I currently running Ubuntu but I want to get to the next step and install Arch.
During, the install, I can't connect to the internet.
On my real machine, during the install#ip link
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP (...)
2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> (...)
3: wlp3s0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> (...)
I successfully installed arch in a virtrual machine. Running the same command gives back :#ip link
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP (...)
2: enp0s3: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> (...)
Finally, on my current Ubuntu setup :#ip link
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP (...)
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> (...)
3: wlan0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> (...)
Do someone have an idea why the Arch installation is the only one to suffer from unreachable network?
I already tried the /sqt/ but my question remained unanswered... so I try this thread before giving up.
Is this a problem with your mirror list, or can you not even get a ping?
you should use oogaboogabuntu
>>51905810
Not even a ping.
This is the same .iso that I tried to train on the virtual machine so I have difficulties to know what can be the origin of this issue...
I think it's not related but I usedd bs=4M if=/path/to/archlinux.iso of=/dev/sdb && syncto make the usb I use for the install.
>>51905865
Come on man, I am currently using Ubuntu. But this is a temporary step and I want to graduate to Arch now. It's not that the install is too difficult since I trained on virtualbox, I am just having difficulties to troubleshoot.
>>51905942
Are u connecting to internet via ethernet or wifi? If wifi u will prolly have to manually set up ur config to have the correct ssid and pass etc.
>>51906051
Ah, sorry, I forgot to precise. I am using ethernet. However, I also tried with wifi without success either.
>>51906095
i think u might have to do something with ifconfig, something where eno1 gets turned into eth0, and where wlp3s0 gets turned into wlan0, i did something similar setting up freebsd on my laptop, i don't remember exactly but I had to edit the rc.conf file and then reboot to get it going.
>>51906095
me again, I just looked up my rc.conf file on my freebsd rig, i have a line that says
wlans_iwn0="wlan0"
iwn0 was the name of my wifi card, so yours is wlp3s0, maybe u have to do something similar?
OR just stop using arch and switch to FreeBSD, it's even more leet than Arch
Ren kills Han
>>51906211
>implying I would watch any star wars other than the original 3
>>51906202
I don't seem to have a rc.conf in /ect/
Should I write one geting inspired on your example but changing the name of the wificard to the name of mine?
I'll try FreeBSD somewhere later in the road when I will get more familiar with Arch and after I get trained to install FreeBSD on virtual machines. But this is few months ahead...
>>51906332
maybe try looking in the arch wiki
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration#Management_methods
>>51906332
this one too https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration
>>51906399
Shouldn't I first try to get it working with ethernet? I'm not a specialist but it seems unlikely to get a wifi connection if I cant get it working with a cabled connection.
>>51906458
the wifi and ethernet connections are separate entities so it shouldn't matter which one you set up first. I think the issue is letting the computer know which NIC to use for what.
>>51906458
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netctl#Wired here check this out i think this is what you have to do to get it set up
>>51905667
Just use netctl package. You will need to write simple configuraion file using example.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netctl
Read "Configuration" section
>>51906617
>>51906643
Thanks. Took notes of what seemed the most important in the wiki page. I'll now restart my computer and try to install again !
>>51906765
Never give up anon! Keep fighting until you Become Arch!
>>51906809
I failed once more to what seem to my due to my technical inability.
Since in all my tentatives,ip linkgives the same ip addresses, whether on the install, on my Arch virtual machine or in my current Ubuntu, I believe I have a static IP.
So, I copy the ethernet-static example to /etc/netctl, modify eth0 to eno1 and trunnetctl start ethernet-static
but without success. I think I should change the IP address and Gateway but ip links gives me what I believe is ipv6 whereas the example suggests ipv4.
Yeah, re reading this message I agree I sound like a noob but I feel like trying to achieve new challenges. Using Arch on my main machine is the current one.
>>51905667
My experience switching from ubuntu to arch was that the device names for everything changed. I think the incantation you need is something along the lines of systemctl enable [email protected], but I'm on my phone and can't check to be sure. Basically, there's a new naming scheme designed to be more predictable, and it makes instructions harder to follow. The devices that start with en are usually ethernet though.
Are you still booting from the live usb or whatever you used? If you boot from there, the internet should just be plug and play, and you can even chroot and install network manager like you would if you were booting normally.
Do be careful to disable the ethernet service I mentioned earlier and any other internet services you might have enabled while flailing if you do that. Multiple internet doodads don't play nicely together.
