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>>37220959
AUSSIE?
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>>37220972
I saved this picture like a year ago and haven't seen the dude since...Do you think this guy is natty?
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>>37221023
Duder has my build
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>>37220967
>basic math man,
I'am actually pretty bad with math. Thank you for the reminder .

As if i wasn't insecure enough already.


>>37221023
kill yourself
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>>37221042
Close - his core seems more proportional for some reason though
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>>37221037
What makes you think that?

Also any other replies to this I'd appreciate:
>>37220718
>>37220863
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>>37220794
And?
I'm not following at all

>>37220860
Not before your broken heart kills you

>>37220871
Sounds like about 1000% bullshit than I'm willing to deal with
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>>37221047
soooooooooooo..... He's natty right?
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>>37220895
Shit son...

It was 133/70 but I used one of those stupid cuffs at Walmart because I haven't been to a doctor yet lel

The first reading was 147/60 dafuq
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First time pinning, I decided to do tren-ace-solo-cycle cause some things, hands shaking, put alcohol everywhere: needle full of alcohol, ass, bed, hands etc. Getting ready to pin and after 5 seconds looking at my ass I stab the hell out of it but it's so painfull my ass gets instantly hard and the needle gets stucked, too nervous to relax ass so I can't get out the needle: There is no way back. Start inserting deeper the needle in the most nervous and hardest ass ever, painfull as hell, blood starts squirting everywhere and I can't see shit but red, ass suddenly calms down and the excessive strenght of the stab makes the needle hit hard the coccxy and I nearly faint, I start crying when i realize I just inyected the tren inside my spine, I start coughing like crazy and feeling some kind of similar-to-dmt high, the neighbors are knocking at the door asking if is everything okay, i can alredy hear the ambulance and police cars at the distance, Still can't see shit, desperately grab the water bottle and drop some over me but fuck it's not water but dianabol pills. The door comes down, 3 police agents enters to see a man covered in blood and dianabol pills with a needle crusted in his coccxy. The first cop shoots me, just in the liver.
Now I'm recovering from this experience and I think i will not be able to take orals anymore.

Any suggestion about sterons that are goodie puddie with the liver
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>>37220959
Come off before you do jail time for not being able to control yourself. I understand the invincible feeling, but god damn, get it together.
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>>37221102
Thank you anon
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>>37221089
coq10, hawthorn berry, dark chocolate, garlic, cardio, lower salt.

really not that hard m8


>>37221071
you know you're talking bullshit

your skills are superior, regarding to distorting the facts
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>>37221102
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>>37221089
Get a bigger cuff, was my Problem 170/80 and with the fat people cuff 120/65
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>>37221136
You're literally trying to say we can reveal anything we want about ourselves online, because without a picture of you injecting yourself there is no proof that you're on roids.
So it's totally worth any bullshit you'd deal with as a consequence of some fuckwits trying to cause trouble in your private life.

There's no logic or sense to this at all.
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I normally hide these threads but I'm on a different computer than I normally use so I just skimmed the previous thread out of curiosity.

I just wanted to tell you all that this is possibly the most pathetic general on 4chan, not because you are using roids (I don't care, and I've roided in the past for sport) but because 90% of the posts are tripfags sperging out about their oneitis, reaching literally r9k levels of pathetic. If you took these posts and told me they were made by 16 year olds on some retarded forum I would believe you - reading some of your posts made me physically cringe.
I can only assume the tripfags here are as ugly as sin or they would not be having girl troubles. It's particularly embarrassing because as far as I can tell most of you are roiding to get girls (lol) and even then you have problems.
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>>37221141
It DIS say that its best for arms under 14 inches...

Fucking DYEL?

>>37221136
Im not actually worried about it until I get a proper test.

I really am curious about how many of you come off from B&C and how often, though.
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Guys is equipoise worth of buying? I'm not cutting but clean bulking, will it be usefull in any way?
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First-timer here, found a steroid cycle and wanted some opinions on whether it's good enough for a beginner.
>Week 1-6 Dianabol 20mg-30mg daily
>Week 1-12 Testosterone-Enanthate or Testosterone-Cypionate: 250mg-500mg per week
>Week 13-15 take nothing and let the testosterone begin to filter out
>Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
>Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day
Source: http://www.australiansteroids.com/healthy-living/best-beginner-steroid-cycles/

Do these guys know what they're talking about?
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>>37221167
We can openly talk about it with one another here because normally everyone in here is cool enough not to be faggot about it.

You act as if even the most alpha of males don't have women problems now and then.

Grow up, dude.
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>>37221177
yes. except use 500mg not 250mg.
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>>37221164
According to your statement, everyone would believe everything what some unknown 4chan faggot would say to them, without providing actual concrete evidence.

Something doesn't match up over here. There is indeed no logic in that statement

you're blowing it out of proportions with your delusional speculations
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>>37221177
Pretty normal.

I'd skip the dbol for the first time but thats just my opinion.

>>37221167
>muh high horse
Nobody cares about your opinion, you're just salty for some reason.

>going out of your way to read an entire thread that doesn't interest you and then shit on the posters in it
Who's the 16 year old again?
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>>37221167
Some of us roid to be girls, faggot.
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>>37221167
but i still look better than you.

mad?

mirin?
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>>37221167
I agree with you in a big sense, but also you were faggy enough to say:

>I normally hide these threads but I'm on a different computer than I normally use so I just skimmed the previous thread out of curiosity.

