>Been skinny my whole life
>110lbs at 5'10 back in HS
>Start SS
>6 months in, still 110lbs
>See on /fit/ how skellies managed to escape their condition in two or three months
Are all of you guys fucking NEETs?
>>35232150
I think I can see your problem. You forgot to eat.
>>35232150
>hurr ima starta da SS durr
You're supposed to read the book
You're supposed to eat food
Your situation calls for GOMAD too
Congrats, you're a fucking retard
>>35232150
> he forgot to eat
>>35232150
>mfw he fell for the hidden meta "GOMAD is a meme" meme
KEK
>>35232193
i eat
>>35232341
No you don't.
>>35232341
No. You don't.
If you actually ate anything, you'd have at least gained 5 pounds. We could tell you you fucking suck at gaining weight because you need to eat more.
But we can't even do that, because apparently you chew a couple of pieces of broccoli and get full and call that eating.
Man the fuck up and start putting food in your mouth.
>>35232341
Not enough. Calories in calories out. Read the sticky. Blah blah. Bye.
>>35232341
At 5'10", 110lbs you should probably be eating at least 2000 to maintain that weight. Get a calorie counting app and actually track for a week. If you don't hit at least 17 500 you're just another bitch ass skelly who aint gonna make it.
Am i progressing well enough?
23 years old
5'9''
i get 80g protein a day
200-400 cals a day surplus
november 16 -
weigh 121lbs
bench 65lbs 5reps
deadlift 135lbs 5reps
squat ??? need to have knee surgery because of fluid build up, not comfortable doing squats.
december 12 -
weigh 122lbs
bench 85lbs 5reps
deadlift 155lbs 5reps
Is this good progress or should i go to the gym more or should i eat more?
pic is where i want to be in 2 years, is it possible if i work hard enough?
>>35232150
Eat more. The situation is probably that you think one chicken breast weights around 250-300g while its more like 150. Buy a scale from ebay and measure at least the meat. You should also start drinking 4scoops everyday.
>>35232409
More protein
>Is a skinny doesnt eat faggot
>Makes no gains
>hurr must be cause you guys are neet
People here are doing degrees, have full time jobs and still make gains. You just suck and are a little skinny bitch
>>35232422
i forgot oats has protein. that brings it up to 100g per day. i'm thinking now that i'm not getting the surplus of calories i think i am and i will do that now but is there some sort of chart that will tell me how i am supposed to be progressing for my stats?
>>35232564
every body is different theres no "CHART" on how to progress
everyone progresses different anyway. Just keep your diet straight and work out hard.
Be patient. Thats all. Takes a few months sometimes to see a decent result.
>>35232409
> 80g of protein
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>>35232667
i just don't want to waste any effort and time and want to make sure i'm on track. Wanted to start all of this sooner but people are always holding me back from my potential. Anyways, since i'm so weak i can only do so much before i can't do any more, i go to failure every time and lower the weight and go to failure till i can't do anymore and after a few minutes i just keep doing the bar but then i don't feel like i've done enough. I get home and sleep enough and wake up for work with slight tightness but its never the doms i'm looking for which makes me think i'm not doing enough but i go to failure as much as i can. I go to the gym every day. Why am i so unsatisfied? I work hard but it feels its never enough
>>35232701
i've revised that number to 100g protein and i only weigh 122lbs, i don't know what you're saying to me
>>35232150
No they actually fucking ate you idiot
>>35232725
Eat more? Calories and protein are your fuel for muscle gain. Also you're not squatting, once you fix your knee and can squat you'll see more gains, I guarantee you. Your progress is alright, but if you ate more it'd be much better imo, take it from a previous skeleton. http://www.strengthstandards.co/#/
>>35232150
You are supposed eat you fucking idiot
>>35232742
You should eat your bodyweight in grams of protein famalam, which means 122g a day, AT LEAST.
>>35232797
but i've read that its actually 0.8g x only lean body mass calculated with the metric system
>>35232797
why are you telling him lies? he only needs .8g/lb.
stop spamming these memes familia
>>35232797
No. You need .82g per lb of lbm on a cut and .68 on a bulk. Notice how I said LBM not bw.
