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>Job Title
>Years of Experience
>Degrees/Certs
>How did you find/get job
>Pay
>Location
>>51653439
>>Job Title
Support Engineer
>>Years of Experience
5
>>Degrees/Certs
pic related
>>How did you find/get job
got this shitty job in a week looking on seek.
i settled for this position because i just moved from Sydney and I didn't want to stay without work for too long. I'll get a network position early next year
>>Pay
$65k
>>Location
Melbourne AU
>>51654514
>support engineer
You mean tech help fucking faggot. What you do has nothing to do with engineering
You probably have a degree in psychology. Just kill yourself
>>51654800
>being actually that jelly
Been unemployed for a while eh?
Actually I have a degree in Electronics engineering and Telecommunications.
I am not tech help. I have to look after server/network infrastructure and Support Engineer is my official position name I didn't make it up.
>>51654841
>>51654800
I would like to add I was a network engineer before but I had to move city for personal reasons not work related. I accepted the first offer I got (not even 1 week looking).
Now get fucked you useless cunt. Go play minecraft and shitpost on /b/
>>51654514
>5 years
>65k
kek, are you even trying
Is Professor Messer or CBTNuggets better to study for the A+ cert?
IT Technician, Level 2
11 years
A+
Random Craigslist ad, shit you not.
Started at level 1 for 35k, got promoted to level 2 a month ago. Only been with the company 8 months.
Working towards my Hyper-V certs then getting my MCSA for server 2012. Hoping to become a system admin one day.
>>51655235
I used professor messer to get my A+, highly recommended. CBT is like watching paint dry.
>>51655674
Wups,
45k @ Level 2.
>>51654800
remember: engineering is a stolen title from people that used to, operate engines for ships and trains
>>51653439
>help desk technician
>0
>CS
>they called me
>17.25/hr
>kansas city
havnt even started yet but ive been looking for almost 6 months for a tech related job so i took it. eventually im going to try and transfer to a position with more hands on work.
Certifications are a joke http://www.examcollection.com/
>>51655824
employment is also a joke, if you'd ever have worked
>>51653439
Why yes I have a question.
I'm in college right now and was thinking of getting a Red Hat Certified Sys Admin so I can get a first job, but on the recommendations page, it says it's recommended for sysadmins who have 1-3 years of experience, is this one not entry level enough for me? Is there a better option? Also, are the classes required or can I study for this on my own? Is there any way of knowing if I'm good enough?
I look at the recommended skills and it's mostly shit I can do like:
>Using the Bash shell and managing files and directories from the command line
>Job Title
System Engineer
>Years of Experience
4 years
>Degrees/Certs
B.IT
>How did you find/get job
Grad intake
>Pay
90k
>Location
Brisbane AU
>>51656085
Your work experience != everyone else's.
Are certificates a meme?
Do employers actually care about them if I'm looking for a software engineering job?
>>51656141
>Are certificates a meme?
Definitely http://www.examcollection.com/
>Do employers actually care about them if I'm looking for a software engineering job?
Nah, most are targeted at sysadmins and ignorant HR goofballs. Get a real degree, matey.
>>51656226
You keep posting that site, I don't get it?
>>51656119
sorry, the real world isn't full of unique snowflakes like "yourself"
>>51656255
It has all the answers for most tech certifications. All you need to do is memorise them to pass.
>>51656262
I'm really not, mate. Just very, very cynical about tech certs.
>>51656305
awful specific thing to be cynical about
how many job opportunities have you lost due to believing someone having more useless certs than you?
>>51656305
>It has all the answers for most tech certifications. All you need to do is memorise them to pass.
You the kind of nigger that thinks studying is for plebs because you can just look shit up on google aren't you?
>>51656305
>memorise them to pass
>implying the same questions actually appear on the test
>>51656324
>>51656335
When I completed 4 years of vocational education I earned like 15 of them in a year using just the dumps. I'm holding several MCITP, MSCA, MCSE, CCNA, CCNP and LPIC-2 titles just by memorising some stupid questions. I got really sick of it and did a bachelors, a real degree. Then the same thing happened. Earned 5 more, got sick of and now finishing my masters. No more useless certs for me.
They're just a stupid tool for companies to get money, and HR monkeys to select people who are good at memorising stuff. Being good in IT is not measured by the amount of certifications, not by a long shot.
