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Remember OHP is not IPF approved, and long femurs are the underactive thyroid of lifting
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>ALL TIME RAW WORLD RECORDS (natty or not)
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>What is depthprivilege?
https://youtu.be/XpgmQmdMfe0
>How to deadlift by Mark Rippetoe
https://youtu.be/tfYez7-h55c
>How to setup for the deadlift by JL Holdsworth
https://youtu.be/hlBMGsRly1c
>How to sumo deadlift by Ben Rice
https://youtu.be/_5tQpNoSiKU
>How to lowbar squat by Alastair MacNicol
https://youtu.be/RMFHgVN_pcg
>How to set WRs by C. Lutz
https://youtu.be/e-ORhEE9VVg
>How to build a big bench by C. Lutz
https://youtu.be/XrVZqPkgdXo
>How to bench press by PTW
https://youtu.be/_V189hK85BI
>How to OHP with Dan Green
https://youtu.be/f3EuCSe7pUA
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in for haack
In for tranny go home
In for the plg mentality
Was Isley b&?
>tfw knee cancer of some sort
basically soreness in a tendon or someshit when squatting, deload week was in order anyway but fuuuuck
>>36646070
I u ironically agree 100% with that post
Now fuck off
>>36646093
You sound p weak
>muh natty
Lmao
>>36646103
My wilks is actually exactly the same as your best gym wilks
>>36646112
Oh my you're so strong sorry for doubting you
>>36646048
;_____;
Who here /tallerthanbasicallytallasfuck/
Feels Goodman
How can anyone expect for people to take Powerlifting seriously when you have emo guys like George Leeman and Chris Duffin causing scenes every time they're seen in the public eye. Every lulzfed competitor has a weak grip, hence always dropping the way half a centimeter away from lockout. Notice how they warm up? Double overhand for their warm up sets (not enough to train grip but enough to tax it before your working sets) along with dropping the weight at the top with straps. This creates "baby grip" syndrome.
>>36646029
I used to love benching, to the point where I was bench only, but lately it's just been fucky. Can't get anything right anymore.
>>36646022
I can't even tell if you're being sarcastic or not lel.
>>36646012
Basically thinking of doing something like this. Just OHP and light CGBP.
And I also want to start doing stiff legged deads, and some front squats.
>>36646150
What happened to joe did he get my message :c
>>36646124
What am I looking at here?
>>36646165
>powerlifting
>mememan or duffcuck
sorry?
>>36646171
Yeah he just doesn't want to come on rn. Didn't send him the songs I later saw you were trying to share, just that you wanted him to see something. We both expected it to be a troll at the time Tbh
>>36646184
©:^)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Ixk4TCkKw
How in the fuck is Gibbs so strong? My grip would have failed halfway through and I'd have torn something in my shoulder.
>>36646022
It's not about the width, but the whole structure.
It's about where the weight of the bar is going, and what's holding it.
To a certain extent you want your grip to be "narrow", not "open wide", as that's what contracts the muscles that shelf the bar.
Though yes, extremely narrow grips usually destabilize the whole structure and put a lot of strain down into your elbow and shoulder.
Lmaogrips are competitive, though, as they allow you to share some of the load around. But healthy and competitive don't often go hand in hand.
We just stick to the "proper" grip, as competitions here aren't anywhere near as big as in other countries. So being training plays a bigger role in the spectrum than actual meets.
But I'm sure you know this and are just testing for what I'd say.
>>36646218
>We just stick to the "proper" grip
go away
>max bench last tuesday
>max squat last thursday
>squats feeling 100% today
>bench feeling like hitler
explain this
>>36646198
What? I told Isley to send the songs? How do you know about this?
I'm only returning the favour btw
>>36646235
Keep in mind the use of quotation marks to denominate that "proper" isn't the same as "correct", and that I clearly explained that "competitive" isn't always "proper".
Kind of funny that I have to re-explain such thing when it was clearly already detailed in the original text.
Maybe I should draw it too?
>>36646185
Exactly. They're a stain on the Powerlifting world. IPF needs to be the big fed and we can keep the Lulzfeds to keep away the freakshows and degenerates. You never see Mike Tuchscherer screaming at spotters.
>>36646273
Fuck off. You're not a coach. You're a weak twink who never has accomplished anything and never will. You are the last person any of us want to listen to.
>>36646287
This.
>>36646246
I saw you say it to George, bud.
>>36646218
>It's about where the weight of the bar is going, and what's holding it.
It is unfeaseable to try to support the weight of a max squat in your hands.
To a certain extent you want your grip to be "narrow", not "open wide", as that's what contracts the muscles that shelf the bar.
>Though yes, extremely narrow grips usually destabilize the whole structure and put a lot of strain down into your elbow and shoulder.
Lmaogrips are competitive, though, as they allow you to share some of the load around. But healthy and competitive don't often go hand in hand.
