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ITT: tools you didn't know you absolutely needed until after you bought one
>dial
pleb
>>931155
Not a fan of expensive watch batteries when a fully mechanical option is available. I do wish I had gotten a metric one instead, though.
Could write a list as long as my arm.
Pic related being quite recent.
>>931160
forgive my ignants but what are they
>>931159
You bought an imperial dial vernier?
>>931159
>expensive
a 10 pack of genuine maxell watch batteries are like $3
>>931162
Planer knife setting jigs.
>>931165
oh cool beans
>>931166
Are you new here?
>>931159
I like vernier calipers. You don't have to change batteries, and you don't have have to zero the dial or worry about that spot about an inch and a half up that always skips a few thousandths. Not that I'm trying to start THAT thread either! I like that I have to use my brain a little when I use them, too. I can always stand a little more of that!
>>931154
Not exact enough
Siriously.
>>931163
Imperial was $5 cheaper than metric at harbor freight. Deal with it, nerd.
At least I got decimal inches instead of fractional, though.
Torque Wrench
>>931217
>harbour freight
>>931155
I like dial. You can rock it back and forth to find high/low spots depending on the shape you are measuring and it is more intuitive to me to watch where the arm bounces back to find the extremes rather than try and interpret numbers quickly.
>>931163
>>931194
>vernier
plz stop this
Headlamp.
I used to think they looked cheesy as hell when I saw people wearing them. But now holy crap I use mine all the time. Especially now that daylight savings time made it get dark faster. It'll be like 7pm and dark already. That's not enough time after work to do the stuff that needs doing. I'll just put this on and keep moving/weed eating the grass or whatever needs doing. Bonus points for this one being able to adjust the beam to cover a large wide area or twist to focus the light on one spot. That wide spread of the light though, man I use that setting a lot.
>>931237
Also this guy. I'll set it up in the yard and keep working. If I called it a day every day at 7pm just because it got dark I'd never get anything done.
>>931228
I've used dials plenty, still do sometimes, but I've sometimes found myself watching the needle too much, being too smart, trying to break the measurement into fourths of a thousandth, on an indicator that plainly said +/- .001 was its tolerance. Crazy stuff! The vernier scale stops me from doing that and makes me get out the micrometer when I should be.
>>931159
>what is vernier
>>931237
I even use one of these for electronics work at the bench. Seriously even with lots of lights in here I still find myself needing some close up light for some some things.
I lurv my iGaging EZCal. Reads in fractions down to the 1/128, decimals, and Metric.
Seriously changed my life.
>>931461
>fractions
>>931217
>Harbor freight
It doesn't matter what units it uses too much, it'll be inaccurate either way. Don't believe me? Buy another one and do a side by side measuring the same objects
>>931553
Also decimals and metric. What's your damage?
Best new tool ever.
>>931563
Check it against a standard. While I loves my Mitutoyo some HF cheapies work pretty well.
Best deals are quality vernier and dial units off Ebay because bitches can't be arsed to read anything not digital.
http://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-5196-Amp-Die-Grinder/dp/B00018AAWY
I maintained a fleet of these and they are fucking insanely nice for grinding, wire brushing and flap wheel use. Great torque, tough as fuck, and easy to fix if you manage somehow to damage one. Much faster than an electric drill and much more torque than most air grinders.
If you work metal or are a mechanic, get one. Used is fine cuz brushes/cords/collets are easy to get.
>>931156
I have one of these, not nearly as comfortable or practical as pic related. Can't really see, but there's an additional square lens kit included, will post in a sec.
>>931194
>don't have to zero
This is part of the issue I have with them, actually. If you manage to fuck up the blades or whatever, or if you need to measure an easily-scratched object (by wrapping paper towels or whatever around the blades), you can't zero dial calipers.
>>931237
THIS. My father got me one and it is so goddamned useful in the most unexpected cases. Much easier than a handheld or phone light.
>>931723
Lens kit. I have a link if anyone cares.
>>931723
>not nearly as comfortable or practical as pic related
well wtf man where were you a couple days ago when i could have cancelled my order. jfc.
>>931728
link pls >:|
Can't believe it took me as long as it did to get a goddam drill press
>>931747
I'm just in the early stages of starting a business and I need to drill into stainless steel a lot to make my products. My prototypes I made on my friend's $60 HF drill press and it barely managed, plus it was underpowered so it didn't cut clean either. Do I really have to spend like $400 on a drill press for this?
>>931753
holy shit that's nasty looking. you'll be lucky to ONLY spend 400 on the drill press you need.
>>931757
th-thanks f-friend
>>931753
spend a couple thousand on a bridgeport
>>931154
>>931763
>>931766
trust me you'll be able to do so much more than you ever thought
>>931753
You need to buy some much better drill bits if you are going to use a bad drill press
>>931782
I don't know a whole lot about drilling into metal, it was kind of a first go. I had a brandy new Milwaukee cobalt drill bit, but yeah it was a learning curve doing the drilling. I'd love to be able to outsource it to a real metal shop with 5000rpm cutting machines and coolant sprays and shit, or even just a heavy duty metal punch, but I don't expect to have that big an operation. Sheitte.