>>51656357
They do, all of them. Every fucking time. It's a sick joke, the whole system.
>>51656105
pls respond ;-;
>>51653439
>Job Title
SRE / "Software Reliability Engineer"
I spend most of my time coding, but am also part of the on call rotation for my service.
>Years of Experience
1.25 years at current position, various internships and personal projects previously.
>Degrees/Certs
Computer Science B.S.
>How did you find/get job
The day after I listed my Facebook internship on LinkedIn, I was contacted by a Google recruiter. I got the job. I got the Facebook internship through a recruiter who found me on GitHub.
>Pay
~$105k/year + performance bonus + on call bonus ($20-30k or so extra)
>Location
Mountain View, CA
My career plan:
- Get promoted during next promo cycle (end of next quarter)
- Switch teams and ladders, moving to the SF office and switching to "SWE" (Software Engineering). The ops side of SRE is interesting, but not what I really want to do, and oncall can be quite stressful when a serious issue comes up.
- Continue working and saving while also making progress on the company I'm starting with a friend of mine.
- If it takes off, quit and dedicate my full time to the new company, then eventually step back and work on other projects.
- If it doesn't take off, leave Google for a higher-impact position at another company, potentially returning to Google later for more money and/or a more interesting position.
- Continue working while trying to launch a different idea.
>>51656435
kek, seems like I was wrong
>>51656435
There is not an international association that keeps track of the quality of every cert around, it's your fault for choosing joke certs. Now saying certs are useless because you've done a few joke ones is just spreading desinfo.
Also:
>is doing a masters
>thinks he can say what is and isn't a joke
>>51656469
>>51656435
samefag
>>51656305
The fuck mate? Isn't that what studying is? Just memorising a bunch of facts???
>>51656517
The possibility that someone would admit they are wrong on this fucking site like that is far smaller.
>>51656435
It's still better than having no certs at all, well as long as you actually study and don't cheat using dumps. People would notice that kind of shit anyways on interviews.
>>51656527
If you think parrots can speak English, then sure.
Age 23.
systems engineer at Microsoft on Redmond main campus.
105k with full benefits, PTO and 401k.
>That feel when most people work with are over 40 with kids
>that feel when cant relate to young people my own age.
>that feel when I'm earning double tha my than anyone my age I went to high school or college with that took advance retarded classes unnecessary courses.
While you faggots are wage slaves paying off mortgage and debts in your 40s, I'll be in my comfy million dollar house before I'm 30. Suck it.
Ask me anything.
>>51656573
proof
>>51653439
Is LPIC1-3 a good cert to get?
>>51656573
>23
>105k
>million in <7 years
>Ask me anything.
have you ever heard of taxes
>>51656641
He doesn't pay taxes because he's a NEET.
>>51656573
>>that feel when cant relate to young people my own age.
still feeling that level 59 angst huh?
>>51656641
>What is 401k
>What is benefits
>What is stock options.
Do you even finance?
>>51656641
The guy is lying.
>>51656471
>>>51656435 (You)
>There is not an international association
This is but one piece of the puzzle that's missing. Companies providing tech certs should incorporate more hands on labs during exams, drop multiple choice questions, replace them with open ones, preferably written exams, and graded by a real trainer/teacher, who needs to send the exams to an independent body or association that checks for fraud and such.
So yes, much like a school. In fact, nothing beats a degree from a good university. But to actually do all this, that's waaaay too expensive for companies to keep pushing for certs, both to provide them, as well as to require them for a job.
>it's your fault for choosing joke certs. Now saying certs are useless because you've done a few joke ones is just spreading desinfo.
The way certs are handled now, exam question open for everyone to see, and the companies not doing anything about, is nothing short of a joke.
>Also:
>>is doing a masters
>>thinks he can say what is and isn't a joke
Cheating is wrong, but nobody's stopping anyone so everyone does. That's hilarious. Doesn't take a masters degree to figure that out.
>>51656486
See pic.
>>51656694
>look mom, I can edit the page source.
>>51654906
>network engineer
Top cvck
It isn't engineering though. Like you aren't recognised by Engineers Australia or any other official engineering organisation. It's like being a 'sales engineer' when you don't even have an engineering degree.
