A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults, bullying, and shitposting to a minimum.
>Doping news
http://www.allthingsgym.com/retests-olympic-doping-samples/
http://www.iwf.net/category/anti-doping-news/
>How to Snatch w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X
>How to Clean & Jerk w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy
>Pas notes about the Chinese System
http://chinfl.blogspot.sk/2016/02/notes-from-china.html
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
>Everett Basic Novice Program
http://imgur.com/pCKsrOM
http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/131/Starter-Program-for-Catalyst-Athletics-Online-Workouts/
>Takano Example Programs [CIII, CII, CI, CMS]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8AqZyApAyeSx-AoX3drVwpQEAJzVDvAJsE9PKoPwZw/edit?usp=sharing
>Mobility stuff
http://www.catalystathletics.com/video/section/2/Mobility-Flexibility-Training-Prep/
>Useful videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
>Helpful blogs
yashathoughts.com
chinfl.blogspot.com
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
>>37761076
At least we still have something to look forwards to in Rio.
>>37761229
>I hope people will reply telling I'm also worth seeing in Rio
>I'm so lonely
>When will it end? :-(
>...
>Daddy where are you
>>37761268
>implying I'm going to Rio
summoning commie
Plz help me with snatch / clean positions. Im not sure if my positions are right. Any good videos / sites where they teach the positions and what to check / keep in mind?
>>37761739
Its right in the fucking OP bruv, in MAXIMUM russian accent.
Can I get a form check for my front squats ?
>>37761848
It doesn't really tell the whole story. He's not talking anything about feet position, shoulder - elbow - knee line, weight on foot etc that make the positions..
Also other question. I find it pretty weird how klokov teaches the snatch. Nobody at my oly gym is doing them like that (when he passes the knee he straightens his legs, gets to toes kinda early and then slides). Most of the lifters at my gym kinda just get fast to the power position, and from there explode brutally, and drop fast under the bar so their feet get pretty high in the air. A bit hard to explain, i hope somebody understood.
HES READY BOYS
>>37761866
never put the weight back in the rack like that.
>>37761490
umaru was best girl
>>37760690
Your coach has trained under a guy who isn't really even a coach?
Don't wanna be a cunt but Jon north does online programming and seminars. How did your coach 'train under' him? It sounds like your coach is using a name to sell himself. He might be a good coach but that sounds like a dodgy credential.
Also you can't really just say 'bang with hips vs slide up legs' there's a lot of lifters who slide the bar up legs and still bang the bar out and likewise a lot who's snatches come right into the hip crease without much leg contact who have a very neat and close bar path
>>37760835
Clean deadlift if you need positional strength for the clean. Remember the first pull is actually initiated with legs don't lift it all with your lower back or it'll feel heavy and put you on your toes
What's wrong with this kid?
>>37763372
he spends too much time on an armenian spit-swapping board.
>>37762512
Why not? Felt better than staggering 2 mini steps
>>37762005
I don't like the Klokov tutorial. Not only is K himself not a very good model for demonstration given his atypical set up etc, but his instructions are confusing and potentially misleading. There are some cues Klokov gives that might be helpful (MAXIMUM etc) but everything else I'd disregard.
>>37763611
watch taraktee
>>37763652
I'm not actually in the market, just giving my $.02.
>>37763718
fuck u den dont talk 2 me
Lu = old & busted
Tian Tao = New hotness
>>37763836
Will bomb
Rostami is glorious champ
>>37763729
sry bb :^(
>>37763836
They will always be dbl drgnz tgthr what're you talkin bout?
>>37764072
Rostami isn't going to rio.
>>37764089
Source pls. Why wouldn't he go they have 5 spots and hes the world record holder
Can somebody better versed in weightlifting tell me why it seems like the US hasn't had many viable candidates for placing high in weightlifting?
>>37764220
Lack of popularity
Lack of funding
Lack of coaching
Lack of drugs
>>37764285
Also lack of youth development. I guess that could play into lack of funding/ popularity too.
>>37764220
Because US networks don't air weightlifting so it hasn't gotten much popularity, thereby decreasing government funding for olympic athletes. I read an interview once (don't remember who or when) claimed that he got $250k funding from government while the swimmers got $2mil per athelete -but don't quote me on this, maybe I didn't understand clearly. Popularity basically, it affects everything else.
>>37764387
>>37764348
>>37764285
I feel like Crossfit would have made some kind of impact on that by now though considering how much of their "programming" is based around olympic lifts
Do they mostly just stick to the Crossfit games or something?
>>37764422
Crossfit has increased the popularity and participation yes but the average person getting into crossfit even if they're very talented is generally already in their 20s or even 30s. Maybe their kids will get into lifting early but I think there is yet to be a real surge in talent as a result yet.
