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cheating frauds general

>it aint easy being skeezy, senpai

prev >>37220972
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>>37227454
first faggots
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>>37227510
2nd
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niggers will be put to death
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Do i need to do PCT when cruising on 250mg test e and coming off after 1 year?
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>>37227587
obviously, yes.
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>>37227604
Even if i feel fine with no sides?
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>>37227614
can you just try and use your fucking non existent nigger brain for five seconds before wasting everyones time?

this piece of shit probably didn't even buy ancillaries before starting which is why hes asking this dumb shit
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>>37227614
I'd still recomend you pct.
It'll speed up your natty test recovery.
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500 test wk1-20
500 eq wk 1-20
40md dbol wk1-4
then drop to a 200 test cruise.
reasonable second cycle?
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>>37228013
500 eq is a little low desu. You're cruising after?
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>>37228021
Sorry I missed that line. You're gtg
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>>37228013
up the eq to 800
otherwise looking gr8 m8
could do dbol on and off throughout the blast like 4 weeks on 4 weeks off if you wanted to
or just take it preworkout whenever
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>>37228057
i get my eq in 250 amps.
was gonna do 2 injections a week, but maybe up it to mon-wed-fri and do 750?
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>>37228135
Yes. But who the fuck sells eq in amps?
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Seriously,what do you have to run to look like this??He also lifts literally every day.
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>>37228135
mod morning
wed night
sat morning
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>>37228154
It wouldn't matter with eq
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>>37228135
amps are so fuckin gay, worst invention ever
yeah that sounds fine, its not like eq is going to be completely useless below an arbitrary line but the general consensus is 800+ for efficacy
>>37228147
alpha pharma among lots of other "pharma" ugls
>>37228151
you will never look exactly like that, genetics etc etc
anyone who claims to be able to tell what someone is taking just by looking at them is probably lying
>lifts literally every day
lots of dyels who go to my gym lift every day
monday: biceps
tuesday: triceps
wednesday: LEG DAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thursday: chest
friday: back
saturday: calves
sunday: forearms

doesnt mean anything at all
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does tren e respond to an oral kickstart like test does?
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>>37228197
That's not how it works.
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>>37228194
>>37228151

Apart from the frame/genetics/instertions, couldnt you look like that, by simply cruising on 300 test e or more and having low bf + good muscle maturity (3+ years) ?

Seriously there are people who look close to this natty, so i feel test e is all you need for this if you put some effort into it.

Dont be like Bostin Loyd, pinning 10x a day with 5 different hormones and still looking shit.
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>>37228292
>apart from just about everything that matters, isn't it possible
eh, maybe
hard to tell from just a picture
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>>37227786
>>37227841
stop posting underaged girls. I will report you to the fbi, you dirty pedophile

>>37228151
take the bbc in the ass, fully penetrated

ed/eod for stable cock levels
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>>37228197
lol

>>37228354
fight me
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>>37228292
Wow, this is a persisted troll. I'am baffled

mirin skills

>>37228386
you wanna do some wrestling in a mud pool, while your gf is watching?
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>>37228429
>you wanna do some wrestling in a mud pool, while your gf is watching?
n-no
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Okay, so what do i do now guys?
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>>37227454
I'm going to the beach soon and won't be able to inject for six days. I'm running npp right now will I be ok if I miss 6 days or am I screwed?
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>>37228534
Youre literally going to die
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ayo dawgs, if i am prone to hairloss and acne, but not to gyno.

Does it mean, that i will get more hairloss and more acne, but no gyno if i get on test ?
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>>37228599
Be serious with me anon will it completely clear my system in six days or will I be ok as long as I inject the second I get back?
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>>37228453
inject all of it before you go to the gym
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>>37228609
It's likely.
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>>37228609
more or less
how do you know whether or not youre prone to gyno without having been on steroids, though?
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>>37228453
this isn't your full cycle, i presume

>>37228609
even when you're not prone, you can still expiernce some 'hair shedding' at higher doses of test. At least, that's with me.

Winny does nothing with my hair even at higher dosis, neither i'am pre-balding.

If you're prone to acne, kek. Good luck in PCT m8


it's crazy

i'am glad i'am not balding.
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>>37228639
>>37228636

The thing is, i dont care about acne or hairloss, but i do care a lot bout gyno.

