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A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults, bullying, and shitposting to a minimum.
>Doping news
http://www.allthingsgym.com/retests-olympic-doping-samples/
http://www.iwf.net/category/anti-doping-news/
>How to Snatch w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X
>How to Clean & Jerk w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy
>Pas notes about the Chinese System
http://chinfl.blogspot.sk/2016/02/notes-from-china.html
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
>Everett Basic Novice Program
http://imgur.com/pCKsrOM
http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/131/Starter-Program-for-Catalyst-Athletics-Online-Workouts/
>Takano Example Programs [CIII, CII, CI, CMS]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8AqZyApAyeSx-AoX3drVwpQEAJzVDvAJsE9PKoPwZw/edit?usp=sharing
>Mobility stuff
http://www.catalystathletics.com/video/section/2/Mobility-Flexibility-Training-Prep/
>Useful videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
>Helpful blogs
yashathoughts.com
chinfl.blogspot.com
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
>>37723410
First for trappy's mandick
>>37723410
Lapikov seems to pull the bar higher than some lifters to me
Maybe it's cos he's tall it looks this way idk
Not a bad thing either wayy
>>37723790
He hits at the hips for the snatch, which is what everyone pretty much does.
Can any of you do HSPU like klokov? How do you guys program them?
Why are drop snatches meme?
i did 170x2 bs this mornin
>>37723836
if we're talking in kg it's kinda neat if you weight like 80 kg or less
>>37723826
Just program it like you would the overhead press.
Drop snatches are completely fine.
>>37723822
Eh that's not what a high or long pull refers to friendo
>>37723853
Obviously it's kilos mate this is a weightlifting thread
>>37723853
my hamstring hurts
@106kg bodyweight
>>37724177
W-when will it be my turn
>>37724177
Top kek, weak
Back to plg I go
>>37724553
i'm 85kg you fuck
>>37724177
Esp in that 2nd rep your lifting with your back. Drop the weight.
>>37724753
DYEL spotted
>>37724753
Hello, dyel
>>37724753
have you ever lifted weights?
>>37724753
It sure is summer
>>37725174
le beltless 4pl8 :))))
>>37725193
nice 1x bw man
>>37725304
Le indirect calling people fat roast Xdddddddd
How often do you do you do mobility type stuff? What does it consist of?
I'm still new at this sport, I'm always getting aches and tightness all over. Is this normal for beginners?
>>37725316
u ned 2 lose weight my man
>>37725193
it looks like a pretty good lift, but >>37725327 is not wrong. do it again when you're not 250+ lbs.
>>37725400
>losing weight
TWINKS OUT
>>37725447
Is a trap much different than a twink?
>80kg BW
>100kg strict press
>190kg squat
>can't even into technique for a 1pl8 clean
Kill me
my squat fucking sucks
why the fuck won't it go up?
i failed 117.5x5 today, when i can already bench 107.5x5
should i change to 3x8 instead?
>>37726291
I have the same problem. 2.5 years ago my squat was 5x80kg, and bench was 5x75kg. Now my bench is 5x122.5kg, but squat is only 132.5kg. I have used starting strength, texas method, madcow 5x5, 20rep squat program, upper body / lower splits etc. But my squat always stalls before my bench.
And i don't even really care about my bench.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHpT6fURAhrN1v0QsoHGLlPX1guNeSqCd
This should be added to the "thread list". Very helpful for beginners, and lots of secrets are revealed.
>>37725304
such low hanging fruit, but it makes me laugh everytime
>>37726291
Because you're doing 5x5
>>37723826
>program
r u having le probleme?
come at me lad
you lll be fucking dead kiddo
yiu got jothing 8n me
>>37728392
fit them into a program?
how do i stop my feet from rotating outwards in the split jerk (leading to ian wilson form)
>>37725447
maybe don't lose weight if you're strong and getting stronger but if you're posting a 4pl8 squat proudly and u look like u should be doing 6pl8 then maybe lose some weight.