When either 1) you clearly don't or 2) you're such a fag that you read one thread and let it bother you enough to read through it instead of exiting.

The trips are enormous faggots through and through. I can't stand their conversations. But fuck you.
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>>37221287
>The trips are enormous faggots through and through. I can't stand their conversations.
if you don't like it over here, just turn off your computer. Problem solved. Nobody forced you to be here.

stop whining about your female emotions nobody cares about
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>>37221321
I wasn't whining. I was just calling you a faggot, faggot. An enormous one.
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>>37221068
Texting a lot then not at all is classic move of a girl who doesn't want to seem too desperate/wants you to think she's cool.

That or she doesn't care and forgets

Either way worth a shot? Until then it's time wasting

Source: am grill but kinda spergy
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>>37221273
Kek
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Should I bring protein powder to a porn set? Will they provide lunch? They're providing dick pills so they should have like catering right?
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I'm running a prop and npp blast right now but I'll be going to the beach soon. Will I be ok if I take an injection the day I leave ? I won't be able to inject for 6 days
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>>37221343
Troof

Its weird how its so easy to get chicks that I only have a sexual interest in but when I want to get with one who I might actually like as a person I get all freaked out and over-analyze.
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>>37221412
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>>37221421
Bring pins.
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>>37221412
>he doesn't carry pocket eggs

Never gonna make it.
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>>37221445
Can I eat hard boiled eggs like during shooting I they're doing POV or like under the balls?
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>>37221225
>According to your statement, everyone would believe everything what some unknown 4chan faggot would say to them, without providing actual concrete evidence

Ummmmmmmm
Does someone want to introduce MT to the world of social media armies and their ever growing thirst for mob justice?
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>>37221439
I won't be able too. I have some test e laying around would it do me any good to take that before I leave to keep it in my system or am I just screwed? Will six days mess me up?
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>>37221421
Sheet I'm in the same boat but only gone 5 days

>>37221439
>pins on an airplane

I don't think so Tim.

Just gonna shoot a little extra before I leave, bring some AI and hope for the best
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>>37221465
Dip them in your own semen once you spray it on his back... you're a star now man, you gotta make it sexy cmon
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>>37221494
Lmao pussy what're they gonna do take away my oils?
>hey faggot you can't bring your horse steroids on a plane that's illegal
Watch me nerds. I do gay porn, I do what I want.
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Any of you ever asked a cashier out?

Crushing on a qt at a grocery store. We used to work at the same place (before I cycled), and she didn't recognize me when she saw me for the first time in awhile the other week

>"Anon you look a lot different!"

and now she's always waving me over and smiling whenever I go shopping or talks to me. hasn't hit me up on social media though yet
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>>37221102
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>>37221515
I've actually been a huge dick to my ex. Last two times we fucked, I've cum on her, picked it up and wiped it on her face. Just completely smearing it everywhere.
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>>37221536
Go for it man what do you have to lose?

Just ask when shes getting off and then ask if you can get off on her face. Works every time.
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>>37221548
Alpha as fuck
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>>37221548
face painting is good, shows your artistic side
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K gonna go hit on some chicks so I can stop being a bitch about this one I'm crushing on

later fags and goodbye gains
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>>37221536
This is her job.
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>>37221624
Yeah, I realize that. But I do know her (somewhat) outside of her job as a cashier - follow each on snapchat, facebook, etc. So I was wondering if it'd be okay to make a move on her since we do somewhat have a relationship established outside of me being a customer or if I should just move on because, as you said, all her behavior towards me is in her job description.
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>>37221678
You should take what you want.
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JB FL GF
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I'm thinking about doing a cycle or two, what are some good routines if you're not training naturally?
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>>37221732
Arnold's agonist antagonist pairing
Nubrets 6x12 rep scheming
Drop sets
Rest pause
Mountain dog
Dog crapp
5x5
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>>37221732
You wanna get big or stronk?

Don't say both, pick one
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>>37221813
First two and last two suck.
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>>37221732
Someone recommend 5/3/1 to this guy so I know you're dumb.
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>>37221866
First two actually got me big fast.

I forgot DUP though.
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>>37221813
not him but big
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>>37221851
Going for size for sure.
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any reason i should not perma-run tamoxifen?
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differences experienced from pushing 500 test e a week up to 750 - 1g?

worth it or nah
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Hnnnnng
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>>37221939

Osteoporosis.
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>>37221866
Arnolds shit got me giant fuck off

>>37221884
>>37221911
Volume volume. Look up Arnold routine.

It's ABCABCX and nothing but supersets and 5x10-15 shit. Takes forever but worth it. You'll have the recovery to destroy it.

First couple weeks are hard af no joke
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>>37221975
actually it has the opposite effect.

ralox and tamox are both osteoclast inhibitors
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>>37221975
What did you want to know about my ex and I?
>>37221994
Volume and frequency.
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>>37222052

Just type shit. Everything sounds familiar.