Well, if you never had even the slightest tiny fucking tad bit of gyno in your life, doesnt that mean i am NOT prone to gyno?

Thats the same with acne and hairloss isnt it?

You know you are prone to hairloss and acne, if you have without taking any steroid.

>inb4 this isnt how it works

im a noob hehh
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>>37228609
>Filming some qt in church.

Oke.

>>37228453
What the fuck is your cycle and why do you only have one vial of bold?
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>>37228694
>Well, if you never had even the slightest tiny fucking tad bit of gyno in your life, doesnt that mean i am NOT prone to gyno?
not really, no
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>>37227454
What is this type of filter and where can you use it?
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>>37228715
http://www.cartoonize.net/
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Is zydex any good
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>>37228714
Well, guess im gonna wait a bit until i switch to the dark side.

Im scared now heh
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this is the most complete/perfect physique ever

hands down

what do i take to become like him guiyz?
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>>37228830
8iu gh 69iu slin 2500test

skip calve day
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Could you guys please answer this for me? >>37228534
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>>37229034
It's not ideal, it's also not the end of the world. Why can't you take stuff with you?

Obviously it's better for your bloods to be stable, if you genuinely can't take stuff with you I guess just go with it and get back on track ASAP.
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>>37229034
>not stashing away vials of test undec for this very reason

get a load of this guy
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>>37228690
How long after pct until the acne stops?
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guys, if youre prone to acne and hairloss will 250mg test-e be followed with horrible sides or is it manageable?
I hope finasteride can alleviate the hair loss but Im more afraid of using accutane since its sides sound infinitely worse
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Flying out for my first shoot. Loaded up on 300mg tren today and 300mg test e. Should look a little fuller.
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>>37229395
"shoot" aka g4p
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>>37229455
Jerrbears for duh, anon. Are you eager lmao?
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>>37229472
make sure to "leak" the album afterwards so you too can solidify your position in meme history
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>>37229395
Fucking legend dude this is amazing
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>>37229481
"No"
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>>37229395
RIP homo

Never forget
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What can I expect out of 350 tren a, 350 npp, 500 test E C
24 week cycle on a 800-1100kcal/D bulk besides insane gains?
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>>37229602
Remember me as I was anon, not who I am.
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Will 600mg Test give you any face or jaw gains? If you chew gum/suck cock 24/7?

Or is that only tren?
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Got random tren cough 2 days after I pinned. Also felt like I was going to explode. Literally. Ffs, my body was going purple from lack of oxygenated blood.

What drug will we blame this on?
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>>37229307

We can't tell you what will happen
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>>37229756
This is a dope stack. Personally I feel tren and nandrolone are a legit cocktail; I love tren's look but at 6'4 it leaves me flat. The npp maintains fullness plus it's feel good.
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>>37229395
First??
I thought you already did G4P
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>>37229778
Speaking of this as another guy, does chewing gum on tren help with jaw gains?
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>>37228694
There's no 100% way to know how your body will react to roids

This is why we say to only do a regular dose of test with ai/pct on hand for your first cycle - so you can get a basic understanding of how you react to it

Then each cycle you add something new, you can get an idea of how it also treats you

And if something fucks up you have some idea which roid is causing it
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>>37229778
Yes. I just came off a 2 year cruise and my masseters are noticeably smaller
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>>37229911
What roids do you have experience with again?
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>>37229808
Or as brick would say "how many strings can you hold?"
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>>37229924
Grill ones

But I've read enough about men's cycles to not be a complete retard
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>>37229935
Thanks for clarifying that you don't know shit
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>>37229935
Lol.
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>>37229948
Did you ask something retarded at some point and I told you to Google it?
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>>37229812
Are those good ratios? I like test a bit above npp for dick perseverance, but I'm not sure how high I wanna take tren especially for 24 weeks.
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>taking steroids as a female
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>>37229986
Way to deflect from your ignorance :^)
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>>37229995
Dafaq do you think all those instagram babes you fap to do?
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>>37229762
You are aware that some fruitcake will get a copy of this g4p stuff and plaster it everywhere?

They have a strange dedication to that shit
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>>37229948
That's literally the exact answer any of us would have given you because that's the common sense answer. Start with your lowest common denominator: test. Add in new compounds once you've gotten a feel for test and AI protocol.