>>35232856
Shut up, 1g per lb body weight is fucking awesome on a cut, and why? You are sure you a re never protein deficient for catabolism, and it also means less calories coming from Carbs to meet your calories for the day=less water weight=Looking good
>>35232894
you retain water when eating carbs? is this true? how much if so? is it worse than sodium? how does it compare?
>>35232183
>You're supposed to read the book
not OP but, speaking of which, does anybody have a pdf/torrent of ss? (and practical programming too)
>>35232894
Nothing wrong with it, it's just excessive.
There's a study on this and believe it or not, noobs need the most protein because they are able to put on muscle more easily than bodybuilders who are struggling to put on a few lbs of muscle in a year.
The numbers I gave you are perfect. At .82g per lb of lbm you will experience no loss of muscle. (Keep in mind even the best protein powders fall a few grams short in the 'actual protein per serving' category in lab tests, so eat .82g/lb of lbm + like 10 grams or so just to be safe
>>35232905
>CarboHYDRATES
>>35232911
You can get programming pdfs ag >>>/g/
Not sure about torrents, but maybe try the internet archive, scribd or academia.edu for pdfs.
>>35232150
holy goal body
>>35232150
I see someone hasn't read the sticky
>>35232150
Attainable natty?
OP here I'm back
This is what I ate this mornin
6 egg whites
200g pork
3 bananas
1L of berry juice
1L of chocolate milk
>>35232409
>bench 85 lbs
>>35233090
Egg yolk is great, don't understand why people cut it out.
3 bananas is overkill, you don't need that many and Berry juice is a bitch because it's just packed full of sugars, you're missing the fibre you'd get from eating it in it's regular form and that's gonna fuck you up
also chocolate milk? don't be a bitch just drink full fat milk you kek
>>35232165
>>35232150
This, it's taken me almost 3 years to get to a 5*140kg deadlift because I find it so difficult to consistently eat the amount of calories that I need to.
Man you skinny bitches sure are lucky. I fucking hate cutting and all you get to do is stuff your face with beautiful, beautiful bulking foods
>>35233169
DRINK MILK
>>35233090
>Little to no healthy fat
>Shitty sugary carbs
2-300g oatmeal and 8-10 whole eggs scrambled with an added 100ml of full fat cream is so much easier than what you eat and has a way better macro split
>>35233090
>Can't gain weight
>Throws out eggyolks
why
>>35232150
You arent trying hard enough when training. If you did you would have felt hungrier and eaten more.
>>35233235
more like
>can't gain weight
>throws out egg yolks
>chugs tons of sugar
fucking retard OP
>>35233245
>>35233235
>>35233227
I tried oats
I tried 100g at first, couldn't eat that shit it was so fucking disgusting
I dont eat yolk because it's apparently chockfull of cholesterol? Isn't 8-10 yolks completely nuts?
>>35233264
Theres good and bad cholesterol, cholesterol from eggs helps boost test. Flavor oats with whatever you want, you're drinking sugar water and sugar milk atm so even pouring tons of honey and cinnamon on your oats isnt exactly any worse
>>35233090
>egg whites
OP at least keep 3 of those yolks if not all of them. you're trying to gain weight so why literally throw out gains in the trash?
>>35233275
Ah fuck. So sugar doesn't count as calories?
>>35233291
Sugar counts its just not very beneficial, you're way better getting fat in your diet than sugar for bulking
>>35233301
Alright, thanks.
You guys got any recipes to make oats palatable? I'm forcing myself and it's very fucking hard, I gotta get up at 6AM in the weekend just to eat my breakfast
>>35233303
Bake them into flapjacks or something if you can't eat them normally
>>35232150
took me 6 months
6'1 130 >202ish right now going for 225.
Honestly, try to eat 4 meals a day, with milk, doesn't have to be whole, but 4 regular meals a day, snacks, and a lot of fucking milk.
>pic was 8 months after bulking, 1 year ago, and I don't fit either shirts anymore
>and I only did 5x5
>>35233303
put tea spoon of honey, stir them around and let them sit for 5 minutes while you do other shit so the oats take in the milk.
>>35232150
I'm going to x-post here because I'm about to start SS this coming Monday.