>>37730435
Durkz am 105 and squat 4plate. How many is needed to be considered stronk
>>37725316
le fatass pretending he isn't genuinely hurt by comments online regarding what he knows is an unhealthy weight that will invariably lead to chronic issues later on in his life
Stupid question, but here i go:
lets say someone had a very, very strong press, and a not so strong squat
would a clean and push press or a power clean and power jerk be accepted as a valid clean and jerk in competition?
lads is this good form?
>>37730821
Pclen and pjerk is fine in comp
Press of any kind is a big nono
>>37730821
pressout rule prohobits that lad
you have to lock it out just with momentum from your lower body and getting under the bar
you cant actually push the bar up if that makes sense, altho when ur getting under the bar and pushing it is pushing the bar up kinda
the rule states as long as youre getting under the bar its there can be movement at the elbows. but once youre not getting under it its a problezm. right babe?
sorry lad im fucikng derunk
>>37731069
you're not me
>>37730916
Kill youreelf ugly manlet scum
>>37730579
AT LEAST double bodyweight. Preferably 2.5x.
It's kind of an arbitrary rubric, though. How much can you snatch and cj?
Can someone point me towards the best guide they know of for Snatches?
Most of the videos I've seen, trying to replicate their form just messes me up. I get the best results (both form and weight moved) out of just squatting low to the bar, taking a snatch grip, and jumping as hard as I can while flinging the bar up like I'm doing a Keg Toss.
But uh, that's...not the right way to do them, is it
>>37732264
the OP. How to Snatch w/ Klokov
>>37732264
torokthiy snatch
>>37732278
I think I found my issue--the hip-thrust thing that he's advising against so strongly.
Thanks, sorry for not checking the OP first, those links weren't there when I popped in last a few weeks ago.
>>37732583
>this is for sex
>this is for snatch
classic klokov
>>37732666
>elbows MAXIMUM forward
>bar MAXIMUM close
>hips MAXIMUM contact
>elbows MAXIMUM up
He's so cute
>>37730861
Is it wrong that I actually want him to die or be horribly disabled and disfigured? There's just something about those types that would rather have negative attention than no attention that makes me hope they encounter all the worst pains in life. I think it has to do with the way they try to make everyone around them responsible for their loneliness; the primal, childish narcissism of the "waaaaaaaaaaa, look at me, I'm lonely, focus on me" wailing into everyone's face. I don't think they should even be euthanized, they should be stoned painfully to death as a message that society doesn't need those who refuse to bear the most universal form of human suffering without trying to dump it into someone else's lap. I also feel guilty, because the first time this faggot posted on /owg/ I gave him feedback that may have been enough to convince him to make this his feeding/shitting grounds. I'm sorry, guys.
So if i start weightlifting at the age of 21, will i be slow forever? I don't have any significant sports background. Its not like i want to be the best or anything, but how important it is for speed to start at an young age?
>>37733940
some people are naturally explosive. try to see how high you can jump. and speed isn't the be all and end all for weightlifting.
>>37733940
>>37734051
A lot of it is technique and mobility, and positional strength related too. I'm naturally a very good jumper and sprinter, but I'm not natural at Olympic lifting at all so I look slow as fuck during classics. Speed will come with time though, it may take longer for some. As I get comfier with the positions it's as if my body let's me get into them quicker.
>>37733940
>how important it is for speed to start at an young age?
being born with the right genetics is the most important for speed. you can improve technique and strength to a large degree, but speed (in the sense of explosiveness) is something you're born with. the good oly lifters aren't fast because they do the oly lifts, they're good oly lifters because they're fast.
>>37733940
its a fast twitch muscle fibre thing, some people are born with a tonne of potential for fast twitch muscle others not so much, i think past the age of like 12 or something its very difficult to improve on the amount though
>>37734216
>>37734250
It's important to state dominance of fast twitch won't automatically make you a good oly lifter either. Most sprinters would make poor oly lifters due to proportions etc yet are incredibly fast twitch
>>37734385
most sprinters would make good oly lifters, look at the colombian lifters they all have sprinter builds
facts is chinese build will always be superior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Dl1o9fIz0
What do you guys think about yelling/grunting while lifting? Absolutely barbaric, or acceptable?
