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cheating frauds general

>tfw can't not care about sluts

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>>37446933
steroids are for manlet faggots
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Bernie Sanders
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I'll make you my analgirl if you hurt a puppy you degenerated psycho
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>>37446900

it does the same thing as nolva

supposedly its safer so if youve got it go for it i guess
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>>37446965
brb, heading to animal shelter (:
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Anyone have a source for the legal hormone trestolone aka TREST aka Ment ? I can buy the transdermal and oral bullshit from Olympus labs of corse but I want Ment, TREST acetate... The real deal. Either raw powder or already in oil. Can anyone recommend a SST source that carries the real stuff and has tried it them self? TREST is the God of steroids. TREST>tren>power gap>all
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>>37446933
no cheat no gain
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>>37446933
>tfw have sex 3-4 times a week without sterons
>tfw only been lifting 2x a week for 6 months

Steroids are a meme guys. If anything you need personality steroids, OP.
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>>37447040
Never heard of this. What makes you think it's better than tren?
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>>37446933
FAGS
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>>37447085
cool

>>37447112
no
u
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>>37447040
> enjoy the ments
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>>37447040

wtf

trest is trash m8

Its been around for decades, the hoopla about it only resurfaced because a few pharmaceutical companies investigated it as a potential contraceptive for men

i can tell you right now how that will work: not well at all. Ronnie managed to put 8 kids worth of sperm into some poor woman while hes running a science experiment on his body
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>>37447109
Research it. It is better. I have ran both extensively so I have anecdotal evidence as well. Anabolic rating of TREST is 2200. Tren is 500. Test is 100.
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>>37447085
nah they need intelligence steroids, because they're obviously too stupid to live
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>>37447170
Do some Research on TREST before you pass judgement. Anabolic rating of 2200. You might be referring to oral or transdermal. But there is basically no stronger hormone than IM TREST. It's just tricky to run because of such heavy aromatization.
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>>37446967

kinder, gentler version of nolva

>>37447040
>>37447170

>tfw you've got almost 30g worth of trest deca in your gearbox

incidentally, that's why I've got a mountain of indian pharma asin and ralox
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>>37447194

ive probably forgotten more research than you will ever read

thats why i understand that the methods used for dissociating anabolic:androgenic activity were flawed.

halotestin has a very impressive aa ratio. In practice, its not very anabolic in humans.
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Are SARMs worth it?
What can you guys tell me about them?
What about PCT? Are they necessary for SARMs?
How long are SARMs cycles and do you need an AI.
Are the gains even worth taking SARMs in the first place. What can I expect in cycles. How long are they? 4 weeks?
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>>37447232
no
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>>37446933
y'all have a sticky?

I was thinking of running a simple test-e cycle. i'm interested in side-effects (especially anything psychological and how it might interact with my depression/anxiety/psych meds) and what else I need to take along with it/after.
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>>37446933
Is there any shit I can take without injecting?
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>>37447256
no
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Jesus summer is hitting hard in this thread.
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>>37447256
Absolutely not.
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>>37447271
ikr
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>>37447271
Fucking retards, I tell you.

If they wanted to be juicy for summer they should've been cycling at the beginning of the year. Just leave, summer, come back next year.
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>>37447208
Have you ever ran the injectable trest? If this shit really is 4x stronger than tren I don't even know if I would touch it honestly.
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>>37447256

100mg dbol every day and fap with TD test twice a day
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>>37447232
It is very difficult to find good information on this, as they are still somewhat new and not that popular.

I'm currently running an ostarine/enobosarm cycle, just started out, if you hang around, you will probably see me reporting on it occasionally.

It is clear that they are nowhere near as strong as actual steroids, and the current-gen ones do still shut your HPTA down a little bit if you take them in massive doses. Ostarine is the nicest one in this regard. Some others like Andarine (S-4) have really bad side-effects (loss of night-vision, yellow tint on vision etc) but are reportedly stronger. Other sources claim Ostarine is one of the most anabolic ones.

Regardless, you can read e.g. the IIa trials for ostarine which do show that it does have real muscle-growth and bone-hardening effects etc, at very little/no side-effects. But it's more of a slight speedup compared to the explosive effect you get with steroids. Some people also claim it has macronutrient-partitioning benefits and other stuff.

SARMs will likely become more and more interesting in the future, as they figure out more ways to make them have less side-effects and up the potency. It looks like there is a lot of potential for future innovation, but I wouldn't expect to be blown away by the current gen of SARMs, exactly.
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>>37447222

to be fair, there have been some really strong anecdotal reports on it in the past year or two from various communities

but yeah, a:a ratios are fucking profoundly retarded considering the methodology involved means the results have pretty much no bearing on human in vivo activity and practical applications

>>37447253

r/steroids/wiki

basic bitch 500mg test e for 12-16 weeks

>>37447271
>>37447277
>ikr

>>37447298

nope, this'll be the first and what a fucking doozy it'll be

450 for 10 and then 900 for 16
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>>37447222
Your a fool just for assuming such
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Iceo f you are actually interested in doing real research not copping what some manic retard wrote in a fit of excitement on some dumb steroid forum, i can link you a booklet so you can better understand why A:A ratios on paper are unreliable

if you're on of the tl;dr crowd i can just boil it down to the leviator ani in rats is a poor marker for anabolic activity because the leviator ani in rats is not really skeletal muscle, its more akin to the PCG muscle in humans.