I plan to eat 2 cups of rice a meal, 5 meals a day, so that's:
2x5x242cal = 2420 cal
2x5x4.4g protein = 44g protein
2x5x53g carbs = 530g carbs
2x5x0.4g fat = 4g fat
That's in rice alone, not accounting the meal itself (veggies, poultry, meats, dairy, fish)
What do you guys think?
5'8" hungry skelly here.
I'm asian and eating that much rice a day is no problem for me. What I'm worried about is the other macros.
>>35233348
2 cups cooked is a fuck ton man holy shit, do 2 cups of brown rice throughout the day
I only do 1 cup of brown and I am steady gaining.
>>35233363
wait sorry im high af I realized you would spread 2cup throughout the day.
I eat 1/4 cup with one meal so you should be ok
>>35233363
Every meal I've ever eaten in my entire life has rice in it. 2 cups a meal is not that much, t b h.
>>35232341
troll post but either way you weigh less than my average 162cm korean gf
how does it feel to eat less than a tiny asian girl?
>>35233370
>korean gf
>>35233386
Korean good is pretty good for gains
>>35232150
>>6 months in, still 110lbs
You aren't eating enough. Probably deluding yourself into thinking you are though.
>>35233303
do you have a blender? i put that shit in a shake 400cal easy in one gulp im fat as fuck btw
>>35233340
>tfw pushing your arm against your side instead of flexing.
youre lying to us and more importantly youre lying to yourself.
>>35233264
Don't be such a bitch. I do half cup of oats with water and 5 whole eggs every morning. Take a leaf out of colemans book and add cheese sprinkles if you really can't eat it
>>35233447
I wasn't pressing it, and I went and tried what you said in the mirror it doesn't look bigger that way :\ maybe for fatties
regardless my "after" picture is DYEL tier anyways
>>35233340
What was your typical meal in a day?
Fuck guys, I'm really motivated to grow, but I'm a picky eater, and oats literally make me want to puke. Regarding yolks, /fit/ is always mixed regarding their health risks.
Knowing I'm 55kg at 178cm, what should be my daily prot intake?
>>35232725
If you're skinny, you shouldn't be worrying too much about protein intake but rather eating a lot of food.
>>35233340
this gives me hope
>Start SS
>6 months in, still 110lbs
how can I into this insane level of metabolism?
also, don't try to learn SS without qualified adult supervision
>>35233486
0.85g per pound, so like 105grams
>>35233112
we've all been there you fat fag, give the guy a break, he's making steady gains
>>35233486
>breakfast
2 cups of oats, since you don't like them I suggest 2 slices of toast loaded with peanutbutter, I was eating 4 eggs, 2 slices of turkey bacon as well...You can get away with eating egg yolks for a few months its not like the rest of your life
>lunch
chicken breast, sometimes two, brownrice
>dinner
pork chop, beef stew meat, chicken breast, or another lean/fatty meat, I'll have it with brown rice and greenbeans/broccoli use olive oil, maybe throw an egg or two on your rice
>drinks
milk, water, protein powder, tea
>snacks
greek yogurt, peanut butter, almonds (unactivated), walnuts, really just anything no candy or sweets tho
Really rough guideline
>pic related is a good guide line if you don't like eating oats, I make 4-5 batches so they're ready throughout the week
>also when I'm in a hurry I'll get a burrito rice beans cheese and meat only, or get tendies
>>35233541
maybe in the 5th grade faggot
>>35233530
>le metabolism meme
He simply didn't eat enough idiot
Yeah, you are not eating enough. Don't care what you think, your body abides by the laws of physics just like everyone else.
>>35233530
I don't know how you're progressing at 6 months without eating man
As a former skelly, I had to change my perception on eating. I could eat one meal a day and be okay. I got hooked on those gay ironpill comics, so everyday I force my self to eat for "europa". Cringe worthy as fuck, but hey it works for me. Point is you need to change how you feel about eating.
>>35233552
but some people eat a lot of calories and can't gain shit, it's scientifically documented
what do you think it is?
>>35233369
2 cups dry or cooked?
>>35233576
>What do you think this is
A very low quality piece of bait
>>35233581
Cooked, of course.