Looks like I can get a breddy good drill press (made for drilling into metal) for around $300... but I'll prolly still chew through bits pretty quickly.
>>931779
That I believe
>>931736
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATMDOA2
>>931794
idunno anon, it's got too many parts. it's too elaborate. 9 different lenses that can be used together and in multiple myriad configurations? i suffer from decision fatigue when it comes to literally everything. i can't even have more than one kind of hot sauce in the house at a time. this is why i play a telecaster instead of a strat, and try to design my builds to be a "it does this one thing but well" sorta thing.
it's kinda overwhelming
>>931787
looking here...
>>931753
What you need is pilot holes, it would help the "chatter".
You don't need a great press.
Stainless is tricky to drill regardless of what you use.
Keep it feeding. True with any metal but especially stainless. You can destroy the "greatest" bits by lack of feed. (the chips carry away the heat)
With proper feed and some coolant like oil, you can drill good holes. (ignore the brand shills, skill trumps any brand but an excessively cheap one).
>>931803
You'll find that one lens is your "default" lens which works for nearly everything you'll need to see.
>>931811
right, which is why i'm satisfied with my purchase of pic related. one binocualr lens, one flip-down binocular lens, one monocular loupe. eight dolla.
>>931810
funnily enough those are salt & pepper shakers, so small holes were already there, i just made them bigger. it would have been almost impossible for me (with my limited resources) to have effectively drilled without those holes already being there.
and yeah, i didn't use oil or anything, i wasn't sure what i was getting myself into until i started. sadly the drill wasn't super strong or fast so it created long metal windings that spun around and scuffed the surface a lot. plus i didn't have a countersink to use which would have made it look nicer.
>>931794
i have to ask, i have a loupe that attaches to my glasses and its an i think 10x-20x and it gets the job done for me. but im curious about the bi lenses of this thing, what is the focal range? would i be able to put this on and use it as reading glasses (no seriously, if i got this i plan on getting the most out of it)
and that led light, how good is that? when im inside my computer i usually put a small ultrafire in my mouth and get shit done, would this be adequate?
http://www.amazon.com/ESALESGOODS-CREE-7W-LED-Flashlight/dp/B016VOHPCO/ref=sr_1_6?s=hardware&ie=UTF8&qid=1453096758&sr=1-6&keywords=flashlight&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A2399168011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A8080030011
i know that is likely a knock off of something with a name brand behind it, but god damn do these get the job done... if you get one make sure its a 3 mode, the single mode flashlights don't strobe on and off really fast so they are prone to overheating, at least if you plan to use the flashlights like a workhorse, if its just a quick turn it on and find something turn it off, you can get the single mode ones for 1-3$
>>931818
not him but based on the specs of the binoc lenses yes, it's suitable to use as a computer glass, reading glass, all the way up to in-your-face close
>>931810
This anon has worked some stainless. What he said x2. There is one other thing that might make your life easier, assuming you're using 300 series stainless: try 400 series. Price might be an issue, I don't know about that without googling it, but I can tell you that compared to 304, 416 is almost like working leaded screw stock. Well... Not THAT much difference, but definitely much easier.
>>931787
Buy the 320$ porter cable at lowes
Impact driver. Thought they were a gimmick. They drive a 3.5" screw into oak like a standard drill drives an 1 1/4" into pine.
>>931824
More for drilling holes really, or doing bolts
>>931822
but lookit
>>931817
The reason I like the one I posted more is it's just more comfortable. That one always makes my head sweat and it's just bad-fitting.
>>931827
Not really for one thing or another. You're talking out your rectum.
>doing up bolts
Why not buy an impact wrench?
>>931827
I just bought a set of drill bits with the quick release bases. I haven't done much drilling but I've yet to run out of power when screwing. Built a pole barn with it. And I love it for working on my car. It turns a 45 minute job into a 15 minute job.
>>931820
oh looking at the specs they look perfect for what i want, granted the whole review section that says they didn't receive what was advertised is a bit concerning, also, at what lengh do the binocular lenses focus at? are we talking arm's lengh or are we talking up close to my face? because my 10-20x loupe focuses best at around 1 inch to an inch and a half away.
>>931836
meant more that you've a better chance of stripping a screw with more power
>>931838
idunno friend, it doesn't say. but it does say great for reading. probably works on the standard diopter principle that the lower the magnification the further the focal distance. 1x, 1.5x, etc are probably quite accommodating to reading, probably
>>931829
Grizzly is a decent brand
Take those ratings with a grain of salt though.
You can drill through 1inch thick steel with the 70$ harbor freight drill press if you are patient enough.
How much is freight on a 154 pound tool?
>>931827
>More for drilling holes really, or doing bolts
1/4 hex electric impacts exist to solely to drive screws, you arent driving a lot of bolts with only ~100 ft pounds of torque.
Just because you CAN do it, doesnt mean its actually worth your time to.
>>931842
The impact action of a 1/4 hex impact driver almost eliminates the stripping of screws. Very easy and predictable, the rotational impact keeps your bit on the screw much more so than a drill with a clutch.
>>931859
You are thinking of a hammer drill, which creates an outward pounding force with the chuck.
An impact creates high levels of torque using a rotational hammer.