>>37447347

"do some research" he says

*goes onto steroid.com* Ive got a phd in the practical application of androgens nerd!!!
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>>37447168
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>at bbq
>dck know size comes up
>girls having a laugh about small dicks
>all clearly larger than mine

I'm never leaving my house again

Atleast I looked swole, swoler, swolest
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>>37447336
>450 for 10 and then 900 for 16
Is that 10 and 16 weeks respectively?
Also why does it aromatize? I thought nor19 steroids couldn't aromatize
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>>37447336
Yo I need more clothing advice, literally where should I go to get what? What's a reasonable price range for a wardrobe?
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>>37447336
>r/steroids/wiki
>basic bitch 500mg test e for 12-16 weeks
based.
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Right, so starting to figure out babbys first cycle here. Have I got all these down right?

Test-E 300 mg/week
An AI on hand just in case since the test dose is low.
Chlomid or Nolva for PCT.

Are Chlomid and Nolva interchangable in this case? As in I can go with whichever?
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>>37447422
>I thought nor19 steroids couldn't aromatize
ever heard of nandrolone?
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>>37447468
Just go with nolva. Up the test. Beginner 500mg/wk is already plenty conservative.
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>>37446967
go for toremifene
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>>37447412
It can't be that bad man. I'm sure you have a normal cock. Everyone online exaggerates anyway.
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>Party last night
>Slut tells me
>"Coach you are a perfect human"
>perfect human
>human
>HUMAN
I failed you piano man.
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>>37447477
Ya deca does prolactin shit not estrogen shit or am I missing something?
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My ass still hurts like after 3 days of pin what do
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>>37447508
Specifically laughing athe bigger dicks though

>>37447509
8scoops of se oil ed cmon
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>>37447485

People keep telling me this.
Y'know what, fuck it, we'll go 500.

Does Test-E have any effect on appetite at all?

Nat. test around 500.
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>>37447509
Lmao that was pretty good coach.
On another note I always get kinda offended when girls tell me I am perfect. I'm just thinking that's sweet but you don't know a damn thing about me bitch. You just want some dick.
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>>37447517

prolactin is potentiated by estrogen

the notion of prolactin related gyno remains hotly debated to this day.

Physiologically, its estradiol that is responsible for the creation of glandular tissue in the breast
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>>37447530
Bigger than you is what you mean? Again don't sweat it. Supposedly you are a qt3.14 and that's what most girls care about anyway.
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>>37447517
its both
nandrolone aromatizes p heavily
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>>37447412

oh come on we both know all those whitebread fucks down there wouldn't be able to hang with the pillowfucker 9000

I expect you to clap dem cheeks, jerry

>>37447422

yep, consecutively

because somebody fucked with it a whole bunch and out comes something that acts like a hybrid of tren and nandrolone and partially aromatizes into the big ugly older sister of estrogen

>>37447425

we talking the whole simplistic understated young professional style?

jeans depend on your price range, if you've got thunder thighs and a squat booty, etc

same kinda thing with shirts

boots/belt are an investment in quality so it's going to be proportionally higher $ but it'll be worth it, I personally like allen edmonds a whole lot

really for everything it's what your realistic price range is, how willing you are to invest in quality, and just massive amounts of reading and googling to just see what kind of shit appeals to you

what the kind of general consensus is for best x in your price range, weighed against the bias of whatever retarded fart-huffing douchebag perfectionists harp about in every community

it's definitely a process

>>37447529

gj with subq leakage

>>37447555
>prolactin is potentiated by estrogen

thank god, someone else gets it

trest does actually aromatize though

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8142308
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>>37446911
>How old are you anyway? Have you worked in a corporate IT environment before?
25.

Only 1 graduate intern, but they had no work for me. So, no real job experience

job experience > degree
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>>37447555
>potentiated
Had to Google that one lmao.
So you are saying elevated prolactin levels will cause any estrogen sides you are experiencing to become worse?
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>>37447530
Why is fraud always end up back at penises pillows and plastic pussies?

>>37447552
>On another note I always get kinda offended when girls tell me I am perfect. I'm just thinking that's sweet but you don't know a damn thing about me bitch. You just want some dick.
Ofc they want dick. It's dope being worshiped.
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>>>37447529 (You)
>gj with subq leakage

How fix
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>>37447637

I'm saying that the first step is almost always estrogen.

Its debatable if prolactin is even worth worrying about. Like a lot of theories floating around ancillary drugs, a lot of seems made up to offload more product and make a buck.

I never used an anti-prolactin, never had a need to. I used prami once, felt sick to my stomach and ended up selling the rest off to some fucking weirdo who wanted to be able to jerk his dick raw
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>Stop msten
>lose 5lbs
Water weight is so ridiculous
I love telling nasties about it to, they're always blown away

>>37447574
Yeah but it's been bugging me alot recently.

I'm so red pulled on women lately
They're just people how do I get out of my head

>>37447631
How do I sleep with qt coworkers

>at lunch
>make conversation about her tats
>asks about mine
>spaghetti tsunami

>>37447649
The 3 p's, man
The pillars of modern society
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>>37447649
>Ofc they want dick. It's dope being worshiped
Ya I guess I am just kinda over the random sex. I want to have a serious relationship and when drunk sloots are telling me how perfect I am it's just kinda like ehhhhh you are definitely not wife material.
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>>37447696

continunig this, theres a pretty simple way of finding out if you have a prolactin problem:

get a blood test

in 99% of cases, i'd be willing to bet money its not a problem, meanwhile the estrogen certainly is.
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>>37447637

other way around

>>37447670

heat pad, massage, time

>>37447696
>>37447741

prolactin can't really do shit without estrogen's motive force, keep the latter under control and the former doesn't have any real intertia to do anything