>>37734490
Minimal grunting can be acceptable at max weights if the effort causes some air to escape your valsalva
Straight up yelling like the guy in that video is just autistic
>>37734452
It's not only build though. Most sprinters are naturally very tight
>>37734521
Whatever helps you lift m8. Pretty sure if you're hitting numbers like that noone will care if you're noisey
The Chinese encourage it.
>>37733940
How about you don't worry about looking for excuses and just work hard?
Could someone please post the picture of the stretching guide and routine?
I'm 29 and I suck at this
So I have decided I'm training for masters worlds 2021
Watch your fucking backs old timers
>>37737185
Hi trappy could you possibly make some Webm of koleacki or however it spelt and maybe nicu vlad too so lanky leg people can look it
Try bby
Is Russia banned from the olympics?
Is there actually any rule for how deep the squats have to be?
Could you technically powerclean&jerk?
>>37738150
No.
Yes.
>>37738228
Neat. Why do people go so low, then? To lower the distance they have to pull the bar?
>>37738342
>To lower the distance they have to pull the bar?
precisely
>>37738342
If you have good tech and mobility which elite lifters do then full variation is far more efficient
>>37738342
Exactly.
You're more limited by the power generation needed to drive the bar up than the squat strength.
>>37735681
Ayy, me too.
Gonna fuckin reck u m8
>>37733736
>>37733736
wew lad kys
>>37738669
See u there m8 prep ur anus for devastation
>>37730647
Maybe 230-250 as a 105
>>37738436
what do you make of the 'weightlifters shouldn't bench because muh scapular mobility' thing
I'm seeing it on ig a lot and it bugs me
>>37739346
meme with no scientific basis
and lots of weightlifters bench https://youtu.be/9F_Db2jsw7c?t=3m38s
>>37739446
yeah ironically the people I've seen bandying it around the most are powerlifters
Which one of the clean and the jerk is the most limiting factor to how much you can lift? Assuming we're talking about pro lifters.
I don't know anything about WL.
>>37739469
People meme too much.
Don't do bench presses or you'll tighten your shoulders.
Don't do squats or you'll injure your knees.
Don't do deadlifts or you'll injure your back.
Don't do behind the neck presses or you'll injure your rotator cuff.
Don't do mixed grip or you'll snap your biceps.
Don't do snatches or you'll break your elbows.
Don't do jerks or you'll snap your shoulders.
Don't do front squats or you'll break your wrists.
Don't let the knees go ahead of the feet or you'll hurt your knees.
Don't do goodmornings or you'll snap your spine.
Don't do crunches or you'll snap your spine.
Don't do widegrip or you'll hurt your rotator cuff.
Don't use belts or you won't develop your core muscles.
Don't use hookgrip or your grip won't get stronger.
Don't use straps when cleaning or you'll break your wrists.
Don't do handstand pushups or you'll break your neck.
The list goes on and on...
>>37739594
>>37739469
I think the meme is mainly stems from amateur lifters who most likely have trash bench form, some sort of pre existing impingement or tightness and a lack of dedication to work that would balance and mobilise
Not many systems would program a standard bench (like a powerlifter style) and not everyone in say Soviet system would do it but if it was needed some may do a closer grip
We have a lad at our gym who has program narrowish grip bench for his elbow health and triceps to help lockout. It's not for big chest but there is benefits. The coach who program him is international coach and lifted under Russian coaches during USSR period
>>37739706
Closegrip is also good for the chest and anterior delts.
>>37739738
Idk to be honest but I know he won't do it just to create a big chest but for the other benefits although he is looking jacked so that is cool for him
>>37739752
Boardshorts has a big chest and most of the time he does closegrip
>>37739568
they're pretty close which makes it interesting. The jerk comes after you expended energy on the clean, which makes it harder in that sense.
There are videos of block jerks above the world record C+J however. Block jerk is when the bar is raised and you just rack it onto your shoulders and go without the clean.
Did a 100 front squat today @84
It's not much but I'm happy.
>>37740109
gj famalam
P I S S
I
S
S
>>37740183
>185kg beltless
first day in the gym huh?