This isn't true though. I've had my biceps irritated once or twice, sure, but that was only an *indication* of bad form,
>We just stick to the "proper" grip, as competitions here aren't anywhere near as big as in other countries. So being training plays a bigger role in the spectrum than actual meets.
How is anything suboptimal "proper"
>But I'm sure you know this and are just testing for what I'd say.
No I did not know what lmaogrip referred to
>>36646287
Sure thing bby.
>>36646287
Oh jesus, stfu Trappy isn't harming anyone, she's just regurgitating info she essentially stole. Get some chill, lad.
>>36646308
Well I have more music if he liked the last bit. I only picked out what I'm sure he would have liked.
>>36646311
>she
he's regurgitating rippetoe shit that barely belongs on /fit/ and definitely not on /plg/
>>36646311
>learning something from someone
>essentially stealing information
Universities are literally making thieves.
>>36646308
>It is unfeaseable to try to support the weight of a max squat in your hands.
No. No it is not. also learn to spell "unfeasible" you damn chad. Lot's of elbow pain comes from lifters trying to support weight with their hands.
Ok peeps, i can't be assed reading starting strength book again and id like some answers:
-How to find out if my muscles are not balanced, for example quad too strong or too weak.
-how to stop hips/knees moving forward during squat
-how to stop heels rolling forward
-I go way below parallel on low bar back squat, is this fine?
Just an fyi, i don't do this, i just want to know of educational purposes.
>>36646338
Universities know how to reference an MLA style guide.
>>36646330
Hey now, Rippetoe is a great strength coach for beginners. I agree though, his shit is barely applicable to optimal powerlifting.
>>36646365
>Hey now, Rippetoe is a great strength coach for beginners
lolno
>>36646362
Go ask this literally anywhere but here.
>>36646329
I'll make sure he knows
>>36646349
>also learn to spell "unfeasible" you damn chad
Shut up nerd
>Lot's of elbow pain comes from lifters trying to support weight with their hands
Do you argue that this is correct?
I think that best form is sustainable form and just about any bad form should be saved for the platform
>>36646365
>Rippetoe is a great strength coach for beginners
I disagree, a great strength coach should not ingrain bad habits and certainly not the "rush numbers now" attitude he pragmatically stands by.
He's obviously better than 99.99% of PT's and whatnot, but let's reserve "great" for actually great coaches
>>36646381
why don't you suck on some maple syrup?
>>36646311
You are welcome to leave too. You two could start your own community of weak holier than thou cunts. Maybe call it stg2.0
>>36646393
Don't forget how he assumes a massive weight gain from anyone he coaches
>Zachgains40kgonhisbenchand50onhisbodyweight.png
Mike Tuchscherer, Dan Green, Chad Wesley Smith, and Mike Israetel have common sense training principles. I'm really curious about Dan Green, how come there's nothing of him before he was breaking records? I can't even find anything about meets he had done previously. I wanna hear more about his progression from anyone who knows.
>>36646308
>How is anything suboptimal "proper"
I think it's pretty clear that I differentiate between what's the most competitive and what's the healthier in the long run.
If you're trying to argue about the use of the word "proper", then sorry, I'm not a native english speaker. I use the vocabulary that I have available to me, but it's my second language.
I thought the " " and the text itself would make the point I'm making more obvious.
Not sure if it's just the overwillingness to disagree and argue, or impetus to not care to interpret what the other person is saying.
>It is unfeaseable to try to support the weight of a max squat in your hands.
As I said, competitive doesn't always equal healthy. If pain, injury, and long term is to be taken in consideration, some compromising has to be made.
I'm not saying you should never lmaogrip or that lmaogrip is inherently wrong or bad.
>>36646365
>>36646349
So in order for me not to be "stealing information" I should write a scientific paper in every post?
Wew
>>36646431
Yeah, he promises numbers that I doubt actually work for fucking everyone as he claims. That and he genuinely advices 5000cals for fucking average weight novices saying 3000 won't do lel
What went wrong?
>>36646444
I have no reason to dislike you, I just think that we disagree in training mentality and you don't like being disagreed with
>>36646444
do you actually have anything to support that narrow grip stresses shoulders more? think its a load of shit
>>36646444
>>I think it's pretty clear that I differentiate between what's the most competitive and what's the healthier in the long run.
More like the guys at your gym just don't know how to grip a fucking bar
>>36646444
Rippe advocates narrow grip???
>>36646311
so all knowledge is stolen unless you thought of it yourself
I knew you weren't such a useless trip :^)
>>36646479
You need to understand that he's a degenerate mentally ill twink who doesn't have any actual real-life experience of lifting at all, he just reads shit and parrots it to gain attention. I don't know why anyone would ever discuss anything with a person who thinks he knows shit just by reading about it, with zero experience under his belt. Fucking surreal
>>36646438
Dan Green has very simplistic programming. Lots of variety and high volume tapering to specificity and low volume.