>>51656662
someone who wants their status to be "has a one million dollar house" doesn't know about finances
>>51656716
You're retarded.
since there's another msft autist here
>Job Title
software engineer
>Years of Experience
1 as a pm, 1 as a software engineer
>Degrees/Certs
electrical engineer & computer engineering
>How did you find/get job
career fair. switched to SE from PM by talking to the dev manager and doing a "mock interview"
>Pay
115k base, 15k signing still vesting/yr + 15-20k performance bonus
>Location
redmond, wa
career plan:
- get to senior se then go to facebook once we get fucked with open offices
- get some management experience
- launch a startup once finances aren't a question
- go back to microsoft once it fails
>>51656694
>nothing beats a degree from a good university
oh it's one of these people
your next post is
>i worked my ASS off to get to where i am
>i paid a LOT more than you ever did for my education
>my school isn't for-profit
>all those sports programs go to making the labs better
>>51656736
btw 1mil house in seattle really isn't that outlandish, by the time this guy buys one in a 7 years it will be closer to the norm
>>51656748
:^) Ok kid.
>>51656641
Not to mention my Chinese fiancé who majored in accounting just graduated and accepted a accountant role at Expedia HQ in downtown Bellevue, WA.
Cherry on top is she is foreign exchange student I met on tinder and is emotionally dependent on me
>>51656772
it's not, it's just a childish generic figure to laud as a goal status
>>51656777
cool, an extra 60k a year till you knock her up
>>51656799
agreed, good point
>>51656777
>racemixing
>>51656768
That's no refutation, anon. Nor is it pertinent to the problems of your beautiful tech certification system I addressed.
>>51656752
I'm >>51656447
Just FYI, Facebook is all about open office plans, at least when I interned there. They didn't even have the divider things they have at Google.
Also, does MS do 401k matching, and how is the stock plan? I sold about $30k from my Google stock a few days ago, which was pretty fun.
>>51656850
yeah that's why once I have to give up my office I may as well give in. bummer this is the work place of the future...
as of jan 1st MSFT matches 50% of IRA max contribution, so next year they'll match up to $9k. that is a change from the previous "50% of 6% of your salary". I believe it's now the same as Google?
ESPP is 10% discount from market rate up to 15% of salary. It's decent. I am a pussy and sell all of mine immediately and invest in index funds. At my level most bonuses are made up of cash so I don't futz a ton with MSFT stock, I think that changes in the higher bands.
>>51653439
>tfw about to graduate from DeVry with an Associates in Electronics and Computer Technology
>took networking classes that I remember nothing from, took a bunch of ECT classes that just taught me the basics of circuitry
>only ever soldered once
>only "code" I worked with was GUI coding like Quartus II
am I getting memed on?
>>51653439
>>Job Title
IT Specialist 1
>>Years of Experience
3
>>Degrees/Certs
A+, Security+
>>How did you find/get job
Used to be a janitor at the administration building of a large school district. One of the schools lost their computer tech, and one of the really high up ladies downtown gave me the job because she knew I was good at fixing computers. Worked there 1.5 years then applied for this IT specialist job at a different organization.
>>Pay
43,000/yr
>>Location
Colorado
>>51656850
also consider seattle over SF if you want to work for the mega corps, it's got a much lower COL and a great town
>>51656966
Oh, degrees = bach in information security and mast in security management. Going to go for the PHD simply to avoid student loans for another 4 years then do income based repayment. If I can get more loan funding then I'll just do school for the rest of my life. Have like 5 PHDs when I die HAHA fuck you America
>>51656105
You can definitely still take it if you have the skills or ability to learn it, but that is a difficult test if you've never had experience with Linux. Are you wanting to be a Linux admin?
>>51656772
This guy gets its.
Most people don't realize a home in Seattle/Redmond area is expensive because they're developing cities. Which means major companies like Boeing, Microsoft, Starbucks, and Expedia are based in this area which drives real estate prices way the fuck up.
>>51656305
>>51656435
I agree that having the certs don't mean that you're worth a fuck in IT, however, in my industry if you don't have the certs they don't give a shit about your degree either. It's just a necessary evil for some of us that either don't have a degree OR if you're in an industry like mine (Government)
>>51657067
Yes, I'm looking at LPIC now since that's more entry level and is cheaper, what do you think? I can always get a Red Hat after I'm emplyed.
>>51656573
kek, thinking you'll be able to afford million dollar home anywhere near where you're living @ 105k a year.
