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Steroids general.
FL is a big boy now and we're all still sitting around talking about 2D girls.
Never thought I'd see the day.
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>>37422303
what happaned to SST? cant see any posts
Yo, SAK. I read Equipoise strips your brain of some GABA. So it might not be good for people with anxiety. Did you notice this? And could GABA be supplemented while on? Thanks, dude.
>>37435130
Works fine for me.
this should have been the OP >>37433943 pic to be honest
steroids are for manlet faggots
>>37435130
You don't literally go to /r/sst, you moron.
>>37435135
I didnt get anxiety from EQ
as for the GABA mechanism, thats entirely possible but AFAIK theres nothing substantiating this besides broscientist theorizing.
its also hard to really discern what is causing what, and this is the problem with guys running large amounts of multiple compounds. When guys report anxiety on EQ, it could very well be from the ridiculous amount of testosterone they are almost always running with it.
For example, on high-test high-tren i got very anxious in about week 6, but on low-test high-tren it was relatively smooth sailing.
As for supplementing GABA, as far as im aware its a waste because it cant penetrate the brain blood barrier and the half life is too short for anything meaningful to happen. Thats why people are prescribed SSRIs not just straight gaba
I think you will be fine if you keep the test low dude, if not you can always discontinue the EQ, a little bit of anxiety as it clears won't kill you. Just keep busy, tren anxiety was always manageable for me as long as i was actually doing stuff.
>>37435244
thats what iv always done and its worked, whats the procedure now?
>>37435268
O/ evenin'.
Know anything indepth on partydrugs or do I have to wait for chem to come back to life ¿
>>37435268
Yeah, low test with anything has worked great.
Fall/school cycle will be:
Test 175mg
EQ 500mg and increase 100mg monthly
300mg mast-e
30mg MK677
>>37435433
cant say i do mate, my party drug days are over.
>>37435068
>Do hookers count
Yes but I hope you haven't slept with a hooker. Sorry if you have, that is hella lame and I would love to give you some advice on meeting a genuine girl if that is the case.
On an unrelated note did my waifu ESTP over dose on heroin finally? Haven't seen her recently.
>>37435098
Steroids are for manlet faggots
>>37435483
sounds great to be honest, like the monthly eq increase, way more sensible than the LOL I DIDNT GAIN 10LBS ALREADY, INCREASE EVERY WEEK
Is it time to come off? http://imgur.com/a/Tx7WM
6 weeks test/tren/mast 400/350/350. .5 adex 2xweek
Felt like GOD for the 1st 4 weeks now Im a tired bag of shit and have to force myself to workout every day. Other than the lethargy, no other sides.
>>37435433
What do you want to know about party drugs? In a general sense I would advise that you avoid cocaine and heavy stimulants while on cycle as well as alcohol. I suppose some mdma is alright in moderation and I am not opposed to weed at all if you can still keep your shit together.
>>37435583
Forgot to mention 500 TUDCA every night
>>37435583
>now Im a tired bag of shit
What are your current estrogen levels? Your e2 is probably crashed right now assuming your diet and sleep are in check.
>>37435615
I included an image of bloods. Estrogen was actually high, 74.5, Range 7.6-42.6
Anyone have recent pics of Fatlifts? Haven't been on here since he first started out.
Is sst dying?
>>37435483
How much MK677 have you run before and why do you like 30mg dose?
>>37435152
Flying witch
Takatsu dj
Hero acadamia
Rezero
Bakuon
>>37435561
5 of them now
2 of them trannies
>>37435268
anecdotal, but 400 test 600 eq gave me anxiety.
>>37435719
15mg and 30mg and I'm running it until I can afford GH, if it's ever even needed for me.
I like 30mg because I don't get sides and I get all the benefits. Maybe slight water retention and tightness in hands but it's very worth it.
>>37435632
>I included an image of bloods.
Sorry I did not click on your link my bad.
Your estrogen is high and you also need to get total estrogen AND e2 measured, not just total estrogen.
In other news you absolutely need to work on your liver enzyme values at 57 and 73 respectively this is pretty bad. I have never had liver values this high and to be quite frank I consider myself a heavy drinker (5+ days a week of drinking.) I have never used oral steroids because of this.
Only other bad thing is your cholesterol levels which are often directly related into estrogen problems.
Look into GW501516 to rectify your cholesterol and possibly liver issues as well. Best of luck.
>>37435721
>5 of them now
>2 of them trannies
Are you serious?
>>37435721
lightweight. I've fucked 34 hookers, three bareback. Two let me cum in their pussy on the reg. Shit was so cash. >>37435561 advice is welcome senpai, I've stopped seeing hookers. Last time I saw one was four months ago.
>>37433798
I'm literally talking about work, not the Sunday outing. And sneakers are a no-no for anything they aren't actually designed to do. Ugh.
Last cap of DNP tomorrow. Reintroduced 30mcg clen today, usual 10mg yohimbine in the morning. Blood pressure is slightly elevated but within normal range (thanks PSMF)
>>37435098
Pic is me. Former fat ass. Still look like shit. Eternal plateau and almost no matches on tinder. My lifts (and my life) are a joke.
I'm ready to roid but unsure what to start with. Thinking 500mg test for 10 weeks. Anyone have any suggestions/advice?