>>36646438
>>36646438
Also, he gets some programming from a Burt character. Aren't other people more curious about Dan's programming? Mike T is a very smart guy, too. Garret Griffin advocates more benching to balace out the shoulders. Him and Dan are friends who have similar methods but Dan does shoulder work and Garret doesn't.
When I bench 2pl8 should I bring party hats and balloons to the gym to hand out?
>>36646516
I know the basics, I think that he has a lot of amazing ideas. West of Westside was awesome, same with the other stuff he wrote. It just clicks. I wonder if he uses percentage based programs or works in a specific "percentage range" or something.
>>36646479
I never said using lmaogrip is bad or wrong though.
I actually said it can give a competitive edge.
I never even argued or disagreed with your training method.
The only point I made from the start is that I've never had someone develop biceps tendinitis from lowbar squatting, and that it's probably because the guys in my gym grip it in a healthier, albeit less competitive, manner.
And that it was interesting to learn about people getting biceps tendinitis from lowbar.
>>36646483
It doesn't?
I said from the start it's not about grip width.
>>36646498
Yes, it's a misconception that he wants you to grip it wide. Same about the whole elbows up thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT3C96ojEuA
>>36646514
You don't have to get mercury poisoning to understand why it's detrimental. Your fallacies haven't proven a thing.
>>36646541
>twink benching lmao2pl8 makes a mess
nah.
>>36646553
>I said from the start it's not about grip width.
>Though yes, extremely narrow grips usually destabilize the whole structure and put a lot of strain down into your elbow and shoulder.
help me interpret this
>>36646566
You'll never put your dick inside his shitty arsehole, no need to whiteknight. You'd be a complete utter retard to ask advice, no matter what sport, from someone who has never done it. All he can offer is dry text you can easily find yourself with zero insight
who am I kidding most of the people don't lift here either, keep theorycrafting or whatever the fuck you do with this twink
How much less weight do I take for back off squats?
Say I did 2x3 160kg, what would be a good idea as 3rd and maybe 4th set?
3 reps at 150? 140?
>>36646584
Extremely is the key word.
Re-read the post >>36646218
>It's not about the width, but the whole structure.
>It's about where the weight of the bar is going, and what's holding it.
>To a certain extent you want your grip to be "narrow", not "open wide", as that's what contracts the muscles that shelf the bar.
>>36646591
What kind of programming are you doing?
>>36646519
Mfw isley tries to say Dan Green isn't a powerlifter, disregarding the fact that he never cheated in USAPL and hosts awesome usapl meets
>aaron he's on roids!
So? He did the right thing, competed and achieved state records natty in the USAPL and bowed out before going on gear, just like Tom Martin. And yet he STILL shit talks Dan Green
>george will not be able to defend this because he was too busy being banned for posting JAV
>mfw I'M considered the degenerate
>>36646642
TM and I am on ID, squats.
I'm kind of unhappy with the small amount of work done here
>>36646591
http://forum.reactivetrainingsystems.com/content.php?62-Fatigue-Percents-Revisited
http://www.allthingsgym.com/mike-tuchscherer-auto-regulation-fundamentals-fatigue-percentages/
>>36646641
well yes but you specifically say
>Though yes, extremely narrow grips usually destabilize the whole structure and put a lot of strain down into your elbow and shoulder.
which is what i take issue with
>>36646031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswjBpFIOtI
any russians around? heard this in gym today. really wondering wtf its about
>>36646650
>Mfw isley tries to say Dan Green isn't a powerlifter
He isn't. He was though.
>>36646653
3*3 at somewhere between 80-90% of the weight used for the top sets should probably be good.
>>36646673
Not an expert here, but just by trying out an extremely narrow grip I can feel a lot of tension in the rear delt - bordering on pain. I'm sure this can be improved by training flexibility, but if put heavy weight on your back that's going to become a weak point in the chain of your upper back.
Think about how force transference can break down at all the different points in the squat - knees caving in, back rounding on the way up, etc. When you go extremely narrow you're slipping another sticking point in there that wouldn't normally gum up the chain.
I imagine if your flexibility is great, and your tendon health is stellar, there's no harm in creating that rock-solid shelf.
>>36646711
>>36646667
Alright, thanks lads!
Sorry lads, Bryce doesn't want me to share the TSA template
>>36646650
>he was too busy being banned for posting JAV
>
lmao
>>36646762
How much is it?
>>36646757
Oh sure, I'm obviously referring to a narrow grip alllowed by your flexibility. We agree basically.
>>36646769
wut
>>36646792
How do I purchase bryces template
>>36646653
>>36646591
I'd say 140 or lower. 130. Do paused if you want to "feel tired", but not overdo the volume.