This faglord has a pretty good videon showing how it works. Very popular for when you are driving hundreds of screws into lumber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0gSJa3L_7c
>>931862
Ya, had the wrong name, carry on then
Although don't people who need to drill a lot of screws have an air powered screw gun or something to that effect?
>>931845
You can drill through 1" of steel with a $5 flea market special if you know what you're doing.
Fuck the brands. It takes a /pro/ to tell the difference if it isn't a cheapy.
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>>931863
There is always a time and a place for different tools.
This type of tool design is amazing when combined with the new lithium batteries. You can get so much torque while being easy on the batteries.
There is nothing comparable for driving screws, I cant imagine having to drive screws with a clutched drill using Nicad batteries
Something I always wanted to know is why can't my hammer drill have an impact function as well? I don't care if it makes it bigger.
Is it physically impossible or is it that tool companies want to rip you off by making you buy another tool?
>>931870
wat
One of the best things about the 1/4 impacts is how small and portable they are. Hammer drills tower over them because of an elongated regular chuck.
Combining the two different mechanisms would make a monstrosity of a tool, not in a good way
>>931873
I dunno man, most of the impact driver is taken up with battery room, motors, switches, etc... Once that is taken out, the impact mechanism isn't very big.
Hammer drills are getting more and more compact. I wouldn't mind an extra 2-3 inches on my drill if it gave me an impact function too.
These are the closest pic I can find to them.
Inherited these from dad.
Great for stripped screw removal or turning a penny into a cube.
Watta grip. 1/2" jaws with an 8" grip
I'd search for a replacement if I lost 'em.
Someone here said they were "battery terminal pliers", and I found the pic with that.
Don't need them often, but when I do, nothing else would suffice.
>>931818
>>931838
Sorry, took a while to notice your post(s).
Yeah, technically you could use them as reading glasses I think. I've only really used the more powerful lenses for fine work (removing splinters or inspecting hairline cracks, etc.), but the less-powerful ones might work.
You'd be better off with a small flashlight, the LED on this (the lenses) is pretty weak and doesn't provide much past illumination. Not at all good for fixing / inspecting things.
Focal lengths... 4-6 inches in front of your face, maybe more? Don't have them on hand right now, so can't really say.
I'm not 100% sure if my kit came with loupes, will ask the person who has them right now to check in the box tomorrow.
>>931867
There was a time that having a 12v nicd battery drill made you the bees knees in trade.
Kids these days will never know the pain of doing everything by hand.
>>931461
if you can't read the analog calipers you're clearly an undeveloped rock ape.
>>931862
thanks, i learned something new.
>>931827
>More for drilling holes
> Impact screwdriver
> For drilling holes
>>931787
>I don't know a whole lot about drilling into metal, it was kind of a first go. I had a brandy new Milwaukee cobalt drill bit, but yeah it was a learning curve doing the drilling. ...
Stainless is a bitch to work with since it will work-harden.
Various thoughts...
.... Have you tried a tungsten carbide drill yet? A 1/4" stubby carbide drill costs $35 but it is much harder than cobalt. You must use tungsten carbide drills in a drill press (and you must clamp the workpiece down solid!); tungsten carbide drill bits will tend to chip & snap/break if used in a hand-held drill....
.... To cut or drill stainless-steel you must feed at a slow but VERY even speed. It might help to put a single-axis DRO on the drill press to be able to see how fast you are moving it. Look at the igaging or AccuRemote kits on Amazon. These are cheap and not nearly as good as glass scales but they are still way better than nothing.
.... You won't get clean nice holes from any single step of drilling. You will need to buff/polish the outside up a bit after drilling.
>>932004
You don't need expensive drills and fancy jigs and scales to drill holes in stainless.
You are more than capable of drilling stainless with HSS drills. The key is not to use excessive downward force, keep it at a low speed with plenty of lubricant to keep the work piece cool.
>>932006
Stainless hardens easily. When it does then it is hard to drill in it. I made a aplle scratter from a stainless piece of pipe, I needed a couple hundred 3mm holes in it for screws. Everything was swell as long as the steel didn't harden. When it did it was impossible to get trough. Melted down some drill bits when it happened just for the fun of it. With friction.
>>932006
This. I drilled out a hole in my stainless steel sink for a soap pump. I'd never worked with stainless before. Too fast and it gets hot and discolored and will harden.
>>931219
this, they're not even expensive anymore.
for me personally would probably be a 300W metal halide lamp in my workshop, working in the dark is for plebs.
>>931221
>u
>>931223
I find that with a mechanical multimeter. The transients have a sort of "character" that can be interpreted.
The ohmeter on them is always shit though.
>>931215
I do stocktaking work and I have one around my neck for opening boxes.
>>931462
What is it? A saw?
>>932220
>>932234
What is it? A nailgun?
>>931609
> People insist on spending $200+ on calipers
> For home use
> Implying half the shit they make is critical to within 0.001"
> Implying those cheap chinese ones cant even be repeatable to within +-0.001"
> Implying its not your own stupidity for not knowing how to use a pair of calipers
Seriously, if you need that accurate of a measurement, get a bunch of micrometers dipshit.
>>932260
>for what you make
For what I make I use a Stanley tape measure and a ruler.
For the machines and tools I use to make these things with, I use the precision measuring implements.