>>37435867
I need non-work fashion advice too senpai
>>37435877
What do you look like now?
>>37435877
>I'm ready to roid but unsure what to start with. Thinking 500mg test for 10 weeks.
Sounds solid. Shoot 250mg test every three days and enjoy the gains. Be sure to have something for estrogen on hand. I would recommend 12.5mg exemestane once a week. May the Zyzz watch over you.
>>37435877
What's you tinder profile look like bro? Screen shot it and blank out your eyes. I fraud but I got bitches before frauding.
>>37435916
like an asshole
>>37435817
>GW501516
Thank you sir! Never heard of GW501516 but will look into it
>>37435919
Sounds good. Now I just gonna find a source. Gonna be a pain since I just moved state
>>37435945
That better not be some punisher-esque tattoo on your wrist faget
>>37435945
Don't take this the wrong way, but frauding will cause you to lose what little hair you have left. That said, you look decent. Don't fraud for the bitches, that doesn't work, man. I'm telling you from personal experience. I fraud to push myself and be the biggest motherfucker in the room. If you wanna pull slags, just have visible abs.
What's your height + weight + lifts?
What are some early symptoms of HPTA suppression? Wanna try out some SARMs, and most people say they don't get HPTA suppression, but apparently a relatively small minority do.
What are some early signs to watch out for?
>>37435817
Cant find on SST or Alphabay. Any clues?
>>37435945
Grow a beard
Its the only card you have i suggest you play it
>>37436126
Research peps and shit
>>37435945
lol whats up billy zane
> tinder
i never got this. Every guy I know who turns to stone around women and doesnt get laid uses tinder.
if you have problems meeting women in real life (an alarming amount of guys do now - and they blame women not their own behavior) how exactly do you think its going to work over tinder? Aside from the massive amounts of flaky chicks on there just looking for a ego boost, suppose you get a match and shes keen to meet up - what then?
you look fine btw, but frauding is not going to magically attract chicks. You know how many faggots jump on roids just to attract women and it doesnt work out? thousands of those dudes in australia, you can tell because they all look like some imitation of zyzz and they go rigid and flinty eyed when women are around but never talk to them.
>>37435841
Yeah
>>37435852
But have you touched a real woman?
>>37436003
worse, it's Quake III
>>37436209
no, I haven't touched a woman without paying for it.
>>37436248
Damn I am a lightweight
Trannies are better, just fyi
I'm sure someday we'll meet the anime girl of our dreams
>>37436248
>made me remember my first date
>gazing into her eyes all night as she talked
>ask her back to my place to watch a movie under the stars on my projector setup
>sitting next to her talking, neither of us watching the movie one bit
>finally get up the nerve to hold her hand
>that + looking into her blue eyes as she talks legit the most joyous feeling I've had yet
>tfw
>>37436248
so this is the type of person who resorts to steroids, huh, really makes you think...
>>37436410
Yeah, height face frame, isn't a meme. It's fact. You can miss one but not too. But the one you miss can't be too fucked up. Like your face can be 5/10, height and frame can make up for it. But you can't have a 3/10 face and expect HFF to work for you.
>>37436493
Jerry is 6', mostly not dyel, and not ugly. Just a giant weeb.
>>37436529
he peepee small tho
>>37436529
I've never seen him post a pic, wtf does he look like?
>>37436410
there's nothing wrong with paying for sex anon
my gf suspects she's preggo after I came in her a while ago, having stomach cramps and shit like that and periods weren't normal
i've been bnc with blasts consisting of various compounds (even tren) for close to a year now and apparently still as fertile as ever
i already have anxiety and lack of sleep from my current compounds and i got anxious as fuck waiting for pregnancy test results next week cause i'd feel horribly bad for her if she'd have to do an abortion
hold me bruhs
>>37436579
something wrong with your gf that you wouldnt want to have children with her?
>>37436579
>not wanting to impregnate a girl
cücked t b h
>>37436592
neither of us wants children (within following 5-10 years at least) and we're not as financially stable as we would like to be etc. and so forth
nothing wrong with my gf I'd gladly have children with her if I'd want to have children, it was just a stupid accident and now we probably have to pay for it
i just feel really bad for her as medical abortion will make her feel terrible and in pain for a long time and surgical costs money and also isn't too nice of an option either but the third option isn't even in consideration
>not being able to sleep and hoping she's just having a stomach flu and irregular periods for some other reason
>>37436592
Little Bastards are expensive
>>37436660
Or you find out that you're sterile and got cucked.
>>37436668
that would just give him other problems though
>>37436688
I was just saying that it could be worse
>>37435098
>mfw I will never date a fraud
>>37436668
chances are nonexistent
>>37436688
>>37436668
at least i wouldn't have to feel bad for her
>>37435945
Why do you have your shirt on to pose bruh?
>tfw 2 days of eating so much food I feel like exploding, but no gym
At least I'll be buying more test and Sdrol for the first time this week
>>37436555
Jerrys not bad looking iirc
Didn't some bad shit go down with LnL recently? I need dat dere cheap tren
>>37436387
I'm not sure if you will be let down or over the moon when you finally have sex mr lifts
Am I forgetting anything? I'm sure I am
Sourcing roids IRL? Or order online?