>>36646673
Extremely narrow grips limit the motion of your shoulders. And with limited motion, it is often (it's obviously not the same for everyone, as proportions and mobility play a role in this) the case that the lifter cannot properly position his shoulders and elbows in a way that doesn't put a lot of the strain down to their elbows and shoulders.
For health and injury concerns, the weight should be held by your back. The arms would merely be preventing the bar from getting out of position, in the perfect "dream scenario".
As I said before, however, there can be a competitive benefit/edge to using a lmaogrip - which has some of the load being actually held by your arms, not just your back. But in the long run, this can lead to tendon inflammation.
>>36646150
kek savage.
>>36646185
this deus
>>36646311
this desu.
>>36646650
obligatory:
>state records
Dan Green is equivalent to Tom Martin tBh, he used to be a powerlifter.
>joff
http://strawpoll.me/7281533
http://strawpoll.me/7281533
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Had to miss my first training session in over two years, because of tight mid back causing pain with the bar on my back.
I think I'm gonna take up rock collecting
>>36646801
ah, book a consultation with TSA, $150 you get a 1h skype call and then a customized programme, think joff did that
>>36646805
>the weight should be held by your back
so basically we agree for the most part except
>load actually held by your arms
then i'd argue you're just doing the narrow grip wrong, or more accurately you're doing a grip narrower than your mobility allows which i don't think is optimal for anyone
plers with narrow grips always have it, it's not like they just go rek their shoulders every meet they've just slowly worked up the flexibility over time
>>36646824
Get fucked manlet. Turns out I was just breaking at the knees and I can hinge my hips. I was just hyper-extending before, thinking I was hinging and wondering why my back hurted lmao.
I am now on my way getting strong while you'll never ever weigh 200lbs ;^)
>>36646650
Where are old vids or stories about Dan? I only see recent stuff from 2012+.
>>36646860
>missing a session
you owe yourself perfect sets and reps next time desu
>>36646868
>are you sure you can't hinge at the hips? because if you can't then you're broken
>TURNS OUT I CAN HINGE AT THE HIPS JOKE'S ON YOU
>>36646834
:^)
>>36646881
Me being anxious. I couldn't remember what I did so I assumed the worst. Went in and recorded myself and realised I was hyper extending to set up into position then breaking at the knees to squat. I forgot I was supposed to squat with my hips not my knees.
I took 2 months off squatting so that's why i forgot lol. You on the other hand will be a Manley fir more than 2 months :)))
>>36646910
so you're were being annoying, uncoachable, and didn't listen to advice because you failed to properly research your own problem before hand, but have decided to blame me, even after what i told you was correct, and insult me?
Also, I just found info saying Dan has done "gas bus" whatever the fuck that is and blood doping and all kinds of shit. Why does Dan hate himself? I mean, this is crazy. How much gear is he running? 3-5 grams? Thanks for the info.
>>36646844
>>36646844
KEK
>>36646941
Youre small :))))
Teeny tiny joffrey :))
>>36646463
> average weight
Pretty sure he only reccomends this to underweight novices.
Relaxbro
>>36646941
are you feeling rekt yet? he proved you right by fixing the exact problem you described, such buttmad you must feel
lel this fuckign place sometimes
>>36646941
Teeny Tiny Joffrey :)
Itsy bitsy boy :)))
>>36646990
>Pretty sure he only reccomends this to underweight novices.
no, there's a 1h something lecture on ss's youtube channel where he says 5000 for fuckign everyone not just skinny skellies
>>36646991
joffrey BTFO
Heavy(ish) bench singles today lads. not nervous at all actually should be ezpz opener weight or below.
>>36647009
Which day (of the meet) are you going to be lifting on?
>>36647005
No there's not.
He has said multiple times that drinking a lot of milk is for people who need to gain weight, not lose weight.
The itsy bitsy Joffrey climbed up the waterspout.
Down came the rain
and washed the Manlet out.
Out came the sun
and dried up all the rain
and the itsy bitsy Joffrey climbed up the spout again.
>>36647035
yes there is faggot go look yourself
but a 180lbs or whatever the fuck male doesnt need 5000 cals to gain weight that is retarded
>>36647032
the first day of the meet, the PM session, April 14th.
>>36647035
> baby mammals drink milk, you are a baby mammal
>>36647048
Are you saying 180 is light
>>36647048
>yes there is faggot go look yourself
No there's not.
>>36647048
Burden of proof is on you faggot
>>36647059
180lb at 6'0 is pretty skelly, benching brother.
>>36647048
Oh look what I've found.
https://youtu.be/6HV-wvNa2GM
That was hard
>>36647066
>>36647068
>>36647082
you shitbags are making me look skim through this shitty lecture again ill kill you
>>36647059
i do agree with rippe on that there is no adult male under 200lbs
>>36647059
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pkcJEvMcnEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5XJ2GiR6Bo
I can't remember what you showed me and what I want to show you. I'll post more in a minute.