More hnng
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>>37222006
>he doesn't know the osteoporosis meme
Found a new guy
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>>37222063
She's 19, I'm 25. She's most likely manic depressive. Tumblr af; green hair, nostril piercings, gauges, shoulder and thigh tattoos. Korean/Spanish/English with small breasts and thicc legs.

We've essentially dated for six months. Off and on. My ex slept with her ex and she blew up at me. She came out as a lesbian and then sucked my cock 3 days later. Has told me countless times she can't do this and then begs for me back 3-20 days later. Longest she's been consistent for is 8 weeks. Amazing in bed. Amazing work ethic. Stubborn. Selfish. Creative, her birthday gift to me was a crochet of an alien queen smacking ripleys power loader. Smart as fuck. She's tall, 5'7.

Idk why I keep letting her back in. She matches me well in every regard though, everything I am she isn't.
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>>37222131
>She's tall, 5'7

i-i'm tall?
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>>37222143
It only counts if you have vagoo.
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>>37222148
i can if you want me to
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>>37222156
I don't want care for dirty vagoos I'm true lover of boipussi just remember to wear skirt so you are girl.
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>>37222131
where did you meet?
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>>37222131

So. Many. Similarities.

Dayum
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>>37222259
Her job first, then matched on tinder randomly.

She was that qt cashier lmao
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>>37221167
I hate tripfags not because this is only autistic meathead circle jerking thread. But they don't provide any help. Hence the /general/ is completely a waste and garbage
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>>37221878
That doesn't even go together with the other shit.
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>>37221732
Up your frequency. Everyone here talking about volume, volume, volume don't know shit about intensity. Keep the volume up, but if you're throwing volume at the problem thinking it'll get you big you're gonna lose all your intensity. Shit like rest pause, myo reps, and TUT will give you more out of your sets so you can grow without spending hours in the gym and hammering joints with a shitload of volume. Hit the muscles hard, fast, and often. Not some dumb 10x10 shit or whatever these guys will recommend.
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>>37221548
Hell yeah gotta do that lion king shit.
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>>37222364
God bless anons.
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I ride my bike to class & work a few times a week, it's maybe 15-20 minutes one way. Is it gonna have any effect? I plan on running test-e for 12 weeks
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>>37222437
No. It'll help control blood pressure and improve body composition. I don't see how it could hurt.
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>>37222308
Weird.

She'll have days where she's super into it and thoughtful, possessive, clingy and touchey. Then the opposite the next day. She's been okay the past few days; Sunday it was insane how glad she was to me. She chilled out hard by this AM. I told her we're seeing each other when I get back and she agreed, but that we can't date. Which is cool, I just enjoy her in my life in some capacity that's not just friends?
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>>37222479
shut up already
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>>37222364
I agree
I asked if I should do an oral only cycle and nobody did anything but call me an idiot
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>>37222449
ayy that's good news


how do y'all get pins & needles
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>>37222131
That sounds like 60% teenager girl ever
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>>37222485
Nah you fuck off, homo. NotOp and I are talking.

You're probably a cool duder, but I can shitpost as much as I want considering you do.
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>>37222479
see each other but can't date....don't let the headsick make the rules. my aunt was bipolar...she poisoned my uncle's dog and drove to california, technically i think they are still married.
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>>37222514
Look. Once again this thread is turned into a Facebook gf gf gf gf muh girl tripfaggot expo
They at least used to have a pastebin and some useful shits but now you can discuss anything but steroid using in /fraud/
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>>37222521
you yap like a bitch. more ai
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>>37222536
theres only so much steroid talk that exists

hur dur test tren ai

repeat
repeat
repeat

this thread is more a place for people who are on roids to talk about whatever
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>>37222541
You're a faggot if you deny you have complex human emotions. Fraud is an outlet. If you don't like it filter me nerd lmao.
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>>37222562
Not whatever. About how much pussy they get. And not for people. For trips.
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>>37222364
>help me help me I have easily answered questions and Google takes too long
We don't like wasting our time either guy. Do you have any idea the amount of dumb things I've seen in the past 30 days alone? I don't have time to explain this shit. Anons don't accept simple answers either. They demand to know why you shouldn't take heaps of adex on a cruise dose or why their var only cycle is bad.

This general isn't about teaching beginners. It's about discussin usage experience.
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>>37222536
>>37222536
Yeah I'm fucking sick of it too
Why do we even waste our time reading anything on these threads?
We could get literally nay information we need on steroids from simply googling and reading

It's like these threads only exist because the trips enjoy talking to each other and keeping up with who's progressing and how
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>>37222570
i didn't deny it. human beings are mutlifaceted and we're all human. just shut up is all.
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>>37222574
>last 30 days alone
Last 3 or so threads have had some shoe on head stupid questions
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>>37222599
Jerrbears for "no" you shit licking pussy.
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>>37222613
This was rude. Sorry anon.
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>>37222622
Jerrbears
You're a solid dude bimbo

It's honestly too bad you've latched onto such a troublesome teenager
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>>37222574
Why the fuck do you even trip if you aren't going to help?
It's your job to tell people what they want to know!
Otherwise why even trip?