>>37447700

if the body language cues line up and she's acting into you, see if she wants to get drinks after work

pick a place relatively close to yours, then work the magic
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>>37447696
Ya when I first started taking shit years ago I bought all this caber but I don't even need it. I also remember reading about guys having almost no refractory period when using caber but I have always been able to get off back to back at least three times so maybe I have naturally low prolactin?
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What's the best stack for someone who's only concerned with strength?
Preferably something you could cruise on for years and which is not too toxic.
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>>37447633
where are you located/looking to be hired? geographically i mean..
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>>37447774

caber and prami are nasty stuff and i wouldnt touch them just for the sake of being able to nut more frequently
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>>37447700
>Yeah but it's been bugging me alot recently.
>I'm so red pulled on women lately
>They're just people how do I get out of my head
You have never had a real girlfriend right?
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>>37447827
Ya I don't use the caber. I've got like 50mg probably more of this shit sitting in my drawer collecting dust.
So anyway the moral of the story is control your estrogen and don't worry about the prolactin basically?
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>>37447876

yep
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How do they do it

What chems
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>>37447798
Netherlands
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>>37447762
I'm pretty sure the cues are there

And she is new to the area

But we both joined the office gym, maybe I can show off my muscles more lol

>>37447837
I had one for 2 years
Never fugged
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>>37447911
kek at that pic someone should make one with horrible mtf transformations and say that democrats want these "females" to share bathroom
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>>37447933
>I had one for 2 years
>Never fugged
Why?
Also are you trying to get another girlfriend?
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>>37447955
Too beta

We'll I'd like to
I mean I love azusa but she's not real
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>>37447916
>Netherlands
I would help you get a job if you were in the states. You don't have any friends in the industry there that can help you get your foot in the door? What about job fairs or can your university help you find work?
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>>37448002
>Too beta
You MUST work on this. Girls for the most part like to be submissive and if you can't gently impose your will on her she is not gonna be impressed at all. I'm not saying to be some Chad douche but be a fucking man. Go after the things you want (girlfriend poon) with fierce intensity and dedication. She will be impressed and eventually let you touch it if she actually likes you.
I wish I could give you some better advice but I would have to see your autismo flirting skills in person.
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So I am 8weeks into my test /tren 600/400 bulk and I have to say it's fucking agony. Trensomnia fatigue kinda depressed sore as fuck stomach is doing unspeakable things. all around a bad.feeling. despite that the strength gains are massive

Drop the tren and uping.the test.or going.the low test high tren route or stacking see deca / mast to it?

Oh and another 12weeks left before dropping to a cruise dose
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>>37446933
>PROVIGIL: human chorionic gonadotropin
kek, indians in charge of looking up proprietary names
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>>37448002
Just get some confidence bro, girls like that

and stop being ugly

>>37448034
I appreciate that, thanks.

That's the problem, I didn't build up a network during my school period, like i should. Probably will some some course via the Goverment that will help me get a job.
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>>37448129
>Just get some confidence bro, girls like that
i-it is all about the confidence r-right mast?
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holy fuck stop entertaining this fucking autist

this shit drives me up the wall, he needs to spend less time on the internet and more time socializing with normal people in real life
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>>37448174
>he needs to spend less time on the internet and more time socializing with normal people in real life
sorry I forgot again, where you the first or the second guy from the right?
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>>37448174
how would you set up a tren blast? I liked your approach on eq
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>>37448152
that's the biggest LIE ALIVE.


>>37448174
are you talking about me m8? say that to my face and see what happens

>>37448187
They look mediocre, i look better
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>>37448187

you know how many guys actually look like that? You'll probably only meet a handful in your entire life

you're shit with women because you're fucking weird and neurotic from spending half your life looking at a computer screen, not because you dont look like a professional model

and to make matters worse, you hang around other neurotic messes who are exactly the same as you and twist your world view to be as miserable as they are, because misery loves company

go back to r9k or join the other narcissist sociopaths at sluthate or whatever the next mass shooter production is, ill be ignoring autismo posts from now on its a waste of time
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>>37448152
This picture is so stupid. Obviously the shit lord on the left has never even heard of soap let alone how to dress or talk to people etc. Looks are helpful but I promise getting girls is all confidence and being funny/interesting.
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>>37448224
>you're shit with women because you're fucking weird and neurotic from spending half your life looking at a computer screen, not because you dont look like a professional model
yeah that is totally why
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>>37448210

I'd go 150mg/week test

400-600mg tren

that really should be more than enough. If you REALLY must, add 200mg of mast at some point.
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>>37448258
DHTs make my mood on tren much more bearable.

MK677 also gives me better sleep and digestion on the tren. rHGH would be better of course.
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>>37448224
This

You know what i hate more; MUHH ZYZZ, MUHH EFRON. CHAD IS EATING PIZZA.

>liting for girls.
When does this meme stop
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>>37448224
The truth hath been spoken. But have pity on the autists. They need our help.
>>37448249
You are so right anon. Why even try to improve your game and learn how to dress and flirt if you are not a 10/10 Chad. Might as well just an hero.
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>>37448288
I am improving myself everyday and have improved myself more than anyone I know
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>>37448304
Good. Don't ever stop.
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>>37448274

email me back nigger

is it still the securenym or another?
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>>37447791
horse cum

600mg 3 times a week
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>>37448315
who's the cum slum chum, bro?
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>>37448087
Send your gf over, she'll tell you all about it ; )

>>37448129
I'm better looking than you fuccboi

>>37448278
Lifting for girls is the bigger issue than lack of confidence
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>>37448336
>horse cum
Haha this reminds me of an interview I saw with one of the guys that worked on fear factor.
They asked him what was the most ridiculous thing they came up with that they could NOT put in the show.
His answer was that he found out he could buy horse semen by the gallon and they were gonna fill a swimming pool with it and make the contestants swim around in it and shit.
What the fuck lol.
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>>37447791
test
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>>37448365
Prove me wrong tampon boy

confidence is a byproduct from lifting. Improve yourself. Do it for yourself. Be happy with yourself.