>>51657115
Exactly, that's why I put up with them for so long. I refuse to continue doing so however. That's why I started doing my bachelors and now my masters in the first place.
>>51656921
Aha.. Ahahaha.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>51655753
Im in kansas city as well. Umkc student currently. Any advice for finding IT work? I havent actually started looking yet
Reminder to just memorise exam questions http://www.examcollection.com/
Everyone does, so should you.
literally 100% shilling
>wow
you guys don't even bother with bait
you just throw the whole boat in
>>51657126
To be honest, I'm not a Linux admin so I can't tell you the exact best course of action. However, if you can do the Red Hat exam, I would venture that it holds much more weight behind it than the LPIC.
>Job Title
Home Security Guard
>Years of Experience
25
>Degrees/Certs
Certified Home Security Guard Technician
>How did you find/get job
Hired on the spot
>Pay
Mom's Food
>Location
Home
>>51657295
It definetly does, but i don't have the money for it, I really need a job asap.
![COJ3bMq[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IgD6KEi.jpg "COJ3bMq[1].jpg")
>>51656921
>DeVry
>>51653439
Systems Engineer
3 years
Linux+, Security+, Network+
I feel really lucky to get this job because I'm 19.
$49k
Texas
>>51657295
>do the Red Hat exam, I would venture that it holds much more weight behind it than the LPIC.
Definitely. Which is sad, but it's true nonetheless. Take it from an LPIC-2 holder. RHCSA is easy peasy judging from the course material, but at least it's hands on labs, so you need to know what you're doing. LPIC is just studying a brain dump.
>>51657271
Enjoy being fired when your employer realises you don't know anything.
>>51657354
Tell me your ways. I'm in the DFW area with no experience...
>>51654514
Nice certs man but 65k with that many CCNPs is very low. I am making 58k with just a CCNA R&S and 4 years of experience
>>51657320
Red Hat is way too expensive ($600 for an exam or so?). Fix that when you actually have an employer. Focus on LPIC for now, you'll be fine.
>>51657377
Yeah, I'm this guy >>51656435 >>51656694 , genius. I hope you all do so, everyone does so anyway. The whole cert system is one big comedy show.
>>51657443
Thanks mate, You think I can get started with just a LPIC-1? or should I go for level 2 as well?
>>51657415
I'm DFW too, wanna fuck a trap?
>>51657354
Congrats, keep it up! Just remember to never stop learning or pushing yourself
>>51657471
Level 2 is only awarded to you when you successfully passed level 1. The order in which you take all exams doesn't matter though. You're free to start with level 2, but only when you passed level 1 it will be awarded to you.
>>51657443
So what's your occupation now anon? Did you not get jobs based on the certs you dumped? Did you learn everything you needed to know on the job?
>>51657509
Sorry, I meant if I could get a job with just level 1.
>>51657415
>>51657480
>not realizing your mother killed you in your previous life
>year of the trial size dove bar
>>51657415
There's a lot of data centers in DFW. I'd recommend getting the A+ and the Network+. Or at least pirate the training videos from cbtnuggets on piratebay and learn all the objectives and understand them very well. Apply for every datacenter job in DFW and you'll get a call from a few. Once in a DC learn linux and work your way up.
A bit about working in a DC:
https://www.quora.com/Whats-it-like-to-work-in-a-data-center
>>51657518
>What's his occupation
Shilling that website, obviously.
>>51656921
enjoy that $60000 of debt
>>51657524
Thanks anon, I saw a position a while ago for one with Softlayer, but I never got a call. I've been focusing on IBM since it seems they'll hire with little experience. I don't personally know of any DC since I just moved here. Could you kindly name a couple that could potentially get me started?
>>51657522
Sorry. Level 2 is definitely recommend. Level 1 is really just beginner stuff. Btw, use this http://www.examcollection.com/ and you can't fail. All the answer you need. Everyone cheats in this world, so should you. The system stinks, but good luck to you.
>>51657518
Still finishing my masters, please read my posts more thoroughly. Certs are a fucking joke in my not so humble opinion.
>>51657528
Hell no, don't pay for anything you see there. Just download a cracked VCE reader and download the dumps from the site.