>>37222599
I agree, just shut the fuck up
It would be so great if there were no trips at all
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>>37222607
Exactly brother. That shit is work. None of us get paid to be a help desk for noobs. Yet they expect us to do it like a full time job.
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desu trips are just attention whores for the most part

the only one id like to hang out with is jerry, maybe slut
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>>37222632
She's not trouble. She is, like for sure, but I enjoy it/her? It doesn't feel like trouble.
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>>37222657
Shut up!
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>>37222642
Then why even trip?

>>37222649
Kek this is so true

>>37222657
You're such a beta
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>>37222649
jerry and slut are chill af. some trips are ok but just not people I'd wanna chill with. most suck and just come to talk. whatever I guess. we all do to some extent. JJ I'd consider going to a petting zoo with but I feel like he'd try to convert me to vegan-keto-npp lifestyle at some point. which I'm down for
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>>37221939
lowers igf1 and causes brainfog
better off running raloxifene if your set on perma running a SERM
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>>37220972
What's the best way to recomp without tren?

Live in South Texas and don't wanna die from the heat
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>>37222761
Recomping is a waste of time.
Cut quickly on a harsh defecit then slowly bulk at a moderate surplus. Repeat ad infinity.
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>>37222635
My JOB is to coach people. A job that I get paid for. Why do you think you're entitled to help from any of us? You're not a buddy and you sure as shit ain't a client. You're low on my list of priorities. More so because you have a shit attitudes lol.

>>37222635
Why do you post if you're a negative nancy? You haven't contributed shit.
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>>37222574
>usage exp
I hardly ever see tripfaggot posting their experience. I'd like to see some experience from roid veterans. But all the shits trips talk are some gay ass emo girl love
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>>37222635
>Why trip
So we know who he is
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>>37222787
Shit guys this tren feels crazy. My body is changing and my dick is super hard. Thank God I'm fucking an 8/10 teenager. She just wants my trendick and my trenbody. I just want someone to share my feelings with, but at least she's not crazy like the other 9/10 I fucked before her. Like a bitch i can hold and talk to. Right fellow trips? Also I think I'm gonna fuck another 8.5/10 at my gym I just saw. And I fuck tinder sluts. FUCKING SLOOTS LOL.

Also the 8.5 and 8 are crazy too. This tren tho.
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>>37222840
hehehe yeah fellow trips these sluts are nuts. I just started my first 500mg test cycle and my friends think I'm huge now hahaha beach time cunts.

Also I'm 5'6. Also I now have cystic acne. Also DAE DEADLIFTS?
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>>37222787
Sorry you missed my dhb desoxyt 1g tren and old (real) sdrol posts. You're gonna have to dig through the archives for them. I've posted heaps here. I don't think anyone has came close except alb. Even mossads hairloss posts are pretty much reposts.
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>>37222875
How did that go?
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>>37222787
Ask actual questions. What do you want to know?
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>>37222948
The tren was insane. I doubt I'll ever go that high again. 700 is the most anyone needs.

Old sdrol was legit fire. 10-20mgs was all you needed. 30mg was insane. BP headaches were gnarly.

Dhb is meh. I had to stop at week 12-14 because of pip. Otherwise a nice compound.

Desoxytest pretty much a nandrolone test hybrid. Better fullness than test and drier. Gains like nand.
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>>37223059

I liked dhb/1test.

In other news, how am I pulling these girls? It makes no sense. It's like they can sense I'm half insane yet dont care.

More of dateqt.

I should be locked away, I'm drunk off benzos or high half the time while driving now.

>.>
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>>37223059
What about dta in terms of side effects? Anything to note? I've heard reports that it shoots your estro a little high. But no prolactin sides. Thoughts?
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>>37223121
Could really go for a xan rn :c
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>>37223121
Dhb is the one exotic I can't see myself ever using

>>37223136
Guessing you mean desoxytestosterone ace

It's an unusual estro. Asin did nothing to combat it. If I remember correctly desoxyt is actually a dht derivative. Which would mean it's got a wonky pathway to estro. Mast nolva or ralox MUST be ran along side it. 20mg Nolva ed alleviated all of the problems I had. It also made coming off a breeze.
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>>37223189
>Dhb is the one exotic I can't see myself ever using
Again*
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Thinking about juicing this summer.

Problem is, I'm 18.

Will I stop growing? Only, Imagine being a fraud for freshman year.
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>>37223189
Thats unfortunate news. I was really interested in something like nandrolone without the need for a dopamine agonist. I might experiment with it but its really too good to be true with all these exotics. dhb, trest, dien, dta ect.

Thanks for the info.
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>>37223213
You won't need a da for desoxytestosterone. Just mast or nolva.
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>>37223202

I didn't get any taller after 18. In retrospect, I'd hop on at your age and not wait around till 21 like I did.