>>37740183
why is your face fatter than before
>>37740241
since my deload i've looked fatter than normal
>>37740241
Water retention from dbol
>>37740309
>dboling for this
>>37740252
you need to cut and start doing some bodybuilding
you're starting to look like a fat shit
>>37740659
who gives a fuck, this is weightlifting
>>37740845
how new are you
bodybuilding is detrimental in weightlifting
why are you guys making fun of blue shoes' form? clarence had bad form when he started aswell
>>37739706
I do cgbp exclusively because wider grip feels ugly and bad for shoulders
and plus, it's a memelift :^)
seriously though wide grip benching is retarded unless you're pl
3x5 or 5x5?
>>37741261
>had bad form
>HAD
w e w
>>37741513
how long has blue man been training
>>37741532
like a year and a half "lifting"
maybe half a year training WL
probably only half a year with truly focused trainf as well
>>37741513
>that poster
A
FUCKING
LEAF
>>37741455
7x5
>>37739346
You don't need to bench anyway, its better to spend the energy on exercises that are related to what you're trying to accomplish.
>>37741573
????????? LOL
>>37741577
u srs? i did 8x5 once and 5x8
>>37739594
the hookgrip thing is actually true. i used to be able to pull 150 double overhand no problem, been using only hook for years and now 140 is difficult
>>37741513
Does shoes post this shit here himself, or is there some hidden goldmine of blueshoes entertainment on instagram?
>>37739594
Meme king/queen complaining about memes
>>37741580
my back is injured right now so I can't do any pulls, classics, or squats
hopefully it will be ok after my holidays and I can get back to it
>>37741728
damn dude you must be really unlucky or you ignore minor injuries until they escalate too often
>>37741651
Trip on blueshoes
>>37741639
both
https://www.instagram.com/blueromaleos/
>>37742052
>>37742041
Wow r u just gonna take that OB?
>>37742041
>>37742052
Stop giving him what he wants
>>37742041
>>37742052
>>37742213
just deletedthe comments and blocked him, no use making fun of someone whos life is already a joke
>>37723410
So is ilya kill forever?
>>37742268
TOP
BANTZ
>>37742268
Lad, the three most prominent /owg/ members hate your fucking guts. Point is, nobody wants you here. I'll let you guess who by the way, hehe.
>>37742323
who?
are we talkin about all time or recently?
>>37742268
Dude you're a fucking ugly manlet who looks like a 10 year old prebuscent little twat. I'll knock that ugly smug cunt twink smirk off your face. You dress like a tumblr Bernie sanders cuck. How's it feel to be the absolute bitch of society. In jail you would be a dindus bottom boi pussy. An hero.
>>37741775
the back problem was weird, it just started out as tightness that wouldn't go away, then I tweaked it deadlifting. Been fucked up every since, going on about 3 months now
>>37742323
>>37742345
I think blue shoes is mad
I can post his high school
this is his youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/thehugsarethedrugs
>>37742345
Fuck off OB is a qt and has 10/10 hair
>>37742323
Hey ob is alright
>>37742484
>bernie cuck tumblr meme hair
shit taste confirmed. go jerk off to twinks on tumblr
>>37742486
you're not prominent and your taste is shit anyway
>>37742534
>bernie cuck
im not a liberal tho lmao
>>37742534
If you apologize to OB I won't post your high school
W E W
>>37742558
I'm not blue shoes. you cuck boi
>>37742534
:^(
>>37742560
>over a year ago
>depressed ob
ive changed i swear
>>37742567
Oh I guess you wouldn't mind then
>>37742577
>depressed
you probably listen to linken park and fallout boy and read homestuck. You're the poster boy for tumblr queers
>>37742587
I can find out who you are right now and then you'll really be fucked for doing that. I warned you
>>37742587
Watch the edges on this guy
>>37742591
no
no
and whats homestuck?
>>37742424
>>37742558
ST JOSEPH SCOLLARD HALL
NIPISSING PARRY SOUND CATHOLIC DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD
WEW KID YOURE FUCKED
HAVE FUN GETTING YOUR ASS RAPED IN JAIL
HOW DOES IT FEEL THAT YOULL NEVER HAVE A GF AS HOT AS OB'S?????
LOL OL LO LO LO LOL
>>37742591
Do it, I'll more excuse to post your informations
>>37742632
I'm not blue shoes you cuck.