Every side is individual specific: test at over a gram doesn't give me any major e2 sides, but 20mg dbol can give me itchy nipples despite never having formed a lump.

You can't look a gift horse in the mouth duder: ESTP may not have experience with more potent androgens but she's not the fucking retard calling out people trying to help.
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>>37230028
Pretty sure only fat weirdos fap to ripped shredded bitches
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>>37230014
>implying I haven't adequately answered enough retard questions in these threads

Ok, ok, ok
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>>37230028
How's those voice changes treating you
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>>37229995
>not encouraging more fit bitches to eat var for ultimate fuckmeat and eye candy status
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>>37230039
Ya the problem with your faggoty wall of text is that I never commented on her advice.

I commented on the issue of her giving advice on men's cycles.

She was right. This time

Now get on your knees and blow me you white knight bitch
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>>37229994
They're okay. Most people like tren higher than test; there could be evidence that tren and test metabolites combined are what cause shitty feeling sides with tren. Personally, I don't feel that ever and I do sometimes like test higher than tren.

If I were you id start with 350 across the board.
>>37230033
Jerrbears

Yeah probably. Be good to me anons!
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>>37230074
Nah I'm the top duder and I'm rough. Buckle up.
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>>37230051
Nobody comes here to have Wikipedia parroted to them by an ignorant lady

People want answers from dudes with experience
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>>37230039
Thanks bimbo. I get the impression this is just the same random faggot that comes around periodically trying to rile us

Not the op of the question

But who knows
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>>37230093
Sorry white knights lose their top privileges. Now spread em
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>>37230139
>white knight
This isn't r9k duder. I'm pretty sure ESTP is a dude, anyhow. You're upset and that's okay but lashing out online seems silly.

Ask me more questions if you're curious. I'm just at the airport killing time.
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>>37230078
>Yeah probably. Be good to me anons!
Do your family know you're doing it?

What would they say if they found out?
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>>37230096
>basic medical science
>B-BUT I WANT SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE! I COULD'VE LOOKED THAT UP ON WIKIPEDIA!! YOU AREN'T THE RIGHT PERSON TO SPOOFED! !!

I've even done test so technically I do have experience in this

You're just asshurt for no raisen
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>>37230175
why would you do test wtf
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>>37230220
So I could snap your dick off with my thighs duh is that even a question jeez get on muh level
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>>37230175
I've seen what test does to women firsthand. Woof.
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>>37229756
I'd run caber with that to control prolactin.

Even though you might be fine without it.
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>>37230248
post routine

do you have monstrous ceps or just work qt butt and legs, deets
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>>37230014
kill yourself
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>>37230048
hey, im not that fat
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>>37230354
But you could become fat.
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Lads, hit me up with a good beginners cycle please.

Can get my hands on test e and dbol.

Will order AIs and PCT myself.

Mgs/week? For how long? Safe to stack on 1st cycle?
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>>37230378
not yet
i have to squat 3xbw first
then maintain 3xbw until i weigh 400 lbs
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>>37230382
read the fucking sticky
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>>37230382
250 test e Monday and Thursday
20mg dbol preworkout everyday indefinitely if you want
250mg Tudca Ed

Experiment with AI.
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>>37230382
500 mg test e
25 mg Dbol
Anti e: aromasin 12.5 EOD

12 weeks.

Pct: Clomid

Safety level: moderate
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fraud is slow today ,_,
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>>37230697
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What's a good bulking stack? I'm BnC No tren though cause it thins my hair, and so does mast but 10x
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>>37230418
sdrol has really fucked with my digestion
constipated af and what little comes out is almost as black as my soul
not liver related since im taking tudca, my piss is clear, no liver pain as i usually get when my liver is stressed, some lethargy but not too bad
what do? currently treating it with otc laxatives but id rather treat the source of the problem
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>>37230729

Yo. 'lo.
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>>37229794

Pls respond
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Need some experienced advice please.

Running 600mg Test E per week.
.25 arimidex EOD.
Prone to gyno, hairloss & high blood pressure.
Just gone into my 3rd week.
Experiencing low libido and mild lethargy, Chest tightness & nips slightly puffy,
I still wake up with morning wood. Orgasms are still good.
Unsure if it's because estrogen is getting too high or too low.