>>37437031
Yeah. A real source
>>37436878
>my source has a RIDICULOUS minimum order of $150
You're a fuckjng pleb
>>37437051
A minimum of one vial of test huh? That's odd.
>kangaroofaggots
>>37437031
>axyl
What the fuck?
>>37437050
yeah I assumed these sites are fake as hell, I'm literally just using this shit as a check list
>>37437037
Be prepared to pay twice as much for bunk if ordering IRL unless you really do know somebody
>>37437031
More tren
More of everything
And some anadrol and maybe masteron if you have money
>>37437086
So source online. Darknets? /r/steroidsourcetalk?
>>37437028
Depends on the circumstance, if it's with someone I've come to care about I don't see how I could feel let down.
...wait, why do you all blast and cruise instead of cycling?
Don't you cycle test to make sure you don't stop producing test by being on it so long?
>>37437099
Never tried darknets. SST seems good but I've only ordered from our boardsources.
Anyone want some extra homebrew NPP
>>37437116
No
Man i was off for 3 months and i recovered
Sucked for a bit tho
>>37437051
>150
You're fucking lucky then
>>37437062
Yeah exactly 150 isn't even 2 items
>>37437130
"our"
Thought source talk wasn't allowed here?
>>37437155
Doesnt mean theres not sources
>>37437143
Depends
>>37437155
lurk more m9
>>37437169
Tfw you buy 50g for homebrew and find out you're sensitive to prolactin gyno. Looks like ill never be doing tren or nandrolone boys
for science, how fucked would I be if I did a short cycle at 18
>>37437207
Get some caber
When i run high tren i need it esp with test
Been wondering about prami but ppl been vomiting and shit
>>37437229
Caber has its own boatload of sides though amirite? Thinking im going to just stick to test for life.
>>37437159
>>37437179
Hard to lurk these threads when y'all rarely talk about steroids...
>>37437259
I didnt notice any
Dick game was strong tho lol
Ill pin all that there npp for you though
Least i could do
>>37437212
depends on how much growth you potentially have left.
technically the maturation phase for men actually doesnt complete until 25 years old.
my honest opinion is it isnt worth it, and this isn the typical steroid board elitism attitude, but simply because i have seen so many dudes who are running grams of gear yet have barely grew since their first cycle - they almost always train poorly, using the roids as a crutch.
little wonder the really big guys were making good consistent gains well before they touched a needle.
you want the results now, but the reality is 3-4 years will pass faster than you think, and if you train consistently and focus on improving with each session, you will be in a much better position to utilize roids when you're ready, and you might even grow taller in that time that you definitely will not if you jump on the rons.
>>37437212
You're gonna lose all your natural test, get gyno, bald, and die a faggot
>>37437289
Stick around for the bantz friend. This is the best thread in all of /fit to chill in.
>>37437289
Smoke and mirrors
Just go to sst
The sources here are on there too
>>37437293
Lmao how kind of you. Maybe ill pawn it off on gym n00bs. Or see how jooicy my dog can get huehuehuehue
>>37437293
w8 What do you mean by dick game strong?
>>37437318
How bout you drop a email
>>37437294
>>37437297
thanks guys
>>37437294
As per our discussion last night - do you buy straight off their website or through email?
>>37437298
>>37437309
I do enjoy my bantz. Thanks.
Is a PPL worth it if you aren't roiding? I'm going for straight aesthetics
>>37437359
straight from their website
they didnt go to all that trouble of designing a fancy webshop for nothing.
>>37437427
someone just heated up the situation
>>37436552
DELETE THIS
>>37436916
you are remembering correctly
>>37437427
RIP thread
>>37437383
A lot of other sites do that and are sketchy as hell, so this is the diamond in the rough?
why has fraud been so dead today
>>37437374
Bump, I figured you guys would know.
On 100mg test C a week, 6'2 220lb. No AI or HCG. Seemingly no negative sides yet. God damn, I know at least 1/2 of what I'm feeling right now is all placebo; but after living 29 years being sub 250 ng/dl test, I'm really loving legit TRT (Dr. Approved and monitored) 2 weeks in. My libido is nuts.. I'm actually talking to girls now and asking them out. Unsuccessfully, but I didn't even have the BALLS to do it before. I'd rather be rejected than go back to imagining talking to them and how it could've, would've, should've went.
Not only am I actually acting almost like a man, but my workouts are CRAZY good. I've always had long 2-3 hour workouts, full body, 3 times a week, but I tend to fatigue near the end or sometimes lost motivation. Not recently tho, not once. My workouts have been the best they've ever been.
The biggest problem I'm having now is all it's done is made me more and more eager to go on some real doses and some other compounds. 3 months ago I thought that if I ever did TRT and maybe experimented with BnC, Id never touch Tren. Now it looks like it'll be the 3rd thing I try after EQ and NPP. Might try Proviron or Mast too, but a little concerned over acne issues as Ive heard Mast can cause some really shitty effects for unlucky people.
>>37437669
yeah
probs delete that
>>37437779
and yeah its legit
Who here /tattooed the fuck up/? Got both sleeves done, looking to get a full body suit eventually.