>>37764348
Yeah, I think that its a perpetual circle... not popular, no kids=not enough results=no funding and then repeat. It's the same here in britbong
>>37764422
Crossfit has done a lot for the sport actually. We have more people performing the olympic lifts and competing that (dare I say) ever. The The popularity here is rising but it is hard to keep people compelled because it is not as exciting as a lot of other sports we have. The money isn't in a weightlifting competition, so Reebok and other sponsors wont put their full financial backing behind it. See Olympic lifting more as a small fish riding the current that is Crossfit for as long as it can.
>>37764220
usa has a shitload of athletic talent that all goes towards sports that people actually watch (meaning athlete gets paid more)
there are likely football players given dedicated oly training would do very well
>>37764518
football pl and crossfit are draining our talent reeee
>>37764518
This. If they want to live comfortably they'd go in a sport that pays more. Only those with love for the sport would do Olympic weightlifting
Anyone else here find that breaking in the Nike Romaleos was a total pain in the ass?
>>37763433
when you get to actual impressive weight that won't work anymore. do you ever see anyone Fsing above two plate do that? don't be an autist
What is wrong with her form trips goys??
>>37764947
nothing, but her boyfriend's eyebrows are awful
>>37765022
he looks like he's 30
>>37765103
he does cross fit.
I had a million dollar idea and I still do, and I am in the makes of it. It is a weightlifter wiki, primarily devoted to listing all of the great athletes in this sport, their achievements, lifting style and training methodologies. You will be able to search for weightlifters by nationality, weight class, their level, height, lifting style, methodologies, etc.
This is a project me and some others will be pursuing. If you are interested in any way, meaning if yoi want to help in any way, whether it be supplying information, helping us gather information, organizing it or forming the website, or simply wanting more information, or even if you want to follow along on the projec, you can contact me or Commisar on WeChat (we are the leaders of the project). Our IDs are "blueshoos" and "commisar9" respectively. Thank you.
If fronk is here just know that I love u
hey you guys want me to keep writing about doping?
https://pentupwl.wordpress.com/2016/07/01/doping/
i didnt source all the materials yet
>>37765382
Fronk ded.
>>37765422
im not even close to finishing this btw
>>37765448
sorry if there is grammatical mistakes i wrote on phone
???????
>>37765426
No he just forgot how to login.
>>37765467
try again
https://pentupwl.wordpress.com/
>>37765490
it will most likely be set to private again after today so i can work on it.
Assuming i just did Incline bench, and handstand push-ups would i be able to OHP a decent amount? Will my spine be able to withstand the compression? What if i squat heavy as well?
>>37765238
As if commie is doing this with you
I have good info to add tho my coach has a wealth of info from old russia
>>37765422
Interesting but surprised u mention var that's not really been a main drug of any wide doping program
>>37765610
doing both those exercise will most likely help but if you dont train the OHP itself it probably will go up slower.
>>37765517
Wada actually watch the piss come out your dick
What about injecting someone else's urine into ur bladder
>>37765656
i think deca is more common than var but idk
>>37765681
>What about injecting someone else's urine into ur bladder
i never heard this one before.
i was told by knsu team leader that some take ampules of something before drug testing tho
>>37765238
good idea
wish i knew about it before now tho
hope it's not a joke
>>37765702
Stanozolol is the most common one still I think, or maybe it's just easiest to detect
Probably a lot of peptide use these days too I heard there's only two labs that can test for peptides
>>37765490
the only thing i can see is your post about quitting
nothing about the dopiung
>>37765665
How could i get the best of the 3?
>>37765708
I am serious, and it's a project I plan to spend the summer working on.
It's not so much that I want to help /owg/ (although that's part of it), but I'd like to contribute to the sport and create a database that can be used to study the methodologies, techniques, mindsets and substances that have created such incredible weightlifters.
>>37765638
I'd love to chat with you then. But please realize that I don't want unsubstantiated information, and I wont be comfortable including information without quality sourcing. Ideally, all the information would be completely irrefutable, but we do not live in an ideal world.
I am considering on the site having 'ratings' for information, that will tell the reader just HOW irrefutable the information is.
22/m, don't compete but might in the future (highest would probably be univ nationals).
has anyone run D-AA? thinking of getting trying it. i know it won't be a full on cycle, but i don't want to go down that route either.
have a doc apt on tuesday to ask for t/dhea levels
>>37765825
i made it private again ill publish again after i work more on it
>>37765792
>Probably a lot of peptide use these days too I heard there's only two labs that can test for peptides
I dont know about that im sure there are more who can test for that but idk
>or maybe it's just easiest to detect
if it was the easiest to detect i think people would stop using it. so its either its not as detectable as we know or its really useful that people keep using it.
for Kazakhstan i think they were just not expecting the strict doping test btw not this stupid #politics debate on reddit
>>37765838
for incline and ohp i was told to do 5x5 idk if you want a special program for it tho
>>37765907
test boosters usually dont work and they might contain substance that might be illegal
>>37765853
Iwrp
>>37765971
Stanozolol is one of the most effective drugs to increase strength with little mass and weight gain so it makes sense it's so popular
The problem with peptides and sarms are they're so new so detection is poor
>>37765971
cmon man, did you even read my post?