>>36647059
Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMcsVbdxQOQ
>>36647095
Ok bro
>>36647136
Oops meant to reply to >>36647091
>>36647059
Turns out I did not have more
>>36647136
when im done with this ill ask myself what i accomplished by proving you wrong faggot
>>36646031
Is 140kg squat at 71 good progress after 18 months? I am 5'7". Should I shoot for 77kg?
>>36647166
Almost nothing. It's been fun tho lad.
>>36647178
its fine
you should be gaining weight for at least 5-7years of your career, so yes
>>36647178
77kg isn't a weightclass. and not really, maybe going for literally sedentary to 140kg in 18 months is ok but it could be faster. why aren't you running/ did you run SS?
INCY
>>36647048
>In addition, the diet that must be followed is the one that best facilitates the program, and this will be different for everybody depending on age, body composition, program adherence, and genetic potential. The goal of the program is not to make you fat. The program is for increasing strength and muscle mass.
>On the other hand, if you’re a little fluffy around the belly, you have obviously already created the conditions necessary for growth. You’ll start out stronger than the skinny guy, and strength gains have the potential to come easier for you if you eat correctly because your body hasn’t got the problems with growing that skinny guys do. You still eat a lot, but you don’t drink the milk and you cut your carb intake if you don’t see bodyfat levels drop during these first couple of weeks.
>You still eat a lot, but you don’t drink the milk and you cut your carb intake if you don’t see bodyfat levels drop during these first couple of weeks.
>You still eat a lot, but you don’t drink the milk
>you don’t drink the milk
>you don’t drink the milk
>don’t drink the milk
http://startingstrength.com/articles/clarification_rippetoe.pdf
Also >>36647082
>>36647188
>it's literally 1h30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJKwoc7Rb8o
needle in a haystack, srs
>>36647217
i said shitall about milk, he says 5000cals plain and simple in this presentation
>>36647196
I ran SS for 9 months, minus power cleans. I was afraid to gain weight, perhaps why I'm not as far on as I should be.
WINCY
>>36647196
>maybe going for literally sedentary to 140kg in 18 months is ok but it could be faster
Fuck you I've been lifting for 18 months and I can't even squat 2pl8s for reps at 80 kilos
>>36647178
>Should I shoot for 77kg?
No, women shouldn't weigh that much.
>>36647237
:^)
MARTIN BRENNER
>>36647241
Okay then Mr comedian, 74 or 83?
>>36647223
Literally just read this shit http://startingstrength.com/articles/clarification_rippetoe.pdf
>>36646031
I am so close to a triple 3 plate deadlift
>i know Im still too weak ;_;
>>36647256
83kg
>>36647237
idk what to tell you friend. either you're doing something wrong (likely, because i doubt anybody health person's genetic limit is <2 plate) or you really aren't cut out for this.
like i said its more likely you're doing something wrong. if you come back and say like "oh i also got injured for 17 months" then obviously that's different than training hard for 18 months and not making progress.
>>36647256
Dis me in October. I can do 115 3 x 6 now. Running Candito linear, like the way he spreads the volume out during the week.
https://youtu.be/6PS_lwxoH14
Just got all, 4 reps lads :')
Who's smaller:
1. Joffrey
2. A microbe
Vote now
>>36647321
Jesus that back angle.
![miket-rpe[3].png](https://i.imgur.com/9ORLSTK.png "miket-rpe[3].png")
>>36647324
Good job, @10?
>>36647321
I added a belt to my working sets too. obvs makes it easier. Did I dun good?
>>36647353
Depends.
>>36647345
Literally everyone says this.
>>36647321
>you sound super gay
>you need to be tighter
Anonymous 04/04/16(Mon)17:26:57 No.36647185>>36647204
>>36646927
I just did bench press
I HATE everybody here who inflated their bench max on Sheiko, as I followed along with the crowd. Just today I learned than using your real max is going to be infinitely more beneficial than otherwise
What did he mean by this? I inflated my Sheiko bench because it felt too easy otherwise.
>>36647347
9.5!
>>36647363
I'm jealous. I can lean forwards but my back angle is consistent for the most part.
>>36647364
Tighter back? I was getting elbow tendonitis at this time a lot.
>>36647385
tighter core in general really, can see how loose you are as you get into the hole
>>36647378
Hip drahve.
What can I say? Rippletits advice worked for me, stare at the floor, shove your ass out the hole.
>>36647066
>>36647068
>>36647082
>>36647217
https://youtu.be/VJKwoc7Rb8o?t=1h5m12s
How mad are you now?
How the hell do you get this low of a back angel? I couldn't do that without rounding my back...
Hip mobility?
>>36647412
knees out
If Chris Duffin was in your gym giving everyone free advice, would yoou make him look at your squat and consider his critique? Honestly.
>>36647426
Of course? Why would I not?