I grew confidence over the years, also due to less giving about people. I had really bad anxiety when i was younger.

Just get big as possible and everyone will hate and envy you, you will unluck a new mental disease
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>>37448487
I don't think most people really give a shit how big you are though. People that go to the gym might care about how big you are but the average normie won't really care. They might comment on your appearance but I don't really feel like they have some sort of unfounded respect just because you lift. Guys like us on the other hand might be more inclined to respect another lifter just like any hobby I guess.

Then again I'm not as big as you are but I'm still pretty damn big to normies....at least I think so.
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>>37448315
Any news on the 1-test custom synth?
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>>37448633
That was also a joke breh. It's no respect, it's just afraidness

People are really easy afraid of my appearance. It's really funny sometimes, but i feel skinny and i don't even notice it. I'am also no instigator or searching for a fight.

When i walk in a tanktop and i see a couple, the guy always looks afraid towards the ground and his girl is somewhat laughing on purpose to give her boyfriend some confidence. really funny
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>>37448633

muscularity is correlated with social dominance in multiple social studies, as is height.

long story short, people tend not to fuck with people they think could crush their skull

at the end of the day though, theres nothing more embarassing than someone who looks like a man but has the social skills of a child, which is why i tell autists who are thinking about roiding to stop being narcissistic and just go socialize until they can carry a conversation beyond pleasantries
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>>37448791
>theres nothing more embarassing than someone who looks like a man but has the social skills of a child

Damn....
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>>37447194
Why are you typing like CHAD eats PIZZA
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>>37448637

it's still at the same stage it's been, there's 3 labs I know of that might be able to but the stumbling block is the minimum order quantity and I don't have $5k+ to sink on a maybe

might still try in the future onesie twosie sampling here and there of cyp to hplc, but nothing immediate

>>37448791

it really never gets old

physical stature plus the ability to project just sheer violence like a cloud around you is amazing for avoiding fights and getting your way in certain social situations

there's a reason why I don't have any problems picking up gigs like event or bar security when I want a little extra cash
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>>37448971
>there's a reason why I don't have any problems picking up gigs like event or bar security when I want a little extra cash

oh boy im burnt out on security work

worked a club for the better part of a year, its amazing how many new guys think its going to be glamorous like bouncers in the movies. In reality: my feet hurt, this music is too loud, why does this drunk cunt think his conversation is interesting to me, oh boy another fight i wish i could smash this cunts face in but the police are like 3 minutes away, no you can't come back in and stop trying to reason with us you're drunk dickhead
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Do you have to know some shady Russian guy at the gym to get anything?
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>>37449055
Ya just ask for big Ivan. He will hook you up.
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>>37448487
You got the pic with the guy in your pic and arnold in the same pic saying 'what will you look like at age 25' or sth?
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>>37449115
literally first result on google images if you search for "what will you look like at age 25"
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>>37449047

most of it's relatively sedate, just a favor for a friend picking up a shift or two at some college bar, there's not enough cheap vodka and red bull in the world to make most of these shitty little frat boy wannabes mistake themselves for a contender

clubs/events are a different ballgame entirely since the managers know exactly what they're getting themselves into when they call me, I'm there to expedite someone's face meeting the sidewalk outside while they're either conscious or after I've slapped the teeth out of their head

have you ever slapped someone so hard that the bartenders could hear it over the music?
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>>37449140
Tfw manlet and don't really know how to fight but wish I could be a bouncer for a week just for fun.
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>>37449115
It's cwc cmon
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>abdominal skinfold is 10mm
>ok
>start dnp 500mg
>few days later
>look like shit, like worse than a natty that doesn't lift and takes estrogen
>abdominal skinfold is 15mm

nice meme brothers
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Havnt been in the market for about 2 years. What happened to r/sst? How do I get access?!
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>>37449175
more like "dnp" laced with myostatin and oral estro kek
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>>37449140
>have you ever slapped someone so hard that the bartenders could hear it over the music?

the few times i had to hit a dude i always went for a gut shot, put them down hard and you can do it sneaky so it just looks to other people like you are wrestling him to the ground

cops really started cracking down on security here after the media ran some hysteria about violent bouncers a few years back

of course they always leave out the bits about what people did to instigate the beatdown
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>>37449175
Do you know what dnp does
Of course you look like shit
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>>37449175
DNP increases water retention until you cycle off it, you're going to look worse while on it and only afterwards will the fat loss become apparent.

Good job researching a potentially deadly supplement before you start taking it though.
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>>37449175
few days later? run it for 3 weeks then drop it. at the end of the 4th week you'd be shredded. DNP makes you bloat and makes your muscles flat while on it. You look and feel like shit but it's worth it once it's over. Unless you think you are a special snowflake that dnp has the reverse affect on.
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>>37449218
>>37449272
>>37449276
i read about it, i didn't expect it to be THIS bad.
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>>37449301
Shit I'm on it right now and have almost nothing but the terrible lethargy and 0 thirst even when my mouth is dry enough to seal shut when i first get up.
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>>37449339
what dose are you running and how long have you been on so far?

and yeah same shit, i have to force myself to drink.
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>>37449164
>just for fun

yeah nah

80% of it is boring, annoying bullshit being around retarded drunk people

15% is dragging some kicking, clawing, spitting, retarded bitch out by her hair

5% is actual physical shit, and you'd get your ass kicked up between your ears

oh and I don't do jobs where I have to deal with ghetto niggers, nobody's paying me enough to come to work in a plate carrier