>>37435900
quality jeans, decent fitting t-shirts and tailored casual button-downs, and something like these with a matching belt
that's like going-out clothes for any young* professionals
*20-40+
>>37436127
>Grow a beard
... goddamnit
btw cunt do you have a gaybaby fb account? should add my throwaway, I'm sure you could find it from any of the pnw peoples friends list
>>37436144
tinder's nice around me cause there's like a sea of desperate suburban milfs and also 4+ colleges worth of daddy issues
>>37437889
headed in that direction, although probably not that extreme
planning both sleeves with shoulder caps, full back piece, maybe pecs in the future
saw some real fuckin' neato shin pieces at this expo a month or so ago
>>37437837
Currently 6 weeks into first cycle (500mg test e for ~12 weeks).
If I wanted to cruise instead of coming off would 250mg/week be the right way to go?
Or should I just come off completely and then just b/c from the start?
>>37437944
My left sleeve is color. Right sleeve is b&g and I like that so much more and will likely do the rest of my body in b&g. I think I may have to black out my left sleeve... Or maybe get it lasered enough to redo in b&g
>>37437944
>tinder's nice around me cause there's like a sea of desperate suburban milfs and also 4+ colleges worth of daddy issues
yeah but you're probably not an aspie mate and can do just fine with women without tinder
thats my point, tinder is fine if you are already good with women, most of these guys would shoot themselves in the foot even if they managed to get the girl to meet up
>>37437956
if youve got hcg/hmg i would just come off
if you want to cruise, go down to 125-170mg/week
>>37437985
Feet are the true enemy, and they must be exterminated.
>>37437985
I'm pretty shit with wimmins IRL but I've nailed quite a few off tinder. Something about getting all the awkward shit out the way online first makes it easier for me. That or its the confidence of knowing she's already somewhat into me. It's hard for me to tell when a chick likes me or not IRL but if we've matched on tinder and she's already talking about sex then its easy.
>>37438010
>if she's talking about sex then shes easy.
Fixed that for you
>>37437889
I keep thinking about more tats but would that diminish the azusa one? Make it some pop art shit all of a sudden
>>37437992
Thanks bro, appreciate it.
>>37437975
don't think I'm gonna go color unless it's broad strokes, like little detailwork color just looks like shit ime
thinking scrollwork-like style for the arms, flowing to complement the underlying musculature with natural spaces to put sub-pieces in, so the scrollwork is like a framework interconnecting other pieces that follow a certain theme
more organic kind of scrollwork with a kind of primal theme for the right arm, complemented with a more like geometric style for the left and the accompanying more focused, mind over matter theme
I will say that I can't fucking stand pieces where it's just a jumblefuck of detail everywhere with no real strong use of complementary negative spaces, which is partially why I don't like colorwork either
>>37437985
well yeah, there is that too
pretty much just makes me able to be lazy and not have to put as much effort into finding an "in" to work with
>>37438036
Well obviously shes easy. 90% of the chicks on there are easy.
about to start my 1st cycle
will i need hcg? ive read mixed reponses saying for a 1st cycle you wont need it?
>>37438108
O/ get on fb.
>>37437709
> 100 mg Test-C/wk
That's a bitch dosage. Crank it up nigga.,
>>37438769
12ccs, CMON.
Alright /fraud/ my waist is a mens small but my chest is in between a large and a medium, what the fuck do I do tshirt wise?
>>37436387
same grill that invited you to that wedding?
If you roid to get them sweet genetics gains, and no one notices, we're you ever really not natty?
>>37438950
Yeah, that'd be her.
>>37438991
awk
>>37437153
Do you know if cyclefag sells PCT shit? I wanna do a dbol cycle but no idea where to get some PCT from.
>>37439219
ADC
he is a Chemist that ships All Day, everyday.
>>37439242
ships safely to Australia?
>>37439531
most ancillary stuff will get through customs fine.
HCG however, will be seized.
>>37439552
Is nolva/clomid pct fine for a first cycle or will I need hcg as well?
>>37439552
Ordering overseas always bugs me though, Just takes forever for it to come.
>>37439592
depends on your definition of fine
you will recover fine with time, but hcg will accelerate the process.
personally i think nolva and clomid are useless, but you will probably have them for gyno prevention anyway.
>>37439635
Whats your protocol for hcg?
I've heard both pin weekly on cycle or blast before pct
The difference DNP makes on your physique in such a short time is fucking amazing. I ran it before but never really paid close attention to how the water and glycogen depletion changes you.
This time, I paid special attention. Before I went on DNP, my body was hard as a rock, I wasn't too lean but I still had a shitload of visible definition everywhere.
However, I took 500mg of dnp on day 1, then 750mg to accelerate the build up a bit (was planning on running 500mg but changed my mind to run 500mg). Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
My body went from being hard as hell and feeling lean as fuck... To feeling like a fat ass bag of water with 0 muscle mass. I knew it was bad but THIS bad? Holy SHIT
>>37439698
250iu twice a week is pretty standard and will serve you fine
my personal protocol is quite a bit more uhhh aggressive but thats just because i was on for ages and my nuts were small
>>37439717
tfw low test natty (299 ng/dl) and i get 0 shrinkage from just test, i get it mild to strong on tren though.