>>36647412
My yoga teachers have commented on my open hips.
I shove my knees out hard otherwise I can't open my hips up enough to do it and hit depth.
>>36646150
im not quite tall as fuck
but this made me laugh lad
>>36647439
I always see
>listening to duffin
when people talk about advice Duffin gives.
>>36647455
>>36647418
Great. Time to get out of bed and find a mirror and come back and complain I can't do it
Brb
>>36647402
He's literally talking about underweight males.
>>36647484
>5000cals
>for any "skinny" dude
that is retarded
>>36647418
>>36647455
Yeah fuck that after all. My back rounds and hamstrings are waayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too tight to do this.
My squat is better I'm sure. I d-don't n-need to squat like that...
>>36647500
>I d-don't n-need to squat like that...
no really, why do you think you do?
What's phillips squat like? I'll copy that.
>>36647500
Post pics. Are your knees tracking over your toes?
You faggots are much nicer than the rest of this board.
>>36647515
It looks cooler than my squat...
>>36647525
Yeah knees are over toes. I have INCREDIBLY tight hamstrings but if I stretch them that causes me problems.
I should do more RDLS.
Until then I'll squat with a consistent back angle.
>>36646553
trappy makes everything so clear and easy to understand
ps one other thing, is there any way you could lmao grip my dick, or does what you said last time still stand: get in line!
>>36647537
>It looks cooler
irrelevant, back angle is determined by your proportions and your stance width, it's not something you should actively try to change
Reminder inflating your maxes on Sheiko is RETARDED and defeats the purpose of the program
>>36647550
Can you show me examples of different back angles on the low bar squat? I always assumed I should do a good morning rippetoe squat.
>>36647550
You want a back angle that keeps your hammies tight, as it was written in the book of Ripp.
>>36647564
who doesnt know that ?
>>36647570
I don't know. I don't know how to squat. I don't understand what you're telling me.
>>36647590
Get a coach or read SS again until you can feel the difference. I can tell when my hips shoot forward prematurely, and the rep is harder.
>>36647568
>I always assumed I should do a good morning rippetoe squat.
rippe is a hack
i'll give some examples of low bar squatters and let you google
>layne norton, steve goggins
very exaggerated back angle, rippe would be proud
>max aita
almost looks highbar upright even when lowbaring
>andrei malanichev
relatively upright
squats come in all kinds of different forms, that's my main gripe with SS it seems to think there is an ideal way for everyone which is bull
Spoto press was suuuuuper easy today. I guess it really does work
Is there any downside to doing 2 sets of 3 instead of one of 5 on TM ID? I feel like it makes more sense with heavier Weights. I think Lasek recommends it only when you Stall on 1x5 but im thinking of trying it out earlier since keeping good Form during the lifts is easier with less reps in One set and the number of total reps stays the same
>>36647622
What's the point of spoto presses?
>>36647624
2x3 better for powerlifting because you use heavier weights.
>>36647620
I thought I was doing it wrong this whole time...
>>36647655
ss tricks a lot of people into that
check ed coans, bryce lewis and max aitas squat vids on supertraining, think they go through it pretty well
>>36647620
See this figure doing the back squat? This is identical to my lowbar squat.
The diagram is high bar.
Am I doing something fundamentally wrong?
>>36647630
makes lower part of bench where its near your chest stronger
>>36647680
>Am I doing something fundamentally wrong?
not at all based on that, different proportions lead to different squats
you can play a little with how far your knee travels but that's about it in terms of affecting your back angle, it's basically genetic
>>36646444
>So in order for me not to be "stealing information" I should write a scientific paper in every post?
No, but you should do your best to make clear where you've sourced the information compiled on your website and when giving advice.
>>36647520
Absolutely beautiful is what it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZgbo2DXxe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPPWv6twCws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TV0uUjPCro
>>36647690
Is there any benefit to doing spoto press vs pause bench? I already pause every rep, but maybe something like 3 sec pauses.
>>36647708
How does he stay so upright...
>>36647640
I thought so. But is there any downside to it? There has to be a reason 1x5 is recommended to do first
>>36647720
idk ask someone else ive just heard a lot of good about spoto
>>36647733
>How
>you will never have filip's lolfemurs
>>36647564
Yeah :(
>>36647708
>>36647704
>>36647679
These 3 posts have taken away my anxiety. I was tricked into thinking I was broken.
My squat is almost identical to phil.
>>36647747
>see knut
>immediately hear "friendship" in my head
oh fuck you filip
>>36647733
Femur length.
>>36647751
>filip's lolfemurs
>>36647755
ss has some good info, just don't treat it as a bible as rippe is super pragmatic
now go increase your squat
>>36647751
..is it me or is there nothing extraordinary about these femurs?
>>36647773
They're very clearly average or below in length.
>>36647755
same here.