>>35233589
>fatties study
but we're talking about skellies
>>35232409
That's good progress, but you need to eat more. 1lb a month is not enough, get to at least 4. Instead of eating 3 meals a day, try eating 4-5, make sandwiches etc... Eat more
>>35233340
Looked better on the first pic.
>>35233340
Lay off the milk a bit. I used to be a 4pint a day milk drinker. I don't know the science behind it but it makes me look puffy and less vascular.
>>35233655
It was only to get to that point, I cut down to like 180ish after. I usually only have about 2-3 cups a day now.
>>35233654
t-thanks, you too
Lads, I just made a food plan
>Morning
Shake with:
1L of full milk
1 scoop whey
100g oats
4 toasts with jam and butter
1 omelette with 6 full eggs
That's already a fuckload of cals innit?
6 eggs
1/2 gallon milk
6 scoops protein
6 chicken thighs
1 cup broccoli
>>35233264
>Oats are disgusting.
>Drinks chocolate milk.
Fatty in disguise confirmed.
Gained around 7 pounds in the last 3 weeks after having weighed 135lb (5"8) for the last 10 years. I don't even need to force food down, I'm hungry af all day. I go to the gym 5 days a week for about an hour (no fucking around, no breaks, no talking, no looking in the mirror except for checking if I'm doing my exercises right). I'm a full time student and I work 20 hours a week, so you don't need to be a NEET. I eat half a litre of curd before bed, drink a litre of chocolate milk every day, beyond that it's mostly just a lot of protein and a lot of carbs. Not taking weight gainer, because I find it pretty disgusting. Taking Pre work out before my gym time seems to make me even hungrier, but even without it I'm hungry as fuck and I wake up after 2 hours if I don't stuff myself before sleep. I'm still skellie, and I cheat on my diet pretty often, but I'm eating more than twice what I used to, I work hard, I'm motivated and I'm going to make it.
oats is the biggest meme food on /fit/
>>35233779
Well nicely done. I really wish I had appetite in the morning.
To all of you ITT, why is chocolate milk bad?
did you eat air in that 6month?
if you dont gain you aren't eating enough,isn't that fucking simple
>>35233795
cows don't produce chocolate milk, m8
high fructose corn syrup industry does
>>35233654
Twink detected
>>35233663
Pls
>All these fags complaining that eating is too hard
>All these fags who don't want to eat protein so that they can overeat on Oreos instead
If you're gonna go to the gym and train, at least put SOME thought into your diet. You can't fuel a car with dirty water
>>35233619
Literally the same shit and same stupid excuses but in reverse.
>>35234456
it's not the same, learn to think
>>35233340
Thanks for posting this
There is hope but I forget it sometimes
>>35232150
Have you tried eating food, OP?
>>35234503
>Fatties underreport food intake
>Skellies overestimate food intake
And that's how the story goes
>>35234530
look at you, you don't know how to think
>you can always cut back from calories to lose weight that's why there are no people who need many more calories to be able to gain weight
>>35233544
>DIDN'T ACTIVATE HIS ALMONDS
>>35234558
never going to make it
>>35234550
>you can always cut back from calories to lose weight that's why there are no people who need many more calories to be able to gain weight
What? Of course people have different needs for calories, I'm just saying that fatties think they eat 2000 kcal when they eat 4000, and that skellies think they eat shitloads when they're really eating like 2000 kcal.
>>35234567
except they tell skellies to eat 7000 or even more
>>35232150
>75 kg 188 cm
>sign up to a gym
>88kg 2 months later
>abs still somewhat visible
>gg ez
>>35234592
>except they tell skellies to eat 7000 or even more
I don't even know what point you're trying to make here but if a skelly ate 7000 per day he wouldn't be a skelly much longer. My original point was that when a skelly says he's eating 7000, he very rarely does.
>>35233478
>and I went and tried what you said in the mirror it doesn't look bigger that way
hahah
>>35234608
the other(?) fag was denying skellies needed more
you were argiung that the cases are symmetrical, when they are not
yes, people suck at estimating calorie intake, who cares.
and some skellies need a lot more than 7000. I could cite the university professor who said it, if you were less annoying and retarded.
> mfw morons everywhere
>>35233853
WHY DONT YOU FUCKING JUST CALCULATE IT YOURSELF?