>>37437332
Caber supposedly gets rid of the refractory period after cumming
>>37439717
Thanks kanga, i had planned on running 500iu/week!
Should I stop a week before end of cycle? I'm planning on using prop.
Starting some clen today and need help with dosage, if my clen is 150mcg/ml and i'm wanting to take a 50mcg dose, this means i would want 0.33ml of my liquid, correct?
>>37439705
i am such a bitch on dnp, 500 is way to much and i can't even handle.
wanna try a short run soon but it's summer, schools out so i'll be neet for a while. maybe i can handle.
>>37439915
That is how simple maths works, yes.
I would start at 60mcg (.4ml) and bump up by .1ml each time
Personally though I found clen to be underwhelming and apart from turning me in to michael j fox wasn't very useful.
any body else read this?
made me think about my life a little
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2300-swole-culture-perils-my-bodybuilding-addiction.html
>>37439705
mmm I'll be using DNP at the end of this bulk
Get that fat straight off and reveal the mass I'll have put on
Sup nerds
Rolling hard
>>37440082
Good shit then, eh? Have any good adventures yet?
>>37439705
yep
then you finish, drop the excess water, glycogen supercompensation kicks in, and you look fucking amazing
>>37440062
ahh cracked, irreproachable paragon of journalism
what a sad, dark, ignorant place the world would be without you
>>37440082
ruh roh
>>37440082
>My ex is a bad influence
>Does the drugs anyway
baka dogger
lol lads im just looking over some old dan duchaine material and his pct advice is better than EVERYTHING that was popular on the internet for the next fucking decade and a half after (he wrote this in 1992)
> Find an ideal time to stop the drugs. An ideal time is when you are training regularly, have tight control of your eating, and seem reasonably happy.
> Always taper the dosages, starting with injectables. The taper should go from full dosage to no dosage over a four week span.
Taper your tablet dosage down ever three days starting during the third week that injectables are tapered. Taper the toxic orals out first, i.e. taper Anadrol before Anavar.
Continue or add Nolvadex for 3-4 weeks after the steroid cessation, then taper the Nolvadex over a two week period.
> Begin HCG therapy at the end of the third week of the taper…usual dosage is 1,000 IUs every third day.
> Use effective non-steroidal anabolics immediately after stopping the steroids after the fourth week. Synthroid, Co B12, L-Dopa, Catapres, Arginine and Ornithine are recommended.
this is much more sensible and effective than the nolva/clomid "pct" that was preached for over a decade on steroid forums
dan duchaine is an unappreciated genius
>>37439884
no, continue hcg usage past the steroid esters. if you're using prop, id say continue the hcg for an extra week after your last prop shot
you can taper the hcg if you want, probably not going to make a difference though.
you may or may not feel like shit for a week after you stop everything, pretty typical but you should bounce back very quickly.
>>37440129
>tapering
>not waiting for esters to clear before PCT
full retard.
>>37440129
Got to "tapering" stopped reading
If someone thinks tapering is a good idea, they have no understanding of even basic science
>>37440205
>>37440129
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
>>37440205
this was written in 1992 m8
this was well before the days of google doctors
also lol at basic science. Tapering remains a common practice in almost all drug therapies in medicine
the only reason i say tapering is dumb with steroids is because typically the steroid is attached to an ester and there will be a natural taper going on anyway as you discontinue the drugs
>>37439925
last time i ran 500 i was also a bitch about it, i dealt with it though. if you do psmf on it you'll feel like shit but you will have 0 heat at all.
>>37439717
How much were you running? I just started HCG a moth or so ago and have been doing 350iu 2x wk. Been b&c for years though.
>>37440082
PNW crew has all the fun :^(.
>>37440082
is "rolling" codeword for getting fucked in the ass?
>>37437155
this is 4chan, what's gonna happen...
>>37440398
hcg is often in low supply here, so i hadnt used much over the years, when i finally did decide to get off for real and stay off, i did 20000ius separated into eod 2000 iu shots, and towards the end of that i did 450iu of HMG separated into 75iu ED shots.
it still took me about a month of being clean to actually feel recovered though. Which is absolutely great considering i was on and off for years.
didnt bother getting bloodwork, which some might regard as silly, but i have a good instinct for whats going on with my body now. I knew i wasnt recovered in the first few weeks, it was only in the 4th/5th week that i started to get oily skin , high libido and my muscles started to display good quality again.
ive been clean now for probably 6+ months at this point.
>>37440820
I heard you recommend 250mg test and 250mg tren for cutting on a PSMF
Would DNP or clen be a worthwhile addition?
>>37440820
how shrivelled are your balls? do they look like raisins yet?
>>37441049
I dont know enough about DNP's actions to make any worthwhile recommendation, but iirc DNP works best with plenty of carbs in the diet, which you will not have on a PSMF.
clen would be great on PSMF. Just make sure you're keeping well hydrated, and plenty of vitamins.
>>37441070
my balls never quite reached raisin size, but at one point they were small grapes and my left nut was getting REAL small and soft to the point i started getting scared lol
im happy to report my gonads are currently large egg size
>>37441095
actually doing exactly that
250 Test/250 Tren/60-80mcg Clen
Ran clen 2 weeks on, took 2 weeks off and added 250mg DNP in replacement. Felt fine desu, no carb heat obvs. We'll see what happens when the water comes off.
