business.
>>52069685
>call him another nationality, thatll make him wrong!
>>52069756
I find it's funny that I can tell you've never made a business decision in your life, but think you're smarter than everybody here since you're a sophomore in Business school.
>>52069760
Europe is a special case. The EU is practically autarch in quite a few industries. They have cheap labor within their union, they don't have to outsource.
>>52069801
Actually, I am >>52068686
But okay buddy.
>>52069809
>They have cheap labor within their union, they don't have to outsource.
sad but true
they had to fucking put eastern europe in it. and wait until turkey joins
>>52068423
>Outsourcing is one of the few concepts of capitalism done right in this country
Except it's not done right in any country.
Creating shitty bits and pieces of a product around the world, and expecting them to fit when you get them, is pretty much delusional.
>>52069884
>Creating shitty bits and pieces of a product around the world, and expecting them to fit when you get them, is pretty much delusional.
honestly man i would wipe out third worlders but thats just dumb
>>52069827
So you runny a privately owned business that probably makes less than 1million in revenue a year. Who gives a fuck about your kiddie operation?
I work for one of the biggest military contractors in the world. No one gives a fuck what a nobody, like yourself, has to say about the industry.
>runny
run*
>>52069801
I can't speak for business people, but I've seen plenty of "I want Made in America" customers and as soon as I hand them the product and walk away they set it back down and buy the cheapest Chinese stuff we have. The world is unbalanced right now. Eventually quality of life in India will rise and they will demand better wages. We're seeing it already in China with a new middle class which never existed. It's pointless being upset at some Indian half way across the globe because the poor fuck wants to feed his family. If you're upset at outsourcing you place the blame on the companies outsourcing. It's as simple as that.
>>52069937
>blame on the companies outsourcing
This is what I usually do.
The Indians just do their thing in order to get paid, who can blame them?
g truly showing their autism
>>52067201
Or you could just vote trump.
>>52069759
Not all jobs need $1000 quality. In fact most are prefectly happy with just good enough specially when IT is secondary to their core business.
If americans can offer same quality (note i didnt say better) at lower cost than body shops, we wont be having this arguement.
Its meeting demand with supply. If you want to be paid more and quality is your leverage then you should do something that requires quality not mundane coding or batch monitoring for excel report that some bean counter looks at for few seconds.
This is where outsourcing is not in creative or critical thinking space where algorithms designs are changing understaning of our universe. But then again market for that isnt big enough to support every tom dick harry coming out of cs school and latest node.js hack on resume.
>>52069827
>>52069910
>i run a business guys I RUN A BUSINESS LOOK AT MEEEE
Wow bro you run a business???? Woah you're so special man, I can drive 500 feet from my house and i just passed 10 other people who also have their own fucking business, you fucking goon. No one fucking cares and you're not fucking special. No one but Mexicans and poo in the loos wants to be hired by you and your joke of an operation which will go bankrupt if they even dared offer a position with a 40k starting salary.
Shameless bump.
>>52069910
>I work for
Opinion discarded.
>>52070063
>If americans can offer same quality (note i didnt say better) at lower cost than body shops, we wont be having this arguement.
Don't even need to do that, really. Multinational corporations are one thing, but for the most part, dealing with someone locally, someone who is in the same jurisdiction and who has the same(or at least, very similar) cultural background... those are all pretty big conveniences, not to mention that they mean lower overall expenses as well. If all Indians could offer were the same prices, they wouldn't even be worth considering.
>>52069910
The claim was that I never made a business decision, which I obviously has.
Chan format isn't really difficult to follow, if you can't grasp which posts are meant for which then you're one of those people that need to lose their jobs to curries.
Also, don't give a shit about your opinion on my business, kek. Peasant labourers.
>>52070103
Salt so real it sucked away the humidity in my green house.
>>52070165
have*
inb4 hurr spelling mistake durrr
>>52070165
Sorry man, in an actual company we have problems, and they're fucking big problems. Stuff that you can't solve by throwing a bunch of sub100 IQ curryniggers at, unfortunately. I'm so sorry that your business is such a joke where companies that literally sell free software make more money than you.