>>37742632
eat shit geordil you old injured fgt
i fucked ur mom desu lad
>>37742632
fuck you pas
ur an ugly normie fgt
>>37742618
THICC
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>>37742632
you fuck with jacob kid ill end your miserable existence.
>>37742618
OREGON
R
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>>37742663
F A T T
A
T
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This blue shoes kid lived at 184 Bunker Hill Road in South River, Ontario.
Have fun getting raped, faggot.
Nice dick pic by the way, I think it would look great in your school website.
>>37742640
>>37742641
>>37742660
>>37742672
It's now really obvious that your'e Jacob Brindle aka blueshoes
>>37739594
Is the bench press considered an assitance exercise for weightlifters? I'm not entirely sure how it contributes to the snatch/C&J and I've been thinking of replacing it with dips instead.
>>37742701
you could argue that chest helps stabilize overhead lifts I guess
mostly though it's about triceps. I've been doing cgbp specifically for triceps because takano's doesn't have a dip station, only ring dips which feel weird
This blue shoes kid goes to the YMCA in North Bay, he trains downstairs at the Norsemen & Valkyries weightlifting club.
You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Someone make a Facebook and add people from his school
Send em some of his dick pics and vids
>>37742843
>>37742843
I found his FB lol!
>>37739446
I can't say its a meme, because i immediately see the difference when i bench. I can bench ~140kg, so maybe its a bit different than your bench. It takes several days for me to get my shoulder mobility back, and i should bench atleast 2 times a week so i wouldn't get doms and such a bad tightness
>Just do stretches and mobility
Its not worth it to spend literally hours to get your mobility back, and even still you can have doms if you don't bench regularly
Maybe it works for you, but i wouldn't recommend it
>>37742980
I bench 150kg and my shoulders are fine right now. Probably because I strict press 2 to 3 times a week
>>37742882
why would you do it to some stranger on the internet
>>37743019
So it works for you, but not for me. I do strict press once a week and pushpress once a week. Everytime i have tried bench instead of OHP, i have regretted it afterwards. And now you guys tell me im just imagining things. Fight me.
>>37743049
you can literally tell its blue shoes posting his own info because of the update symbol
>>37743065
Trying to reverse psychology people out of making one I bet
>>37742882
>weak b8
omg! assemble the army!
>>37739446
half the stuff you post has no scientific basis lol
and quite a few of the stuffs you posted here:
>>37739594
does have a proper basis
e.g. BTN press will injure your rotator cuff. BTN press is a bad excercise for most people because MOST people lack the mobility and scapular control to not hurt their shoulders
ur literally retarded, please kill urself itd make my day hehehe
so tired and missing and all my lifts my body is also perpetually tight right now
time for a week off?
i dont think i've had a deload in 2-3 months now
>>37744322
Do it you dummi
Why wouldn't you deload
>>37744403
it felt good not to, i was at my strongest at the tail end of those months that i didnt deload, just this week i start feeling the fatigue catching up to me
also can't sleep straight for more than 4-5 hours and when i wake up i can't sleep no mo senpai
Holy fucking shit this thread got cancerous
Teenagers need to fuck off seriously
>>37744539
Yeah, insomnia is a common side effect of overtraining
Training hard without rest may seem like a good idea while you're doing it but it's a really bad idea in the long run
>>37744644
You keep giving attention to blueshoes, so this is what happens.
>>37744722
this happened to me once on everett's programming :(
heart racing for nearly 24 hours, no sleep, too tired to function
>>37739446
In the Klokov "how to clean" video, he talks about how he broke his wrist when he lost shoulder mobility for a proper front rack position when he was doing tons of bench press, so using Klokov as a source for your argument is pretty ironic. Idiot.
>>37744322
I have a deload every 3 weeks.
>>37742418
You are a walking injury m8
Either you think every little niggle is terrible and are a pussy or you need to hop on some growth and heal your shit
>>37746870
He also almost ruined his entire career from jerking.
His point is that you should stretch and work on mobility, even if you are an advanced lifter like him. Not that you shouldn't do curls or bench press.