>>37441124
iirc you did this a few times yeah? what bf you think you're sitting at now just eyeballin it?
>>37441095
>they were small grapes and my left nut was getting REAL small and soft
Tfw this is my nuts right now. Been b&c for 2.5 years now.
I was thinking about running 500iu a week indefinitely until my balls get nice a juicy again and then maybe finally doing some pct and taking time off. Maybe I will have to go to 500iu e3d? Also what did you think of the HMG? I was thinking about picking up a bottle of this stuff but sadly my favorite source for gear who also is the only person I have seen carry HMG disappeared sometime over the last few weeks.
>>37441151
Third time this method, haven't used clen on a PSMF before tho
First time I fucked it by rebounding badly. Second time was great, went from around 11% to 7-8% in about 3-4 weeks, could have pushed calories lower and not had big refeeds, though. This time I'm still recovering from my car crash so I'm probably around 13% give or take, mostly around the midsection so it's going to be a shitty ride down.
>>37441168
i got legit pharma hmg. Comes in a fancy injection pen with a dose clicker. Was very expensive.
i couldnt tell you the difference to just running hcg alone to be honest, but thats not to say it didnt do anything, just that i couldnt perceive anything.
Guys swear black and blue that hmg makes recovery a breeze, so who knows.
with how long you've been on, if the 500 isnt making a a bit of aching in your nuts within a couple of weeks, you might need to step it up.
Dont worry about the fearmongering shit retards write about hcg on most forums. Every successful treatment of anabolic steroid related hypogonadism in the literature involved hyooge dosages of HCG for a very long period of time (one of the best results was 3 months of treatment, i forget the dosages but it was pretty fucking significant)
>>37441271
thats good to hear it worked well for you.
when i get around to it, I think I'm going to try documenting a complete fast for 7 days while on androgens.
>>37441301
It's easier than the long slog. The way I see it, if you had 20 weeks before X event, you can either cut at -500 cals for the 20 weeks and get there over the time.
OR
Spend 4-6 weeks drastic cutting. Spend 14-16 weeks growing lean with a decent dose of androgens. Much more time for everything.
I do add 30mcg of T3 in as well to keep metabolic rate that touch above average the whole way through as well. Might go 40mcg and throw a bit more protein in the form of casein in the day and see if that does me any better.
>>37441095
Are you thinking about hopping back on dat dere?
>>37441364
oh yes,
i have hyuge plans
incredible plans
its going to be really great folks
we're going to make sterons great again
>>37441371
Build a wall
>>37441374
Oh we are gonna build that wall folks. 100%
>order a batch a few months ago
>send payment
>receive everything in the mail except a vial of deca because they said they ran out of it but would send it as they got it in stock again
>fast forward to this week
>still no deca
>check their products
>they still hasn't got it back in store
>send email about it
>they apologize for the delay and sends me a tren for double the deca cost instead
nice
Anyone avoided testicular atrophy on a cycle by taking HCG throughout and not just during PCT? If so what dosage and how much did it cost you?
Once I am down to ~12% bf I would like to try my first cycle. Perhaps 500mg test/week, something else to stack with it, an AI like nolvadex etc, HCG during if could afford + PCT.
>>37441979
Lol @HCG during PCT
Is it worth running 25-30mg/day of mk677 I was thinking of picking some up from the eBay guy.
>>37441957
Shit they should've offered the tren to you when your made the original purchase. At least they came through.
>>37441281
Wtf... HMG does no more for PCT that HCG can.
HMG is only better if you want fertility.
>>37441993
Well the store is on a forum and they have a reputation to take care of, but yea
I'm planning to get on roids in a month or two off the first time. What should I be doing in the meantime for preparation? Get as lean as possible? I'm 12% currently but have annoying fat on lower stomach and sides. Is there really a difference between getting on at 12-13% vs 9-10?
>>37441986
How so?
>>37438769
I will eventually. The goal now is to find the ideal cruise dose. So I'm gonna keep this up for a while, see how I feel, then get bloods . My first blast will probably be around 450 test a week. And depending on how I feel on that, my 2nd blast should be 6 or 900 EQ with the 450 test to build some thick veins.
>>37442084
lower bf means less aromatization and more effect for less volume injected, so ye
>>37438912
Spend a little extra money if you can.
Go made to order.
You're going to have a hard time finding clothes that fit off the rack.
>>37437518
What is the website?
>>37441993
>Is it worth running 25-30mg/day of mk677 I was thinking of picking some up from the eBay guy.
Yes 25 is great although I think 50MG is the sweet spot personally.
>>37442158
Link to eBay guy
>>37441957
Whats the point of one vial of tren tho
feel into the juden's trap and bought some ibutamoren. and took 25mg pwo on friday, measured on a microscale..
first off IT TASTES TERRIBLE AND STICKS ON YOUR MOUTH LIKE GODDAMN HOT PEPPER HOLY SHIT IS IT BAD
So I've got a couple of questions
>I really did get ravenous hunger, this is normal and expected, but should it last more than a day? I didn't re-dose and I'm still hungry
>I felt cold, tired and weak at the end of my workout, can GH secretagogues leave you hypoglycemic or some other shit? I trained fasted that day but I'm used to it
Ass for your knowledge fellow frauds
>>37441993
Who is this ebay guy
>>37442172
I can make do with it with what else I already have
>>37442168
>>37442181
I am the eBay guy. Please search item number 262425598663. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. I should be online all day until around 7pm eastern.