>>36647773
F I l l I P
Pretty cool name. Shame you chose body oreo
>>36647791
>..is it me or is there nothing extraordinary about these femurs?
They're attached to my friend!
>>36647744
Has 2x3 less hypertrophy or something? Seriously, why 1x5 on ID? Because it takes less time?
Best way to deal with tendon overuse? Rehab work or just rest?
>>36647820
Why not both?
>>36647814
I have no idea. I actually think 1x5 is pretty retarded.
FILLIP
F I L L I P
F I I I I P
FIIIIP
>>36647825
I guess i was more asking
>do I have to stop squatting entirely or is it okay to squat and do some rehab
>>36647797
my limbs in general are upper average/above average
tBh I see loads of people fold their upper body over their femurs instead of getting the hip mobility to descend inbetween the femurs, and then blame long femurs because their squat starts to resemble that of say, layne norton. One thing I do really well is how I manage to get down between my femurs.
>>36647844
>instead of getting the hip mobility
how2cop hip mobility?
explain to me why I shouldn't train my deadlift like leeman
>>36647844
so what the fucks wrong with me
am i just retarded and not between my femurs?
>>36647835
I have elbow tendinitis which I ignored and it went away
So did my crippling lower back pain
So did my torn trap
So did my strained lat
So did my strained calf
So did my wrist pain
So did my knee pain (osgood schlatter disease)
Just ignore it lad. It all goes away.
>>36647859
you arent roiding
if you are go right ahead
>>36647866
I think you do it breddy good tBh
>>36647866
that was excruciating to watch
>>36647869
Did your social anxiety and depression also go away?
>tfw I'm an awkward lanky fuck that would have to take copious amounts of steroids to look like I lift
>>36647866
your knees collapse and push your hips back and away from the center of gravity (bar)
if you kept your knees constant you wouldn't have that wonky pitch forward
>inb4howdoifixit
I have no idea as I've never had this issue due to having 21% length femurs
>>36647858
I dont know I did so much shit it could be anything.
Did lots of third world squatting and just forcing mobility by holding myself to a rack etc. Never was much though to it, just "lets get into the position I want to be in by force"
>>36647882
You might be mistaking me for another anon
>>36647866
Mate, I don't think your squat is as ugly as you think it is. I accepted I had squat dismorphia long ago, your squat is beautiful. All squats are beautiful.
Except high squats.
>>36647866
you're trying to lift more weight than you can fucking lift.
the number doesn't matter, the form does. every rep with perfect form or go home. you are trying as hard as possible to get a knee injury with that awful knee wobbling.
>>36647894
I agree with this, his squat is breddy good
>inb4 you start quoting Rand
>>36647866
I'm much weaker than you, but it looks like you aren't pushing your hips forward and under you very much and are artificially limiting knee travel and putting your hips too far back to begin with, assuming you're trying to do an olympic kind of squat in that webm
>>36647859
LOL'd. You mean the guy that drops his 135 pound warm up sets of deadlifts. He drops all his warm ups and then his grip fails. He advocates double overhand during warm ups and wonders why his grip is taxed before working sets. Ok. How much gear is Dan Green on?
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>>36647906
>>36647620
>that's my main gripe with SS it seems to think there is an ideal way for everyone which is bull
you've obviously never read SS
>>36647897
looks like he's learning about what his knees should or shouldnt be doing desu
>>36647926
Did she ever utter two sentences in a row that didnt include the word "selfish"?
>>36647897
>the number doesn't matter, the form does.
You should probably post anywhere else but here.
>>36647934
>"I don't care what you think of me; I don't think of you at all."
>>36647928
i have, even made amazing gains on it
there is a lot of shit rippe preaches that's not at all set in stone
squat grip for example, definitely how to handle the ascent (muh hip drahve), lowbar vs highbar, the fact that we have multiple WRs as highbar just shows he's wrong, etcetc
How to combat knees coming in on the ascent of heavy squats? Ed Coan says more reps, but I want more solutions because this is really annoying. I'm scared of snapping my knees up. I'm already warming up by using a band around my legs and squatting down, forcing my knees out.
I was thinking of focusing more on tensing my groin/pushing my adductor area out instead of thinking knees out. Which cues work best for you guys?
>>36647879
dude, those slow squats are SERIOUSLY devils work, but man do they make shit clean up quick.
>>36647876
th-thanks
>>36647885
tbqh i've spent time forcing it out of existence and it doesn't change much for me.
wonky as it is its just part of how i operate. When i get practiced up more, the pitch forward becomes much less pronounced, but its still there and it almost becomes controlled
>>36647894
yeh, its really not that bad.
Actually recently after switching back to high bar i'm enjoying how it looks alot
>>36647906
thanks friend
>>36647897
fucking kek, jokes on you senpai i was like 60% trolling
>every rep perfect or go home
mmmmmhmmmm
go do some of these 20 s TUT squats and then we'll talk about perfect form. the whole deal with this is that they break your form down.