Here's a photo of my gf's tittays for your troubles.
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>>37230871

That's a bikini. Not titties.
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>>37230871
high e2 would be my guess
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>>37230886
Well that's all you're going to get you little pervert
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>>37230848
tough call, but ima say left
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>>37230871
using pharma adex or nah?
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>>37230911

Left is a womanlet.

Nah, right is just tall.
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>>37230942
>>37230911

>>37230859

Thoughts? It scared me.
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>>37229929
>>37230078
>Or as brick would say "how many strings can you hold?"

d'aww

>Most people like tren higher than test; there could be evidence that tren and test metabolites combined are what cause shitty feeling sides with tren.

actually a lot of what I've seen postulated leans more towards tren's higher binding affinity causing higher aromatization rates because of the resultantly elevated total/free test, if mast didn't monkey with estrogenic receptors it'd do the same thing because of the shbg blunting

>>37230074
>>37230096

I could park a fucking monkey in front of the screen for 6 months and it'd be able to answer the same goddamn questions, this bullshit has been discussed ad nauseam already

>>37230443
>Pct: Clomid

pls

100mcg triptorelin once all esters have cleared completely or
100mcg luliberin ed x 10d after clearing

maybe a teeny bit of asin, no serms at all

and before somebody starts saying anything retarded, the "bad" dosage protocol of triptorelin is literally 40x what's needed for pct, and that "bad" dosage has to be repeated monthly

luliberin's the kinder, gentler gnrh but slightly harder to find

>>37230859

something besides tren, no idea what

>>37230911

had a yolo moment yesterday, was trying not to stare at this fit little blonde smoke show in the gym

point her out to gym bro, he says she's 16 and I'm like do I look like I give a fuck?
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>>37230942
Looks like this
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>>37230970

I'm going with dnp, but it was EXACTLY like tren cough...

Check your phone. I'm winning.
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>>37230946
tfw tall gf :/

>>37230970
> he says she's 16 and I'm like do I look like I give a fuck?
tru yolo.
just embrace it breh

>>37230983
idk
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>>37230970

I have this "yolo" issue a lot when out clubbing in Belgium. It's still 16 and up there. So 14-15 isn't uncommon.

So wrong... Only reason I dont is because I want long term stuff.
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>>37231016
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>>37231024
16 is g2g in saffa
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So i just injected tren a, e and test e into left vg and started coughing unctrollably for 3 minutes, got nauseous and felt like shit

What happened and how do i prevent it from happening again?
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>>37230970
your input would also be appreciated >>37230836
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>>37231095
You hit a vein, itll go away in 3 days.
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>>37231016
Are you sure?
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>>37231095
>What happened and how do i prevent it from happening again?
tren cough.
it happends when you nick a vein.

>>37231107
100%
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>>37231095
That's tren cough. Always aspirate to make sure you aren't in a vein
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I realized the other day why its so hard to pinpoint the 'natural limit'

Anybody who is devoted to their diet and training enough that they can reach the absolute maximum capacity the human body can maintain, is someone who is going to use roids.

No one who is that serious and comitted is going to pass up any advantage they can get.
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>>37231107
10/10 boobs btw
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>>37229241
>How long after pct until the acne stops?
It will build up, till a point you wanna commit suicide. After you survived this process, there are a few options you can consider:

1.you take accutane. This will make your acne problem less worse in 2 months, but will make anything else much worse.

2.you just let it there untreated and it will stay there forever and everyone will make fun of you.
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>>37230970
>point her out to gym bro, he says she's 16 and I'm like do I look like I give a fuck?
sm.h, you also.

this place is infected with pedophiles. fucking yolo started this hype
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>>37231200
>tfw dating an 8/10 RDN in her late 20's
Feels good
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>>37231145
That sounds pretty bad dude

What's option c?
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>>37231289
Not running gear
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> stopped drinking, day 3
> non-stop headache
> sleeping 12 hours straight
> crazy vibrant dreams and half-awake hallucinations
> they're getting more complicated, more detailed, have more control
> nails are growing about 14X faster
> have gained the ability to visually generate random faces

But the dream world is incepting into the awake world and the lines that define reality are becoming ever more blurred. Conversations that didn't happen, errands done/undone, strong Mandela effect, and scary ass hallucinations. I'm descending further into madness.