>>37766108
how useful is peptides and sarms? it seems americans already got busted with sarms but those guys might just be dumb
it looks like its promising tho
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/312/2/546.full.pdf
but idk if it will replace anything because of the mild result
>>37766160
>How could i get the best of the 3?
can you elaborate
>>37766276
oh shit, this was re D-AA.
>>37765907
https://examine.com/supplements/d-aspartic-acid/
any effects will be very small, its p cheap tho so no harm in trying it
switched back to classics focus for my comp soon. classics were taking a big hit from squat focus
today i did 112/130 S T R A P L E S S
first time doing sn without straps in a while, never done that much without em. pressed out tho
jerk was feeling strong but lockout looked bad on 130
missed 140 clean cause i got on toes and got greedy and added weight anyway
gonna have strapped 120 sn and no strap 150 cj before next comp tho
gotta go squat now brb
microRNA might be what the WADA calls new doping procedures
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27348309
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27348309
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26663194
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25695389
>>37766564
You're a fucking nerd omg...
>>37766619
discovering new things makes my lady parts tingle
>>37766630
omg the study is recent too
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0155248
>>37762638
just dropped some acid would this make me lift like lu xiaojun
>>37769188
congrats, you have unlocked faggot mode
240 deadlifts 120 snatch from blocks 115 snatch today
100 Snatch, 115 Clean and Jerk. Shit day for cleans, decent for snatch.
Weightlifting is fun and everyone should do it.
>>37766389
>small
but an increase in test is an increase in test. are we talking negligible increase? or, at least recover-slightly-better increase?
Can i just say i love you all? Not just you guys but everyone on 4chan, lift is so simple yet complex, but here is where ive felt at home so i just want to say TY.
>>37761276
You know you want to get gang raped by a bunch of poverted criminals.
>>37761866
Why are you parallel squatting? That defeats the purpose of the front squat. Also, do yourself a big favour and don't lean forward when you tack that weight. That's a fucking disaster waiting to happen. Walk up to the rack and squat the bar into the rack. That's the safest way.
>>37771377
Is that not what you're supposed to be doing? Are you proposing he bends his back or leans forward on purpose? What are you getting at?
>>37771436
I think you may have misunderstood my post, or perhaps vice versa. In a front squat, your torso is upright because the barbell is resting on your delts. If you lean forward, one of two things may happen. The bar may roll off your delts and onto the floor, meaning you lost controll of the bar, or it might break your fingers if you don't bail out properly. It appears that he leans forward abd allows the bar to fall into the rack in an uncontrolled manner. What he should have done was remain upright throughout the racking proceds, approached the rack and in a controlled manner, lower the bar into the rack.
How good is the Klokov video for form?
I don't know how I am supposed to practice tech without making my squats shit afterwards?
So guys, I really want to learn because I haven't been trying hard enough. There someone else that my coach coaches who already has like a 55kg snatch and 90kg squat after a few months.
I was really trying but just never got anywhere, for example, my coach taught that in a snatch at the start position, I should be very far over bar and sitting at the bottom with chest up and back arched with no tension since my hip crease is below knee.
However, my legs are long as fuck so it's hard to move them out of the way and I see videos of people saying that I should get very tight at the start, even with hips higher than knees? Which is it?
>>37772091
>How good is the Klokov video for form?
It has some good tips, but you really aren't ready to do the lifts just after it. I don't like the way he teaches the second pull.
>I don't know how I am supposed to practice tech without making my squats shit afterwards?
You don't have to squat your best numbers to keep them progressing.
> that I should get very tight at the start, even with hips higher than knees?
If you are a beginner its better to go with a static start rather than dynamic. So yeah, get tight and your hips should be over your knees, or nearly at the same level as your knees depending on leverages
Watch cal strength, klokov and alexey torokhtiy (i can't remember how you spell it) videos, and combine all of them to get a better vision about those lifts. There are many ways to teach / do them
>>37772200
Will look at again, thanks. I just didn't know, my coach does it sorta Chinese style so knees very far over and hips very low, but I just cannot get tight at all doing this since my femurs are very long so I need hips slightly higher than knees to get tight.
>>37772200
>Watch cal strength
lmao
>>37772607
Its not that bad really, if you don't let it be all and everything you know about tech
>>37764947
she's not squatting on muh dick. that's what's wrong.
I'm a noob with horrible tech and I think I might be able to fix some of it, I just realised I was relying on my ankle extension and forcing it to happen rather than it being a byproduct.