Dont expect to get spoonfed.
>>35234624
>Hurr ur'e a moron
Please explain how, outside of thyroid issues and other rare diseases/conditions, some skellies need enough food to feed an african village to gain weight.
>>35233264
>I dont eat yolk because it's apparently chockfull of cholesterol?
Which is the resource needed for:
A) production of cell membranes
B) synthesis of all steroid hormones
C) Not being a bitch
You skinny fuckers need all the cholesterol you can get.
I was a skinny fuck who was weak as shit. Now I'm 'the strong guy '. Still weak as shit, though, normies have no sense of scale.
>>35234664
And how did you do it? 10 yolks a day?
>>35232341
this is you
>>35233340
So you bulked at almost 3lb per week?
Think you've got some numbers wrong.
>>35234709
Legit question
Are there some people here who would be able to eat the plate of pastas on the top right part of the picture?
I would throw up midway.
>>35234741
that's a small plate for a normie, m8
any grownup man can eat like three of those easily and feel great
>>35234741
id eat it in 2 minutes if i was hungry and im 62 kg
you guys are all just fucking pussies with no willpower
>>35233303
Cool water, blend it with milk 50/50, put doublw Richard chocolate protein powder with oats and blend, pour water/milk, chop banana and add it, microwave some frozen berries if you want to make it better then add them as Well. Its delicious!
>>35234893
Cook* but really was trying to say boil. English is not my first language
>>35234741
Yes, I need 4200 calories a day just to clean bulk.
I could easily eat that.
>>35234741
I would, but I'd shit blood in a couple of hours.
Oh god how I wish I wasn't allergic to wheat.
>>35234911
>>35234741
This, weight/height?
>>35234931
110lbs 5'10
I wouldn't be able to eat that plate srs, not even half of it desu
>>35232911
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0Vyec-yHY6DVmxLeDlMMjBuV1k&usp=sharing&tid=0B0Vyec-yHY6DYmNiMkg1dlZIelU
>>35234954
maybe start eating a little more every day until you get there?
>>35234954
>110lbs
Fuck off your 50kg
>>35233340
Congrats on your weight gain but I wouldn't go for 225. I made that mistake 2 years in when bulking from skelly skinnyfat mode, and just got fat. Then I cut, then I bulked, cut, bulked and then bulked for 2 years now I'm here. Not that I'm particularly lean, but still.
Muscle & strength gains were best when I was at my leanest (8%, that was a long time ago)
I'd cut if I were you, you lack the muscle to continue bulking.
5x5 is shit, move onto a new routine like 5/3/1, westside, smolov, sheiko, 5 day splits, high volume shit like GVT, a combination of those thing, 2x a day training, whatever - just see how you respond and ensure diet variables are the same.
I personally found 2x a day worked best, but the lack of sleep sucked, working, social life and 2x a day at the gym on top of monstrous eating is hard!
>>35235044
>implying natty
>>35235065
I was natty until I hit 90.2kg.
That was 6 months ago.
>>35233169
3 years for a 140kg diddy, lol. Eating had nothing to do with it, you're just a pussy.
People at 70kg can hit 140kg within months (definitely within a year) just by increasing the weight and pulling on it. That's really not that much weight for a deadlift. If you really wanted to (I'm talking lean bulk together with a powerlifting coach) you can get there within a month or maybe two.
Obviously I'm not telling you to get a powerlifting coach and a 100% strict diet plan. I'm just saying, 140kg is something everyone that actually tried WILL achieve, decently easily at that. If it took you 3 years without multiple horrible injuries, you're just not trying. Food has nothing to do with it, you don't need to bulk to hit laughable numbers like that.
>>35235089
I took a year and a half to hit 140, then I shot up and hit 220 in about 6 months (natty).
I was 18 though (am >>35235044)
I think what I changed was frequency, and technique. Started deadlifting in oly shoes, for some reason that helped, I also psyched myself up and learned how to DL better. Went great.
>>35234456
Not really. fatties who lie about their shit has already proven that their bodies work.
If you're skeltal you might very well be eating normally and then be having problems in your digestion tract.