>>37449180

what happened is you're retarded

>>37449207

for the college bars the cops can get a bit shitty if you're a little rough, but most of the time if some dude gets grabby or actually wants to throw hands you put that shit down with immediate, brutal efficiency and have them out on the street before anyone actually knows what the fuck happened

that slap-ko was actually the only time I could've got in shit but the dude actually had the nerve to hit one of the girls in full view of me while I was maybe 10 feet away, came down on him like a fucking mountain and had him bound up like a pretzel on the curb as a present for the county cops, one of the units that ended up responding was actually the brother of a kid I went to basic with

gave them my report, went back in and talked to the manager then got an ice pack for my hand as a precaution, bartender was going on about how she could fucking hear me slap him from across the bar

about the only thing louder than that was probably the sound of every pair of panties in there hitting the floor, bartender's and waitress's included
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found some stanozolol in a trailer I was cleaning. looks like 3 doses of 1mL. take it or sell it?
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>>37449207

Been there, done that. It's funny how many people think they can take a punch.

That said, just pinned some delicious pharma oils. First dose of a nonyolo blast.

350 test +-, from now on 250 e5d if it's stable enough. Otherwise e4d.
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>>37449402
>using mystery gear
>selling mystery gear
Unless it was your trailer, get rid of it.
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>>37449389
I don't know what you're talking about. I was able to see posts there a while ago, not anymore.
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>>37449414
Can I just toss it with the unused/unopened syringes?
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>>37448381
In one episode a girl drank a big jar of horse semen. It was probably a pint, I don't remember.
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>>37449469
Clear your browser cache. I was just on there this morning and everything appears normal.
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>>37448315
I missed you somehow. Will email you soon.
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>>37449543
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She was probably used to drinking gallons of man gravy though
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So i did my first pin of test yesterday and it went smooth as fuck, i had no pain, no issues and my muscles made a funny noise when i massaged the injection site. Im upping my calories and noticing microscopic gains from what i assume is a placebo effect of me working harder and eating more but i was wondering. Does test increase your mood and well being within the first-second day? And does aromasin make anyone else sleepy as fuck?
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Normal jobs aren't as fun as I thought
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>>37449704
>Does test increase your mood and well being within the first-second day?

yes

if you're new it will be hard to perceive, but old steron addicts can tell within a couple of hours of injection that they feel something
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>>37449276
Based nero always insulting people while giving info. It's like you have no off switch.
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>>37449751
First time using here but i noticed it and it got me wondering if ive always been just naturally low-T and if i should just get my shit from a doctor instead of shipping it in from bum fuck Turkey. Only problem is im 19
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>>37449543
Average woman's night out desu

>>37449715
Wage slave life sucks
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SOMEONE FIND SOME DAMN TREST
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>>37449715
Don't spoil it for me, bro. I haven't even started yet.
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Do you guys get your stuff online? If so where? I am debating going to the dark side and have never done any kind of pro-hormone or steroids.

I know the risks involved with buying online but some sites are really good at getting around it.

Also, what compound do you guys recommend for a first cycle?

I have Letro, Nolva, and Prami already since I used it to treat gyno before I just said fuck it and went under the knife anyway.
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>>37449954
200mg test and 200mg nandrolone
or 200mg test and 400mg EQ

Increase EQ or nand by 100mg monthly
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>>37449988
Now I know it is only the higher doses that cause gyno, but to avoid it how should I dose the letro/exemestane while on cycle?
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>>37448381
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIn38ThUckk
shit quality, didn't try very hard to find better.
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>>37450035
I use 10mg aromasin taken with fats when I get any sign of estrogen.
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>>37448224
BASED
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>>37448249
Hey Supermang, long time no see.
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>>37449389
i love this picture
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>>37446933
Any tips for acne
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>>37450107
Stop eating dairy, it causes a really bad inflammatory response.
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Getting so keen to try Sdrol
Gonna make some great gains, both strength and size
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>>37450070
>Order from MB, seized & cops
>Order from TG4Y, seized & cops
How do you even get gear into here anymore, jesus christ.
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>>37450204

what country
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>>37450204
As a side note at least the bitcoins I've been unable to get a delivered order out of are worth $400 more now.

>>37450224
Denmark atm
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>>37449469
that's because you're on r/sst and not on what r/sst stands for
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>>37450069

I can't even take 6.25mg on 250 without my joints feeling terrible

side note, you and sak >>37450224 are making me consider snagging like 100g of eq to maybe add to cruise, like 250 test u and ~300-400 eq

>>37450238
>worth $400 more now
>now

yeah
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>>37450455

eq da joocy

I literally just got some EQ less than an hour ago

well its either EQ or relabelled deca lol
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>>37450455
If tinder will just tell me where he manages to get it through customs I can order before it drops to nothing again

Probably gonna' having to rent an apartment in sweden or something
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>>37446933
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>>37449180
/r/steroidsourcetalk

>>37448971
What's the MOQ? Post your mail and we'll talk.