I know you guys shit on cal strength but I just watched David(?) snatch and realised it's pretty slow and controlled but very fast as soon as it contacts him. I have been pulling it very fast from my knee to my hip to make contact which I see now was the wrong place to be fast and maybe why it was always going around me instead of me going around the bar.
My tech is pretty shit right now so I'm really working on it and dropped weight until it's flawless.
Would I be okay to do snatch and CJ like 6x week considering it's very light because I want to focus a lot on my technique?
I just squat and press for my strength right now. Just for comparison, I am unsure of my FS max but it's about 120kg or something and my BS is 150kg. I am only snatching 30kg and cleaning 50kg right now with mediocre technique so I really want to focus on it.
>>37773666
>dropped weight until it's flawless.
Haha that'll take just few years if you're good
>Would I be okay to do snatch and CJ like 6x week considering it's very light because I want to focus a lot on my technique?
I don't recommend it, you just build bad habits and sooner or later start to get frustrated / lose interest. Its better to have few quality sessions a week when you're beginning.
>>37766748
what's stopping people from using rnase on their samples? iirc its rnase is cheap and a few grains are enough to cleave everything to shit.
Fucking Kek did anyone see Gregor's trampoline fail?
>>37766461
My man. I think I have 125 on Sunday easily
>>37773666
>Would I be okay to do snatch and CJ like 6x week considering it's very light
yes
do strength movements 3-4 times a week. in a very loose order of importance that should include push press, squat (front and back), pull (snatch and clean grip), and presses.
if you really focus, study your lifts, have a good eye, and have a goal for every training session, you could be lifting 100/120 within a year or two.
you should load up the bar and see how your classics look with more weight every once in a while, it's hard to pinpoint or reveal issues using very light weight.
wait, did you mean your maxes are 30/50 or that's what you're using as your light weight to practice technique?
hi guys i just talk to nike employees and they said the romaleos 3 is coming out on october to december
this is fresh off the press
What's the name of that guy who threw the snatch at the judges and is on the evil scale on that picture
>>37777604
>>37777604
>>37777623
but they look ugly.
>>37777610
Velichko cholakov
>>37777623
T-thanks babe
Courtney is actually an Indian dude
How do I know if I've got good proportions?
I feel like my legs are 90% femur when I look at world-class weightlifters.
>>37778479
>muh proportions
They only matter for *your* positions.
You are not going to go to the Olympics. You probably won't even go to Nationals. This is a hobby. If you are already looking for excuses as to why you aren't fit for this hobby, you probably shouldn't be engaging in it.
>>37778510
Shit nigger I'm obviously going to keep lifting it was just a question.
>>37764488
Agreed. For australia one of the only two people that qualified for the Olympics was Tia Claire Toomey, a crossfitter.
>>37764885
No I found them very easy to break in
>>37764947
It seems like she's not pushing her hips forward properly on the way up. Looks very strange.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHX7l42hDCg/
could i get a form check lads? want to make sure i dont snap my shit up thanks
Why do people hate the jump cue so much?
I see nothing wrong with it.
>>37778775
Jumping is INEFFICIENT.
Think about it. You're raising your center if mass which is converting your muscular energy into gravitational potential energy. When your feet hit the floor, all that energy invested by raising your mass is wasted (but it makes a cool sound hehe).
So in ideal technique, your center of mass doesn't raise when you extend, and as much muscular energy goes into the bar as is possible.
Plus, in raising your center of mass in theory you'll have to do more work when you pull under since you have to lower your center of mass more.
Tl;dr, it's inneficient lad.
>>37778885
What if I really like the cool sound?
>>37777242
Yep doing those right now. I meant they are my 'maxes' that I can do over and over. I can do 30x3 or 30x1 but never higher for 1. Maxes due to very bad technique, not strength.
I am going to focus on my technique a lot, should I keep the lifts controlled and do them fully or break them down?
>>37779210
Depends lad. You'll have to learn to do the full lifts sometime though, best not to postpone it longer than you have to.
Simplest way though is: If you feel you need to split it up, do it. If you don't, don't.
e.g. if the first pull throws off your extension, probably a good idea to isolate them desu. If it's np though and you just suck all around, don't bother.
Probably best rn to isolate them I think. Thinking about too much stuff to fix in technique at once will probably fuck uo even he best lifters.
Post a video lad. Come on.
>>37779335
I'll post this week, my technique is severely fucked. I'm going to see if I can improve it by slowing it down and working on timing too.
Its stupid stuff like my best snatch is 30kg but I have done a crude hang power snatch with 45kg.
>>37778479
Worry about mobility more than proportions
You can make changes to start pos and pull and catch to negate proportions if your mobility on point
>>37778587
Hold plate in front of you til ur strong enough to use a women's bar
Don't look down
Extend back more
>>37771238
lol faggot
>>37778885
i like this
how often do you overhead squat?