There's nothing wrong with working to fine tolerances and if that means putting your trust into an expensive product over another, so be it.
Stop using sloppy excuses for lazy workmanship.
>>932237
brad nailer
>>931928
Building houses with Yankee drivers and Braces!
>>931824
I have that. It's great. I dont know why anyone would do any drywall with nails anymore. I built a workbench out of 2x4s and 4x4s with 3 1/2 inch screws and it'd probably blast the screw straight thru the 4x4 if i kept on the trigger.
>>932312
i bet you're tappin' dat shit all day long now amirite
>speed square
Just moved into a house and use it pretty much daily.
>>931766
Holy shit this was my exact reaction
"Okay...."
>>932312
I dont use taps and dies that often, but I tend to used my thread files more than I thought I would.
>>932324
Dumb question: How exactly does it work / what does it do?
>>932334
All the different sides are different thread pitches.
You can clean up and repair (to a certain extent) bad threads on a bolt or stud.
>>932318
>use it pretty much daily.
Same with me bro. Can't make a sandwich without one.
>>932349
Why would you ever need to do that instead of replacing the bolt?
>>932392
Spindles, hard to replace studs, any number of threads integrated into parts, otherwise clean bolts that have a few slightly rough threads etc etc.
Again, they dont do miracles but can really clean certain stuff up nicely
Spent $35 and bought a Harbor Freight electric impact wrench. Thing is ugly as hell, has no variable trigger, and is loud as hell. That said, it has saved me a huge amount of time. I'm not the strongest guy, and its saved me a whole lot of effort and time getting the breaker bar out.
>>932400
I have air impacts now, but I used an electric impact like that for a long time.
So important when changing struts, pulling off tie rod end and ball joint nuts and some other shit.
>>932400
Ya, their 20 dollar drills are alright, but I wouldn't buy much else from there
Amazed these haven't been posted yet...
>>931159
>DIAL
>>932324
I never knew that was a thing.
I need one. Fuck that, I need one now!
>>932273
No. Its a 23 gauge headless pinner.
>>932435
This fucking 10 times.
I'm amazed at how useful these are.
>>931753
Ayy, nice copperphone thing.
These made welding so much better, one tool in my belt holder.
>>931753
looks like you need a deburring tool
http://www.use-enco.com/1/1/30962-sg6000
>>932603
Yeah it is kinda like that except it's ackchully way cooler. The copperphone is a high-quality moving coil dynamic mic with bandpass filtering to make it sound lo-fi. My mics are actual piezo crystal and carbon granule mics, so the shit's authentic!
>>932633
Yes friend yes I do! Thanks for the link
>>931753
You really just need to spend some money on some good quality drill bits. People always cheap out on bits, then they're stunned when they use a high quality one.
>>932002
>implying a fuck tonne of contractors don't just use an impact driver for both drilling and screwing
You've never worked in a trade, have you?
>>932654
Well I got a milwaukee cobalt drill bit for like $9... I didn't see anyting better
A basic rubber mallet. So much better than punching furniture together.
>>931154
>>931155
>>931159
Mechanical is best when you're going cheap. The inaccuracy is just an offset, and when they fail it's visible.
Cheap digital gives you totally random error, no easy way of knowing if the measurements are slipping.
>>931228
I got a cheap vernier measures my screws bolts and drills just fine. Can't afford expensive when saving up for a drill press.
>>931753
Is that the actual product you are making? Because it should be punched out on a press, not drilled. Or you could laser cut the holes on raw sheet stock before forming the cup.
>>932661
Get on amazon and spend ~10$ on a Guhring bit.
Search for Guhring Cobalt Jobber and a bunch of sizes will come up.
Will shit all over any big box store bits
>>932655
Do you realize how expensive impact drill bits are?
Do you realize how little selection there are?
If YOU were in the trade, you would realize that its cheaper and more efficient in the long run to have specific tools for specific jobs. Nobodys got time for that horse shit.
1/4 hex end drill bits are a fucking gimmick
>>932668
Yeah it is. I would love to punch the holes but the cup is already formed, so I'm not sure how to go about making a jig or rig to be able to perfectly punch the holes. Laser would be cool too but probably not an option. I gotta keep costs down, and I'm not making hundreds of these fuggers.
>>932681
I'll look into it
>>932736
psh. get on my level fagüt >:D
>>932716
You probably couldn't afford to have the punch and die made any ways.
At least make a jig to hold the cup because drilling on a curved surface is bound to fuck up.
>>932715
> gimmick
Perfect for us weekend warriors.
Tbh I don't think a home diyer should waste money on an impact driver. A clutched drill is perfect. Does everything, gently. Maybe add a corded hammer drill for those who want to ruin masonry.
>>932754
Well first off, the person was claiming that professionals would be using them, which just doesnt make any sense.
Second off, in my eyes I think they are pretty dumb for a do it yourselfer too.
Anyone who owns a hex impact driver most likely owns a regular drill too. Hell most of the big name tool brands have drill and impact combo sets that are a really good price, trying to get you into their brand specific battery ecosystem.
Paying twice as much for lower quality bits, just to use them in a tool that will be slower and give rougher holes?
More power to you I guess, screams gimmick to me.