>>37450455
EQ is nice but I'd go with mast or nand before EQ for a cruise.
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>>37450982

swoletron at safe dash mail, my most public-facing one

moq is in the neighborhood of at least 1kg but probably more like 5-10kg, so min $5k to $20-40k potentially

custom synth pretty much rules out any non-commercial scale labs just from initial investment alone
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>>37451127
> essentially same price as tren gram for gram
is it as strong as tren mg/mg?
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>>37451127
why would you custom synth long ester 1-test when there is plenty of 1-test cyp raws going around?
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>>37451176

honestly I've never touched it before, some people will sing dhb's praises all day and night

>>37451208

not even just long ester, the idea that I've been bandying around is just working with a lab to try and somehow find an ester that doesn't give you horrific pip

it might be the molecule itself given that boldenone has a bad, bad reputation but there are pretty much no rules that anyone knows of for what specifically at the molecular level can cause pip

it might just be the cypionate, it might be the dhb molecule, there's no real way to get any kind of conclusive evidence without hplc verification and actual end user testing

shit, if I wanted to try and heisenberg my way to where dhb cyp doesn't have pip then I could just order a key from any of the 6 or so manufacturers/resellers that offer it and go tinker away
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> MK-677 continued
> delicious egg sandwiches all day until I ran out of eggs
> then I hit the ramen, all the ramen
> even the ketchup packet looked appetizing
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>>37446933

So, I've always been interested in trying a cycle, but I can't get past the requirement to use syringes for all the gear. it's not that I have any issues with pinning, but it's impractical due to my job (military). There's just no way I'm going to carry a 2 month supply of needles and gear into the field, hump that shit around, hope it doesn't break, and then only be able to pin while in a filthy porter potty.

Are there any recommendations for an oral cycle? Or like a nooby's first cycle?
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>>37451352
You can go the SARMs route; 10mg LGD-4033 ED (personal recommendation)
Or you can do orals; 25mg dbol+25mg drol ED (personal recommendation)
Both will shut you down but orals are liver toxic so you'll probably want TUDCA in case your liver is a bitch. Also if you aromatise heavily the dbol/drol combo might be an issue so you'll need some AI on hand too. Or you can choose an oral that aromatises less, possibly tbol or just be a basic bitch and do anavar.
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>>37451276
Yeah, I wanted to eat everything but the kids n sync in the beginning. I'm 2 weeks in and appetite is now within control for fat loss.
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Damn I feel kinda lame. The milf that lives behind me was trying to mow her lawn but couldn't get the mower started and I didn't offer to help. Feel kinda bad for her because I think her and her husband are splitting up and they have 2 young kids.

/End diary.
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>>37451478
You could've mowed her lawn bro, lame.
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>>37451477
thats because mk-677 builds resistance, come off for 2 days every week or two to make it more effective
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>>37451478
>>37451494
Could have cut the grass
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Alright lads, I have two vials of test-e but no PCT and no connects here anymore. What should I do?
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>>37451503
It's like no one reads my pastebin..

>>37451518
Best post you've made.

>>37451534
/r/steroidsourcetalk
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>>37451494
>>37451518

I'll probably offer next time I see her.
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>>37451276

Fug I was thinking if running some mk but I don't know about that hunger. I already go on scavenges for food around the kitchen.
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>>37451548
You forget I spawned
>how long is a piece of string
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>>37451503
Where'd ya hear that? I read it's just the sides that taper down.
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>>37451414
buddy of mine is hooking me up with some tbol, I want to run it for about 8 weeks should 40mg a day be good? or what would you recommend for dosage?
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>>37451664
You'll be shutdown and feel like shit. Expect not to have any sex drive for virtually the entire 8 weeks.
Also will probably want to run some TUDCA to help out your liver, 500-750mg/day.
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So i found a teriyaki marinade that has zero sodium that is halfway decent to eat with chicken and broccoli. Its the mrs dash teriyaki marinade. Its got a shit ton of sugar, but if thats not a big deal whatevs. Figured id share that with you.
Have another question for you guys. Since I train about 5 days a week in mma i have not been big into lifting, aside from very basic circuit training and bodyweight conditioning a few times a week. Since im on cycle now, id like to incorporate about 3 sessions of lifting into my schedule.


Is that enough? What are your guys routines? How can i maximize my time in the gym? Just a shit ton of compound movements or should i try isolating stuff as well?
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>>37451790
>id like to incorporate about 3 sessions of lifting into my schedule.
SS+GOMAD
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>>37451548
Pastebin?
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>>37451414

Thanks for the advice. I've been looking into SARMs since you've posted it and it seems like the most effective and convenient way to start out, but I just want to confirm a couple of things:

1) Method of intake of SARMs is oral? If I get the 10mg/1ml bottle of 30ml, do I just take 1ml of the stuff orally every day for 4-8 weeks?

2) From what research I've done, SARMs do not require PCT in low dosages. Should I purchase anything just in case I start to experience side effects, or just to be safe? What if I decide to do a triple stack?
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>>37451790
>arinade that has zero sodium that is halfway decent to eat with chicken and broccoli. Its the mrs dash teriyaki marinade. Its got a shit ton of sugar, but if thats not a big deal whatevs. Figured id share that with you.
>Have another question for you guys. Since I train about 5 days a week in mma i have not been big into lifting, asid
Unless you're doing 2.5x BW squats right off the bat, go with SS.
Keep the calorie intake high though. I used to cycle 15 miles a day when doing a routine similar to SS and needed 5400 calories a day to gain 2.5 lbs a month. I imagine your MMA is simlar
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I still have my natty card, but I am 23 and have been lifting for 6 years.

I have hit a strength plataue, and have never been able to get under 12% body fat.

I am considering doing a cycle.

What would be best for losing fat and getting shredded while making some strength gains?