If I was single during freshman year on roids I would have had a fucking ball
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Brahs got like 5-6 pimples on my face. Around my mouth, nose, and one up by my eyebrow. Not sure if because of cycle or not, started PCT last week. Should I just bite the bullet and try accutane? Ive always had some pimples around my mouth pretty sure I touch my face too often studying and reading and shit.
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For trest users how did it compare to tren for sides / lean gains
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>>37223202
I ran my first oral cycle at 19, then ran a real cycle this year at 20. I'd say if you are on point with your training/diet and do your research go for it. I've been 6'1'' since I was about 15 and happy with that, but I came back this year and grew another inch. Not sure how or if it was before my cycle, but it happened. Also like the other guy who quoted you said, roiding during your college years is fucking nice.
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>>37223169

Xan?
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>>37223395
Xanax breh...
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man, my posting's been like drive-bys lately

>>37222635
>It's your job to tell people what they want to know!

oh man, I'm dying

>It would be so great if there were no trips at all

hahaha, come back when you aren't butthurt because I called you a fucking retard for asking a googleable question or trying to justify some retarded bullshit oral only 5 week cycle

>>37222649
>>37222693

hush, child

unusual/advanced questions get answered because I'm king shit on turd mountain and wildly abuse my relative position of authority for my own amusement, my petty little entertainments are the subscription fee for when you actually come up with an original or interesting thought and need access to the only equivalent of an aas encyclopedia you're ever realistically going to get

>>37222787
>>37223059

somebody's going to be in for a treat after these slants actually take my (virtual) money and ship my shit

I don't think I'm ever going to do anything like this again barring extensive use of pharma gh, possibly in conjunction with mgf, plus high doses of test and low/med tren/mast just for nutrient partitioning and dht feelies

>>37222780
>>37223189

the hysterical conniption fits these self-righteous entitled little cunts get up to because we aren't their own personal google, these little tantrums never fail to crack me up

>Dhb is the one exotic I can't see myself ever using again

even if "someone" manages at some point to find someone willing to custom synth undecylenate or another long ester?

>>37223213

I haven't heard anyone having problems with prolactin on trestolone
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>>37223434
>custom synth
What's the minimum?
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>>37223434
>I don't think I'm ever going to do anything like this again barring extensive use of pharma gh, possibly in conjunction with mgf, plus high doses of test and low/med tren/mast just for nutrient partitioning and dht feelies
Been wanting to run test tren mast again lately. I miss the strength gains from tren.

>>37223434
>even if "someone" manages at some point to find someone willing to custom synth undecylenate or another long ester?
That would make it an incredibly appealing compound.

350 test 350 mast 450-600 dhb 500 tren

Would be dope ass blast. Probably maintainable year round.
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>>37223489

probably at least a key, even with dhb cyp being a decent bit cheaper than tren from most places that have given me quotes it's still a not-insignificant investment
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Guys dude you hear I diddly lift?
I'm basically best at my whole gym
Fuckin roids cunt
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Been on 50 mg tren a/day for the first time for 7 days now. Never gotten this kind of pump/cramps in my lower back from squats before, is this cuz of the tren? Just sitting is giving me aids
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>>37222515
>How do y'all get pins & needles

Sitting on the toilet for too long while on my phone gives me pins and needles. Or you could buy them from GPZ services or allegro medical
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>>37223585
Gpz is expensive. EBay resellers get you way more for less
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>>37223585
Kek

Are oral steroids a thing? I could only see myself juicing if I didn't have to inject myself like some sort of deviant
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seriously I fucking lift and look so fucking good
You guys should give me attention
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>>37223600
>like some sort of deviant
Thanks.
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>>37223600
>Some sort of deviant

H-hey now we take precautions and it's not like we're getting high, were getting string.
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>>37223657
Do you not feel like a deviant?

It's a free country, just don't see much difference between using syringes to juice and using syringes for heroin.

Sorry brah, not trying to hurt your feelings.
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>>37223655

Midget pls go.

I'll mimic myself

>high
>drugs
>ex
>hnnng
>More ex
>random unrelated incident
>ex or drugs

>>37223521

I need to stay at 72.5kg or less for rowing. So I'm cutting to like 5% to hit 69-70kg. What do I take for 99.9% strength? Most races are over in under 10 minutes, I cannot go over 72.5kg before a match.
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>>37223521

at first you're like fuck yeah test is cheap as chips even running like 1g+ and it's not that much test/mast, even adding in some orals and ancillaries it's nbd

then you realize that the gh cost alone for an 18 week blast @ 8iu ed is gonna be ~$6k

not even considering potentiation with ghrp/ghrh combos and/or mk, although certain cyclic approaches to proliferation/potentiation with boom doses of mgf and gh would cut down on the costs by a good bit

>That would make it an incredibly appealing compound.

telling you, boutique exotics shit with custom synth and total batch hplc verification would be the only way to fly

>>37223577

yes

git gud at sodium/potassium balancing, adequately replacing the rest of the electrolytes, and proper hydration

also fix your form and flexibility so you aren't straining your back as much, or if it's just weak as shit then go pick things up and put them down

>>37223707
>It's a free country, just don't see much difference between using syringes to juice and using syringes for heroin.

you should probably get your eyes checked

maybe actually read some shit that hasn't been completely biased by the party line and wada-style witch hunters
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>>37223730

I was thinking 100 test, 400 tren. Maybe EQ for endurance and lean gains. Possibly mast.
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>>37223705
*Strong

>>37223707
I mean I personally don't because I was prescribed TRT first and it's administered the same way so I basically just upped the dose and added compounds
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>>37223731

Check your messages. Hnnnng in there.
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Would 200tren e and 100mg test cyp hold in standard MCT and BB/ba? Or 200mast e and 200 test?
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>>37223730
Fuk u
I bet I lift more than you scrub
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What's the deal with cycling off?