I'd like to assert with no evidence that men with greater IQs when controlling for race/etc -- tend to go bald.
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>>37231239
my nigga

>>37231289
you try to skin yourself alive as option 3.

i have been through this process 2 times. It's one of the main reasons i might consider to cruise instead of PCT.

and the funny part is; when the acne is gone, you are still left with red spots, because your skin need to heal from the acné. And there is the catch; that stays even longer there than the acne. Isn't that hilarious
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>>37231379
That sucks
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>>37231343
Those greentext symptoms are from sleep deprivation. I had a similar experience seeing people and faces with my eyes closed and realized much later it was severe sleep deprivation, probably some kind of ghetto REM activity
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>>37231289
be less of a fucktard
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>>37231474

This. I get that after 90+ hours of being awake. Or at least no more than 6h of sleep
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>>37231460
that's quite an understatement.

it's a long-term disaster.
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>>37231474
>>37231512

It would be the narcolepsy getting out of control in my case. I sleep too much and the 'Sleep Cycle' app claims it's decent quality. I'm so fucked.
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>>37231508
What do you mean?
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>>37230039

Hey, im >>37228694

This asshole isnt me >>37229948

Thanks

>>37229911
>>37230039

for your output
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>>37231649
I find tren + narcolepsy is a good combination.

I actually get regular person sleep now. The trensomnia balances everything out.
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>>37231200

not like I'm going to creep on her or some shit, but there's no way you can convince me that mirin some stupidly hot chick is somehow wrong when she presses every biological imperative button in a guy's head and you can't tell she's 16 even after someone tells you

>>37231239

and it's not like I'm exclusively fetishizing jailbait, I've got no problems going after chicks my own age up to mid-40s if they've taken care of themselves

>>37231099

black like tarry, coffee-ground shits?

cuz that's upper gi bleeding and es no bueno
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>>37231145
>anything else much worse

What do you mean by this, masT?
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What's the likelihood of developing acne on cycle? and what can you do to best prepare yourself?

I've read about people taking accurate pre-emptively, yay or nay?

I feel like a 500mg per week test e would hopefully be manageable side effects wise, shit man I want to go to the dark side bros, I think I'm ready
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>>37231804
I wasn't passing judgment my dude. Just reflecting and blog posting.
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>>37231804
Yeah blood in poo isn't good, means internal bleeding, get that seen to
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>>37231814
Keep estrogen in check and you will be fine.
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>>37231754

Yeah, best sleep of my life on Tren+HCG. Test seems to fuck it up. But, there's a high probability that Tren causes hair loss.

My teeth are going to shit too despite gallons of milk and brushing/mouthwashing religiously. Ever since the Low T set in, up to 30 cavities, the outer layers on the front teeth seem to be a bit transparent creating this nasty appearance. There's something horribly wrong.
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>>37231877
Yeah that was my understanding of these issues, I've got asin which I was intending on taking 12.5mg e3d from week 1 and see how I go from there

I'm also trying to get my bf% down as realistically it's probably around 14% and I'd like to get under 10% before starting
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>>37231908
You need to reevaluate your nutrients. That doesn't just happen without there being a sever deficiency.
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>>37231832

more using your case to contrast and elaborate my own point, nbd

>>37231874

it's a simple diagnostic heuristic too

black, coffee ground or tar-like poop means upper gi since it's partially digested platelets

actual recognizable blood means it's lower since it hasn't been processed by the gut enough to turn into the first case
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>>37231814
If you half your test dose and add 250mg deca, less estrogen will be converted as deca makes like 1/5 as much e2 as test does. Less chance of acne and essentially make the same gains. Keeping upping deca gradually to grow.
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>>37231908
You do recrational drugs dont you?
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>>37231908
Mill protein actually causes calcium to be leeched from your bones to balance your blood ph

Drop the milk and take a liquid calcium+magnesium supplement instead
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>>37231814
Honestly depends on the person. Some guys dont get acne from 3g of test a week.

I get acne for months and months from 500mg a week. I dont even touch test anymore.
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>>37231959

Actually.. it's probably Celiac disease. Mom has it. Have about 50 of the symptoms. Sigh, I don't know why I've ignored that possibility.

>>37231992

No, prescribed controlled-release lis-d-amphetamine for the Narcolepsy/ADD. Planning to go off, it's probably not meth mouth though. Phenibut, caber on/off, modafinil on/off, shitloads of caffeine, alcohol only recently.