>>931928
7.2v makitas
>>932742
Yeah I'm looking into ways to do this sorta thing. It's tricky though. I gotta find investors so I can bulk order supplies, get proper tools, and have form-fitting foam made custom. This is all kinda overwhelmin ':|
>>932947
jesus chryst really?
>>932739
I have like 6. Nothing wrong with that for what i use it for. I have had some read .2 ohms when i just touched the contacts together.
>>932968
mine's actually fukt atm. it bounces from hundreds to tenths of ohms and all over the pale when i touch the leads together. time for a new one methinks. the last one was literally free at HF, so i'll just do that again
>>932661
For drilling lots of holes in stainless, you want a tungsten carbide bit (-and a drill press).
For drilling holes in thin sheet metal, you want a non-twist bit. Any twist drill will tend to grab the sheet and bend it upwards around the edge, which you don't want. (if you notice, the "Unibit" step drills are for sheet metal--and they don't have any "twist"...)
Pic related: some carbide options at Enco, that your local hardware stores aren't going to have. All these are 1/4" diameter.
You can resharpen carbide bits, but you have to grind them (by hand) with a diamond disk on a Dremel tool. Use LIGHT grinding pressure, and grind it outside. Tungsten carbide dust is bad for your lungs.
#1 is a spade bit. These can be resharpened easily a few times but then it gets more difficult, since the flute cut tapers upward.
#2 is a single-flute countersink. I think that these would work best for you, but they are difficult to resharpen by hand. Get a 60° one if you try this type.
#3 is a die drill. These are easiest to resharpen because they have a long straight flutes cut in them--but then, they cost a lot also.
#4 is the last option. You can also just buy round tungsten carbide blanks and hand-grind your own tips on them. It's not that difficult to do.
>>932981
gosh anon this is very fucking helpful, thank you! I'm saving this info. I've learned a lot ITT already but this whole post is stuff I didn't know anything about. So probably #2 or #3 huh? I don't think the $20-$30 is a bad price if I start making 8 of these things a day.
Also, should I try a countersink to smooth out and chamfer the holes or do you think one of these bits (with a proper-rated drill press) will make the holes nice enough to only need light filing? keep in mind that because of the rouned top of these cans it'll be hard to countersink the holes to any standard and consistent depth...
>>931723
>can't zero dial calipers
uhhhh yeah you can
>>932981
Maybe I'm just lazy but I usually just hammer nails into sheet metal to make holes
>>931237
I love these. I didn't even buy it. It was a gift. Changed my life. I won't work on a car or take apart a machine without this fucker. 3x better visibility. I don't even care that I look like an asshole.
>>931753
is the finished size of the holes your drilling a common size?
have you considered using a shorter length drill bit, or maybe a 4 flute end mill for rigidity. also do you use a backer board of some sort?
>>932968
>nothing wrong with those
try putting a gross overload on them and you'll see exactly what's wrong with them
>>932984
>So probably #2 or #3 huh? I don't think the $20-$30 is a bad price if I start making 8 of these things a day.
>Also, should I try a countersink to smooth out and chamfer the holes or do you think one of these bits (with a proper-rated drill press) will make the holes nice enough to only need light filing?
#2 is what I would say to try first, the single-flute 60° countersink. It isn't *really* a drill, but it will work like one in thin sheet metal.
Also because it is a single-flute cutter, it will not chatter at all. It will always cut holes smoothly. The spade and die drills are 2-flute, and may chatter especially after the first time you resharpen them by hand. DO NOT buy the 6-flute cutters: many of them are not pointed, and they chatter also.
>>932986
>Maybe I'm just lazy but I usually just hammer nails into sheet metal to make holes
Not if you want nice holes, you don't.
>>931723
>This is part of the issue I have with them, actually. ,,,, you can't zero dial calipers.
Ummm.... yea, you can.
The dial has a plastic or metal knurled ring around it. When you turn that ring, the whole dial face rotates. This is how you zero a mechanical dial caliper.
>>933016
That only zeroes the least-significant digits, though.
If you want to know the difference between two things, you need to get out a pen.
>>932947
I probably don't have enough money for that.
>>931875
They're getting more and more compact but they're not getting any better. To have a good reliable hammer you still end up buying a fair old sized hammer drill.
These smaller compact things are handy for say M5/6 blind anchors or hammer fix screws, tap con even into solid concrete or brick.
When you want to drill 10/12/14mm holes through solid concrete, rebar and metal shuttering and metal deck, you need a 'proper' hammer drill.
>>932283
I still have a yankee somewhere still in the packet. I wonder if there's any interest in them any more.
>>932715
I agree with this completely.
At any time on site I have 2 drill drivers, an impact driver, two impact wrenches.
Simply because, in the short term it's little time but in the big picture, Fucking about swapping and changing bits constantly ends up losing more time and ends up more frustrating than the cost of another drill.
And hex drills are fucking shit. The only ones I have and use are the trend counter sink bits but the drills in those are Allen key removable anyway.
>>932315
die plz
>>932947
Any tips for QFN? I fucking suck at QFN
>>933227
i've actually just been diagnosed with MS, thanks friend
>>933230
I am so sorry. My head is turning with distress. 2 or 3 forward and once back. I put some oil on and there are chips everywhere. Some would say im boring. I would say that i'm screwing around.
