>biggest tech blunders/disappointments of the early 21st century
>>51707584
Global Warming aka Climate Change aka Weather
Not just a tech blunder, it's the biggest scientific fraud in history
>>51707872
>says some retarded anon
Bernie Sanders says climate change is the entire reason terrorism happens.
>>51707872
I'd say it's almost on par with the flat earth or earth centered models
>>51707879
I know you're baiting, but there are a lot of people who agree with that perspective. The burden of proof is on the person making the claims. Please show me any evidence whatsoever of radical climate change or that carbon emissions have had any measurable effect on the climate of Earth. If you can't, you've only got blind faith. The climate change movement has become a religion or even a cult.
>>51707879
Colonel Sanders is a senile fool
I'm surprised more people don't take the "so what" attitude to climate change.
>more CO2 in atmosphere during time of dinosaurs and world was a lush jungle
>build a sea wall
>>51709014
True. Global warming is allot better than another ice age.
>>51707962
Climate change seems to be happening: seasons are appearing later or shorter during the calendar year. I don't think global warming is factually founded, and I don't think glaciers are a natural/needed part of the environment, just a remnant of the ice age. I don't necessarily support pumping toxins into the atmosphere but even worst case scenario, if California sinks into the ocean I think it's a win.
>>51711285
Forgot to make the point where I feel rotation speed, orbit of earth, tilt of axis, reversal of magnetic poles, and solar activity play a larger part on anything than "global warming"
>>51707584
>LHC
>BLUNDER
Fucking pick one. Literally the machine to unlock the secrets of reality.
>>51711285
>>51711304
There's no data to support any causation. The Earth is still in the process of exiting an ice age. Yes the climate is changing, that's quite obvious to everyone. However, none of these effects are runaway, elevated, or anything and show now causation of human activity.
The idea that the energy industry should be decimated by using inefficient technologies when energy is so scarce in our world today is horrifying. Climate change fanaticism is the most dangerous and destructive movement in the world today, surpassing even Islam.
>>51712568
>surpassing Islam
I wouldn't go that far, anon. I agree that climate change fanaticism is extremely economically damaging, though.
>Climate change denial
This board is officially done
What's wrong with the Large Hardon Collider?
It was big and it collided hardons. What's not to like?
>>51712628
They didn't find Jesus
>>51709014
>medieval warm period
>unprecedented period of prosperity
>global warming somehow a bad thing
I don't get it either. People go bonkers over shit that really doesn't matter that much.
>>51712604
>2015
>Still believing in fake 97%
>Still supporting manipulated data
Done indeed
>>51707584
Only blunder was not having it built in the US years ago
>>51712600
Yes, much more economically damaging than Islam is currently mustering. Entire industries have been shut down. The amount of disastrous pollution created by rare earth metal mining needed to create the massive amount of solar panels to get a fraction of the energy production its replacing is absurd. Even nuclear plants have been closed in favor of solar panel and wind farms. Carbon credits threaten to melt the economy down and turn the energy sector into even more of an oligopoly than it already is. Let's not forget the increased cost of goods with precious metals and resources being spent on wasteful green energy, driving up the cost of goods, living, and taxation. If the climate fanatics get their way, hundreds of millions of lives will be lost with the dearth of energy. Their solution is exponentially more damaging than their cause even if it were true, and by their own admission, it would have little effect on the apparent damage.
Islam is just a bunch of terrorist attacks, a set of asymmetrical wars that are costly to developed countries, and a mess with middle eastern energy.
>caring about anything other than yourself
plebs
i'm beginning to wonder whether climate change or the immense amount of cancer from this thread is more dangerous
>>51707584
y'all climate change deniers need to educate yourself. at least go watch Chasing Ice.
>armchair climatologists
Nice.
You're just like those dumbass politicians trying to figure out which approach to the climate change will land more money in their pockets
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>>51707872
Assuming there is no proof that is 100% relataed. Even if we have only 20% founded suspicion, is it still rational not caring about given 20% risk?
>>51707962
I NEED THE SOURCE OF THAT GIF RIGHT NOW.
>>51712648
It will kill God.
There's a possibility it'll solve the mysteries of the creation of the Universe.
>>51707584
>Being a fucking idiot
>>51707584
DDR4
>>51707584
>pic unrelated
now ITER...
Can someone explain to me why global warming isn't, in the first place, a consequence of constant sun shining on earth? Or does earth actually radiate just as much shit out again (or more)
>>51714900
>this guy is serious
>>>/w/ikipedia
>>51707584
>LHC
>blunder
This is why illiterate people shouldn't be allowed to post on the internet.