>>37232039
> milk is bad for your teeth

Come on, really? I'm consuming 4 g+ calcium a day from milk alone.

>>37231814

Only get it going off cycle, high dosages or Tren.
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>>37231984
Hmm as good of an idea as this sounds, and one I'm not completely against as this is this is my first cycle I was just planning on sticking with test to start with

as I said before I'm going to get my bf down and then just try and keep on top of the estrogen and have mid cycle bloods
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>>37232095
Dehydration wrecks teeth, drugs like the amphetamines are a culprit
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>>37232095
What you're doing isn't working lol

Whatever I tried
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>>37231804
I know right. The younger girls look way older than they actually are these days. Probably to confuse us. Right babe?

but rationally speaking, it would be weird to have a stable relationship with a 16-year old if you're in your mid twenties. Or do other things with it, for that matter.

>>37231812
I mean by that the side-effects of accutane.

You could be lucky and have minor side-effects, or you can have severe depression/suicidal thoughts, extreme form of legarthy. and so on. It can have really shitty side-effects.

So first you got the pct-depression en then you got acne and then you got the depression/suicidal thoughts from accutane.
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>>37232095

Milk has galactose which is sugar. So yes.

Awesome name though. GALACTOSE.
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>>37232095
>Only get it going off cycle, high dosages or Tren

Funny how different people can be, tren has never given me a single spot. Even running at 1g/week.
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>>37232128
Add to that an obscene dose of tren.

Poor diet and dehydration are horrible for oral health.

Fix those yuck mouth teeth 30 cavities is extremely alarming.
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>>37232132

I only get acne when I really fuck up my dosing. Like double dose, then nothing for 10 days or so. And obviously I'm forgetting AI as well.

Idgaf, I thought I had an outbreak a few weeks ago. Took me 30 seconds to figure out new AI and dosing. Now I only have a few ingrown hairs because I was an idiot and used my trimmer at its lowest setting. I usually leave 3 or 4mm.
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>>37232136
Tren only gives me problems coming off it. I imagine it's a homeostatic response to being on tren. Remove tren and the body needs to readjust (which takes time)
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>>37232097
I see 500mg test as more risky. If you really want to do things safely, start with 250mg test and either add more test or introduce deca. Whichever you choose, have asin and a serm on hand obv.
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>>37231804
>black like tarry, coffee-ground shits?
nah, looks like regular poop but its dark af
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>>37232191

No. That's stoopid.

You start with 400/700 test/tren e and add mast e a week later.

And as a kickstart msten with mtren and some drol.

Otherwise might as well quit.

>peoples faces when I lifted on mtren.
>added 20% to my maxes when I took it with msten.

That's how I pushed 3 reps of 120kg incline bench ezmode at 185cm and 75kg. Mostly the orals.
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Why would someone run anything other than test? Why throw in the tren clen dbol anavar shit?
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>>37232191

I think I will go with 250mg test e Monday and Thursday every week with 12.5mg asin on pin days and save deca for another time

And yeah I have Nolva on hand and clomid for pct
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>>37232173
Despite the fact that i'am really prone to acne, I don't get it on cycle, only in PCT. Not even with masteron.

Pct is my only problem regarding to acne

>>37232263
no reason at all
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>>37232263

Because they have different sides and results. I'm prone to gyno from e2. But nothing else. So I can run a fuckton of tren with 0 sides but touch dbol and it's 2 days before I bloat up and get itchy nipples.

Some give amazing strength but less mass, others are more of a massbuilder.

Some dry you out and some bloat you. Some will push in a fuckton of glycogen, others will increase rbc by a lot more...
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turinabol what is it good for?

any point taking it over anavar or epistane brahs?
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>>37232335

More mass than var. Doesn't wreck your lipids like var. Epi causes my bp to go into hospitalmode.
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JB FL GF
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>>37232379

JerrBear, fatlift's girlfriend?
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>>37232395
You cracked the code.
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guys, i pinned myself last friday but ever since 3 days ago my ass has been in the worst fucking pain it's ever been.

what should i do?
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>Dimethylnandrolone
>methyltren
>Methandriol

Thoughts?
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>>37232395
what girlfriend?
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>>37232712