>>37742268
kek
>>37742727
do your ring dips pussy
>>37747463
I'm with you on benching not being the devil but the examples of klokov benching are either since he retired or that early one is for the camera, he won't have done a lot of benching at the height of his weightlifting career
>>37740252
need more lolis tBh famlam
>tfw absolutely disgusting thoracic mobility
>>37741455
6x8
>>37747537
clarebear has a 180kg bench video somewhere too
>>37748130
Clarence isn't a competitive lifter rn and hes also on juice
>>37748336
hes got some pretty good lifts tho, and are you implying that dmitry isnt?
>>37723826
fun fact, those aren't leggings, those are meant to be loose fitting tracksuit pants, he's just so big he stretches them out
>>37747463
Trappy, how do i find a cute boyfriend?
Curently using powerperfect 2 with 1.9cm heel. Im considering swithching to something else or raising the heels to 2.5cm. Ice tried another pair at the club and it made me not raise my heels before making contact wich is a big problem for me and it messes up ny timing.
Is it a meme or someone else done this?
>>37748597
PP2 is 2.1 heels.
But yeah if 2.5 feels more comfortable, go for it.
>>37747537
According to himself, he could bench 200x5 and 230x1 before he even retired.
I benched the other day for the first time in months.
Chest is very sore and my shoulders feel like the have suffered. They're in a bad place and stretching is hard.
Suck in that, trapcuntchan.
>>37749227
>I've benched for the first time in months
>Why do I have doms
Not sure if you have ever lifted in your life
>>37749362
The point is it tightened up my shoulders lad. Wasn't worth it.
>>37749484
If you take someone who hasn't done squats for months and put them to do some moderately heavy squats, they will also feel like their legs and hips are tight the next day.
>>37749520
That's a totally different scenario. Squats are very important in weightlifting, benching isn't.
>>37749609
That's besides the point. We're talking about the effects of doing a heavy compound movement that you haven't done in months.
Please leave, blue shoes.
More personal information will be revealed with you don't stop posting here.
I. Will. Ruin. Your. Life.
>>37749895
I find squats tighten up my quads and hip flexors. It sucks, but squats are so important of an assistance exercise that this just has to be accepted, and time has to be spent stretching.
Bench press doesn't provide anything near what squats provide, and it inhibits mobility in the shoulders, which is bad in a sport where shoulder flexibility is very important (probably more important than hip flexibility).
>>37750143
>I find squats tighten up my quads and hip flexors
You're just a genetic dead end, sorry.
>>37741455
3x5 or 5x5 for squats?
>>37748860
I bench around 2plate and some change despite never training bench
Many of the chinese lifters can bench 130-190 with ease depending on bodyweight (all lower than klok) and they bench no more than 2 times a year for fun
The strength is transferred, it's not from direct training
>>37748345
No, I'm implying two non competing lifters who are on juice are obviously going to have the time and ability to get a big bench
>>37748860
That's irrelevant, he won't have had bench programmed at the peak of his weightlifting, see deli's post.
>>37750619
deliuge a snatch 100kg as well
so I am bigger guy than you thinks
>>37750841
U don kno wat u talmbout
>>37750096
bring it on you fucking faggot, i have nothing to lose
>>37750719
>>37750619
Show me one person with a 230kg bench that got that from "transfer".
There's no way.
100kg is literally nothing.
230kg is elite powerlifting levels.
The world record for the 105 class is 222.5, and for the 120 class is 250.5 (albeit with a small pause, klokov likely did touch and go which is a few kg easier - but klokov also does not arch anywhere near as much as the powerlifters do in competition).
You think Klokov would reach that level by not benching at all?
Besides, there are videos of him benching and he said himself he did bench.
when is an appropriate time to hop on?
once you are internationally competitive but on the lower side/not making gains?
earlier?
>>37751245
klokov already had like a 150kg press, its not that much of a leap for him to be able to bench the numbers referenced with hardly any benching
>>37751268
If you're talking about candies, as early as possible.
Is there any value for regular deadlifts in weightlifting? I don't want to start a shitstorm just need honest answers.
If I lift for general strength and also weightlifting, could they still be beneficial? I understand that clean deadlifts would be better for the clean etc but what about building strength with a standard deadlift? Surely if my deadlift increases, so does my clean deadlift etc?