>>51714906
I've read that article in its entirety and all its sources, nobody seems to acknowledge that global warming is just a straight up consequence of the sun giving us its energy.
>>51714946
please be fucking joking
do you even understand why they call them "greenhouse gasses"?
>>51714957
Because they trap the energy of the sun on earth? Don't see how that contradicts my point.
>>51714965
Because you're a moron desu
>>51714970
You too
>>51714970
>g-greenhouse gases baka!
Why don't YOU refute him, if it's so clear and easy to do?
>>51714965
So what is your point? That the sun is what keep us warm? Holy shit, thank you Sherlock
>>51714946
Do you not understand the greenhouse effect? You are either very young, retarded, or just uneducated. Either way, let me explain it in retard terms for you the sun gives off heat, that heat is supposed to radiate out. Greenhouse gases trap that heat for longer. Earth gets hotter.
>>51714989
>who idea is based on trapping heat from the sun
>"why nobody admit it sun heat?"
how is this not clear?
>>51714999
*radiate out after it reaches/warms earth
>>51714989
greenhouse gasses increase the amount of heat that stays on earth through being absorbed into co2 and other greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere as opposed to being radiated back out into space
it's not rocket science
>>51714818
Shadow President
>>51714999
You mean without the greenhouse effect, ALL the energy from the sun would be radiated out again? Also I've spelled out your explanation in my other post, don't see why you're explaining it to me again.
>>51707962
>>>/pol/
and stay there fucking retard
>>51715021
sooner or later there's going to be an equilibrium, it's a question of how hot that equilibrium is
seriously, go read a book
>>51715021
Sorry not him, saw this on the front page and jumped in, didn't realize that autism levels were through the roof here.
OF COURSE all the energy radiates out, or else earth would keep heating up forever... Heat radiates out during night, more gets added during the day (depending of course where you are on the planet). It SHOULD be at an equilibrium
>>51715036
>>51715038
What if we just weren't at the equilibrium yet? We would measure warming
Never thought there would be climate change deniers here, especially on /g/. I bet they're all Americans
>>51715050
>What if 4.54 billion years since the formation of Earth, when it was fucking melted, we just weren't at the equilibrium yet?
>>51715050
I'm not getting into that argument with you, whether global warming (which IS occurring) is human caused or for some unexplained reason the sun got hotter or something. I just wanted to explain to you the basics of the greenhouse effect because its not fucking hard to understand and you should have seen one by the time you entered middle school and understood how it works. Same principle applies to the earth
>>51707962
I saved that gif, it's fucking awesome
>>51715050
>What if we just weren't at the equilibrium yet?
you mean because of all the greenhouse gasses we're pumping into the atmosphere?
Yeah.
>>51715090
I literally described, in a simplistic manner, the greenhouse effect for you (or the other anon) when asked in a previous post. I have not claimed it wasn't the case or that I don't understand it.
>this thread
I know you're all trolling but God damn it rustles my jimmies that there are so many retards out there that nothing will be done about the climate until it's too late. It's frog in boiling water syndrome and they're too stupid to see it.
>>51715127
I honestly don't know what to think anymore
>I've read that article in its entirety and all its sources, nobody seems to acknowledge that global warming is just a straight up consequence of the sun giving us its energy.
Did you mean all the energy comes from the sun? well of course it does, where the fuck would it come from? the point of the greenhouse effect is that humans are making the earth hotter. If you understood that, then why make the post I quoted? what is so baffling here?
>>51715090
He's a climate "skeptic". Have you ever encountered one who enjoyed a high school climatology education?
>>51715143
What do you want to do about it? Women are being put in charge.
Just look at germany, where whiny liberal women got the government to bail out of harmless nuclear energy so as to not spook the women with the EVIL RADIATION WAVES
let's run those coal plants instead senpaitachi
>>51715156
Ya I guess, I don't pay much attention to this "debate" anymore since im 28 and college is behind me but I always assumed it was a reasoned debate as to the causes of global warming, not that its occurring. I certainly haven't encountered someone before who thinks its a revelation that all the energy heating up the earth is originating from the sun. Like that's some new fucking insight.
>>51707584
I don't see how it's a disappointment when it has the ability to solve the greatest mysteries of space-time.
>>51715143
>people are still brainwashed into thinking man-made climate change is real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QmkHr0W5Vk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82W41de4TT4
>>51717162
>Youtube videos of some dude asserting is a giant conspiracy, and every scientist is in on it.
Why aren't climate change deniers viewed as on par with creationists? Their arguments are EXACTLY THE SAME.