Was it your first pin there? Is there swelling? Redness? Heat?
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>>37232712
Is it your first pin? It sounds like normal pip to me.
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>>37227996
>Implying it's not tough to do 60 sets of weight in one and a half hours with 60 sec max rest inbetween sets
>Implying volume isn't the way to get big on roids
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>>37232726
tfw no 2-oxa-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-estra-4,9,11-trien-3-one
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>>37232811
Other then the 10x10 stuff, it doesn't seem that crazy.
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>>37232732
You should start tripping again
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>>37232811
Its not. 60 fuckings sets a workout at an reasonable intensity is just not necessary. Its abusive to your joints at any intensity that will actually build muscle.
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>>37232840

Trienolone/trenavar, yes?

Thinking of buying pic related for giggles.

2 caps a day and 2mg mtren until liver failure.

20/20/2 sdrol/msten/mtren.

Now that's a strength boost.
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>>37232913
No, I was just reading these posts.
http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/supersteroids-2-ba-36644/
http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/supersteroids-1-2-oxa-dienes-trienes/

300 times as anabolic an methytest
tfw no supersteroids available.
They look so interesting
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>>37232734
>>37232791
not my first pin. yes heat and swelling.
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>>37233019
heat, swelling and redness and imo you should go see a doctor.
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>>37233036
is this a sign of infection? not sure what to tell my doctor.

i've been stupid using 20 gauge needles and pinning 3mL at once. i've been doing it for years, but it's finally reached the point where there's so much scar tissue that it's easy to get painful.
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>>37232712
Tell your boyfriend not to be so rough
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>>37233088
afaik these are symptoms, 20g is rough, but redness and heat especially don't come from a big needle.
Meme here is to tell him you fucked your b12 injection up, or depending on where you are just the truth.
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>>37232873
I would, but I don't really care to see pictures of my loose skin plastered on here, and I don't want people to start contacting my extended family again and claiming I'm some sort of pedophile. I can't even see my brother's kids anymore without everyone acting weird around me, including the kids.
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>>37233158
Did you doxx yourself? Did chem do it?
Or how did it happen again?
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>>37233158
Jeez. That's rough. I had no idea you'd been doxxed that hard.
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how do i stop bleeding so much after i pin, using 18g atm
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>>37233158
>and MasT is retarded enough to pretend doxxing doesn't matter
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Thoughts and rants on my adventure:

I was picked up by the directors assistant, Ivan. 21 and a big guy, natural. Everything is accommodating and wholly upper class. I am in an executive suite, two queens.

Inquired about dinner plans and how much cash I should bring:
>"when you stay here with us you pay for nothing. You are in the directors hands"
Reaffirming, slightly intimidating. I feel like I might be being lulled into a sense of security. Guards up, but it's all very welcoming.

My ex is breaking my heart. It's the same shit as always. She came back into my life like she promised she wouldn't. I let it happen because I hope this is the time she stays. Very reminiscent of the Wes Anderson short film with Jason schwartzman and Natalie Portman; it was a prelude to Darjeeling. Touching, and bitter. I'm sad guys.
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>>37233200
use blood clotting peptides
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>>37233269
I'll say it again

You are like a child lost in the woods
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>>37233269
Your life is like all those cliche chick flick romances, complete with airport scene.
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>>37233313
but at least he looks like a man, whilst you look like a child
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>>37233200
>using 18g atm
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>>37233200
Try a smaller pin.

>>37233269
You fuck a dude yet?
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>>37233269
>I'm sad guys
really? huh never woulda guessed

i hope your shoot isn't traumatizing, shit could push you over the edge. especially if anons leak the vid

don't become jm2.0, you're a good dude
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>>37233323
>waiting for bimbo to literally run after his ex in an airport when she tries to leave the country
We can dream

>>37233329
A shiggidy
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>>37227454
just frontloaded 500 mg test e. first time taking roids ever. ask me anything.
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>>37233234
I posted my full face on here. Nothing happend faggot. I got nothing to hide. Everyone can know i roid, i don't care.

Everyone who doesn't post pics, is just dyel and insecure.

>butt muhh doxxing afraidness

I'am not scared for some speg faggot. Fight me 1v1 and find out retard
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>>37233362
>Fight me 1v1 and find out retard
I am 100% convinced you're just trolling kek
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You guys are really nice. I enjoy opening up to you nerds.