>>933230
I got diagnosed almost six years ago. shit sucks.
>>931877
Ignition pliers.
>>932663
>not a nylon deadblow
>>931239
i have used this exact model and it is a piece of shit, the lights dont agle the way you want them and the frame is made out of spaghetti
>>933508
The same thing you should say to anyone who has been diagnosed with anything major.
Be there for them emotionally instead of saying something shallow about their condition.
>>931163
Standard's better for machining than metric, just as it's better for most hands-on work. The round figures are more convenient.
A thousand of an inch is almost perfectly the minimum difference in thickness detectable by human senses.
You can call that a coincidence, but if it didn't work out that way, Standard machinists would have invented a unit that was, so it's not a coincidence that this kind of thinking produces better units. Standard evolved to meet the needs of the users while metric was designed by ivory-tower assholes.
Men working in Standard units are the only ones who put men on the moon. Resist dull-minded bureaucratic groupthink. Get with the winning team.
>>932612
why/how?
>>933730
I use my centech multi on 110 all the time. Never had any issues.
>>933725
Found the amerilard.
>still imperial cus fat fingers
>>933741
countries_that_have_not_put_a_man_on_the_moon.png
countries_that_are_not_leading_the_world_in_industry.png
countries_that_would_lose_an_all_out_war.png
I'm actually Canadian. I grew up with metric and it sucks.
>>933725
Or you could just use micro meters
>>933743
Does not correspond as well to the limits of the human senses.
>>933746
that's retarded
>>933752
It's practical.
>>933742
Well America isn't leading world industry. China is.
Are you saying no other space agency, should they feel the need, not put man on the moon again?
Well I'm not sure America would wipe the floor with Russia or North Korea exactly.
Metric is a brilliant system and I really can't see the point in imperial for fine tolerances.
>>933760
>America isn't leading world industry. China is.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here for your enjoyment, an example of the mental quality of metric system advocates.
That's right, folks, the country that America is assigning some industrial chores to, for comparative pocket change, is *actually* the industrial leader of the world.
>>933767
America is the commercial leader of the world but to claim it is the industrial leader is ridiculous
>>933725
>the round figures are more convenient.
What are you talking about?
>>933230
Good job at doing what he says. You must be English if you are this much of a lemming
>>931847
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about
>>933785
>>933786
Go on
Use it at work
>>931578
>what are multi-gauge strippers
>>931842
if you dont use amerishit fucking phillips then you dont strip them
>>933725
>round figures
what, 5.23000cm isn't round enough for you?
>>933781
i agree with this goy, China / India / Bangladesh etc all those in that area are powerhouses for industry, like 85% of all our shit is made there. Is it necessarily as well made? maybe not, but the quantity sure beats USA USA USA
>>933870
microns is exactly the unit you measure in when using metric to machine though so wtf is your point
>>931787
Get 135 degree split point drills. And then rig up a mist system to keep the bit cool as you are working. Its basically just a air line with a siphon into a water soluble oil mix.
Also, get a damn good vice to hold shit in place.
>>933874
Show me tools with micron gradations because everything I've seen is in hundredths of a mm. Even that is a retarded scale because it implies more accuracy than the tool is capable of so the divisions are usually 0.002mm at a minimum.
>>933885
Mistake I meant 0.02mm. See how easy it is to fuck up with retarded units, you have no reference for what 2 thousanth of an inch is.
>>933885
http://www.amazon.com/Mitutoyo-293-348-Micrometer-Resolution-Specifications/dp/B001C13X6Y/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1453436363&sr=8-14
It's not even that expensive for a Mitutoyo.
Had to wait almost half a year to replace my cheap Lidl soldering station with another cheap, but good soldering station because my wife insisted in gifting it to me for christmas.
All those soldering jobs that have build up in that half year...
>>931154
>>933874
You do realise 1micron is a 1000th of 1mm right?
No one in machine work goes beyond a 100th of a mm because there is simply no need.
Micrometers such as PIC related are used once in say every 1000 items produced to check for the the accuracy of the tooling on machinery and CNC.
>>933885
Micrometers are there but start in the hundreds and creep up to the tens of thousands.
>>933886
The system is not retarded, you are.
>oh I fucked up hurr durr
>must be the system
For a member of the 'industrial leaders of the world' you're not too bright.
>>933734
consider yourself lucky
also 110 is the pussy version of mains, just so you know
>>931877
Knipex vipers. And Knipex aligators. Greatest thing to ever happen to pliers.
>>933958
I'm canadian. We use both metric and customary as necessary and machining in micrometers is retarded.
Vise Grips
>>932947
Micro welding is cool as shit.
>>933729
You use them to clean the filth out of your nozzle. They can also clip the wire for MIG and fluxcore so you don't have to literally bend it off.
>>931154
flush cut pull saws
So nice when you are doing some wood work
>>933507
Whelp I have something very similar but my tripod extension has an extra piece you can extend instead of just the one. The part that points the light where you want them has bent a bit but overall it still works. Can't complain for only $35 a Wally World.