Don't give up though! My first arch install took an entire weekend of my dad and I trying to wrestle a spare computer into submission. There's a point where everything falls into place, and you still only have a vague idea of what's happening, but you know enough that you can do everything you need to. Once we hit that point, we were able to toss up a fresh arch installation in about 10 minutes. Once you get it, you won't really have to worry about it again.
systemctl start dhcpcd
>>51905667
wifi-menu
did you follow that idiot's guide? I told him to put that on there.
>>51907838
I am not at home now but I will try once more tonight.
I made a bootable arch Linux USB key I intend to use to do the install.
I use this key to install on my laptop, with the Ethernet plugged in.
It is the first time I encounter this issue (various *buntu, Linux mint and Debian installs I tried before never failed to connect to internet).
How can I be sure I need to use dhcp and not a static IP like I assumed?
>>51907857
I'll try it once I get back
>>51907865
Why should I use WiFi for the install over Ethernet?
>>51908181
>Why should I use WiFi for the install over Ethernet?
because the difference is literally nothing
downloaded packages have multiple mirrors if one fails, and are kept if the network connection times out
dhcpcd eno1
>>51906332
Just FYI, arch doesn't use an rc.conf
>>51905667
just antergos lol
I had the same problem when installing. I have no idea how I managed to get it to work. I can't remember, I only remember spending hours getting the Internet to work. Have you tried a ethernet cable? It did not work for me, but might work for you
>>51905667
next step might be arch, but next level would be parabola.
>hey, thanks for my freedom, anon!
you're welcome
>>51908621
This
Wifi-menu ?
>>51908621
What was the reasoning for changing the network names again?
Eth0 and wlan0 was easy to remember and worked fine, so why fuck with this?
dhcpd eno0
>>51908693
easy-to-remember address that stays the same for the device forever, as opposed to being dynamic. would be great if they did it for hard drives too.
New tentative (and bumping to prevent this thread from dying.)
Whish me luck, /g/
I successfully installed Arch ! Thank you for your help, kind anons !
However, I think I fucked up somewhere...
When I turn on my computer, a non interactive bunch of lines get displayed before I get to see the grub menu...Intel(R) Boot Agent GE v1.5.50
Copyright (C) 1997-2013, Intel Corporation
CLIENT MAC ADDR: EC F8 .. ... GUID: 445.......
DHCP....\
Then, after like 30 secondsIntel(R) Boot Agent GE v1.5.50
Copyright (C) 1997-2013, Intel Corporation
CLIENT MAC ADDR: EC F8 .. ... GUID: 445.......
PXE-E53: No boot filename received
PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel Boot Agent.
for like 2 seconds.
Finally, I can see the grub menu and boot on Arch.
Where did I fucked up?
>>51905667
>I currently running Ubuntu but I want to get to the next step and install Arch.
Arch is on the same step as Ubuntu though.
>>51910314
This usually means it just didnt get a DHCP offer.
>>51910314
Also, this is just your nic trying to pxe.
If you know what I mean.
>>51905667
who is this semen demon?
>>51910331
>>51910337
Sorry, I don't know yet what it means.
(Though this is the reason that motivated my choice for Arch, to try to know that actually happens instead of having it hidden).
Basic googling help me know the definition of each terms but I don't have enough experience yet to troubleshoot this problem.
>>51910349
Harumi Tachibana.
Why waste your time with Arch while Ubuntu already works perfectly?
>>51910372
For learning purpose. I am still a student for one semester so I can allow to spend some time on learning things. I assume that once I graduate and find a job, I won't have time to do such things anymore.
>>51910403
Alright, sorry
>>51910388
Fair enough.
To be honest, I just said that because I went to something similar as you. I hopped through every single distribution and ended up going back to the *buntu system.
Particularly I use Ubuntu because I liked Unity and Kubuntu is a thrash implementation of KDE.
Good luck with your installation. Just be careful enough to keep you Ubuntu partition, in case things go bad.
>>51910411
Before this attempt to use Arch, I was running Ubuntu with Openbox.
Configuring openbox and various softwares / personalisation to make the interface fit to my taste (such as dmenu2, designing my own themes and menus...) made me want to go deeper on understanging what's happening behind the pretty dial boxes and splash screens.
I am doing this install on an old hard drive for more security.
Good luck to you too venturing into linux distributions.