Have been lifting for over a year but the gains have been hard to come by. Finally went to the doctor and had Test levels of 124. 26 years old and he said he thinks it's still ok and shouldn't really be an issue. Should I at least get a second opinion on it, if not just blast the fuck out of Test E?
>>37442233
>>37442179
>p-pls respond, I probably bought from you
this reminds me I must drop a review
>>37442276
>this reminds me I must drop a review
Please do! I need feedback badly lol. If anyone posts a review with bloods I will hook you up with some free shit.
>>37442179
mk 677 has a decently long half life so increased hunger for 2 days makes sense
increased gh should increase blood sugar levels if anything
>>37442307
have you shipped internationally? any trouble?
>>37442389
Yes I have had one order rejected via ebay global shipping for ostarine being shipped to Canada. I am gonna drop the global shipping program and go back to shipping through another service so I can control the customs paperwork. I have successfully sent mk677 to Brazil to some anon but had to declare it as tryptophan to pass customs. He did receive his order and left me a review.
TLDR yes I can ship international but it will not be free shipping.
>>37442179
The hunger is a bitch. It's worse than Marijuana munchies by far in my opinion. I dose 50mg with my last meal of the day or right before bed to avoid the hunger.
Other than just suck it up is there any way to make dbol pumps less painful? my forearms ache so much when doing anything involving arms.
>>37442644
Taurine
>>37442644
Taurine, cialis, balancing sodium/potassium/fluids
has anyone tried fasting on Tren?
>>37442674
Guess I'll give cialis a go I was told I might need it but nobody told me why cheers to both of you.
>>37442790
The third one will have the most profound effect, taurine more so than cialis as well
"A year long study in the elderly noted a cortisol increase with MK-677. Other studies find no increase.
In that same study, serum GH returns to near zero, but not zero, in between spikes. This is not preferable according to common theory, which reasons that for males particularly, GH bleed can cause insulin resistance.
N=1, I felt that I gained fat mass on a surplus diet while using MK-677, which I attributed to insulin resistance. Since stopping and switching to injection GHRP-2/Ipamoreling + MOD CJC, my fat mass has decreased mildly."
>>37442968
I think people really over exaggerate the supposed insulin resistance issues. I have been using MK for almost a year now and I really have nothing negative to say about it.
>>37443009
I'm tempted to give it a shot, what noticeable benefits have you seen since you started?
Does taking it at night eleviate the hunger? I become a monster when I smoke weed and if the munchies are anything like that i can't be trusted
>>37443077
>what noticeable benefits have you seen since you started?
Skin looks much better, less wrinkles and what not. I have found it easier to stay lean despite eating junk food on the regular. I have also gained some quality lean mass despite being on a 150mg test cyp cruise for the last 7 months or so. Better sleep and I wake feeling energized and hungry and my stomach feels completely empty like my body actually used all the food I gave it. I tend to have a small breakfast around 500-700 calories and then a huge 2000+ calorie dinner. After dinner I am a bloated fat mess but it's all gone the next day.
>Does taking it at night eleviate the hunger?
Yes I take it with my last meal or right before bed and this way you are asleep while your body is trying to convince you that you are starving.
how long does a gram of mk677 last?
>>37443218
1g = 1000mg
>>37443218
Depends on dose. If dosing at 25mg you will get 40 doses.
>>37443149
Sounds like it's worth it, I'll have a look for some. What's your dosing like? I've seen some people doing a 5 day on 2 day off schedule
>>37443237
>5 day on 2 day off schedule
This is silly in my opinion. I do occasionally take one day off but it is not usually intentional. After the one day off it does seem to hit a bit harder but generally speaking I have been on 50mg/day for months without any breaks.
How much should I be spending on button down shirts? And how the hello kitty are decent shoes $250+? Shieeeeeeeeet.
>>37443661
senior consultant here.. own a shitton of button down shirts and spend around $45-50 on new ones.
decent shoes would be in the area of $500, but i never bought into that shit. i rather buy a new pair of semi-ok shoes per year at around $80..
Getting deployed in 2 months - it's a surprise BC Reserves.
I've only read cycles for beginners that last a minimum of 3-4+ months. Can anyone direct me to a very short, modest cycle to run while focusing on moderate lifting/PT oriented stuff?
I know it's a really esoteric post, but help a bro out familampai.
>>37442179
do you take it on an empty or full stomach? I don't really feel anything from mine. I know it is legit though. Put it in some paper and fold it, then swallow to avoid the disgusting bitter chemical flavor.
>>37443840
>230 5'11" just finished tren run now cutting for 8 weeks
Oh lawdy
Daily REMINDER that JM did gay4pay and ran away like a little BITCH while CHAD bimbo is doing gay4pay and EMBRACES it slaying guys and girls
>Daily reminder brought to you by CHAD
>>37443872
>Put it in some paper and fold it, then swallow
Try vegetable glycerin with some flavor added
Are you supposed to do hcg while on cycle to maintain your gonads? Or is it supposed to be paired with pct?