My cousins started juicing and they were looking like Greek gods then apparently just continued and now they're so obvious and hulking I don't know how they have jobs.
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>>37223774
I'm actually impressed
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>>37223600
>like some sort of deviant
Smh you're doing steroids not sucking dick

>>37223730
Tren drol sdrol

Take your pick

>>37223731
I don't think I'll drop money on growth for a while. I've been happy with mk677 and peps. I consider tb500 to be better than growth for longevity.
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>>37223707
Na. Pinning is as routinely done as teeth brushing. I'm under a gram and health is fine(finally).

That's not to say that can't be abused to the point where a large majority of one's day is spent taking meds and they're even willing to die to look a certain way. But this is with super doses of steroids, gh, slin, T3, loads of stims, and ancillaries.

Anyway, gotta sleep or else no gains.
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>>37223786
those peps actually work tho?
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>>37223786
>taking steroids not sucking dick
Rude
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>>37223786
>I consider tb500 to be better than growth for longevity.
Increasing GH is the opposite of longevity.
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>>37223808
>Pinning as often as you brush your teeth
Just worked out why I'm not big and juicy yet
Haven't been pinning twice a day and taking AI once a day
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>>37223830
Ofc they do. They get a bad rap because people buy bunk.

>>37223832
Soz

>>37223834
Exogenous gh has shown to help regenerate neural tissue. It has its place in supplementation.
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>>37223881
where do u get legit peppies then?
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>>37223731
How to balance my sodium and potas
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>>37223881
>Exogenous gh has shown to help regenerate neural tissue. It has its place in supplementation.
your moving the goal posts
you said longevity.. gh is great for a number of reasons but it will definitely not increase your life span

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSl4n_KdOY
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>>37223899
Tom is the only one that I know of who doesn't sell shit peps.
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>>37223786
>drol sdrol
bad choices

tren, halo, var for strength without mass
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>>37223775
If you come off and you're above your genetic potential, you lose gains. There's no reason you can't cruise indefinitely and maintain a juicy physique.
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>>37223755

whoops, think I let my phone die

>>37223766

probably

>>37223775

welcome to blasting and cruising

>>37223786

I don't even give a shit if I burn $180 rolling the dice on 60mg of tb500, if it's actually legit then holy balls I'm buying a couple years worth and putting that shit on deep freeze

>>37223920

stop eating foods with shit-tons of added sodium and stop over-salting your cooking
once your body stops thinking it needs that fat-salt crack combo and returns to normal, it'll pretty much autoregulate through cravings
after a while you start noticing when you need to hit a gatorade or some shit, if you're somehow not actually getting enough sodium in your diet, etc
potassium's trickier, p much just eat 1-2 bananas a day or another decent potassium source
monkey with it if you're drinking enough water and not over-eating sodium but still getting a lot of bloat

>>37223922

minimizing physical and neurological decline is more valuable than slowly clawing your way to the finish line, even if the terrible and agonizing route means the finish line is fractionally further

the price you pay to get there as your body starts decaying with you in it and you can literally feel your mind slowly slipping away piece by piece, but the cruelest part is that the last thing you'll lose is your ability to recognize just how much you've lost

one godawful thing about western culture is this blind animal panic reaction to death, this completely and utterly wrong fiction that longevity is to be prized above all else, while quality of life is thrown out with the bathwater as you desperately cling to your loved ones and prolong their suffering to wring that last little bit of time out of them no matter the soul-crushing cost

fuck longevity, quality of life > *

>>37224012

genetics + (diet * form * programming * rest) = expressed natural potential * drugs = full potential

go ahead, have fun trying to quantify and rationalize that one
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>>37224124
Alright thx mayne
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> be attractive, tren-blaster, ex was 8/10 and I have no money/job
> ugly girl on Tinder I ignored for 4 days messages first
> get drunk, message back, she implies she is a professional cock sucker
> get number, nudes, shows me her BDSM gear
> talk for a few days, she gets all affectionate
> we meet
> shes pulls up, leaves, texts "you don't look like your pictures"
> comes back 15 minutes later
> she's worse than the pictures, hideous 3/10 whale
> I go over, ask if she wants to do something, "mm no"
> blocks my number

The thing is, this happened once before with another fat ugly girl. Why they do this?
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>>37224169
They probably want something more than a fling and don't think you'd stick around for that.
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>>37224124
>minimizing physical and neurological decline is more valuable than slowly clawing your way to the finish line, even if the terrible and agonizing route means the finish line is fractionally further
>the price you pay to get there as your body starts decaying with you in it and you can literally feel your mind slowly slipping away piece by piece, but the cruelest part is that the last thing you'll lose is your ability to recognize just how much you've lost
>one godawful thing about western culture is this blind animal panic reaction to death, this completely and utterly wrong fiction that longevity is to be prized above all else, while quality of life is thrown out with the bathwater as you desperately cling to your loved ones and prolong their suffering to wring that last little bit of time out of them no matter the soul-crushing cost
>fuck longevity, quality of life > *

all i was saying is that GH ≠ longevity, i never said that GH wasnt useful for quality of life
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> bl.ocks.org/abovethemean/raw/9395398/
> 6" x 6"
> In a room of 1000 guys, 6 should be both longer and girthier than you.
> Your dick is at most 17.19 in3 (9.53 fl oz)
> That's more voluminous than 96.78% of dudes!