Anons get worked up over shit like this, but fraud is basically an on going locker room talk thread and it's relieving. It's like chilling with the guys. Thank you for the support, I actually really need it and I admire you doggers a lot.
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>>37233435
love you bro

NO HOMO
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>>37233434
scared huh?
fite him
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>>37233444
I admire these loving jerrbears
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>>37233158
Never knew it was that bad
thats more than fair enough of a reason to remain anon
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>>37233435
>on going locker room talk
Inb4 someone goes nuts about there being so many trips shitposting
It's interesting seeing how strange your life is

>>37233457
He's about 3 times my size. I can't see it going well.
Plus flights to whatever euro hell hole he lives in will cost more than my net worth
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>>37233491
flying to the netherlands from brisbane or sydney is 1000-1300
your net worth is less than $1300?
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>>37233491
It's not that strange. I just do sex work and am in an abusive relationship.
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I always tinder while halfway through my cycle and then end up with like 6 potential gf's/fwb's that I lose complete interest in once I come off and enter PCT phase. Is there anything I can do about this or is the only option 2 cruise4lyf?
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>>37233543
>flying to the netherlands from brisbane or sydney is 1000-1300
Oh well okay maybe I over estimated
Last time I checked flights from here to the UK it was about 5K
Which is probably about half my worth officially.

>>37233572
Kek yeah pretty common I guess
I know so many sex workers in abusive relationships
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>>37233434
good call. Keep em sharp

>>37233491
Size doesn't mean shit. You need fighting skills
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>>37233576
I know that feel

>come off
>2 weeks later, delete Tinder and start ignoring the girl I was working on
>barely even feel like jerking off
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>>37233491
>3x your size

even a manlet should have decent mass on roids faggot
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>>37233572
>sex work

is that why you have these gay ass nipple piercings
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>>37233712
Lame they're dope
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>>37233728
Those hoops weren't doing you any favors, you get the barbells yet?
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>>37233750
No I've been busy but I would prefer barbells
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>>37233662
brah its 1 am, go to sleep nigger
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>>37233757
Barbells get you swole.
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>>37233269
So you're actually doing this? Watch out for the doxxing bro's. They are really frightened

your ex is just playing with you as far i can see. All they care about is drama and attention, especially the younger ones

>>37233576
on cycle = libido is higher than normal, therfore interested in sex,.

in pct= libidio is non-existent, no interested in woman almost asexiual.

what are you gonna do about it? Just face it. Life isn't all about fun

>>37233761
Nobody decides my faith

my life has no purpose. Just wait untill i die
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>>37233662
A short military career has taught me it's all about chance and how big the other guy is
Skill means fuck all when the other person can crush you with sheer weight

>>37233687
I was exaggerating
Arms are ~16inch so I'm not as tiny as I say
But MT is still a much bigger boy

>>37233786
Nipple curls
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>>37233797
Thanks for having my back
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>>37233757
Ask the director, I'm sure he's used to getting nipple jewelry for his talent.
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>>37233808
Lmao

I just got here and I'm already lifting
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>>37233797
>ll they care about is drama and attention, especially the younger ones
This. Some grills feed on that shit. Like they aren't happy unless they or someone else is miserable.

>>37233800
>Nipple curls
Mad nipple gains.
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>>37233797
I don't roid but you're sage as fuck senpai. So at peace with your reality
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>>37233800
Look up Marcelo Garcia dawg. 3x absolute weight adcc champ
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>>37233444
Damn those are some strong Jerrbears of love
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>>37233800
>Skill means fuck all when the other person can crush you with sheer weight
now you're trolling

it's all about(in this order);

fightning skills/techniques -> speed -> strength

>>37233805
Nobody can help you unfortunately, but yourself. One of these days you will find the best possible solution. It just needs time

>>37233861
I had some of those in the past, when i was younger. That's why i can't cope with teenage girls, with their bs elementary school bs

>>37233864
live in the present
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>>37233904
thx (";
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>>37233919
>fightning skills/techniques -> speed -> strength

Exactly. Whenever I see a giant bodybuilder, acting all tough, I laugh to myself, because since I'm small, I can easily outmanoeuvre him, since all that muscle makes him slow. I'd run around him until he got tired then I'd hit him hundreds of times until he fell.
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