>>37443936
On cycle to keep the boys going rather than waiting twice as long for recovery post cycle.
> dreams are getting crazier, more vibrant, and incepting into reality
> supplements/apps/people/places that don't exist, conversations/events that never happened, studies that were never done
> "Young men with Low Testosterone more likely to develop Manic Bipolar Disorder"
> look it up, it might actually be true
> then that occasional dream with the long-term ex that makes it impossible to get up and face the present
>>37442179
>>37442968
> mixing MK-677 in Everclear
> I'll just dump the bag into a funnel into this little TraceMinerals bottle
Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. It hasn't dissolved yet either. Took first dose yesterday, so far...
> crazy appetite, raid all the cold cuts at 2 am last night
> wake up, always skip breakfast but today ran to the kitchen and made an egg sandwich, it was orgasmic
> cranky AF with bitches in my way when I'm trying to cook
> sleepy
> weak
> woke up with gyno
Anyway, apparently 25 mg ED can bring your GH and IGF-1 levels 20% above the normal range. If you're GH deficient ie. bald, it may not work as well. Wouldn't worry about insulin resistance considering Piano Man and the likes aren't videoblogging about their diabetes.
>>37443936
HCG isn't really necessary unless you're deep into a cruise and just want them working or you're planning on coming off of a cruise. you don't need it for cycles.
>>37443859
nothing really you can pin worthwhile for 2 months. maybe test prop and tren ace. make sure you can make the most of your PCT when you come off.
otherwise you can just get some AI and PCT and run some kind of oral for awhile. maybe dbol or var.
>>37443959
>mixing MK-677 in Everclear
> I'll just dump the bag into a funnel into this little TraceMinerals bottle
>Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. It hasn't dissolved yet either. Took first dose yesterday, so far...
Make sure you rinse the baggy out with some ever clear so you can get every bit of gains. Also if the powder won't fully suspend try heating up the bottle with the solution in the microwave or in a pot of water just off boil.
>>37443915
Is it weird I respect bimbo more for doing g4p but respect him way less for staying in a relationship with that abusive chick
>>37443915
I don't know why JM is ashamed of it. Making money off pictures of your nude body -- not a big deal. Great deal actually. Privacy as we know it is evaporating. There's millions of girls posting their tits online and millions of exes posting their ex-bfs/gfs online. If you've ever taken a nude photo of yourself on your phone; it's out there. Hackers/government/corps are rummaging through your data at all times and Apple/Google/Microsoft has probably uploaded your nudes to 'the cloud' at least twice without your consent.
The thing is, it's just human nature, we're all born out of sin, only difference now is that we're a bit more interconnected. If you stress about someone seeing your ass online or care enough to dox people and broadcast their pictures -- you're holding on obsolete notions of narcissism. And this extends to steroids; if you give a shit about people discussing steroids online; you're an idiot and a traitor. If you think the government cares about our naked asses or our discussion of cattle hormones online; you're naive.
I figured out a way to make 'X-ray vision goggles' to see through clothes but I don't have the resources to develop it. I imagine we'll soon have cameras that can take a picture of shit around a corner, like you naked if a window/door is open. Cameras that record everything from every angle at every moment in time. Direct interface devices so even your thoughts won't be private. Ya'll niggas need to transcend.
hi
>>37444267
Sup yo?
>>37444386
life is p yolo atm breh
>finances
fuckt (will get payed soon tho)
>drug stash
running low f.am
>girls
we dont even go there
>>37444417
What's your drug of choice? I enjoy the shit out of some liquor personally
>>37444461
>What's your drug of choice?
wasnt talking about rec drugs
but I wana do md soon
>>37444417
>girls
>we dont even go there
Good
Women are all worthless, you're only improving your life by ignoring them
>>37444477
>you're only improving your life by ignoring them
>ignoring them
h o w
>>37444461
Psychedelics are pretty awsome bruh. I am even grateful for the bad trips.
Arnold was an alcoholic that snacked on D-bol and Primobolan like candy. He's more successful than any of us and kept his hair. Why don't we follow his way?
What is the best steroid for good feels and motivation? I hear it's D-bol. Can't beat the classics? Tren certainly doesn't make me feel alpha anymore.
>>37444500
Yeah but not salvia or other dissasociatives
And i dont want introspection anymore
Souls fukt
>>37444500
Never tried them and don't really have an interest. Used to do mdma when I was younger but I just stick to weed and alcohol now.
>>37444153
He's probably scared someone would share them with relatives, colleagues etc.
Like is said; the key is to not give a fuck, but he rather ran away like a little girl. But if i would do g4p, i would never put penis pics online in the first place. On the other hand, I would have no problem with showing my asshole. If someone pays me to show my anus, kek be my guest
>>37444506
mirin triggering picture
>>37442389
Has anything changed w.r.t. your ostarine cycle? Did you decide to hop off?
I've just started one now, going 3mg for two days, 6mg for two days and then 12.5mg for 6 weeks before going off of it for 4+ weeks. Curious to see if anything will happen -- I'm expecting results (if any) to materialize after 2-or-so weeks.