>Job Title
network tech
>Years of Experience
2
>Degrees/Certs
meme it degree from trade school
ccna i let lapse from 10 years ago
>How did you find/get job
employee referral
>Pay
40k
>Location
duluth
>>51657559
Found this website, it lists a few. Also look on Indeed, monster, linkedin, or hired.com
http://www.datacentermap.com/usa/texas/dallas/
CSE student here. What specific areas are the best for salary? Required skills?
>>51657591
Let me rephrase that. What positions have you held before?
>>51653439
>>Job Title
NOC Engineer
>>Years of Experience
4
>>Degrees/Certs
CCNA R&S
A+ (old version)
>>How did you find/get job
Candidate referral
>>Pay
58k
>>Location
FL
Im working towards my A+/net+ and im 20
What am I in for?
>>51656813
but surely the chinese + white genetics will produce a robust hybrid
>>51653439
oscp, just because fuck it.
might do linux+ or some RHEL shit if I ever hate my life
>>51657648
>A+
literally anyone with a pulse can get it
>net+
more useful though employers love cisco
>>51656921
> DeVry
literally why
>>51657639
System and network administration. It helped me saving money for my current education.
>>51657640
>Engineer
>at a NOC
you're helpdesk with ssh access to routers.
>>51657664
Yea i've heard about cisco was gonna try it after I finish my net+
>Job Title
Software Engineer L2
>Years of Experience
3
>Degrees/Certs
BEng Software Engineering
>How did you find/get job
Looked for jobs online and Applied
>Pay
£31k
>Location
London
>>51657685
they would complement each other.
depending in how well you can cram CCENT can be banged out in several weeks.
>>51656921
oh fuck anon...
you dun goofed desu senpai
>>51657674
What the plan going forward?
>>51653439
Why is CISSP looked down on anymore(ever)?
>>51656921
I took a field trip to one of those shitty for profit unis before
the indian teacher of the electronics class gave people free breadboards
still have it to this day
>>51657684
I know, and the best part is that I get paid just for that. Isn't it awesome?
>>51657726
I've already found two potential employers, but I'm not sure which to pick once I'm done here. I also keep getting messages and calls from recruiters for DevOps stuff (mostly Java, what's up with that) and it's really annoying. It's like people nowadays can't even fucking read a simple resume or LinkedIn profile.
>>51657765
well it's boring as hell, which is why i started implementation
>Job Title
I'm a full time Compsci student but I also work as a teaching assistant a few hours each week, also sysadmin for a local charity
>Years of Experience
2. Was a support engineer before this, got a L3 apprenticeship, few CISCO certs and ITIL foundation doing that before uni
> How did you find / get job
Scored over 80% average in my freshman year so I was offered the teaching role - applied for uni like anyone else
>Pay
topkek - enough to buy pizza
>Location
Wales, UK
currently looking for an industrial year placement
>Job Title
Network Support Engineer
>Years of Experience
4
>Degrees/Certs
CCNA R/S
>How did you find/get job
Recruited on LinkedIn
>Pay
$90k/yr + plus fiscal year % bonus
>Location
bay area
Feeling pretty good about myself since I'm in my mid-20s and fucked away my college years studying liberal arts.
>>51657422
i know mate i am just waiting for the holidays to go
>>51656435
>They do, all of them. Every fucking time. It's a sick joke, the whole system.
true but only the entry levels certs. Good luck getting CCIE for example.
>>51658141
There are some very, very few exceptions. They're far outnumber by the vast majority however. Certs like the CCIE are the exception because they're not just multiple choice questions you memorise. Yet you can still easily earn all the certs below studying just brain dumps and some helpful tips online.
>>51658141
Also, ever wondered why there are so few CCIE holders?
>>51658479
that is my point.
>>51658444
yep thats why CCIE is very valuable. there are so many people who sits only for the written CCIE exam and they say they are CCIE.
>>51657480
im in DFW and i wanna fuck a trap
you better not be one of those nasty craigslist ones
>>51658479
>few CCIE holders?
The CCIE cert is not cheap/affordable by most run of the mill network engineers and admins by any means and on top of that, you can only take it in very specific datacenters (where they lock you for six hours)
>HS offered networking classes
>forgot most of it
Should I try to learn again or just give up?
>>51657354
I'm also in TX. Did you start at a data center? How'd you get the initial experience?
>>51659125
give up
Bump http://www.examcollection.com/