I am not sure if I'd like to be serious at weightlifting yet, maybe I will decide in a year?
>>37751429
Do death lifts I dl way more than I can clean I don't think the dl helps my cleans at all since it's a completely different position for me
Just a reminder that THIS is what Clean Deadlifts look like.
>>37751245
Noone is denying the fact he benches
The point was simply that during his strictest periods of weightlifting the Russians would not bench as part of their programmed exercises. Calm down.
Also, show me one video of him doing that 230kg bench while he was training as a competitive lifter
>What are e-stats to sell yourself to people online
Ya got played
>>37751457
Everyone can deadlift more than they clean for the reason you stated
A weightlifter needing positional strength should do strict clean dead and strict snatch dead
If you just need all-round strength and adaptation the regular is ok if it's not fucking you're clean technique
>>37751558
so is it just the starting position that is different?
I thought you basically added a shrug to the end
>>37751558
no one was wondering
>>37751558
And THIS is what a Deadlift looks like.
>>37751625
Sorry lad, trappy-chan doesn't know and she calls the shots around here. ;)
>>37747115
I wish I was just a pussy. My last two major injuries have been nerve rather than muscle based so I dunno if gh would do shit
>>37747533
is there a trick to it? I hate how they feel, the rings always end up in front
>>37751623
A clean deadlift should basically be same start as your clean and same back angle throughout
Basically a clean pull without extension
>>37751832
Gh can fix everything bby
>>37751877
will it make my peen bigger so I can impress the judges and they'll give me white lights more often
>>37751870
what are the benefits of stopping before lockout that way?
is it just to emulate what you would be doing in a c&j?
>>37751558
Literally just a deadlift with lighter weights, so that it allows the hips to start lower.
Vid related is what happens when you do a clean deadlift with heavy weights - literally becomes a regular deadlift.
We've been through this before already.
>>37751567
>The point was simply that during his strictest periods of weightlifting the Russians would not bench as part of their programmed exercises. Calm down.
I wasn't arguing about that either tho.
>>37751932
Ok bby let's not fite again
>>37751979
Ok bby sry
>>37751920
To practice staying over the bar
>>37751932
Trappy what should I do then if I want to build overall strength from floor? I really want to build more strength rather than technique since I'm not sure if I want to fully go into WL yet.
Should I just do them like vid related because even then, his upper back isn't rounding. Mine does.
>>37751558
No that's a clean pull
>>37747592
yeah i know ;__;
>>37750600
6*7
>>37752715
8x6 for that 8x6
redpill me on what belt to buy
>>37752809
real niggas dont wear belts
>>37752809
If u need a belt ur money would be better invested in a squat plug :^)
>>37752809
>le red pill
a belt of cyanide
>>37752809
>not fashioning your own belt from leather and a simple clasp
Feg
>>37753046
?
>>37752965
>>37752995
>>37753022
>>37753046
>>37753066
>>37753133
when he touched you there
it wasn't your fault
it's not your fault
it's not your fault
it's not your fault
>>37752816
>>37752858
>>37752896
>>37752968
lads I need a real answer
>>37753305
Whatever u find comfy and that is within tha rules
I have a single ply tapered leather one and a valeo I hardly use either
I did use the valeo for jerks last night night start using it for clean and jerk made rack position feel less taxing I guess i am just weak core
>>37752809
you really don't need a belt unless you're /fraud/ and in that case get the fuck out of my face.
>>37753330
>>37753408
I need a belt for injury prevention on squats, at least thats what my coach told me
so wuts a good belt
>>37753442
>injury prevention
>belt
baka
>>37753408
A lot of older lifters use them. All the masters lifters at my gym do
Also one girl who just medalled at nationals wears a belt for everything including snatches
Its just preference bro
>>37733736
saving this post.
When you guys do your squats, do you do atg or just below parallel? I've been doing atg but I've seen some masters(older gents) do just below parallel and burst their way back up and I wanted to ask them about it but I'm too autismo to. Is it mobility issues (which they didn't seem to have) or more activation of a certain muscle or something? Also slow rise on squat or burst?
>>37753699
from what I've read is you should go as low as you catch in whatever lift