>skeltal as fuck, when I eat a lot I just start having to take a shit 2-3 times a day
>watery stools whenever that happens
Can't find shit on it besides generic you need more sleep / exercise / there's some certain food that you can't digest. Still trying to rotate with the food to single out what the fucks causing it.
see pic related. no fucking way you'd call that the waist of someone who's been eating at least 2500 cals per day for the last two and a half months.
>>35235044
>you lack the muscle to continue bulking.
that's the most retarded thing I've ever heard on this board
>>35235133
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>>35235153
IT'S A TRAP
>>35235133
>Implying it's not normal to shit more when your body suddenly has to digest more food
>Implying 2500 is that much for a grown man who does some physical activity
Eat more, train more. You're skinny but unless you have diarrhea attacks every day you don't have a problem, you're just an ordinary skelly
no matter what you eat it'll turn to sugar
so just eat fucking sugar
>>35235176
Yes I'm a guy.
>someone on another thread says I have difficulties go up in weight because I'm low on test
sounds like some broscience to me, if having low test prevented you to go up in weight then how comes there are fat women everywhere?
>>35235044
How did you bulk that much cuh
>>35235191
Having to take a dump twice a day sounds normal. Three times a day? And almost everything coming out like it goes down to small intestine thickness shit each time? Yeah no.
m8 I'm over 6ft tall and only weight 54 kg. It's not like there's that much muscle to BURN the cals in the first place.
I would just eat the same meal everyday but add a little bit more until it was big enough for my macros. It took me a few months to eat big enough but just look at it like it's more training. Train your appetite until you can eat enough to put on weight consistently. Who cares if you need a few months to meet your calorie goal. Just focus on lifting hard and you should be fine.
>>35235134
Because he's gained quite a bit of fat, he lacks the muscle to continue bulking, that is his lack of muscle, and his 'bulking status', being hypercaloric and if a standard bulk, high in fatty acids and carbs, his muscle is likely to be insulin resistant, his fat too, he'll likely just gain more fat.
That's all that'll happen, he needs to cut so he improves insulin sensitivity of his muscles, or he can recomp or do a mild bulk because 8 months to go from his tiny weight to that is too quick. He's just increasing fat storage at any point along this bulk, now, that's all. Gains will not be as good as they could be if he cut down to 160-170lbs lean, then slowly bulked there on.
I'm sorry anon but you're retarded.
>>35233340
>Skinny to skinny fat
>>35235233
Trained 2x a day, did lots of cardio too
Ate 820g of carbs a day, 15g fat a day (mostly fish oil) and the rest protein of the 4800kcals I took in. Burned something like 1200 kcals from cardio alone. The rest was an adaptation of westside barbell split up into 2 with extra volume, I followed lyle mcdonalds 2x a day approach but modified it a bit, did carb backloading too, shit load of BCCA/Luciene.
That lasted ages, I had a set diet, only ever went outside of it when eating out with friends, family and girlfriend.
Then I turned to juice for a while and ate like shit, thankfully my bloods show I'm in good health. I took preventive measures outside of diet to help with that thru supplementation.
But desu, I don't find juice did much.
>>35235262
Also I don't really recommend juicing. I honestly expected more out of it.
It isn't that amazing, I think the guys you hear saying its amazing started off low test before cycles, I mean I was at 1000ng/dl+ on all my previous blood tests, my estrogen was normal too. That was natty.
Only bother if you got something like 400ng/dl under, then again it depends on free test and androgen receptor density, but if you train frequently and heavily enough (for dat dere mTOR downstream effectors increasing androgen receptor density on teh nucleus cuz translocation of teh proteins dat enable steroids to bind to it) that's not a problem. You're healthy for you.
I got high free test too, hence my mild glucose intolerance.
Honestly guise don't juice unless you need to, waste of money.
>>35232150
I gained 22 pounds of lean muscle the last two years, which obviously shows, but I'm still a skeleton on /fit/.
>>35233169
>>35235089
It probably took me 1,5 years to get a 3 plate diddy, and I didn't enough either.
I have a severe leg length discrepancy, so now, a year later, I deadlift 130kg, after a big deload. Dunno if I should go for 132,5kg 2x6 tomorrow to play it safe, or do 135kg to progress a bit faster.
Could also just go for a true 6RM, which will probably be 135-145