>>37779676
hardly ever.
>>37779585
hehe :3
>>37780016
>>37780048
>>37780107
are you bullying me!
is this bullying!?
>>37780140
w2c form?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFXROXpikqf
I am a noob and for some reason I cant transfer the force to the bar, I have no idea why. It either bangs my legs and doesn't move anywhere or it brushes my legs and barely moves up at all.
How do I transfer force so that the bar moves up/floats? I'll get a vid, but tips are appreciated.
>>37779697
this seems to be the most common answer. are they worthwhile?
>>37780591
besides getting used to being in the bottom position of the snatch they're pretty much a meme
>>37780217
>>37780639
MODS
>>37780634
lol fuck. i don't have access to a wl gym for 2 months so they're all i can do really
does anyone take a scientific approach to monitoring training performance? most specifically, i'm interested in whether any weightlifters use HRV hard/software to monitor their performance.
>>37781126
i'm pretty sure all wl teams do these
you can see on some klokov videos they have one platform that's wired and has cameras on it
china also has the same thing going on
>>37781163
of course elite national teams do this. wondering if any of you (that is, amateurs) do this? i'm still researching, but hrv sounds promising.
It's coming lads.
>>37780639
>>37781718
whats this
>>37781674
>elite national teams do this
you asked if ANY do it
i just told you that
don't give me an attitude
>>37781908
you're right, my post was p ambiguous. i was referring to anyone 'here.' oops.
sorry senpai
>>37780639
Ohhhh yeah muffin
I had good trenins 2day
And u???
Pretty much secured my qualifier total, all I need to do now is to not do anything stupid like bomb
>>37782133
what are your thoughts on overhead squat?
>>37782243
Useless unless you squat jerk
If you squat jerk you're a dummi
>>37782461
ffs. why do so many people like greg everett and klokov recommend them then?
>>37782526
Klokov doesn't recommend them. He recommends front squats and snatches.
>>37782461
>If you squat jerk you're a dummi
takano literally told me this. dropped stats from worlds, 2% of lifters squat jerked, and two of them bombed.
>>37781718
He was originally from albania
>>37764947
Butt wink. Also looks like the weight is slightly too heavy so coming out of the whole starts using back to compensate.
Doesn't look too bad for a 1RM.
why isnt clarence posting any vids anymore lads
is he cycling off?
>>37781718
>173cm
>85kg
I t-thought weight classes were essentially height classes
When clearing my knees for the first pull is there a better cue than knees back? Should I be pushing close to my heels or all the way back on my heels?
Do you pull straight up or slightly towards you? Because right now I seem to pull directly up and try to move myself around it.
>>37783638
Didn't he say after his last vid that he's going to take a break (like 6 months)? Probably gives time for some old injuries to heal / body to recover from his crazy shit volume.
lads when I squat down cold the end of my quad tendon near the knee hurts
when I warm up and stretch this goes away, does this just mean that I have tight quads?
>>37783638
He's back at Hogwarts for a semester.
>>37783793
Feel the weight on your quads and your quads doing the work. My coach made me do fucking slow first pull to really feel the burn
>>37783827
Ah ok then thanks for that. My weights been way too far back, haven't felt my quads at all.
>>37783892
Weight on midfoot is the key, don't get too heel heavy at the beginning
How to get deep in snatch?
I can't even get deep with bar, I always catch in in power stance but I can squat deep?
>>37784104
Mobility?
>>37784136
Probably, I just didn't know it was possible since I can overhead squat deep but not snatch deep?
>>37784104
You don't know how to get under the bar. Its typical for beginners, you try to pull the bar up rather than get under it.
Try this tech exercise:
Rise on toes and pull the bar up, like you would at the end of clean / snatch pull. From this position, drop / slide your feet and pull (more like drop in this situation, because the weight is so light) yourself under the bar.
>>37782578
Klokov is a sellout mediocre shill. What athletes has he produced? He is in it for the money and that's it. I'm sick of all the klokov cum gargling on this board.
>>37784247
lol
>>37783688
What would the optimum weight be for someone who's 173cm?
I'm currently ~73kg and started off wanting to stay at 69 because "I didn't want to get too big" and look fat. Now I just want to lift good.
>>37783115
He is an ethnic Greek tho
>>37782133
What is the total
Why are you so cagey with numbers
Is it cos u embarassed
>>37783165
Literally no buttwink
That squat was quick
You need to shut the fuck up boy
>>37784104
>>37784136
Your body allowing you to descend into a overhead squat slowly and securely isn't the say as getting there quick
You need the mobility but also to train speed into that position to sort of teach your body to do it quickly
Snatch balance for this
>>37784347
depends a bit on your build but 85kg lean
Just took a vid, the bar is coming way out in front when I start my second pull, reasons why it could be? It's like I'm not leaning back enough.