I find it hard to believe that your dicks are so small.
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>>37224124
Not entirely sure what your counter-argument is, re: natural vs "enhanced" potential.
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>>37224253
I'm 0.01% higher than you with my 7.5x5.5.

Run along, peasant 99.4th percenticle.
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>>37224253
even with my genetic shortcomings, i still wouldn't risk re-rolling my stats if given the opportunity, not just because of my dick either
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>>37224237

somehow I deleted a chunk

>I think coach meant longevity expressed in quality of life, as in prolonging the actual quality and reducing the downslope, not actually the base longevity itself

>>37224276

you're using the same fucking retarded and overly simplistic beyond even crayon scrawls black and white interpretation of "genetic potential" that gives me migraines just to think about

think about all of the fucking variables that form a rat's nest of feedback loops between diet, form, training, programming, rest, etc

now think about how all of that forms its own feedback loops with epigenetic and phenotypic expression

now add a cocktail of hormones and peptides that are barely, barely understood beyond the most absolute basic forms and in the simplest implementations, and the cocktail could be of questionable purity

this kind of bullshit makes appalachian family trees feel a whooooole lot better about themselves
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>>37224253
>7x4.5

should i die?
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>>37224458
>less than 8x6
You'll never please a woman.
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>>37224447
Do you feel better now?

Where did I claim it was a black and white concept? We're on the same page, buddy boy. Have fun with your strawman, my point stands.
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>>37224534
what do those pornstars with giant ass 10x8 dicks or whatever take? there's no way that's actually natural is there?
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>>37224343
>>37224327

Maybe 4channers actually do have the biggest dicks

>>37224458

Nah, girth doesn't matter at all for getting pussy. More for keeping pussy. The tranny dick I sucked was 5"x3" and s/he probably has fucked more pussy than most of you.

>>37224547

They typically don't. It's all camera angles and small girls with small hands.
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Ayo, where the cheap psyllium husk fiber at?
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>>37224577
>tranny dick I sucked
what?
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>>37224595

Yeah, I deep-throated a feminine penis and swallowed her feminine semen
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>>37224595
You havnt lived until you've sucked a cute young boys little pecker
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>>37224643
You the dude who fucks tranny's with his girlfriend, or is that someone else?
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>>37224577
>They typically don't. It's all camera angles and small girls with small hands
This. I'm the same height as Kieran Lee, who claims to have an 11 inch dick, yet it barely reaches his belly button when he's lying down. Meanwhile mine DOES reach my belly button and I'm 7 inches. 8 on a good day.

Even Billy Glide, who supposedly had a monster dick (like 12 plus), admitted he was 8 inches.

They get guys with above-average dicks for sure, but don't believe the measurements.
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>>37224587
Strapped to my DICK
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besides legitimately having a needle dick, what kind of massively insecure shit is going on in your heads to where you're putting this much time and emotional investments into worrying about how you stack up next to some other dude

>>37224537
>There's no reason you can't cruise indefinitely and maintain a juicy physique.

sure, there's your easy point

>If you come off and you're above your genetic potential, you lose gains.

this is incredibly oversimplifying if not being outright disingenuous, especially given how apparently you know that the complex interplay makes "genetic potential" just short of completely meaningless
>>
how the fuck do people hate on trenbolone's mental effects? this is literally the best shit ever. not even lifting wise, i'm talking about the mental "sides", aka feeling like a complete beast
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>>37224805
Is the dick feminine?

I'll just buy it on Amazon or something if it's not feminine.
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>>37223937
Smh you have no idea. They're not bad choices at all. They're all used for peaking for pl meets.
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sup guys, would need some advice..

i just finished my dnp cycle of 20 days, should i wait a few weeks before starting dbol or can i pop some today? ( thinking about the liver recovering)
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>>37225128
Dbol only?
Wait till you get some test
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>>37225224
nah im on some test already aswell bro
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>>37224882
Yeah I love tren aswell. Everyone talks about how terrible it is and how the sides are so harsh.

I actually get worse sides from 500mg test than 1g of tren a week. Totally different sides though.

I get it everyones different but for me tren is the shit, and test sucks I dont know why everyone includes it in their cycles.
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>>37225280
You should probably tell the full story then
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>>37225224
is my liver ready for dbol after a dnp cycle you think?
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>>37225298
Give your body at least 2 weeks off..
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>>37225285
>test sucks I dont know why everyone includes it in their cycles.

the average dumb ass meathead
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I was told I should make my own PPL routine, now that I'm blasting, so any opinions on it?
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>>37225360
10x10 ohp wtf? didnt look at other shit, that just popped out
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>>37223230
Has you or anyone here grown after taking clomid? I figure the test induced growth plate closing could be prevented by an ai/ trt dose with a dht derivative, but I'm more concerned that clomid will cuck my shit up and at the moment I'm short, but grew an inch last year so I want to keep muh plates open as long as possible to see how tall I can get
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>>37223786
I think high natty tb500 levels have been shown to increase cancer risk in lab animals
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Hey I did a week and a half of test e. So 500mg/week if it's the second week only can I stop pinning? I really don't want to roid I think it's a mistake and not for me, idk why I started. Can I stop without fucking myself only?
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>>37225360
>deadlift 10x10
U wot m8
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>>37225293
the full story:

500 mg test E a week
just finished a dnp cycle to cut and got a hold of some dbol, want to try it and go 30 mg today, cba waiting..
Does dnp really hurt your liver that much that i cant go 30 mg?
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>>37225394
I'm really scared pls respond
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>>37225394
You can stop, but run a regular 4 week PCT schedule 2 weeks after last injection.
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>>37225416
So 2 weeks after my last injection I can just take nolvadex for 40mg everyday for 2 weeks then 20mg everyday for 2 weeks and I'll be okay?
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>>37225424
That's what he said.
But good job on repeating what he said with a question mark. If you don't believe him just do your own research :)
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>>37225400
Yeah, maybe the deadlift needs altering. I'll probably fry my CNS with that desu. I reckon I'll knock it down to 3x5.

>>37225369
I'm using GVT with it, where you do the main compound lifts 10x10.
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Here we go again, no response last time.

Getting some very uncomfortable tension/cramp in my forearms after keeping a position similar to when flexing biceps, for example when calling someone and holding the phone for a while, jogging etc.

It stops after keeping my arms straight for a couple of seconds.

On low dose tren/test/DNP atm if that helps.
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>>37225546
how long have you been on the dnp and what does? and is it an actual cramp or more of a nerve-damage feeling lol
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>>37225555
what dose*
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>>37225555

250mg, been on for a month.

I can't figure out a propwer way to describe the feeling, but Ill try.

Forearm gets tense af when i stretch arm out after holding my phone, as if I would flex my forearm except that it hurts.
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>>37223937

Tren + msten?
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>>37225555
Nice jerrbear^2s
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>>37224534

8x6 can be painful to some women. Unless you enjoy hours of foreplay or keeping her horny 24/7, and even thenit will get sore pretty easily...

My ex loved sex but dreaded the uh... Hours after. Or days. And I'm 19-20x15 give or take 0.5cm I think that's 7.5x5.75 or so.

Hitting a cervix ? Hot as fuck, feels a bit weird, but man.. that hurts her like hell afterwards while it's apparently amazing when you go hard and hit it. The first 20 times anyway.
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>>37225639
I'll be taking that login information for your cloud storage account now then.
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>>37225555

"Nerve damage feeling" or PN, it feels like pins n needles.

And I only get that when I'm playing portable vidya or screw with my phone for too long. It ends up restricting blood flow.

Give it 5 seconds of good circulation and it's gone.

And if anyone should have dnp nerve damage its me. I've been on and off for 35lbs now. And I started fairly lean. 3kg to go, only 2 days of dnp left. Should be golden if I keep my diet in check, will be done by the time my pituitary has recovered. 2 weeks tops.

Yesterday, fought urges again. End result?

>4x80kcal. Apples
>sip of sugary tea. 25kcal
>lotta coffee
>banana
>Salmon + lettuce in a very thin low kcal wrap. +- 250kcal.
>glass of milk. 80kcal
>300g steak, 400kcal
>salty soup with lean meat, 99% water with salt, meat was steak macros and 150g. So 200kcal

After that. Nothing. So total while on 600mg dnp was well under 1400kcal and I am overestimating kcals.

The desire to stuff myself has been here erryday for over a week. Maybe I should while I'm still on dnp.
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>>37225118
only with 24 hour weigh ins
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>>37225128
dnp doesnt really stress the liver, at least not directly
youll be fine whatever you choose to do but id wait until the dnp clears at least
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>>37225834
hey
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>>37225852
hello
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>>37225852
hello
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>>37225852
Hello
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>>37225860
>>37225861
>>37225869

sup?
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>>37225872
cutting
feel shit
no gf
will be 10% soon then I can blast
this keeps be going
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>>37225889
>no gf
you can borrow mine
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>>37225872
Laying on the ground watching TV while trying to massage where my lat reaches my armpit area

What about you?
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>>37225918
just got back to my flat.
smoking hookah and chillin with gfs sister
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>>37225925
Sounds pretty chill

>smoking hookah
I never really got the point of that
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>>37225941
>I never really got the point of that
Idk, mellows me out.
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>>37225955
certainly if you fill it with opium
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>>37225964
We added weed once or twice.
never again lol
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>>37225692
>sip of sugary tea. 25kcal
idk why but this is funny, i do the same shit with the massive overestimation if i eat something uncountable
>>
2 weeks left of first cycle
15kg's up
3x more horny

current: 6'2 105kg's
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>>37225974
noice
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>>37225971
why not?

I always enjoyed smoking weed out of one
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>>37225996
>why not?
had a /hella/ bad trip lol.
didn't realise how high I was till I stood up.
I accedently pulled the hookah over and the coals fell errwhere.
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>>37225982
gotdamn
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>>37226003
hahaha fs
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>>37226026
yea lol.
then I just layed down on the couch and waited to not be high.
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>>37225889

>10%
>ready to bulk

Pick one. Bulking starts at 6%.
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>>37226052

Yolo "up the dose" approved?
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>>37226106
>>37225659
whut?
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