>>52070197
>>52070165
How does it feel that your entire yearly revenue is less than the average salary of a software engineer that works at a company that GIVES AWAY FREE software
You know who starts businesses? People who can't be hired by actual companies.
>>52070197
Those 80K a year is a bit of a joke to begin with, I earn almost 9 times as much. Thats me alone, the owner of the business. You know how? I don't pay retards like you overpriced wages.
>real problems
If I could make money selling literal shit, I'd do that. It's capitalism baby, whatever the market needs. I don't give a shit if you cure cancer or drill to the center of the earth lel.
People so dumb, it makes me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>52070229
Then this inbred waddles along
>working for someone else
>giving up hours of your life to make someone else's dream come true
again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>52070295
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
The literal fucking nobody is trying to lecture me on business. AHAHAHAH HAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAH
What a joke. You're a joke. Your "business" is a fucking joke. Come back when you have a real job and make real money.
>>52070295
If people are "so dumb" then why do you literally make less than 1 million a year? Even people who own McDonalds franchisees make more than your joke of a company. PEOPLE WHO LITERALLY OWN BURGER FUCKING JOINTS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh cool, two neckbeard neets roleplaying as people who are actually successful at life on the day after Christmas.
It doesn't get better than this.
>>52070295
>>52070735
>working for someone else
>working
>at all
Hello wagecucks, enjoying your vacation? Oh no looks like you have to put in another 10 hours on Monday. Oh well, gotta do what you gotta do, right?
>>52070295
How does it feel that Bernie Sanders will tax you 90% and give it all to me?
wagecucks are soooo dumb ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>52070735
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
kek, try harder m8
>>52071014
>Bernie Sanders
muh socialist dream
He'll never get through Hillary, let alone Trump.
>>52070735
If Red Hat really hired someone like you, I'm probably going to not apply to them.
This is some borderline retardation shit right here.
>>52070778
My business exists for around 7 years, the McDonald's franchise is older than the cold war.
>be a retard
>earn a retard's wage
My meals are probably worth more than your car. Such is life in the proletarian abyss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>52071195
Hillary, Bernie, both are fighting for me :)
Now go along wagecuck, make me some money.
>>52071283
>I've been a slave for 7 years
my my keep up the good work, wagecuck
>>52071228
Why even bother, they're not going to hire you anyway?
>>52071363
I ignored your initial posts, because you're not even worth responding to.
However, since you insist on getting SOME sort of attention, I feel obliged to say that you're a worthless piece of shit loser and that you know that very well deep inside. You should kill yourself, because we all know you've been contemplating about it every now and then.
>>52071423
Oh, are you upset wagey? It's okay, I'm sure you'll feel better after a hard day's work.
Don't forget slave, all your taxes goes to me :^)
>>52070032
everyone on 4chan should
>>52071508
Honestly man although I personally don't share your views, I truly admire your outlook on life. I mean it, since rather than mindlessly following someone else's idea of success you go for what you think will make you live better.
I'm glad that my taxes go to you, keep it up my friend.
Ignore that outsourcing fucker, It's a shame we wont see it when his indians screw him up.
>>52067683
The company I work for has outsourced database stuff too. Mind you they've also got a load of Indian project managers and business analysts as well, which is really bizarre as their main skill should be communicating. Clearly where I work care more about saving money than being people well suited to their job. In those cases there's really nothing you can do to stop the outsourcing meme
>>52070063
hey, im a node.js developer, do you have a problem with that you FUCKING PAJEET?
>>52068549
I already have my employment, my health insurance, my happiness, and I live in a safe area. So no, I don't care about any of that.
My company CONSTANTLY tries to outsource everything. I'm not concerned because the Indians are absolutely horrible at it plus they can't talk to the clients. The Eastern Europeans are pretty decent though, they're the only ones I'm a bit worried about. Also they Indians know they are being exploited and the more skilled and intelligent ones are already very insulted by it.
>>52073488
>Also they Indians know they are being exploited and the more skilled and intelligent ones are already very insulted by it.
see thats what im talking about, i mean it really is degrading to them. we need to expand awareness because some are still deluded as fuck.
>>52067201
>not being a biomedical engineer
enjoy poverty dipshit