Can't upload rn
>>37784884
your first pull is fucked up, and you end up in a wrong position to start the second pull
>>37784954
Please tell me i can fix this with a broomstick or something since it's only 25kg and I fucking hate my form.
Can I just do hundred of broomstick reps and record myself?
>>37784994
Totally, its just positions you're learning after all. But if you can't get a coach, atleast read about the positions / form, then watch tons of videos and then do the recording and training
>>37784994
Pls respond my form is so fucking fucked and the only coach near me hasn't even said anything. I want to kill myself right now.
I am going to start over completely at home with a stick or something and record every session because my coach isn't even a real coach.
Will doing controlled reps with pic or something help?
My technique is just atrocious even with a bar.
>>37785003
Ok thanks, I have but I don't really have the eye. I'll record everything and look over it and post here maybe.
Do you know if it's better to break it up and go slow first or just do complete lift but slow down a lot so I feel the tension?
I kind of understand the lifts but doing it is a different issue and my coach really doesn't even see the issues. So time to cocoon with a stick for an hour a day.
>>37785021
Dude, when i was learning, we had 1 or 2 sessions a week, and i learned well. I think its better to relax and take it slow. If you go nuts about tech at the beginning, your journey won't last long. Its a loooooong (endless) journey to have perfect form. Give yourself time, and you will have more energy to really learn and see what's there to fix. Also, you don't have to fix everything at the same time. My coach focused only on 1 or two things a session.
But yes, definitely break the lifts to parts. First start from power position, this will take many sessions. Then start from top of your knee. Again, many sessions. Lastly, start from the floor.
>>37784491
Nope
His name isnt even greek
>>37785059
I've been doing about 3 sessions a week with my coach for a few months and it isn't not improving at all which is why I mentioned it. :(
Yeah I will try to break them apart until they are much better at each position. I'll get a stick and go through them very controlled. I have read some articles like Dan Johns about how he wished he was more patient and used a stick for months instead until it was flawless with a stick. Mine isn't.
>>37785092
I don't think you can learn with the stick, since its TOO light. I have a good clean grip, but i can't do it with a stick since its so light. It won't rest well on shoulders because it doesn't weight anything, and you can't really learn to "slam" it like a empty barbell and have the sound as feedback. You won't learn to get tight, push shoulderblades / engage lats and so on, because its air. And you can't put any energy to stick, like you would on a barbell.
Look this for example, impossible with a stick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PKsKJvFQwQ
>>37785129
Oh I didn't think about that, I actually have a bar at home that I can use.
Do you think it would be very good to go through Torokhtiy progressions for 30-60mins a day for a few weeks with only the bar?
>>37785178
You don't have to be afraid of the weights really. And i don't see the point in going cocoon mode at your home learning tech with a bar for weeks. Why not just go to the gym, do some tech work and then work your squats, presses, pulls etc. Its not like you have to be good when you go to the gym.
You are so neurotic
>>37785219
I already do squats and presses etc 3x week and have decent numbers but I spend 30min going to the gym where the platform may be used so that's why I mentioned tech at home.
My tech is awful even with 30kg.
>>37784501
It's so that nobody has proof of my lifts so that I pretend to be as weak as I like
Qualifying total was 180
>>37785012
Post some webms pal
>>37785059
>If you go nuts about tech at the beginning, your journey won't last long. Its a loooooong (endless) journey to have perfect form
Took me about a year :^)
>>37785946
I will get some clips and upload, but it's all v bad which is why I am going to start again and practice everyday from videos and then post. I mean I can probably hit a 155k squat right now but can't even do a clean snatch with a bar and 30 feels very heavy just because of the bad tech.
Do you think broomstick/pvc is useless? Should I just stick with the bar?
What took you a year btw?
>>37785988
Broomstick is only good for practicing pulling positions, otherwise it's too light
>>37785946
Well ye form can be perfect, i meant more like perfecting the lift itself. You can always increase something. Tightness, speed, transition, balance, feet work and so on
But whatever, you're just a fat nerd in moms basement pretending to be oly lifter
>>37785081
Watch the fucking interview on atg you mong. He's from the part of Albania that was historically Greek.
>Name=ethnicity now
Fucking retard
>>37783824
You cheeky bastard, you made me spit my coffee. I love you.
>>37784347
at 170cm i should be atleast 77
i look tiny at 69
getting stronger is goat, it doesnt rly matter if you "look fat" at 85kg cause its gona be mostly muscle by that time and you can just cut a couple kg and look good
>>37783165
lmao you're retarded
Snatches today
70
80
90
100
110
121
125kg
>>37787516
are you back in action now?