>>933760
>I'm not sure America would wipe the floor with Russia or North Korea
Russia's only dangerous quality is their nukes, a conventional war with them would probably end up the way everyone was expecting Desert Storm, the 1991 vintage, to end. A fair amount of casualties, but ultimately an American win thanks to superior hardware and training. Considering Russia's army has dwindled in size since the cold war, and doesn't have much tech more advanced that what Saddam used against the coalition.
North Korea isn't even worth mentioning, the only two reasons we haven't wiped the floor with them is because China wouldn't like it, and because they pose a moderate threat to the civilians of Seoul. They have, at most, a half dozen low-yield nuclear devices, that are just as likely to malfunction and blow up on the launch pad than make it across the border and hit a South Korean target. They have a snowball's chance in hell of making it across the Pacific ocean and hitting the US mainland.
Their most dangerous asset is the huge amount of artillery they've got stashed up in the mountains, waiting to level an estimated half of Seoul before being destroyed by counter battery fire.
>>934079
The constant need to prove the size of America's dick in inches is only batting in favour of how much bigger it would sound given in metric.
>>933886
>See how easy it is to fuck up with retarded units.
Weell you see. OH shit. I added an extra "e" by accident. English is a cuck language. If I only wrote in curly lined arab then I would be a real linguist.
Dude, you made a retarded mistake the same way you could have typed 22 thousandth.
Also what do you need to reference 2 thousandth of an inch for?
>>933862
I see "made in Turkey" more often than "made in America/USA" and even that pales in comparison to "made in China".
You find lots of companies trying to offset that to by stamping "Developed in USA, built in China."
>>934159
Pfft, don't forget 'Made in PRC' to try and hide it was made in China
>>934079
>the only two reasons we haven't wiped the floor with them is because China wouldn't like it
McArthur had the same idea of blasting them to hell and back and look where he ended up(besides the fact he was shit talking president,(and in general(ha.)being an asshole)) Its not like we were overly friendly with China back in the 50s
>>932739
same. recently bought one of those along with pic related.
I've recently been getting into RC stuff in an attempt to gain real world ECE experience for uni.
I got a bunch:
Wire cutters
Wire strippers/crimpers/cutters
Flashlight
Knife
Soldering station
Desoldering pump about five years later
Heat gun
A good drill
Multimeter
Antenna analyzer
Epoxy putty
Fucking this.
>>934907
Is that a calculator multimeter?
Add a radio and you will be millionaire.
>>932947
>microscope for through hole
grand dad pls go
>>931154
Mitutoyo digital callipers are so much better than every other calliper on the market at this stage I feel bad for anyone (who regularly uses callipers) if they are using something else.
>>933941
...what you do before - squint?
>>932435
It's not just a pair of pliers?
>>934450
You didn't know you needed a flashlight and a knife?
>>932981
Where do you buy spade and straight flute bits for reasonable DIY prices. I looked at McMaster but they want like $40 for a 3/8" bit. I love Mickey Carr but nope.
>>931215
Truth. A quality snap off knife is a life changer.
>>935811
Yeah, I noticed that too. Strange guy.
My own answer will be Loctite thread-locker. I haven't used it much yet but the little I've used it for (some mechanical pencils where the tips unscrewed, some tools and some bolts on my bike tells me I'm going to like having it.
>>931154
y-you didn't know a caliper was absolutely essential ??
>>935811
I mean once I started carrying them in my pockets. I always had ones hanging over my desk.
>>932981
>hand grind tungsten carbide.
well goodluck with your lung cancer
>>935704
>Knipex Pliers Wrenches
The bastard son of Plier, crescent wrench and bolt cutter.
They're pretty awsome, really.
The jaws stay parallel but because of the way it works compared to a normal plier, the gripping power you get from them is absurd.
I use them to loosen or torque down almost everything now, VERY nice addition to the toolbox.
I tried to illustrate the lever ratio of both these and more traditional pliers.
>>935833
>well goodluck with your lung cancer
i said to do it outside, goober
it really takes a diamond wheel to grind carbide--and how many DIY casuals are going to have a diamond wheel (or go and buy one) for their bench grinder? I'd bet about ummm,,, zero. (pic related)
meanwhile you can get a pack of 5 diamond wheels for a Dremel for like $10, and the dremel is easier to use outside. just make sure the dust isn't getting thrown on you, and the wind is carrying it away from you
>>935482
In a way, yes. You can do everything from check for faults to analyze power quality.
So simple. So essential. No idea why I went without one for so long.
>>936018
How do you even do that?
Do you just remember that it goes "11 64ths, 3 8ths, 13 64ths"?
Do you apply prime factorisation in your head?
Why is it not all in 64ths?
How long does it take you to put a spilled socket set back in?
>>936036
What, you can't covert fractions in your head? Pleb.
And it's not about frictions, it's about telling a handful of bits apart from each other.
>>936036
Eurofag detected.
>>936152
>not tenga eggs
>>936152
These take a lot more effort than they are worth
>>936155
I could say the same about the real thing
>>936230
Jesus Christ people. LCD! The rule of the lowest common denominator. Or did you both fail at maths?
>>931959
Digital ones are just nice and you can easily change units
>>936226
I don't think I could. It's fairly thick stainless steel. By hand would probably be neater but it would take forever. Each pair of these things needs 28 holes, with the drill press it took me like 40 mins, and I was being rather hasty
Hrm...