>>51707872
>>51707879
>>51707962
>>51709014
>>51711285
>>51712568
>>51712600
>>51712604
>>51712894
>>51714553
>>51714553
>>51714649
>>51714673
>>51715056
>>51715143
>>51715156
Welp, simple explanations for simple people. I think this guy does quite a good job of elucidating this in a manner that even an idiot could understand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82W41de4TT4
>Stefan Molyneux
Really? seriously? Come on, you are better than that.
10 mins in, Alex Epstein is an idiot who does not know the meaning of the term "diminishing returns" A little bit of googling and he has a B.A. in philosophy which explains his complete and utter lack of understanding of basic maths and chemistry.
>>51711832
before they do anything that will actually be used to better our lives, China will build many times bigger and better one.
>>51707962
Miss this game.
but even black science man in reboot of carl 420 sagan's COSMOS said it's real
>>51707584
/g/.
I'm curious as to which part of climate change do deniers think is wrong.
>Gases like COx, NOx, etc. are greenhouse gases
>Greenhouse effect prevents a percentage of Earth's heat from radiating into space
>Increase in generation of greenhouse gases since the Industrial Revolution has caused the temperature of Earth to increase over time
>Increase of temperature results in melting of polar ice caps, shifts ecosystems, leads to droughts, hurricanes, tsunamis
>>51707584
LHC is stupid overhyped shit. I bet you can't even play Witcher 3 on it.
Why is it bad that ice caps are melting to dilute carbonic acid levels in the oceans? Aside from the rise in sea levels or the reflective properties ON THE POLES!
>>51718382
>grand conspiracy
no, it's simply that they have 0 evidence. It completely ignores the scientific process. It's literally a hypothesis that's been untested. The data that's been gathered thus far has completely disagreed with their models. The historic data has completely disagreed with their models.
This consensus nonsense is as anti-scientific as possible. Science is not consensus; it's reason, evidence, testing and being critical of theories. Climate science of the past 50 years has been a farce and you know it.
If you actually review the articles and studies that most these climate scientists cite, you'll see that its largely hypothesization, taking liberties with projecting data with models that don't explain any period in Earth history.
Simple facts are that the climate has been hotter, colder, wetter, and dryer previously, and humans have survived through all of it. There's no reason for economic suicide because of some climate evangelists with a crack pot hypothesis. The government shouldn't be involved in controlling and shaping the energy sector. Solyndra and Fukushima being two great examples of why.
>>51718537
>person
>really? seriously?
I sure love your non-argument. Very rational and compelling.
Four Chan
>>51714965
You fucking retard.
We're trapping too much heat, you asshole.
>>51719340
>climate fanatics think the planet Earth is no different than a greenhouse
Human made carbon emissions as a whole constitute a fart in the wind. If anything, the plants are loving it.
>>51707872
/g/ is literally so retarded that you let this single non-tech related post derail the entire thread.
>>51719293
>99% of scientists
>some dude on /g/
Hmmm, yeah I suppose I believe you.
>>51721359
>muh appeal to authority
no different than the Vatican
>>51721385
Okay genius, I take it you've read the IPCC reports and can explain (and even prove) to me their shortcomings and flaws?
>>51721385
stop using ad hominem attacks you nigger
Reminder that the same people who believe in climate change also believe in white privilege.
>>51712568
>when energy is so scarce in our world today
good joax anon.
energy scarcity is a hoax perpetuated by coal, oil, and natural gas miners to push prices up.
nuclear has been viable for 60+ years now and provides unprecedented amounts of energy to billions. it just needs wider deployment and reductions in red tape and restrictions.
I need to get out before this thread makes me catch retardation.
>>51721874
burden of proof is on you dear
>>51724065
tell that to the third world shitholes that have rolling blackouts as is. If energy weren't scarce, it would be as valuable as air.
>>51714649
>y'all
>>51724237
and if diamonds weren't scarce. . . . .oh wait. . . .
>>51724237
>nuclear has been viable for 60+ years now and provides unprecedented amounts of energy to billions.
>it just needs wider deployment and reductions in red tape and restrictions.
I guess coalfags can't read.
>>51724294
You do realize we're arguing against monopolization of energy, right? You think carbon credits, government regulation, banning select methods, and so on will make an open and fair market for energy or something? Who do you think is funding all this green energy technology and research?
>>51724310
>giving nuclear technology to niggers
What could possibly go wrong? Many climate fanatics are also against nuclear energy by the way.
For developed nations, I agree. Government should get out of the energy sector entirely, and should only intervene when Robber Baron tier shit is going on.
>>51724415
i mentioned diamonds to highlight the inflated costs point.