So i've been using the program you guys suggested for 2.5 months
Mon: Snatch, snatch pull, + core and back
Tue: C&J, Front squat, Push press, core and back
Wed: -
Thu: C&J, clean pull, core and back
Fri: Snatch, Back squat, press, core and back
Weekend: -
Now i'd like to change it a bit. How about this?
Mon: Snatch, C&J, Back squat
Tue: Power clean + push press, core + back
Wed: Snatch, C&J, Front squat
Thu: Power snatch, core + back
Fri: Snatch, C&J, Back squat
Weekend: off
Core is like ab wheel + plank, or hanging leg raises + russian twists. Back is chin/pull ups or GHR / back extensions.
>>37787836
>implying the spinal erectors aren't a core muscle
WEW
W E W
W E W
W E W
W E W
W E W
>>37788065
But its a deep back muscle breh
Guys, new to Snatch here, getting a problem:
When Overhead squatting I can't get parallel without heel coming up. This isn't an ankle problem as I go ATG for every other squat I do.
Is this a balance thing, shoulder thing? Anyone else done this?
>>37788170
You proably do those ATG squats with butt wink
>>37788199
Not impossible, but I don't think that would explain this.
I really can't go low at all without spreading my knees really far and I feel like the bar wants to fall forwards.
Hehehe
>>37785902
Lier.
Why u always meme about 180
Just say your numbers fucking mong
>>37788388
I hope you stay motivated with this, great contributing man.
>>37787516
who needs meniscus anyway
>>37783072
do you train at his gym in woodland hills?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHaP2S5jST5/
In case anyone wants to see my 125 snatch.
>>37788763
that bottom position is disgoostang
>>37788779
Ya it was a save. I'll upload my 121 in a bit... 121 was nice af
>>37788763
where do you live
>>37765853
I would be interested in doing something like this, tbqh.
I am a cs student, dont have too much experience with web shit but need more to do.
>>37788821
he's canadian, you creepy fuck
>>37788821
Edmonton.
>>37788842
nah man I recognized that gym thats why I asked
>>37788851
>Tfw workout at the same gym as Durkz.
Never see him there though
>>37788763
>https://www.instagram.com/p/BHaP2S5jST5/
that helicopter spin
gj tho senpai
I like this chick quite a bit 2bh
>>37788891
I only lift on weekends there.
>>37789050
Jesus christ I'm sick of her. Fucking instagram sloot.
>>37789050
Mediocre technique, needs work. Lays back too much at the top of the snatch. Also huge attention whore.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHaUK53jh0n/
121 snatch if anyone wants to see. It's way nicer than the 125 lol
>>37765238
i don't have wechat, so i can't contact. but i'd be willing to help with graphic design/brand identity type stuff.
techworn at gmail if interdasted
>>37788668
ye. i might have talked to you the other day.
>>37789264
I might have fucked ur momlast night desu
>>37789264
>talking to people at the gym
Too much 4 me 2bqh
>>37789302
xDDDDDDD
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHSvMe_hMii/?taken-by=hookgrip
Almost a ticket to snap city famalam
>>37789264
oh yeah, that's you
I'm taking a break from lifting for 2 months tbqh, might come back for some form stuff in late july so ye
>>37789428
yah prob best not to aggravate shit further. idk if ill come back after this month. it nice and all, but it takes up so much of my time to come in 5x/week from 4-7pm. leaving me little time to do career-related stuff...
>>37761866
lower fagit!!!
>>37789380
kek they got some nice vids
https://www.instagram.com/p/-SHkOVCkwC/?taken-by=hookgrip
the fuck is Lu doing m8s?
>>37789503
>lurk these threads because wl is just nice to watch
>this gets posted
nigger what the fuck
>>37789503
m'judges
>>37789742
tricking other countries into rotator cuff injuries lal
http://weightlifters.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weightlifters
C O N T R I B U T E
BIGGEST ARCHIVE OF ATHLETES IN ANY SPORT EVER
>>37789867
In addition to what Commissar posted please see the homepage: www.weightlifters.wikia.com
Every page except the one for Pyrros Dimas currently has no text, and only an infobox with a photo. One way you could help is by doing some writing for those pages. References would be greatly appreciated but are not required (I hope to have all the claims on the site validated someday).
We also definitely just need more pages for weightlifters. So please feel free to create new pages following a similar format to the ones for other lifters. Include a nice photo, relevant information in the infobox, correct categorization and text. In addition, we don't want any random lifters on this page. e.g. no "Matt King" page or "Isaac Deliuge", that's not really acceptable. However, a page such as "Mattie Whore" or whatever her name is would be acceptable, since I believe she competes at least on the national level and she is very well known on Instagram and the internet in general.
Thank you.
>>37789503
>https://www.instagram.com/p/BHSvMe_hMii/?taken-by=hookgrip
Kek. MDUSA is such a fucking joke.