Also any good books on steroids?
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>>37452085
250mg test enan/cyp pinned twice a week (500mg/week total)
500mg DNP ED (first 3 weeks) + PSMF diet
After that reverse diet to a 500 cal surplus
Add 25mg dbol preworkout for the next 6 weeks
After 12+ weeks come off test
Wait 2 weeks for test to clear
Start 40mg nolva for 2 weeks
Drop nolva to 20mg for the next 2 weeks
Cycle complete
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>have dilemma
>friend's fwb is keen
>his fwb is qt slut with nipple and clit piercings
>friend is fucking up what he has going on
>know for a fact she's getting bored with him
>not so subtlety mention to him he's gotta keep it interesting for her

Would it be a dick move to fuck this girl? Would he welcome an Eskimo brother?
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>>37452085
>Can't get below 12%

Learn how to diet.

What are your lifts?
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>>37452163
6'3''
240, 16% bodyfat atm

5rm:
Squat 405
Deadlift 515
Bench 245
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>>37452150
surprisingly sound advice
running dnp while waiting for test to kick in should be more popular to be honest
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>>37452151

Depends.

I'd do it, if I was interested. But there are 2 or 3 exceptions.

I'd do the ex of a close friend, but I'd definitely check first.

Fwb? I'll give a heads up. It's just sex desu.

>this guy know how to draw a HNNNNG back.
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>>37452151
Depends how much of a bro he is but if he isn't hit it right and often maybe he's lost interest too?
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been a while guys

how am I doing?
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>>37452446
Wew lad, half man half flying skwirrel
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>>37452343
>>37452420
I gave him a heads up he was cool.

Vid related
http://youtu.be/4m8V1BHHEFI
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>>37452471
I'm just trying to make it, friend

>>37452518
well if it ain't that yung nigga DHB still going at it

any word on Chem lately? lord knows how long it's been since I've lurked here, like I forgot /fit/ even existed
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how low can i have fats without negatively affecting health? trying to keep them as low as possible to prevent fat gain on this massive tren bulk

also is shaving all over with a electric trimmer on a 1 a bad idea? tren is making me hairy as fuck but i cant be fucked using an actual razor and dealing with ingrown hairs
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>>37452541
Your gonna make it

>>37452595
Find a slightly high test beauty therapist those girls are easy as hell and I'm sure would be willing to shave your entire body for you
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>>37452595

> prevent fat gain by not eating fat

the 80s called, they want their dietary advice back lol
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>>37452639
Pretty sure his referring to the fact that when estro is low on high doses of tren dietary carbs don't convert to fat..
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>>37452541
Nope
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>>37452653

who did you hear that from, jason blaha?

hes a fucking moron. I remember that video, this moron butchered the abstract of a study he google-fu'd

They dont give estrogen with trenbolone to fatten cattle up, they give it to them because it massively increases the yield of meat. TBA + E2 treated cattle are LEANER and have LESS marbling than cattle treated with TBA or E2 alone.
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how do you guys dose letro?
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>>37452678
Good to see the SAK in these threads
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>>37452758

hello friend how are you doing?
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>>37452792
I invested my fuel to get the perfect body into getting money. Almost done with dental surgeon studies, I'll try to move to another country (i.e : canada/swiss/luxembourg) as soon as I can. Life's surprisingly good. What about you?
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>>37452835

got depressed and bored with life, got off the roids, went and did 6 months of a bunch of different shit jobs, even almost booked a flight to france to join the foreign legion at one point, now im spinning my wheels and thinking about moving to colombia or eastern europe, i like places with a little bit of chaos and flexibility.

switzerland huh, thatd be a great fucking place to live if youve got the cash flow for it.
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What the fuck do you do to prevent post DNP hunger? After I come off, even a week later, I can stuff myself with shit like brown rice, chicken, oats, fruit, and vegetables until my stomach is literally in pain from having so much food in it, and I will not feel satisfied. I'll still feel like I'm starving to death.

How do I stop this? I'm not overeating but it's annoying.
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>>37452861
well, that's not good. How old are you now?
I think the hardest thing for us is to be able to appreciate the little thing in life. I mean, I worked so much because "I need to be the best". In the end, I still got that mentality, but I can put things in perspective a little bit more.
I wanted to join the FFL at one point too, or some special force.
I don't, but if I were to work there and be successful I would have. I plan to be able to, anyway.

>>37452893
just get back on DNP, I'm sure you have 2% more to lose !
just kidding, silbutramine/EC stack/sports
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>>37452965
I'm actually only running it right now because I'm injured and can't workout at all, and because I only had 21 250mg caps left, so I just said fuck it let's get shredded.
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>>37452861
>foreign legion

Been there and did that after my stint in defence. Just don't. It's not what you think it will be. Unless you are cool with cleaning shit ad nauseam when there's not much else on and relish in the idea of groundhog day in a uniform...

The gucci postings aren't a given and it's just as likely you'll end up filling in numbers at an engineer regiment as going to 2rep etc.

If security work isn't your cup of tea then the FFL won't do it for you.

...unless you want EU citizenship after 5 years service and going through the process of rectification to get your name back.
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>>37452965
havent seen you in 4ever
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>>37453161
but i'm always around

>>37453046
thats a good idea. I'd run 300 test 500 dnp till you're ready to go again
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>>37453125

just came back and saw this

I initially planned on it because i assumed france was actually going to take the fight to ISIS. Of course, being the weak spiritually broken country they are, they didn't even after multiple blatant attacks.

I wouldnt join any peacetime military because I know from friends peacetime military service sucks. The legion would just be an extra layer of suck.
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>>37453413
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>>37453423
One more thing I remember is this duty called 'popotier' ... you're basically a servant for the officers and sncos out field... like they'd expect their morning tea to be served by you and other forms of servile shit.

I spent most of my time either cleaning something, moving something, or being used as free man power than actually getting rounds down range at anybody.