>>36647912
i mean, there's literally nothing that can be done about those things lol
my question was meant to be more tongue in cheek
>>36647953
push feet out against the sides of your shoes
>>36647953
try tensing your hips/glutes a bit before you start the squat, maybe shit isnt as active as it should be
>>36647962
its cool that you arent a self deprecating rek anymore desu
>>36647953
The classic "spread the floor" cue has always worked for me. A little collapse is ok mate. Maybe do a little work on the GoodGirl/BadGirl machine?
Isley deals with this issue a lot, you may try asking him next you see him.
>>36647962
Norse, I'm switching to high bar squats. Pendlay shoes recommended? I've only ever squatted in Chucks. How much gear is Dan Green on?
>>36647962
Yo bro, what weight would you recommend hitting for the slow squats? 80% of your 5RM?
If you've played around with paused squats, what did you find helped more?
>>36647974
>> asking isley for squat advice
>>36647975
>I'm switching to high bar squats
Is this our new meme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyfoznyuGSw
How do I get a bench this perfect?
>>36647887
>Did lots of third world squatting
This is a good tool tbqh, used it meself to get more comfortable at the bottom of HB squats. Slav squatting while watching sitcoms or whatever. Also squat-to-stands.
Your screw-feet-into-floor cue helped me last week btw. I used to think it was the same as pushing knees out and pressure on outside of feet, but it felt completely different and better. Am a bit excited to try it again tomorrow.
>norsechad
>>36647986
any ~300lb man on steroids should be able to sink and heave 260lbs pretty cleanly lad.
Lots of good squat advice in this thread and I'm over here not even squatting.
>>36647984
I don't wanna deal with the bicep stuff, bud. I'd rather build up a massive high bar squat and work on mobility.
>>36648033
>I don't wanna deal with the bicep stuff, bud
So you mean you don't want to spend the time to figure out your grip, so you'd rather change squatting styles?
>>36647951
>squat grip
its the best way to prevent elbow/wrist pain. he's not trying to make champions he trains novices/weak people. what you view as 'optimal' for lifting isn't optimal for longevity.
>how to handle the ascent
he doesn't preach it as be all end all - its a cue that he uses to help teach people to utilise their posterior chain more, and it does just that.
>lowbar vs highbar
that you can lift more lowbar? cause you can. its called biomechanics.
>the fact that we have multiple WRs as highbar just shows he's wrong
no, that shows that some very talented people can and have done well primarily training high bar.
>>36648046
I did the thumbless grip bullshit and I still couldn't bench for a week or two. I'd rather squat high bar and figure my shit out and work on upper body mobility instead of worrying if moving my grip half a centimeter in will blow my bicep out. I need full mobility either way and Dan Green and others advocate the High bar squat for off season training. I'm not competing until 2017 so I'm not too worried about how much I can low bar.
squatted with wraps again today
wew. i'm fucking garbage, forgot how to use the fuckers
couldn't get the wrap pattern quite right on each leg and i completely missed the bottom position on every rep kek
Gunna take a couple weeks to get back into the game, But judging by how badly i failed wrapping and the speed of this, If i spend a good amount of time practicing the wraps I should be able to hit 650+ again pretty soon.
>>36647973
dude right, lifes so much better lmao
>>36647975
i mean, don't switch because I am, if you're going to do it do it because they're better for you and they're what you want
as for shoes, I've heard lots of good about the pendlays, but i heard a random fucking rumor that pendlay and MDUSA went tits up? I haven't looked into it i have no idea if thats true or not
>how much gear
only jeebus knows
>>36647977
>80%
NOOOOOOOOOO
no no no.
way too high. I started with 67.5% and i thought my fucking quads were going to fall off after 2 singles.
I think they both have a place. the super slow reps are great, but if you are really struggling at the sticking point because of mechanical issues, but you can't handle the stress of the super slow squats, a simple 2 second pause at the point of difficulty at equally easy %'s could get the job done just fine too.
>>36648010
I DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE 5 TIMES I HAD SEX THIS WEEKEND
on that note tho, jesus having a horny af gf is gr8
>>36648027
>any man* should be able to sink and heave 260 lbs pretty cleanly lad
>>36647965
I flex my glutes and externally rotate my hips before I go down. I try to do a good warm up to get all those parts ready.
>>36647964
>>36647974
I'll focus on keeping the weight on the outside and spreading the floor more. I haven't drilled those into my head yet, so I hope it helps. I'd use the vagina machine but my gym doesn't have one, so I just use the band. It's annoying because I'm strong enough to move more weight, I don't have to grind reps, but I'm weak somewhere that causes my knees to cave too much so I'm scared to push myself because I don't want to fuck my shit up.
Thanks fags.
>>36648085
holy fucking shitkek that video
idk what happened
>>36648085
fucking kek
that webm