>>37789966
they've been defunct for a while now, what you talkin bout
>>37789964
>>37789867
I highly doubt anybody will use this. There are other more reputable websites not to mention nobody is gonna use a fake wiki with shit tons of ads. Also why would anybody use a site made by 15 year old and a guy who has dicks pics
N 4chan
>>37789966
lol being jealous of an ugly neckbeard. post your 500 lbs clean and jerk faggot
>>37789966
https://www.instagram.com/p/68jGGoCk9X
>This is the heaviest C&J by an American athlete since the 2004 Olympic Games! He is the #1 ranked US male headed into the World Championships in Houston TX on Nov 20-29.
KEK
>>37790181
>>
lol umad american?
>>37790027
>I highly doubt anybody will use this. There are other more reputable websites
More reputable, perhaps. But there are no websites that act as a compilation of information on every significant weightlifter. Wikipedia is just not up to par. You must also realize that a Wiki does not exist itself to provide quality information, but to reiterate quality information in a more concise, easy to search format. Not only reiterate, but compile it to create an overview. The result is a site where you can gather information on weightlifters in considerably less time, and view in a way more friendly to the eyes. If you're not satisfied with the information? You view the references. You want more detail than what was provided? Check the references. There isn't a reference? Take the information very lightly.
>not to mention nobody is gonna use a fake wiki
How do you define fake? It LOOKS like a Wiki. It FUNCTIONS as a wiki. It has ads unlike some other wikis (but this is not universally true). It is only superficially different than some wikis, and I see no problem with that. If it's functionally the same, how is it different? Also note that this is only TEMPORARY. It's set up in the meantime. We actually have some funding coming our way to set up our own personal URL and a non-cookie cutter Wiki that we own. When that time comes, which shouldn't be too long, all the pages will be transferred to the new wiki.
>shit tons of ads.
Most people have ad blockers these days. Clearly you don't. This setup is only temporary as well. Viewing ads are the price you pay for quality information, or any information really, these days. I can't argue against this too much though, I'm not a fan of ads myself, but the ads ARE for a good cause.
>Also why would anybody use a site made by 15 year old and a guy who has dicks pics
N 4chan
I wont say anything about the dick pics (other than the fact that they're not me...), or of Commisar's age (why does it matter? (Cont in next post).
>>37790918
Continued
There's 15 year olds who have done more than your life than you ever will, and people twice your age who have done less lad. Who cares.
As well, I don't think you understand what a Wiki is. It's a place where users edit and create pages together for information. They discuss how to best format the pages.
The owners of a Wiki don't create everything, the COMMUNITY does. It doesn't matter who's created or owns the Wiki. All that matters is the community. A Wiki is only as good as it's community, and how well informed the owners are do not mean mean.
>HE WAS GOING TO BE THE 5TH LIFTER TO TAKE HOME 3 OLYMPIC GOLDS
>GODS HELP ME I'M SO FUCKING MAD
Fuck the IWF
your time would be better spent making a like /plg/ has. nobody here is going to look at your shitty wiki when i can google dimas or whoever in 2 seconds and have more information without your ads clogging my screen up
>>37791019
a like /plg/ has?
The point is not big weigtlifters, really.
The point is less well know lifters. An example I forgot to include in previous lost is Zlatan Vanev. Well known, but proper information is VERY scarce on the net and hard to get, if not impossible. For example, many sources say he is 185cm tall. However, this is definitely not the case. We have actually contacted a person who worked with Zlatan and he will provide a satisfactory answer.
Already, there is unique information on the wiki that cannot be found elsewhere. Information that would involve watching through hours of videos and interviews. Not only that, but discussions that don't really exist elsewhere on the internet, at least not to the same depth, such as training methodologies and more subtler details that make be overlooked.
I just don't think you understand the scope and true goal of our project, and for that I pity you Anon faggot.
>>37790987
So you other people to build your website instead of you guys doing anything?
If you truly believe in that why dont you set up a wikipedia account and do it from there.
>>37791253
From the looks of it looks like a bunch of underaged kids wants to build a website so they can feel important.
>>37791253
http://powerliftinggeneral.com/
something resembling this would be more useful for people in this general.
>Already, there is unique information on the wiki that cannot be found elsewhere
I've looked through your wiki and it consists of maybe 10 minutes spent on google.
>>37791309
>>37791309
Delete this.
>>37791333
Lad.
Wikis are something that grow FOREVER.
We are not even near finished.
We have barely just begun.
We are simply crying out for help.
Also, that site is useless. Nobody uses it.
>i le lift mire than u hehe im too of teh leaderboard xDDD
fucking E B I N desu
We will NEVER imitate PLG
>>37791362
>leaderboards
>links to lifting pdfs
pretty much complete and actually useful
>>37791362
crying out for help because you're two kids that don't want to do any of the work.
Their website looks a lot more useful for powerlifters than yours is to any of us