A lot of the cunts you meet are just weirdos too... actually this describes most of my domestic and foreign service. It seems anybody with extreme social maladaptation finds their way into the military in order to make them normal and in the end most normal guys end up pulling the pin... The dregs are the ones that stay in and clog up the system because they'd be fucked anywhere else.
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I am at a point where I have decided to leave natty life behind. As with many of my fellow knitters on this Senegalese Cross-stitching bulletin board I have suffered from some pretty tedious emotions lately, feeling like there is no point living etc. I've noticed a lot of people talking about the mood changes you get from boosted test - I don't particularly lack confidence, but I do lack a desire to give a shit about most things. Is it likely that leaving natty test behind will improve this?
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>>37453529

that sucks, what regiment did you end up in?
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>>37453541

steroids can provide a temporary delusion yes

but it wont solve the root cause. That malaise you are feeling has nothing to do with test levels, its very, very common for men (and women) in this generation.

I think its a lack of community and identity as society has become more atomized.
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>>37453571

Honestly I think a temporary delusion is all I actually need. I've been happy and driven before but recent events have just taken a dump on me and I've been stuck in a rut for too long. I just want to feel something again, even if it is anger and excessive confidence. Then I have to find usable gear in NZ, which could be interesting
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>>37452893
anyone have advice?
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Is this even possible?
Last week: 222Lbs / 29% BF
Today: 230Lbs / 23% BF
I've been taking Sdrol and my calories are like 500 under lmao.
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>>37453817

sorry brother, cant help you. I dont know enough about DNP to make any recommendations, and the one time i did run it i didnt experience what you are reporting.

I can only suggest looking into some appetite blunters. Nicotine works well lol.
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>>37453896
11 lbs of fat lost in a week while gaining muscle? no, not possible
how are you measuring your bf%?
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>>37453817
stims and willpower are the only things that are going to work most likely
i didnt experience any unexpected hunger after coming off of dnp tho, could just be in your head
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>>37453896

yes. Fluid storage can easily account for 10+ lbs. Seriously.

Its mostly in the muscle too, which will throw off bodyfat tests.
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>>37453923
>>37453935
I used the inbody scale as well as a tape test for both, I look a bit leaner than the picture I took as well. I'm not sure though man.
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>>37453934
it's not just in my head, i've looked around and people report the same thing. they lose fat fast with dnp but then they feel like they are starving to death and binge until they're back at their starting BF%.

i am not one to binge at all, but i would rather not feel like i am dying of starvation like a nigger in africa while i am eating 3k+ calories
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Which compounds did the golden age gold gym guys usually take?

They all have this big, lean, yet not dry bodytype

Just test and dbol?
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>>37454004
They didn't take insulin, gh, tren, or mast because those drugs weren't available. You can assume they mostly stuck to test, dbol, primo, and deca.
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>>37454004

deca and dbol were mainstays. Some primo. Testosterone wasnt that popular contrary to popular belief, i imagine because anti-estrogens werent readily available. Aromatase inhibitors certainly werent the and the early gen ones that came later were toxic as hell.
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>>37454032
they used nolva as their ai.
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I've been blasting for 3 weeks, and I'm getting acne breaking out on my face and shoulders.

How should I deal with this if I don't have accutane? I had bad enough acne when I was a teenager, and this might develop worse.
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>>37454043
doxycycline. make sure your estro isn't too high.
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>>37454052
My estro was below normal levels before I started, and I've been taking 12.5 Aromasin ed/eod since then.

How much should I take? Since I'm not actually going anywhere with malaria, and I'm using it for it's acne treatment, I'm not sure of the dosages.
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>>37454043

Are you using an AI?
If so, is it pharma and are you using enough?
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>>37454079

That much asin will have your estro way too low.
That can cause acne too.

Maybe take your asin to e3d or e4d.

Personally I have 12.5 asin e5d and that keeps my estro in a perfect range.
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>>37453948
yeah those scales are shit
its just muscle glycogen and shifts in water
>>37453956
idk then, do an ECA stack for a while then i guess
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I've bulked for most of my life and become a fat fuck. My cut has basically stagnated and plateaued after 8kg in 10 weeks and i'm looking for some advice on a weight stripping cycle.

Tren seems 'dangerous', so i've mostly been looking at clen. What type of cycle and how much/when do I take over what given period?

I'm an ausfag so it makes it harder to get a hold of anything at all.
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>>37454120

start with 20mcg day one.
Taper it up in 20mcg increments to a max of 120 or 140mcg over two weeks. Then take 2 weeks off before doing another 2 week run.

Legit clen will have you feeling worse than tren would though. The blood pressure will make your head hurt every time you bend over or cough, and you will get horrible foot and calf cramps randomly. Supplement with taurine and potassium if you want to limit the cramps, but they will still happen.

Don't buy chinese clen, it is dogshit.
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>>37454120
what's your bf?

also nothing even comes close at all to dnp for fat loss
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>>37454120
dnp sweet summer child
Clen is for people who want to die
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how much strength and muscular gains can i expect to keep after a test cycle? I'm 20 and interested in trying one cycle? What would you recommend
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>>37454185

> recommends dnp
> tells him clen is for people who wanna die

how ironic
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>>37454120
Why would you cut even more? You have a perfect base to be on a bulk cycle.

Put some mass on those arms and shoulders, shit, you will look great. Then you just cut afterwards on a low dose of test with keto/carb cycle & cardio. Ec as a hunger suppressant if you can't take it like a man

>>37454255
>strength
almost none

>muscular gains
Almost all, depending on your genetics, diet and training


500-750 test-e for 14-16 weeks. Look on steroids/r/wiki
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>>37454270
kill yourself retard
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