Ratcheting wrenches with a direction selector. Ratcheting wrenches are a godsend in and of themselves, but the selector switch makes them that much better.
Spud wrenches are damn awesome too.
>>936646
Oh, also, these fuckers.
>>936646
Spud wrenches!
>my nigga.jpg
A wrench and a drift pin in one!
Thought of another tool. Pic related.
>>936652
never thought I needed those. Tell me more.
>>936667
They're for removing rounded off nuts/bolts. The blades on the inside are oriented so when you're turning them counter-clockwise, they bite into whatever you're trying to get off. A damn lifesaver when you work with idiots who have no clue how to not round of nuts/bolts (and for those times when that shit just happens).
>>936366
LCD means that in the imperial system, as a measurement gets smaller, the numbers get bigger.
7/16 is smaller than 1/2.
Oh, wait, except when using whole units, then numbers get bigger when size gets bigger.
So not only is Imperial backwards, it's inconsistent.
>>931728
>>931723
Just got this today,
the 20x monocular is to small to be of any use, if you actually need 20x i recomend this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006531W5I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
over the head mount...
with that said, the binoculars are fantastic, a bit small, would have liked them to take up more of my field of view but over all great...
that said, anything over 4x is pushing its usefulness binoncular wise, you would be better off going monocualr at that point, that also said, 5x 8x and 13x on the monoculars is just fine.
the 20x leans on its own, held up to your eye, that is still usefull, but on the thing itself its just to fucking small
the small end is 15mm, apposed to what i linked above that are 25mm
i just found 3 tripple a batteries to make the led work... the 20x and 28x magnification are quite a bit better with this as the light is able to be adjusted just so its illuminating where the focal point is, even with that into account, i still prefer my clip on loupe.
the led itself, while its not going to win best flashlight of the year it performs quite well as i originally considered it a throw away element.
anyway, thanks for the heads up on this. its pretty nice.
>>932663
that's why you get something where the measure is known down to the micron and test on it first, once you see everything is in order, then you go an use it.
ill and as for cheap, 34$ igaging ezcal is the best under 100$... well, there is an absolute 0 one from them too with a digital out
>>932716
for lasercut, look around for someone you can use to get it cut if you supply materials and cash, dont know the cost but it may be cheaper than you would think.
>>935638
if you already have one why not,
>>934246
the last made in america stamp i have seen is the assembled in the usa on my steam controller.
>>934079
to be fair, russia's tech if i remember right is developed in the university system, not contractors, there is a good chance they are able to match or exceed us, they just haven't had a war to show it off yet. and to top it off, cheaper too.
>>935811
its the little things that you don't realize you need till you need it, like a flashlight, took a while for me to order special ones for every room in the house, very small, very cheap, will illuminate an entire room and throw a beam over 150 yards... the ones i got were 8$ for personal use and 3$ for room flashlights.
a key feature, they take 1 AA battery each.
a knife i haven't found a use for yet, but a box cutter i did. and in that i got a spring loaded box cutter with easy switch blade removal.
>>936366
imperical is at the very least annoying to use and requires more thinking for something that you should look at and instantly know without committing it to memory.
i thought the imperial system was retarded from the first time i ever used metric... metric was just... i don't know, everything i understood, where as 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 5280 feet to a mile... the entire system is fucking stupid.
not to mention the way liquid and solids are measured for cooking.
why is
>>936154
okay but
>>936152
isn't?
I have many tools that I knew I needed, but didn't realize just how bad until I got them. Pic so very related. Changed my life.
>>937250
now that its night, i decided to go around the house with it on my head and see how good it was... honestly shocked by how much that one led illuminates an area, its not the AA cree led flashlight good, but god damn does it do a good job.
im actually happy with every aspect of it now, well... still think the 20x is a bit useless compared to the other loupe i have, but still.
now im looking into dual giant ass loupes so i can have a 100% field of view zoom.
>>931322
A horribly outdated style that you should only use in high-fine dust environments.
>b-buh muh accuracy
Fuck you. If you need better than +-.002 the you shouldn't be using a caliper period.
>but this one I bought for XX is better than that!
You wasted your money. Spending more than $15 on a caliper is pointless and the extra money is better spent on mics or other measuring tools.
>>936637
>Each pair of these things needs 28 holes, with the drill press it took me like 40 mins, and I was being rather hasty
Get a bridgeport or other small mill with a DRO and figure out your hole locations. You should be able to do them in a few minutes a piece now.
>>937388
I like my vernier though
Doesn't need batteries, doesn't need constantly zeroing, doesn't have a big stupid clock on it.
It's also cheaper for the same accuracy as the other kinds.
What do you hate about it?
>>937421
I guess for a hobbyist they're fine, but I'm a professional machinist. They take longer to read and time is money. A second or two might not seem like much, but when you multiply that by a 10,000 part run it adds up really fucking quick. And they shouldn't need to be zeroed more than once an hour at most. Literally the only shop in the dozen or so in this city I know of that uses vernier calipers only does so because all they cut is carbon fiber. Apparently it gets into the gears of a dial caliper and fucks them up royally. Can't imagine what it does to everyone's lungs.
